Russia biggest winner in US Iran deal?, Russian Iranian January 20, 2015 military cooperation agreement, Russia lost $13 billion in arms contracts because of sanctions, Iran was the fourth largest importer of Russian military equipment

Russia biggest winner in US Iran deal?, Russian Iranian January 20, 2015 military cooperation agreement, Russia lost $13 billion in arms contracts because of sanctions, Iran was the fourth largest importer of Russian military equipment

“[During negotiations,] the importance of the need to develop Russia and Iran’s cooperation in the joint struggle against meddling in the affairs of the region by external forces that are not part of it was framed,”…Iranian Defense Minister Hossein Dehghan

“President Barack Obama telephoned Russian President Vladimir Putin Wednesday to thank the Russian leader for his integral role in reaching nuclear deal with Iran.”…UPI July 16, 2015

“We are being lied to on a scale unimaginable by George Orwell.”…Citizen Wells

 

 

Forget the impact of an influx of Iranian oil on market prices.

The price of oil is artificially low now and will shoot back up eventually.

Russia stands to gain much when sanctions are lifted on Iran as it lost much when they were imposed.

And don’t forget, any of the theoretical new sanctions or punishments that could  be imposed on Iran can be vetoed by Russia.

From The Diplomat January 21, 2015.

“On January 20, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and his Iranian counterpart, Defense Minister Hossein Dehghan, signed an intergovernmental agreement on “long term and multifaceted” military cooperation in Tehran, Iran. It is the first time in 15 years that a Russian defense minister has visited Iran and underlines the growing military and diplomatic ties between both countries united by their joint opposition to U.S. foreign policy in the Middle Eastern region and beyond.

According to Sputnik News, defense minister Hossein Dehghan is quoted as saying that during bilateral discussions, “the importance of the need to develop Russia and Iran’s cooperation in the joint struggle against meddling in the affairs of the region by external forces that are not part of it was framed.” Dehghan noted that they singled out the U.S. policy that “meddles in the domestic affairs of other countries” as a major reason for the deteriorating security situation in the Middle East and the rest of the world today.

According to the Associated Press, Dehghan furthermore emphasized that, “Iran and Russia are able to confront the expansionist intervention and greed of the United States through cooperation, synergy and activating strategic potential capacities. … As two neighbors, Iran and Russia have common viewpoints toward political, regional and global issues.”

For example, Russia and Iran are both continuing their support of the Assad regime in Syria.”

“Second, full-fledged military cooperation between Iran and Russia can only happen once UN sanctions have been lifted. This largely depends on Tehran’s willingness to reach a mutually acceptable agreement in the P5+1 negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program.  Only then can full-fledged arms sales resume. In October 2011, Russia made its last and so far only public arms sale to Iran in the form of a radar-jamming station. Back in the year 2000, Iran was the fourth largest importer of Russian military equipment placing right after China, India, and the United Arab Emirates, buying 6.1 percent of Russia’s total arms exports. Sputnik News quotes the Center for the Analysis of World Arms Trade in Moscow, which estimated that the Russian defense industry has lost around $13 billion in arms sales due to UN sanctions against Iran.”

http://thediplomat.com/2015/01/russia-and-iran-sign-military-cooperation-agreement/

From the NY Times July 14, 2015.

“Sergey V. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, lost no time in talking about the accord on Iran’s nuclear program. He was on television minutes after the deal was clinched, and even before the formal news conference had begun, announcing the landmark agreement to the audience back home and emphasizing the many potential benefits, strategic and economic, that it holds for Russia.

The deal reopens the door for lucrative contracts to expand Iran’s civilian nuclear energy program, which Russia has been looking forward to for years. And it may neutralize a major reason the United States has offered for developing a missile defense system in Europe, a project that President Vladimir V. Putin and other Kremlin officials have said was a threat to Russian security.”

“Mr. Putin himself issued a statement on Tuesday welcoming the deal, underlining Russia’s role and noting that his government would move ahead with its nuclear power agreements and with strengthening bilateral ties.

He described the accord as “important for the implementation of large-scale plans of peaceful nuclear cooperation between Russia and Iran that got support in the documents approved today.”

Russia possesses some of the world’s foremost expertise in atomic energy, and has helped build and operate atomic reactors in Iran for many years. Rosatom, the Russian state nuclear energy company, helped build and expand the Bushehr nuclear plant and already has contracts to build two more reactors there.

