Goldman Sachs Jan Hatzius Obamacare caused few hundred thousand workers hours cut, Disincentives for full time employment, Involuntary part time employment, White Americans decimated under Obama, Citizen Wells Hatzius jobs debate

Goldman Sachs Jan Hatzius Obamacare caused few hundred thousand workers hours cut, Disincentives for full time employment, Involuntary part time employment, White Americans decimated under Obama, Citizen Wells Hatzius jobs debate

“All of the employment gains among women since the recession hit in December 2007 have been taken by foreigners, even at a time when the numbers of U.S.-born women surged more than 600,000, according to new federal statistics.”…Washington Examiner August 7, 2015

“Nearly half of U.S. companies are reluctant to hire full-time employees because of the ACA. One in five firms indicates they are likely to hire fewer employees, and another one in 10 may lay off current employees in response to the law.

Other firms will shift toward part-time workers. More than 40 percent of CFOs say their companies will consider switching some jobs to less than 30 hours per week or targeting part-time workers for future employment.”…Duke University Fuqua School of Business December 11, 2013

“We are being lied to on a scale unimaginable by George Orwell.”…Citizen Wells


You remember Jan Hatzius and the jobs debate with Citizen Wells?

From Zero Hedge June 8, 2016.

“Goldman Crushes Democrat’s Dreams: Shows Obamacare Has Cost “A Few Hundred Thousand Jobs””

“We suspect Lloyd Blankfein will be receiving a call from The White House (or Treasury) very soon as Goldman Sachs’ economists did the unthinkable in the age of political correctness – while investigating the state of under-employment in America, the smartest people in the room found that ObamaCare has led to a rise in involuntary part-time employment, estimating that “a few hundred thousand workers” have been forced to cut hours and has “created disincentives for full-time employment.”

Goldman’s Jan Hatzius explains that they find mixed evidence to support the theory that the employer mandate under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) has contributed to the elevated level of involuntary part-time work.

Our estimates of the effect by industry do show signs of an effect, particularly among the sectors that had the greatest gaps in required health insurance coverage prior to implementation of the mandate, but the relationship is weak.


It is possible that the level of involuntary part-time workers could be a few hundred thousand higher than it would be otherwise as a result of the mandate, which is a small share of the 6.4 million workers employed part-time involuntarily, but potentially a much larger share of the “underemployment gap”.”


“As Goldman concludes…

Overall we believe that the evidence suggests that the ACA has at least modestly elevated involuntary part-time employment.


While the effect is hard to quantify given the apparently loose relationship just noted, we would estimate that a few hundred thousand workers might be working part-time involuntarily as a result of the ACA. We reach this estimate by multiplying the difference between the actual and estimated involuntary part-time workers in the five sectors most affected by the ACA mandate by total employment in those sectors. We can reach a similar estimate by dividing the sectors into two groups weighted equally by total employment, and subtracting the difference between actual and estimated involuntary part-time employment in the less-affected group by the difference in the more affected group. These admittedly rough measures fall in the middle of the few academic studies on the topic, and suggest that while the effect of the ACA employer mandate is small compared to the total number of the 6.4 million workers employed part-time for economic reasons, it could constitute a more significant share of the estimated remaining “underemployment gap.”

There goes Blankfein’s invite to Hillary’s inauguration.”

Read more:

From Citizen Wells February 8, 2015.

“Goldman Sachs chief economist Jan Hatzius was interviewed on CNBC on Friday, February 6, 2015 after the January jobs report.

From Citizen Wells February 7, 2015.

From Zero Hedge February 6, 2015.

“Following the January jobs report, Goldman’s chief economist Jan Hatzius appeared on CNBC but instead of joining Steve Liesman in singing the praises of the “strong” the report (which apparently missed the memo about  the  crude collapse), he decided to do something totally different and instead emphasize the two series that none other than Zero Hedge has been emphasizing for years as the clearest indication of what is really happening with the US labor market: namely the recession-level civilian employment to population ratio and the paltry annual increase in average hourly earnings.

