Senate Passes “Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act” aka Ministry of Truth, “Congress has taken a big step in fighting back against fake news and propaganda from countries like Russia”, Most fake news coming from American media, “We have met the enemy and he is us”

Senate Passes “Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act” aka Ministry of Truth, “Congress has taken a big step in fighting back against fake news and propaganda from countries like Russia”, Most fake news coming from American media, “We have met the enemy and he is us”

“So while packaged politely in a veneer of “countering disinformation and propaganda”, the bill, once signed by Obama, will effectively give the government a full mandate to punish, shut down or otherwise prosecute, any website it deems offensive and a source of “foreign government propaganda from Russia, China or other nations.” And since there is no formal way of proving whether or not there is indeed a foreign propaganda sponsor, all that will be sufficient to eliminate any “dissenting” website, will be the government’s word against that of the website. One can be confident that the US government will almost certainly prevail in every single time.”…Zero Hedge December 10, 2016

“The past, he reflected, had not merely been altered, it had
actually been destroyed. For how could you establish, even
the most obvious fact when there existed no record outside
your own memory?”…George Orwell, “1984″

“We are being lied to on a scale unimaginable by George Orwell.”…Citizen Wells



December 9, 2016 I posted the following article.

“Citizen Wells here to present the real news about the Durham County NC recount in the gubernatorial election.

You sure as hell are not getting it from the “fake news” based mainstream media.

There are errors of commission and omission.

And then of course there is evil.

In the past several days I can find no other source on the internet reporting the following.

Despite what the Durham County Board of Elections has been trying to cover up for, the change in recount that was reported to the state is significant. A change of 131 votes in one county out of 100.

I would be willing to bet that even this number is not accurate.”


I have been quoting Orwell’s “1984” almost daily since early 2008.

If it were not for citizen journalism on the internet and often foreign media, we would, like Winston, et al in “1984” never be presented the truth.

Real news.

From Zero Hedge December December 10, 2016.

“Senate Quietly Passes The “Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act””

“Recall that as we reported in early June, “a bill to implement the U.S.’ very own de facto Ministry of Truth has been quietly introduced in Congress. As with any legislation attempting to dodge the public spotlight the Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act of 2016 marks a further curtailment of press freedom and another avenue to stultify avenues of accurate information. Introduced by Congressmen Adam Kinzinger and Ted Lieu, H.R. 5181 seeks a “whole-government approach without the bureaucratic restrictions” to counter “foreign disinformation and manipulation,” which they believe threaten the world’s “security and stability.”

Also called the Countering Information Warfare Act of 2016 (S. 2692), when introduced in March by Sen. Rob Portman, the legislation represents a dramatic return to Cold War-era government propaganda battles. “These countries spend vast sums of money on advanced broadcast and digital media capabilities, targeted campaigns, funding of foreign political movements, and other efforts to influence key audiences and populations,” Portman explained, adding that while the U.S. spends a relatively small amount on its Voice of America, the Kremlin provides enormous funding for its news organization, RT.“Surprisingly,”

Portman continued, “there is currently no single U.S. governmental agency or department charged with the national level development, integration and synchronization of whole-of-government strategies to counter foreign propaganda and disinformation.”

Long before the “fake news” meme became a daily topic of extensive conversation on wuch mainstream fake news portals as CNN and WaPo, H.R. 5181 would rask the Secretary of State with coordinating the Secretary of Defense, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Broadcasting Board of Governors to “establish a Center for Information Analysis and Response,” which will pinpoint sources of disinformation, analyze data, and — in true dystopic manner — ‘develop and disseminate’ “fact-based narratives” to counter effrontery propaganda.

Fast forward to this past Thursday, December 8, when the “Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act” passed in the Senate, quietly inserted inside the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) Conference Report.

Here is the full statement issued by the generously funded Senator Rob Portman (R- Ohio) on the passage of a bill that further chips away at press liberties in the US, and which sets the stage for future which hunts and website shutdowns, purely as a result of an accusation that any one media outlet or site is considered as a source of “disinformation and propaganda” and is shut down by the government.