Mr. Lavrov said Russia and Iran have “very ambitious plans for the development of Iranian nuclear power.” He also said Russia expected to have a major role in putting the accord with Iran into effect, including two areas specified in the agreement: the shipment of low-enriched uranium from Iran to Russia in exchange for supplies of natural uranium, and the modification of the Fordo enrichment processing plant to produce stable isotopes for medical and industrial purposes instead of bomb fuel.

Beyond the energy sector, Russia expects to make substantial sales of conventional weapons to Iran. In the late stages of negotiations, Mr. Lavrov made a hard, dramatic push for an immediate and complete lifting of an international arms embargo against Iran, apparently helping set the stage for a deal.

In the end, a compromise was reached that will continue the embargo for five to eight years. Still, Mr. Lavrov suggested that Russia stood to benefit even sooner from renewed arms deals with Tehran because exceptions would be allowed under new notification and United Nations approval procedures.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/15/world/europe/russia-quickly-maneuvers-to-capitalize-on-iran-nuclear-deal.html?_r=0

Oh, and by the way…..

From Reuters July 18, 2015.

“Russia’s Putin orders formation of new military reserve force

Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered the creation of a new reserve armed force as part of steps to improve training and military readiness at a time of international tensions with the West over Ukraine.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/18/us-russia-putin-military-reserves-idUSKCN0PS0CZ20150718

 

 

 

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84 responses to “Russia biggest winner in US Iran deal?, Russian Iranian January 20, 2015 military cooperation agreement, Russia lost $13 billion in arms contracts because of sanctions, Iran was the fourth largest importer of Russian military equipment

  1. citizenwells

    “The President thanked President Putin for Russia’s important role in achieving this milestone, the culmination of nearly 20 months of intense negotiations,” White House statement.

  2. citizenwells

    “Analysis: Putin the Real Winner in US Nuke Deal With Iran”

    “It’s much easier to explain why Russian President Vladimir Putin wants a multilateral deal with Iran than President Obama. The political and economic gains from the removal of United Nations-imposed sanctions are palpable for Russia, while iffy at best for the U.S.”

    “The benefits to Russia are clear. True, if the oil-for- goods swap takes place, the global supply of oil would increase putting downward pressure prices, a negative for a major oil exporter such as Russia. But Putin already has contingency plans in place to survive an oil price of $40 a barrel — debt-laden U.S. shale producers would suffer more from a further price dip. Their output is already beginning to drop because the current price (just under $60 for a barrel of Brent crude oil) is too low for them to continue investing in new drilling. For Putin, a shale crisis in the U.S. is as desirable as it is for the rulers of Saudi Arabia and Iran. Besides, such a deal would build business ties between Iran and the Russian oil companies that would export its oil, a useful asset for when sanctions are lifted.

    Doing more business with Iran wherever possible should also help Putin build a political alliance with a major Middle Eastern regional player, cemented by the strong anti-Americanism in both Moscow and Tehran. As Lynn Davis of Rand Corp. pointed out in a recent paper:”

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Putin-Russia-Iran-Obama/2015/04/15/id/638675/#ixzz3gL9nkFUK

  3. oldsailor83

    CW……….
    ……..there is little doubt that war is BIG BUSINESS with BIG PROFITS. People in our government as well as Russia know that, and you can be sure that BOTH governments will either secretly or openly do anything they can to advocate ARMED CONFLICT.

  4. oldsailor83

    CW…..

    ……..if there is any question you need only examine the CLINTONS, and their alleged foundation. While I am sure there will be NO EVIDENCE of wrong on their part, there is plenty of evidence elsewhere which states to the contrary.

  5. oldsailor83

    OT but important!
    Many people are highly incensed because Trump got on McCain’s case. Yet they refuse to recognize that McCain ROUNDLY ASKED FOR Trump to respond as he did. Of late McCain has been outspoken on many issues. …….but everything Trump said was TRUE, so if the shoe fits……….. However I might mildly disagree on the “capture” words…….I think I would have said McCain was AT THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME, and subsequently had his aircraft shot out from under him. Whether he was there by a mistake on his part is probably impossible to prove one way or the other………war is war, and airplanes do get shot down. That is a risk that the pilots KNOWINGLY take. He was probably lucky to have lived through it all. ……..but irregardless Trump is RIGHT once again.

  6. citizenwells

    McCain lost all credibility with me in 2008.

  7. oldsailor83

    The CREATORS of the NUCLEAR BEAST will undoubtedly be CONSUMED BY THEIR OWN HANDIWORK……….along with many INNOCENT PEOPLE.