This is what Hatzius said (2:40 into the clip):

The employment to population ratio is still 4% below where it was in 2006. You can explain 2% of that with the aging of the population that still leaves quite a lot of room potentially, and the wage numbers are telling us we are just not that close, although we are getting closer.””

Read more:

I sent the following email to  Jan Hatzius.

I have not yet received a response.

I have a math, computer science & business background.
I am also one of the baby boomers.
You recently appeared on CNBC & stated:

The employment to population ratio is still 4% below where it was in 2006. You can explain 2% of that with the aging of the population that still leaves quite a lot of room potentially, and the wage numbers are telling us we are just not that close, although we are getting closer.”

Would you elaborate on:

“You can explain 2% of that with the aging of the population”

I am preparing an article

and want to be accurate.



Jan Hatzius did respond in less than 24 hours and we debated via email the validity of his statement:

“You can explain 2% of that with the aging of the population”

I will not present the entire exchange unless he requests it.

Here are our ending remarks.


“Thanks for your response.

I have no wish to be unkind to you.
However, I consider it a “sacred” duty to report the truth, facts.
For what it is worth, I have much German ancestry and was baptized and raised in the Lutheran Church.
I even worked as VP of Administration for a German company in the US circa 1983.

Apples and oranges.
The studies that you quote are projections done in 2006, not historical analysis.
I am not questioning the projections.
They are projections probably done by competent people using the best data available.
But they are projections, not history, done before probably the biggest anomaly in recorded US job history.

What we are addressing is simple.
The percent of people employed in 2006 vs now.
It does not matter what the mix of age groups employed is.
The problem is that there are not enough jobs now of the right type to give the same ratio as in 2006.
The problem is exacerbated by too many part time jobs which yield a result of too many people working multiple jobs.
Jan Hatzius:

“It is also true that there are not enough jobs. That’s why I said population aging accounts for 2 of the 4 percentage points of decline, not for the entire decline.
Best regards,

I would like to thank Jan Hatzius again. He did not have to respond.

I will leave it to the reader to decide who is right.

However, I found an article that may provide insight.

From Fortune November 6, 2012.

“Obama’s best friend at Goldman Sachs”

“To be sure, the German-born Hatzius hasn’t publicly stated that he supports the President. But his analysis, which is widely read in financial circles, has long jibed with the monetary and fiscal policies embraced by Democrats. In numerous notes published over the last few years, Hatzius has advocated stimulus spending and called for more quantitative easing, renouncing efforts to slash the deficit as premature.”

“Hatzius’ views have endeared him to the likes of liberal economist Paul Krugman, who has mentioned the Goldmanite nearly a dozen times in his New York Timesblog. Krugman has repeatedly referred to Hatzius’ group as “excellent,” calling the economist a “very calm, measured guy.” Back in 2009, he noted that Hatzius’ analysis was “spot on.””

“Hatzius sounded warnings about the housing market as early as 2005, when hepublished a report that asked “Bubble Trouble? Probably Yes.” In December of 2007, the economics writer Ben Stein criticized Hatzius in the New York Timesfor his gloomy prognostications, accusing the economist of fear-mongering in order to support Goldman’s bearish position.

Stein (incorrectly) mocked Hatzius for his view that the subprime mortgage crisis could spin out of control, hampering lending and slowing growth. “He is also postulating,” Stein wrote, “that lenders would have to retrench so deeply that lending would stall and growth would falter — an event that, again, has not happened on any scale in the postwar world, except when planned by the central bank.” (The piece, available here, is worth reading for its comedic value alone).”

Read more:

Further remarks from Citizen Wells:

“The reason that we have a 4 percent drop in the p of p, percent of population, working is that we do not enough jobs and
good full time jobs to maintain the same ratio.