Senate Passes Major Portman-Murphy Counter-Propaganda Bill as Part of NDAA

Portman/Murphy Bill Promotes Coordinated Strategy to Defend America, Allies Against Propaganda and Disinformation from Russia, China & Others

U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-OH) and Chris Murphy (D-CT) today announced that their Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act – legislation designed to help American allies counter foreign government propaganda from Russia, China, and other nations – has passed the Senate as part of the FY 2017 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) Conference Report. The bipartisan bill, which was introduced by Senators Portman and Murphy in March, will improve the ability of the United States to counter foreign propaganda and disinformation by establishing an interagency center housed at the State Department to coordinate and synchronize counter-propaganda efforts throughout the U.S. government.To support these efforts, the bill also creates a grant program for NGOs, think tanks, civil society and other experts outside government who are engaged in counter-propaganda related work. This will better leverage existing expertise and empower local communities to defend themselves from foreign manipulation.

“The passage of this bill in the Senate today takes us one critical step closer to effectively confronting the extensive, and destabilizing, foreign propaganda and disinformation operations being waged against us. While the propaganda and disinformation threat has grown, the U.S. government has been asleep at the wheel. Today we are finally signaling that enough is enough; the United States will no longer sit on the sidelines. We are going to confront this threat head-on,” said Senator Portman. “With the help of this bipartisan bill, the disinformation and propaganda used against our allies and our interests will fail.”

“Congress has taken a big step in fighting back against fake news and propaganda from countries like Russia. When the president signs this bill into law, the United States will finally have a dedicated set of tools and resources to confront our adversaries’ widespread efforts to spread false narratives that undermine democratic institutions and compromise America’s foreign policy goals,” said Murphy. “I’m proud of what Senator Portman and I accomplished here because it’s long past time for the U.S. to get off the sidelines and confront these growing threats.””

Read more:

The “Pogo” comic strip nailed it many years ago:

“We have met the enemy and he is us.”



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40 responses to “Senate Passes “Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act” aka Ministry of Truth, “Congress has taken a big step in fighting back against fake news and propaganda from countries like Russia”, Most fake news coming from American media, “We have met the enemy and he is us”

  1. “As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of the Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in it’s stead. This process of continuation alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound tracks, cartoons, photographs–to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance. Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to be correct; nor was any item of news, or expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to be on record.”…George Orwell, “1984”

  2. “WALLACE: In the last few days, you have named cabinet heads, Department Agency people at EPA, at labor, at health and human services, education, who are diametrically opposed to what those agencies have been doing for the last eight years. Fair to say you’re going to take a wrecking ball to the Obama legacy?

    TRUMP: No, no. No, I don’t want to do that at all. I just want what’s right. EPA, you can’t get things approved. People are waiting in line for 15 years before they get rejected, OK?

    That’s why people don’t want to invest in this country. I mean, you look at what’s going on — and you can look at a jobs report, but take a look at the real jobs report, which are the millions of people that gave up looking for work, and they’re not considered in that number that’s less than 5 percent. OK?

    I mean, we have jobs that are in the pipeline, and I deal with all the executives, the big ones and the small ones. I have really gotten to know this country.

    And when you have to wait 10 and 15 years for an approval and then you don’t even get the approval, it’s no good.”

  3. “WALLACE: So, where are you on the environment?

    TRUMP: I’m still open-minded. Nobody really knows.

    I’ve — look, I’m somebody that gets it. And nobody really knows. It’s not something that’s so hard and fast.

    I do know this: other countries are eating our lunch. If you look at what China is doing, if you look at what — I could name country after country. You look at what’s happening in Mexico where our people — just our plants are being built. They don’t wait ten years to get an approval to build a plant, OK? They build it like the following day or the following week.

    We can’t let all of these permits that take forever to get stop our jobs. I won because of the fact that people that are great, great American people have been forgotten. I call them the forgotten man and the forgotten woman. They’ve been forgotten.

    And you, in all fairness, and all of the folks in your world, and business, you forgot about these people. They’re not going to forget about them in four years. They’re already trying to figure out what happened. But I understood it because I understand our country.