The problem is exacerbated by too many part time jobs which yield a result of too many people working multiple jobs.

In 2006 we knew how the population was growing in terms of births and deaths with some anticipated immigration.

We did not know that the economy was going to collapse and that Obama would permit a flow of illegals to enter our country
and workforce. We also did not know that much of the job growth was going to be in part time and lower wage positions.

Regarding baby boomers and their impact on the job market.

This is being tossed about indiscriminately without justification.

We are on the leading edge of baby boomers reaching the traditional retirement age of 65.

Most of the baby boomers, which include those born up to 1964, have not reached retirement age yet.

Some people retire before that age but in recent years there has been a trend of retiring later.

Older workers generally have a more beneficial impact on the p of p ratio. Those retiring generally are retiring from a
full time job. Many of those who continue to work are in one part time job.

This yields a one to one scenario of one person to one job.

Younger people are having a more detrimental impact on the p of p ratio.

Because so many of the jobs being created are part time and/or lower wage jobs, the younger folks are working 2 or more of
these jobs.

This is hurting the ratio.

Also, unlike what you are being led to believe, there are far more of the younger people.

Let’s take the example of those turning 65 in 2014, born in 1949 and those turning 22 in 2014, born in 1992. I chose age
22 to account for college even though some of them entered the work force earlier, if they could find a job.

There were 3.56 million people born in the US in 1949. 85 % or 3.026 million are alive.

There were 4.08 million people born in 1992. Probably at least 4 million still alive.

Let’s assume that all of the people who turned 65 retired.

That is still a net gain of about a million in the workforce.

I mentioned above that in 2006 we did not know that Obama would allow so many illegal immigrants into the US.

Recently I reported about the even bigger drop in the p of p ratio in NC.

From Citizen Wells February 3, 2015.

“The plummet of the labor force participation rate in NC, other states and the US is big news and should be more widely

The percentage of the population working is also important and in some ways more significant.

Since the big news today was the lowest so called initial claims number in 15 years let’s go back to January 2000 and
compare the employment to population percent from then to now.

Jan 2000 64.6

Dec 2014 59.2

That’s a plummet of 5.4 percent!

Jan 2000 65.1

Dec 2014 56.5

That’s a plummet of 8.6 percent !!!”

From the Center for Immigration Studies August 2014.

“An analysis of government data by the Center for Immigration Studies shows that, since 2000, all of the net increase in the number of working-age (16 to 65) people holding a job in North Carolina has gone to immigrants (legal and illegal).
This is the case even though the native-born accounted for 61 percent of growth in the state’s total working-age population.”

Read more:

In conclusion, the answer is simple.

We do not have enough good jobs to maintain the same ratio of people working that we had in 2006.”


42 responses to “Goldman Sachs Jan Hatzius Obamacare caused few hundred thousand workers hours cut, Disincentives for full time employment, Involuntary part time employment, White Americans decimated under Obama, Citizen Wells Hatzius jobs debate

  1. citizenwells

    “Over the last six months, of the net job creation, 97 percent of that is part-time work,”…Keith Hall, former BLS chief

  2. AND……..
    ………..just like France (which has only a couple of major manufacturers) in the entirety of the country, America will soon follow suite. Basically if it wasn’t for our automotive industry a helluva lot of our secondary manufacturers would have disappeared LONG AGO. When automotive goes into depression stage very little will move thereafter. What has happened to American manufacturers is primarily the fault of heavy taxation of companies, compounded by costly government mandated restrictions, compounded upon employee greed. Collectively this has already virtually ruined our economy, and driven many companies offshore, putting a ever growing number of people out of work. Now we will soon have a nationally mandated $15.00 per hour minimum wage which will drive another nail in America’s coffin. If the liberals win in November they will without a doubt drive the FINAL NAIL into America’s coffin. More companies will either go out of business or move offshore. After the warriors have left there will be only chiefs remaining………and they are not about to dirty their hands with work. No warriors … work.
    A company like WalMart makes a good measuring stick of our overall economy. ………….now we are seeing WalMart closing hundreds of stores that have become unprofitable. Even Mc Donalds restaurants have closed up a large number of failed franchises.Other retailers have substantially reduced inventory levels, and numbers of full time employees as well. American business is seriously ill, and if the disease is not soon treated ALL AMERICAN business could succumb. The treatment MUST BEGIN SOON at GOVERNMENT LEVELS. When the LIBERAL MENTALITY is removed from American business this will be one very large step in the right direction. Another facet lies in the RE EDUCATION of the American laborer. Then CREDIT SPENDING MUST BE severely restricted, otherwise the American factory worker will NEVER BE ABLE TO CONTROL his/her spending habits. As it stands the more they earn the MORE THEY SPEND which includes CREDIT SPENDING.