    WALLACE: Let me ask you a couple specific questions. Will you still pull out of the Paris climate agreement, which has been signed by more than 100 countries to reduce carbon emissions? Will you restart the Dakota Access Pipeline, which the Army just stopped?

    TRUMP: OK. Let me not answer the Dakota because perhaps that’ll be solved by the time I get there, so I don’t have to create enemies on one side or the other. But I will tell you when I get to office, if it’s not solved, I’ll have it solved very quickly.

    WALLACE: Meaning you’re going to start it?

    TRUMP: I’m not saying anything. I just say something will happen, and it’ll be quick. I think it’s very unfair. So, it’ll start one way or the other. ”

  4. “WALLACE: But you hammered Hillary Clinton over the Clinton Foundation and pay —

    TRUMP: Well, that’s different because —

    WALLACE: And what — and —

    TRUMP: She’s taken in massive amounts of money from foreign countries and other things.

    WALLACE: And pay to play.


    TRUMP: It is impossible to figure out where the Clinton Foundation ends and the State Department begins. It is now abundantly clear that’s the Clintons set up a business to profit from public office.”

  5. Wallace and Fox humor me more please! Obama’s Legacy????

  6. Limbaugh said it 8 years ago, and nobody listened. He said that all of the power given to the executive branch would come back to haunt them. The democrats, the RHINOs, the liberals, the door would swing both ways. Now in steps Trump, and the establishment quakes in terror. Expect Trump to be decisive, his whole life has been about making decisions, trained that way from childhood, in a military school.

    What can we expect? From the opposition an attempt to discredit him, and to protect themselves. The “recount”, the attempt to threaten electorial college representatives, and now “fake” news that Putin changed the outcome of the election, without threatening anyone or even voting! That’s just crazy talk, talk that results in a shooting civil war.

    Let’s just say , for the sake of liberal tin hat mania, that Trump was ‘helped’ by Russians hacking via Kremlin orders a private organization in the US (Democratic National Committee) and Hillary’s campaign leader (Podesta) how is that different than a wanted war criminal and former NAZI sympathizer helping the Democrats for years with direct contact with the democrats? Well, I suppose one is a government (Russia) helping someone that Hillary wanted to run against (see Podesta emails) which Hillary helped when convient for her, without Trumps knowledge. The other is far worse, colluding with a wanted war criminal to attack former POTUS Bush, and deliberately spread fake news via foriegn money to improperly brake campaign rules (violence against Trump supporters and at his rallies). Further, selling access to the US state department is treason, as defined within the Constitution that “State department employees may not accept gifts from foriegn governments or foreigners”. Further, the recount initiative in Michigan has demonstrated pro Hillary supporters were rigging the election in the inner cities, yet more evidence of Treason by Democrats.

    Seems to me that the Democrats and the individuals whom have sold their country out are in fear that a Patriot could actually call them out. Without EXTRAORDINARY EVIDENCE, I cannot see their claim that Trump cannot be President, which is a EXTRAORDINARY ACCUSATION. I suspect that those whom are now requesting ‘bipartisan’ investigation in congress have the most to loose by someone who cannot be bought or intimidated becoming POTUS.


  7. Pete………
    …………I read that the Michigan recount has been terminated by the Michigan Courts. I could be wrong. I believe that if this is true, it makes the possibility of voter fraud a strong probability, that the LIBERALS do not want the public to see. A thorough recount might easily have revealed a lot of cheating. I would expect MASSIVE cheating in the METRO DETROIT AREA which is LIBERAL WACKY LAND. Lots of ILLEGALS as well.

  8. Pete………
    ………….REALITY tells me that there is still NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE of HACKING by the RUSSIANS, the CHINESE, or anyone else. This is a straw flying through the air that the liberals are grabbing at. They will be feeling the sting of their defeat for years to come. In the interim period you can expect them to throw everything including the kitchen sink at Trump. This will go on for a long time to come.

  9. Pete………

  10. …………..If the popular vote is accurate, it says there are still a hell of a lot of MORONS walking around. They must like having to work TWO jobs just to make ends meet……….they must REALLY like the DIMINISHING sort of healthcare, which is costing them MORE,AND MORE. In many ways such folks are like members of orghanised labor, the UNION tells them what to do, what to think, and how to live their lives, etc. In reality they live under the control of someone else……….who takes their money, and does nothing in return. REALLY SAD!

  11. ………….I THINK………
    ………..that there was a massive awakening of the rural folks of late. There has been a lot said that it was the votes of about 95 million people who were once members of the middle class………blue collar workers who Hillary referred to as DEPLORABLES. WELLLLLLL……….Mzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Piggy discovered that there was another bloc of voters out there who she had RIDICULED ,and called names. When they spoke at the ballot box the VOTER COLLEGE took notice, and ………VOILA, Trump NEVER LOOKED BACK. har de har

  12. ……..AND NOW……..

  13. Evidence Tying Donald Trump To Russia (The Dworkin Report)

    Wow, Look at this….. Whoopie Doo, Doo

    Read this new report that has evidence tying Donald Trump to Russia.

    Click on these 2 links below to view the report.

    Click to access 61e09d_4e8b0455786d46b8bc0ae0126fffc6bc.pdf

  14. hapnHal……….
    ……………the twisted liberals HOWL, and PROTEST unproven bullshi# about Trumps alleged Russian ties, while all the time we are hearing NOTHING about MZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.PIGGY’S PAST CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR. Maybe it is time for the A$$HOLE LIBERALS TO CLEAN OUT THEIR OWN CLOSETS before they try to clean out other peoples closets. The alleged DWORKIN Report is more LIBERAL BULLSHI# (written by liars). Now it is time for them to PROVE their ACCUSATIONS with actual certified copies of all pertinent documents to be published ONLINE. Anyone who allows a lie to be certified as the truth, and publishes it as such on a public medium can be sued in Federal court……..BIG TIME…….GO AHEAD DWORKIN…….MAKE OUR DAY! WE ARE WATCHIN!

  15. …….AND…….

  16. hapnHal………

    …………AT THE TIME, Trump is alleged to have COMMITTED A CRIME by travelling to Russia. There were NO LAWS which he VIOLATED BY TRAVELLING to Russia. He had every right to travel anywhere he chose to travel………so long as he had the proper credentials…….none of which is or was against the law. Further…….any business which he might have conducted was legally done which is why his legal team travelled with him. Again he had the RIGHT TO CONDUCT LEGAL BUSINESS……….no matter what DEMOCRATS think about it. His business then was the same as it has always been …………LEGALLY CONDUCTED BUSINESS. I REITERATE……THERE WAS, AND STILL ARE NO LAWS AGAINST DONALD TRUMP VISITING RUSSIA.
    It is more than obvious that our LIBERAL DEMOCRATS are extremely upset by Donald Trump’s ELECTORATE COLLEGE WIN, and they are now trying to make a series of Trump’s legally pursued business trips look like something really nefarious. The overeducated wordtwisters (LIBERAL DEMOCRATS) simply can’t handle the 1st magnitude defeat that they received from the Trump Campaign. Now they think that if they dream up some really big, and complicated lies they can make all the American NUMBSKULLS believe UP is DOWN and that will turn the election around. The election is OVER, AND THE LIBERALS NEED TO GET USED TO IT!

    ………….have become a giant cash register for both LIBERAL, AND RINO POLITICIANS. They regularly stole money from the Social Security System after it was made part of the GENERAL FUND by LYNDON JOHNSON and his slimy cohorts in Congress. This was done so that there would be PLENTY of READY CASH TO STEAL. They couldn’t touch it while it remained in the MASTER ANNUITIES overseen by a consortium of the big insurance companies. At the time it was stolen there was close to a trillion dollars contained. When the Fed took it over the first thing Johnson done was give Congress TWO BACK TO BACK RAISES (ILLEGAL AT THE TIME). The first raise was 23%, and three months later another 17% making it 40 % in all. Later even more money was stolen from the Social Security System to finance part of the Viet Nam war. I can’t express the level of DISRESPECT that I hold against Lyndon Johnson, and the criminal bastards in the Senate who helped RAPE the Social Security system. It is still going on. Now the funds are being handed out like candy to the illegals who haven’t paid in a PENNY. Each illegal is receiving $1200.00 a month. Now multiply that by 11 million, and notice the product. You will see the amount being SQUANDERED, and ILLEGALLY SPENT each month. It is time that the BASTARDS who are almost continually robbing the Social Security Funds were brought to justice. A few of the perpetrators have finally paid the fiddler, but there are still a few of the original criminals around, and still in the Senate. The Social Security System screams to be RE PRIVATISED so that the BASTARDS can no longer carry out their almost monthly RAPES of it. I pray that Donald Trump will accomplish the task. The people who PAID INTO the system have every right to expect a return on the money they paid in. The ILLEGALS HAVE NO LEGAL RIGHT to a penny of it. They aren’t even citizens of America.