  3. American business simply cannot remain profitable when it is constantly being bombarded by new, and costly government mandates. Hopefully Trump will win the WACKY HOUSE, and turn it once again into the WHITE HOUSE.(after extensive fumigation, and REHAB to clean out the permeated filth left behind by our present leader.)

  4. AND FINALLY……..
    ……….. there must be a high level of business at the present tense, and a forcast of increasing volumes of business in the forseeable future for JOB GROWTH to occur. Business happens before JOB GROWTH HAPPENS. Of course we all know that in the liberal mindset, you just clap your hsnds. or wave a magic wand, and VOILA a JOB APPEARS.

  5. AND NOW……….
    ………….Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Warren (Sacagawea) is calling Donald Trump a NASTY FRAUD. Here we go again…….the pot calling the kettle BLACK……….talk about a fraud……..ohhhhhh wellllll! Could it be that Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.Warren has a TWISTED sexual hangup on Native American females?

  6. BTW…………
    ………..out of control credit spending is one of the many reasons why America is in the ongoing financial mess it is in…………if you don’t believe that you need to take a look at the national debt which is now well past 19 trillion. After our economy falls off the cliff there will be only one remedy…………which is for Congress to formally declare all credit debt forgiven, hence legally paid, print new money and start over. It will be excruciatingly painful, but a hell of a lot less painful than trying to pay such indebtedness. America’s national debt has long since PASSED THE POINT OF NO RETURN. Thanx to a succession of liberal minded leaders, and an out of control WallSt.

  7. Looks like Judge Curiel broke some US Judge codes “of conduct”

  8. bob strauss

    SHOCKING San Jose Undercover Police Report: “Trump Supporters Were Running for Their Lives… I Feared for My Own Safety”

    Jim Hoft Jun 9th, 2016 9:15 am

    The San Jose Police Department released documents on the brutal mass beatings of Trump supporters last Thursday outside the San Jose Convention Center.

    Trump supporters were assaulted, spit on, beaten, cold-cocked, egged, chased, tackled and bloodied as they left the San Jose Trump rally by mobs of far left, Mexican nationalist, Socialist, SEIU and anarchist thugs.

    According to numerous eye-witness reports, in addition to the lack of action by the undercover police officers, the uniformed police officers were under a departmental order to stand down and not assist any victim of the mob attacks.

    Several victims have now approached media to inform them of conversations where they cried out for help during the beatings only to be told by uniformed officers of the San Jose Police Department that they were under strict instructions not to aid any Trump supporter.

    San Jose Police Chief Garcia admitted his officers were instructed not to stop violent protesters from beating the Trump rally attendees. In addition the San Jose Mayor has openly admitted to approving the San Jose police departments plans, and blamed Donald Trump for having the audacity to have a rally in “his city“.

  9. citizenwells

    The kiss of death.

    “Obama endorses Hillary Clinton. “I don’t think there’s ever been someone so qualified to hold this office.””