  18. Talk about fake news! That Zero Dark Thirty movie is going to have to be remade, holy cow!


    VIA| President Obama has been caught in yet another lie, and this one has even liberals disgusted.

    A report released over the weekend revealed that Obama lied about Pakistan’s role in the special forces raid that killed Bin Laden. The expose states that Obama did this so that he could take more credit for himself.

    The accusations stem from a piece written for the London Review of Books by Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh, who claims that Obama’s address after Bin Laden’s death caused “chaos” in the intelligence community and forced them to corroborate his story.

    Hersh quoted intelligence officials from America and Pakistan for the story, as well as Navy SEALS who admit that the White House and CIA lied to the public about pretty much every aspect of the Bin Laden raids.

    Here are some of Hersh’s most explosive claims, according to Daily Mail:

    The Pakistanis had been essentially holding bin Laden captive at the Abbottabad compound for years.

    The CIA learned of bin Laden’s location from a Pakistani intelligence official who tipped off American operatives hoping to claim the $25million bounty on the terror leader – not from interrogation of an al-Qaeda courier.

    Top American officials negotiated with Pakistani officials to let them carry out the operation to kill bin Laden on Pakistani soil.

    There was no vaccination program used to college the DNA from bin Laden’s compound – it was all made up as part of an elaborate cover-story after the fact.

    The Pakistani intelligence service, ISI, cut power to the neighborhood where bin Laden was hiding on the day of the raid and made sure no Pakistani forces would not interfere with the American choppers flying into sovereign airspace.

    There was no firefight during the SEAL raid – the only shots fired were those that killed bin Laden, whom Hersh described as a feeble, unarmed man.

    Bin Laden was cut off from al-Qaeda at the time of his killing and was not running the terrorist group

    There was almost no useful intelligence information found his compound.

    After he was killed, bin Laden was not buried at sea, but instead buried in Afghanistan.

    Obama publicly announced the commando raid and claimed public credit for it, despite agreeing with the Pakistanis to keep the action secret for seven days and eventually say bin Laden had been killed in a drone strike.

    Obama’s announcement badly alienated Pakistani leaders and all but obliterated the military and intelligence ties between the two nations.

    “Obama’s speech was put together in a rush,” Hersh wrote. “This series of self-serving and inaccurate statements would create chaos in the weeks following.”

    The White House has not yet responded to Hersh’s accusations.

    ……….is very small potatoes when compared to the skulduggery of Lyndon Johnson and his criminal friends in the Senate. I personally know of seniors who are receiving less than $500.00 a month to live on……….while ILLEGAL BASTARDS are receiving $1200.00 a month. Really a CRIME.!

  20. Bob Strauss………..
    ………….such news doesn’t surprise me at all. I always thought it was all to quick, and far too easy. Something had to be wrong with the story. Further I seriously doubt that any chopper pilot would attempt to land a 4 ton chopper on a roof that had an unknown structural ability. That was one thing then there was the ease in which he was taken out. It always seemed to me that if he was still viable it seems to me there would probably have been a lot more people defending the so called fortress. I thought from day one there was some BS involved, but DEAD IS DEAD, and I couldn’t care less where he was planted, or how it was done.

    ………….MEDICARE is being ripped off each month as well paying for the healthcare of the ILLEGALS. Medicare was designed to support the AMERICAN PEOPLE’S healthcare, not that of the illegals.(MEDICAID) which is the distribution of FEDERAL funds by the various states………..but the money originates at MEDICARE. Another CRIMINAL HANDOUT!

  22. Bob Strauss……….
    …………if Hersh’s words are accurate then the whole thing as told was probably a fantasy land product of a deviant Hollywood choreographer friend of Soetoro.

  23. AND NOW……….
    …………a Washington Post halfwit female reporter has referred to Trump’s appointments as IGNORAMUSES, etc. In reality she is the only IGNORAMUS in the room. Her raving ,and ranting is close to a near foaming at the mouth oratory, indicative of insanity. She is just one more example of the sort of people who have been running our country for the past 8 years. If the LIBERALS could see how their twisted behavior makes them appear I think they might decide to calm down, and begin rational thought once again.

  24. ……..any ONE of Trump’s appointments have without a doubt accomplished more in 10 minutes than Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Rubin will in her entire life. Halfwits are halfwits………..they never change!

  25. ……I BELIEVE……
    …………..if Trump appoints Rex Tillerson to the SOS job, he will have appointed a real WINNER. Tillerson is an excellent choice………..the level of grey matter he utilizes everyday is far above that of people in every day jobs……..IT MUST BE……otherwise he would never have become CEO of the largest corporation in the world, and subsequently HELD THAT POSITION for as long as he has. The SOS position requires just such a person. Trump will have once again found the right person for the job. He is paying close attention to their PROVEN resumes.

  26. ……….the mentality of the LIBERAL crowd has reached a historic LOW proportion. Now the LIBERAL LUNATICS are blaming VLADIMIR PUTIN for the loss of the election. Any RATIONAL person KNOWS that Putin has more on his plate with the war that they are now involved in to take time for such CHILDISH PURSUITS. JULIAN ASSANGE has himself STATED that the source of WIKILEAKS information was NOT Russia. The reality is the TWISTED LIBERALS have NOBODY TO BLAME for their GROSS IGNORANCE of the most important voting block of all…… the MIDDLE CLASS BLUE COLLAR WORKER. Instead all we heard from the LIBERALS was “HOW IMPORRRRRRTANT” they fancy themselves to be, and therefore everybody MUST VOTE FOR THEM. Now they know just how UNNNNNIMPORTANT they are. In actuality the liberals are some of the worlds most twisted, criminals. Today we see the GLARING evidence of the total accomplishments of the LIBERAL leadership of the last 8 years…………a MULTIPLE COLORED WHITE HOUSE so decorated for the LGBT CROWD……….QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT! Far more important than fighting our enemies……..all of which bespeaks of the sort of person who has been at the helm of America for the last 8 years. Favorite pastimes……..BACK DOOR BINGO, and DROP THE SOAP.

  27. “FBI Disputes CIA’s “Fuzzy And Ambiguous” Claims That Russia Sought To Influence Presidential Election

    Since election day, Democrats have engaged in a panicked attempt to leverage their last couple of weeks in control of the executive branch to delegitimize the Trump presidency. Obama has even gone so far as to order a “full report” on Russian tampering in the 2016 election cycle to be completed before he leaves office (see “A “Soft Coup” Attempt: Furious Trump Slams “Secret” CIA Report Russia Helped Him Win”). Of course, we should simply ignore the fact that a true investigation of such allegations would take much longer than the one month that Obama has left in office because any delay could run the risk of a bipartisan/independent review and that’s just not how the Obama administration plays the game.

    But at least one investigative agency, the FBI, isn’t buying the “fuzzy and ambiguous” assertions from the CIA that Russia “quite” clearly meddled in the U.S. elections on behalf of the Trump campaign. Meanwhile, the FBI’s unwillingness to play along is infuriating Democrats.”