  10. citizenwells

    “It Took $10 In New Debt To Create $1 Of Growth In The First Quarter”

  11. bob strauss

    Judicial Watch

    Judicial Watch today released the deposition transcript of Karin Lang, director of executive secretariat staff and designated representative for the State Department. The Lang transcript is available here. Lang was designated by the State Department as its 30(b)(6) witness. A 30(b)(6) witness is assigned to provide the agency’s testimony on the Clinton email issue.

    Judicial Watch Releases Clinton Email Deposition Testimony of Karin Lang
    (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released the deposition transcript of Karin Lang, director of executive secretariat staff and designated representative…

  12. AND TODAY………
    ……….Soetoro has endorsed Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. PIGGY!

  13. SOETORO SAYS………..

  14. ALSO…………..

  15. oldsailor84
    birds of a feather flock together as the saying goes.

  16. citizenwells

    Trudy, yes they do.

  17. I THINK……….
    ………Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Warren must be Pocahontas,Sacagawea, rolled into one, but truthfully she generates “MANY HA HAs” when we look at her facial grimaces which seem to be present 24/7. This suggests mental incompetency.(NUT CASE). This is the same sort of expression we constantly see on Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. IMPORTANT, AND Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. PIGGY’S FACES AS WELL.

  18. Trudy………

  19. AND VERY SOON……….
    ……….we will see TOTAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL on the internet within America. There are BILLIONS of WEB SITES that will be ordered to be SHUT DOWN. This will also affect FACEBOOK, and TWITTER. Land line telephones are to be monitored 24/7……….there is no longer such a thing as a PRIVATE telephone except in the CHICAGO BASTARD’S OFFICE. If Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. PIGGY is elected it will all happen immediately

  20. NO SURPRISE………
    ……….the mayor of San Jose, and the police department will SOON be facing heavy civil action against them………in the MILLIONS of dollars because of their inaction when it was fully justified, and needed. The so called leaders ORDERED the police to “STAND DOWN”. (WHERE HAVE WE HEARD THAT BEFORE).

    ………A SNOTNOSED MEMBER OF CONGRESS, RAVED THAT DONALD TRUMP MUST STOP TALKING ABOUT TRUMP UNIVERSITY. This little POS is a classic example of exactly what is wrong with the MORONS IN OUR GOVERNMENT. Donald Trump has every LEGAL right to talk either publically, or privately about something which he OWNS. Such a demand is a twisted oral utterance of a twisted Congressional LIBERAL. I SAY TO THE SNOTNOSED LITTLE POS WHY DON’T YOU GO TO TRUMP YOURSELF AND SAY THAT TO HIS FACE?……..ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH? I THINK NOT. YOU WOULD PROBABLY RECEIVE A WELL PLACED KNUCKLE SANDWICH…………YOU MIGHT ALSO TRY …STOP PICKING YOUR NOSE, PUT YOUR HAT ON STRAIGHT,PULLYOUR TROUSERS UP,AND WASH YOUR A$$ ONCE IN AWHILE. All of this compounded by the idiotic LIBERAL females venting their halfwitted BS gave me the justification to turn off my TV this morning.

  22. bob strauss

    Trudy | June 10, 2016 at 7:39 am |

    birds of a feather flock together as the saying goes.

    They require each other!

    When it comes time to pardon each other for the crimes they are guilty of, the strategy must be in place, this is the Muslim Brotherhood’s last gasp to maintain their grasp on DC.

    Going to the root of the fraud is the usurper’s true ID. All of DC is $hitting in their pants, scared to death that Trump is going to blow the lid off of this RICO regime, and their enabler RINOs, who have raped this country nearly to death.

    I would start by auditing every member of congress’ bank accounts, and the audit the accounts of all agents doing business with the U.S. government.

  23. bob strauss

    oldsailor84 | June 10, 2016 at 11:40 am |



    I think “snotnose” is more afraid that Trump will expose the crooked judiciary, and the fact these “judges” are linked to groups wanting to overthrow the U.S. government.

  24. bob strauss

    Pamela Geller

    Imagine the wild, wild west – without the morality.