  28. AND NOW……….
    ………..the liberal MANIACS would have us go to war with Russia to COVER UP their own LIES, and misinformation they have spewed. When the MEDIA LIES to back up the LIBERAL political lie the lie allegedly becomes the truth, SO HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE GEORGE ORWELL BULLSHI#. ONE DAY THE ENTIRE RAFT OF BULLSHI#IS GOING TO BLOW UP IN THE FACES OF BOTH THE LIBERALS, AND THE MEDIA LIBERAL TROLLS. The CIA is grabbing at straws. In reality it is doubtful that they can prove one word of their allegations. Suspicion is NOT ENOUGH, but go ahead liberals start a goddam war………..we will know the truth soon thereafter.

  29. Rush: “NY Times and Washington Post are running the Democrat Party.”

  30. oldsailor84 | December 12, 2016 at 12:45 am |

    Bob Strauss……….
    …………if Hersh’s words are accurate then the whole thing as told was probably a fantasy land product of a deviant Hollywood choreographer friend of Soetoro.

    Everything about the usurper’s regime has been a fantasy, including his eligibility to hold office.

    ID the usurper, and the regime crumbles!

    I hope Trump sends a representative to the Hawaii DOH, along with an order, to finally ID this bastard! I would send Sheriff Joe, and Mike Zullo.

    The rest is paperwork, as adjustments are made to void the last 8 yrs.

    The final birth certificate press conference is scheduled for Dec 15th, Zullo is going to lay it all on the table. I can’t wait!

    Democrats will go berserk, and call it fake news!

  31. Bob Strauss………..
    ……………I have long looked upon the rationale of the LIBERAL DEMOCRATS as a form of INSANITY. The recent notions which they are now spewing confirms to me that they are in fact irrational. The magnitude of their defeat has completely disrupted their ability to think, or reason coherently………..hence their lunatic raving that Russia was responsible for the defeat. Then 10 minutes later they rave that Comey was the reason for their defeat,then 10 minutes later they blame somebody else. This is classic INSANITY. I believe that they would indeed attack the Russians just to make it all look real…………..but what do you think the Russians will do when they are attacked? What they do will BE REAL, and NOT FANTASY. The people in the CIA had better get their minds straightened out, very soon because they are skating on EXTREMELY THIN ICE. As long as there is NO PROOF it is COMPLETE IDIOCY to blame others for the loss of the election. The liberals think everybody should kiss their stinking feet because they fancy themselves as being SOOOOOOOO SUPERRRRRIOR to everyone else. This FANTASY OF SELF IMPORTANCE is still another confirmation of INSANITY. Such people are known as SOCIOPATHS. They are mentally ill people.

  32. Bob Strauss………
    …………if Arpaio, and Zullo are serious this time, perhaps they will lay out INCONTROVERTIBLE DOCUMENTATION of all they have, which hopefully will be taken as REAL FACTS, instead of manufactured news.

  33. Hi Bob and GW,

    Sheriff Joe and Mike Zullo’s final press conference regarding the fake Obama documents is scheduled for 4:00 PM on 12-15; Trump also had a press conference scheduled for the same day. Knowing the puppy press, Trump would take preference over Sheriff Joe; we saw how badly the ‘media’ handled the first Sheriff Joe/Mike Zullo press conference.

    Just heard that Trump will be postponing his presser until after the first of the year. I suspect that he knows that Sheriff Joe’s was scheduled for the same day. They are pals so IMO, Trump is deferring to his friend; he knows how important this is!

    Trying to verify….

  34. Sorry, All,

    The Sheriff Joe/Mike Zullo press conference is scheduled for 4:00 PM *MST,* 6:00 PM, EST. There will be a live stream, but no links posted yet.

    Bob, I can’t wait, either! All I’ve heard from a few sources is that ‘we will be vindicated.’

  35. Suek………..
    …………I am definitely NOT GOING TO HOLD MY BREATH, but just maybe it will happen……… THIS TIME……….
    …………you might want to lay in some groceries…………potential for 4′ of snow headed your way…..

  36. SueK | December 12, 2016 at 9:07 pm |

    Sorry, All,

    The Sheriff Joe/Mike Zullo press conference is scheduled for 4:00 PM *MST,* 6:00 PM, EST. There will be a live stream, but no links posted yet.

    Bob, I can’t wait, either! All I’ve heard from a few sources is that ‘we will be vindicated.’