    It is increasingly clear that the USA, like the Roman Empire, will self destruct due in large part due to the gradual loss of civic virtue among its citizens. We will not survive the elevation of barbarians to elected office — all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue …..

    San Jose Police Chief Who Admits ALLOWING ATTACKS on Trump Supporters is Affiliated With La Raza…

  25. bob strauss

    Could that money theoretically sponsor terrorism?


    Judicial Watch

    Since 2010 the program has granted thousands of loans to refugees that lack the financial resources, credit history or personal assets to qualify for business loans from commercial banks. Most if not all the recipients already get assistance or subsidies from the government, according to the qualification guidelines set by the Microenterprise Development Program.

    It’s a risky operation that blindly gives public funds to poor foreign nationals with no roots in the U.S. and there’s no follow up to assure the cash is paid back. The idea behind it is to “equip refugees with the skills they need to become successful entrepreneurs” by helping them expand or maintain their own business and become financially independent.
    U.S. Doesn’t Track if Millions in Biz “Loans” to Refugees on Public Assistance Are Repaid

    The U.S. government gives refugees on public assistance special “loans” of up to $15,000 to start a business but fails to keep track of defaults that could translate…

  26. bob strauss

    Judicial Watch

    Judicial Watch today announced that it filed an opposition motion to Clinton email witness Bryan Pagliano’s attempt to file immunity agreements ex parte and under seal. Also, Judicial Watch asked the court to deny Pagliano’s effort to avoid videotaping of his deposition, during which he plans to assert his Fifth Amendment right.

    Judicial Watch: Court Should Not Seal Clinton IT Official Immunity Agreements – Judicial Watch

    Justice Department Files Last Minute Brief Supporting Immunity Agreement Secrecy (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today announced that it filed an…

  27. bob strauss

    “They’re probably thinking they could make short work of anyone who would oppose a Felon/Fauxcahontas ticket by playing the gender card non-stop for the next four months.”

  28. bob strauss

    Benghazi Chair Gowdy Subpoenas Top Obama Pentagon Official: ‘Deliberate Concealment’

    A top Pentagon official, who Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C. charged may have misled the House Select Committee on Benghazi, has now been subpoenaed to testify.

    The issue in question centers on the committee’s request to the Pentagon in February seeking the identity of “John from Iowa.” The Air Force service member called into Sean Hannity’s radio program in 2013, stating he had been a drone operator the night of the Sept. 11, 2012 Benghazi attacks.

    The man told Hannity it was clear from what he was seeing that there was no way the attacks were the result of a spontaneous uprising because of an internet video, which both U.N. ambassador Susan Rice and then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton claimed.

  29. Talk shows in these parts are going batty because Liawatha (a/k/a Fauxcahontas, a/k/a Chief Spreading Bull) powwowed with Cankles in a ‘private meeting in The Big Teepee.’ I’m sure there was some smoking of the pipe (probably not the peace one) during that little chat.

    The popular thinking is that an all-female ticket would crash and burn what’s left of the Democrat party, especially with these two.

    Liawatha is indeed on Cankles’ short list for VPOTUS however, no one seems to think she’ll be the pick. Chief Spreading Bull said today that she was ‘ready and perfectly capable’ to take over the Presidency should something happened to Cankles (it’s that damned persistent cough, ya know); I nearly backdrafted iced tea through my nose.

    Lose/Fraud #1 and Loser/Fraud #2 on the same ticket; you can’t make this stuff up…

    Let’s hope the talk shows and associated instant polls are right however, it would be fun to see the debates with Trump and his VPOTUS pick against these two creeps.

    Popcorn is ready…

  30. bob strauss

    SueK | June 10, 2016 at 10:53 pm |
    Popcorn is ready…


    It’s all they have, a felon, and a liar.