    Thanks for the time on the Zullo press conference, I will be watching.

    I bought some Act III popcorn with butter for the occasion, that healthy crap I had was too dry, and wasn’t cutting it.

    I hope we are all vindicated on the 15th, but if not, we will have to press on till we get the truth. It may take a while, but with Trump in office I feel that we have a much better chance of exposing the usurper.

    I’ll see you all here on the 15th, to compare notes!

  37. Russian Hacking…Fake News
    Obama orders an Investigation
    Secret CIA Report
    FBI isn’t buying it
    WHY,WHY,WHY……Is everyone asleep?
    CIA director John Brennan is a Muslim convert?
    Posted on August 27, 2015 by StMA

    Before John Owen Brennan became Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) on March 8, 2013, he had spent 25 years with the CIA in a succession of positions, including as a Near East and South Asia analyst, station chief in Saudi Arabia, chief of staff to CIA director George Tenet, and director of the National Counterterrorism Center. After leaving government service in 2005, Brennan was CEO of The Analysis Corporation, a security consulting business. He returned to government service with the Obama administration as Homeland Security Advisor on January 20, 2009.

    Peter Baker and Mark Mazzetti write for The New York Times that “in the 67 years since the C.I.A. was founded, few presidents have had as close a bond with their intelligence chiefs as Mr. Obama has forged with Mr. Brennan. It is a relationship that has shaped the policy and politics of the debate over the nation’s war with terrorist organizations, as well as the agency’s own struggle to balance security and liberty.”

    Given Obama’s special bond with Brennan, if the latter is a Muslim convert, there are troubling national security implications.

    Brennan’s questionable loyalty dates back to the terrorist attacks on 9/11.

    On September 18, 2014, on the Ground Zero radio program, a whistle blower named Greg Ford of the 223rd Military Intelligence Battalion claimed that Brennan, as chief of the CIA station in Jeda, overrode concerns and ordered that the visas of the 19 plane-hijackers be stamped. At 1:32:47 into the interview, Ford talked about ISIS and how it was created. Someone called in with a question about 9/11. Ford said:

    “All 19 high jackers? Where did they get their visas stamped before they came to this country to launch 9/11? They got their visas stamped in the CIA station in Jeda. And the second in command said ‘No way, absolutely we are not going to stamp those visas.’ And the fellow who was in charge, his name was John Brennan. He was the person who overrode those concerns and cautions and ordered those visas stamped in Jeda.”

    There have long been rumors that John Owen Brennan is a Muslim convert. A member of this Consortium, John Molloy, Chairman of the National Vietnam & Gulf War Veterans Coalition, has heard of those rumors from his military sources. Now, we have published confirmation from a credible journalist.

    Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist, author and columnist. As a U.S. Naval Officer, he managed one of the first computer security programs for the U.S. Navy. He subsequently worked for the National Security Agency. (See his extended bio here.)

    In a for-subscribers-only article for his news site, Wayne Madsen Report, on August 11, 2015, Madsen maintains there is “growing evidence that CIA’s John Brennan is a Wahhabist convert.”

    Madsen begins by noting that Obama had wanted to appoint Brennan CIA director in 2009, but there was internal CIA and congressional opposition to his nomination, ostensibly because of Brennan’s involvement in “enhanced interrogation” techniques used against detainees after 9/11, but the actual reasons for the initial opposition remains unclear to this day.

    Find out more…….

    and how many Muslims are in the CIA??
    read this…..

    YES, Trump needs to drain the CIA swamp

  38. AND NOW……….
    …………it appears that Rex Tillerson (CEO of Exxon/Mobil) is going to be the SOS. Once again Trump has brought another INTELLECTUAL on board. So far all of the people he has “HIRED” have a PROVEN history ,and a resume of accomplishment…………unlike the PIECES OF SHI# which Soetoro appointed, many of whom had a CRIMINAL PAST…….but then it sort of proves once again that BIRDS OF A FEATHER DO INDEED FLOCK TOGETHER, and CARRY will be goin home to Mzzzzzzzzzzzz. PICKLE FACE……….FULL TIME! har har.

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