    After 8 years of usurper Obama, the democrats have run out of criminals, and kooks to fill the bill, so they end up with these two. Trump should challenge them to take a polygraph exam, that’s how sick this has gotten under the Clintons, and their puppet usurper.

    They have been an absolute failure, and have destroyed the integrity of nearly everything they’ve touched.

    This episode has been way worse than the Carter failure.

  31. Bob Strauss………
    ………….you are correct in your assertion that the CHICAGO CRIMINAL CARTEL has destroyed the integrity of everything it has touched. In addition it is plain to see that we now have the worst of the worst human SLIME holding high level federal government positions. Further there is now existing a JUNIOR FEMALE CRIMINAL CARTEL VYEING to take over the leadership of the existing government cartel. I believe that we are seeing a level of human scum that makes the likes of Al Capone, and the Italian Mafia look like 1st grade children. We have had the worst of the worst human slime leading our country, and another similar crowd trying to make the American people believe that they want to SAVE America. In reality these human BASTARDS want to DESTROY America. These BASTARDS are the TWISTED MORONS who call themselves PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS. And you CAN BELIEVE that these BASTARDS will TRY, DO, AND SAY ANYTHING which they think will secure their occupation of the WACKY HOUSE for at least 4 years. These BASTARDS have CRIMINAL HISTORIES that would shock the MOST HARDENED POLICE OFFICERS. The BASTARDS have ACCOMPLISHED LIARS backing them, along with a now CRIMINALISED JUDICIAL SYSTEM. IN SHORT honest hard working Americans will soon see the truth of it all………..that is providing Americans still have the INTELLIGENCE to SEE the TRUTH. I am beginning to have my doubts that our younger folks have the intelligence to do much of anything successfully.

  32. AND NOW……….
    …………TodayTrump has actually publically called Killary……. CROOKED! Mr. Michigan is now saying Trump is creating TRICKLE DOWN RACISM…….and there is another example of why Mr.Michigan lost the election……….HIS MOUTH…….”.AND LITTLE MISS MUFFET SAT ON HER TUFFET SPEWING HER #HIT, AND LIES”, and lastly in this montage GET A LOAD OF THE GAIT OF Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, MANY HA HA, HER WALK IS A LITTLE LIKE THAT OF THE SOUTH END OF A HORSE HEADED NORTH……… me MANY HA HAs.



  35. …………do you think that the meeting between MANY HAHA, and Killary might have been productive?………LOTS OF MUFF DIVING FOR ALL!

  36. Why is Killary so HUNG UP ON WOMEN? Doesn’t look good at all where she is concerned! seems to reflect a little UNPRESIDENTIAL PREOCCUPATION.

  37. AND………
    …….happy BIRTHDAY TO QUEEN ELIZABETH from America!

  38. oldsoldier80


    you ask….’Why is Killary so HUNG UP ON WOMEN? “…the answer is simple….she’s a lesbian …….

  39. oldsoldier80

    Bob Strauss…

    you said….”This episode has been way worse than the Carter failure.”…..

    Carter failed out of pure IGNORANCE…the Clinton’s have failed out of pure GREED…….

  40. bob strauss | June 11, 2016 at 3:16 am |

    Hi Bob,


    If you’re severely mentally progressive (if that makes sense!) the Dems have a job for you! I’m surprised that Piglosi and Washerwoman-Schultz aren’t somewhere in the mix, other than opening their pieholes and talking trash on a regular basis.

    Like Obama, everything they touch turns to crap, with their ‘followers’ holding signs and screaming approval. I just can’t understand that mentality.

    CW was right when he said that an Obama endorsement is the kiss of death; let’s hope that holds until November.

    Yes, Jimmah Carter was bad however, he pales in comparison to the Clinton Crime Syndicate! The general electorate wasn’t aware of all of their shenanigans due to the lovefest they had with the puppy press. It’s blogs like this one that reveal exactly how bad it was then, and is now.

    Let’s just hope that they both get their just desserts, served in an orange jumpsuit.

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