  8. CW……..
    …….me too!

  9. Mr. Wells ..Me three
    Did any one see Frank Luntz on Fox and Friends (weekend) The poor baby was so sad the way Mr. Trump spoke the truth about McCain.. (gag) I think Luntz..tried to set Mr. Trump up!
    Boy…McCain’s FB is getting bashed! Gov, Huckabee and Ted Cruse FB page is getting bashed for defending McCain. Most agree with his being held capture but as a Senator he is useless! Even the vets are supporting Mr. Trump.

  10. I was myself once a democrat! I voted for John Kennedy……..but I along with millions of others have watched the Democratic party be HIJACKED by the LIBERAL PROGRESSIVES, who advocate SOCIALISM. Now the entire remainder of the party behave like small children at Christmas time, 24/7. Children HAVE A CHILDISH REASON for their behavior, but grown adults who sieze upon anything, anywhere,anytime to behave like small children tells a sad story……..they live in their little TWISTED FANTASYLAND where UP is DOWN, and REASON or LOGIC are NOT PERMITTED. Yesterday I watched a news clip where Hillary was walking next to Mzzzzzzzzzzzzz.Pelosi……..I had never realized it before but they look like carbon copies of each other. I guess that is what living in FANTASYLAND begets. Both had the same IDIOTIC expression on their faces! If they are examples of advanced formal education, I find myself very content just to be a DUMBA$$.

  11. AND NOW……..
    ……..we are seeing ,and hearing the LIBERAL PSYCHOPATHS, refer to Trump as “DONALD DUCK”……QUACK,QUACK, QUACK. ………once again the LIBERAL FANTASY MILL is SPEWING IT’S CHILDISH, and TWISTED attempts to bash TRUMP. As long as Trump keeps telling the truth the PROGRESSIVE NIT WITS will continue to BLOW THEIR MILLIONS propagating more of their lies, invective, and cacophonous expletives, against him………..all of which seems to testify as to his accuracy.

  12. ” OH WHAT FUN IT IS” TO WATCH THE LIBERALS’ HEADS EXPLODE EVERYTIME TRUMP EVEN HICCUPS”.

  13. TRUMP’S WEIGHT CRUSHES THE NICE SHINEY LIES ,AND FANTASIES AS FAST AS THEY COME OUT THE DOORS OF THE LIBERAL FANTASY MANUFACTURING PLANTS……HAR HAR Their TWISTED LITTLE MINDS are fast running out of raw material.

  14. oldsoldier79

    II just read on one of my news sites this Sunday morning where Obama wants to take his highly FLAWED Nuke deal with IRAN to the UN Security Council on Monday morning and get their approval BEFORE our own Congress gets to have an discussion on this ripoff….

    When is our knee-jerking Congress ever going to stand up to this Usurper who is destroying our country and making a JOKE out of our Constitutional Republic that has served this country for 239 years….WHEN?

    We elected these member of Congress to represent us against exactly what is happening right this moment as I type this post….yet,they turn their backs on those who put them in Washington…..how can this happen?

    Has the Usurper-in-Chief amassed information on the entire 535 members of Congress , all the SCOTUS judges, all the federal judges, and anyone else who could challenge his dictatorship? That possibility cannot be ruled out.

    How can Congress sit idly by and watch our country be destroyed and not raise their voices in protest? What magical power does this master deceiver and his criminal cabal have over those we send to Washington?

    We better wake this nation up to what is really happening and we better wake them up soon…or they will sleep forever if Obama has anything to do with it.

    As Patrick Henry said, so may years ago, …”I know not what course others may take, but as for me……………”

  15. Donald Trump Uses Old Al Franken POW Joke About John McCain.

    Franken 15 years ago: “I don’t buy the war hero thing.
    Anybody can be captured.”

    http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/18/donald-trump-offends-mccain-fans-with-ol

  16. Here’s one for the books

    MARINE RECRUITERS TOLD “NOT” TO WEAR UNIFORMS AFTER ATTACK !!

    Marine Corps Times
    By Jeff Schogol, Staff writer 9:25 a.m. EDT July 19, 2015

    The military services have taken swift action to increase security after Thursday’s shootings in Tennessee, even closing some facilities and telling Marine recruiters not to wear uniforms in public.

    Defense Secretary Ash Cater approved immediate steps taken by the military branches to increase security and has told the services to get back to him by the end of next week with additional force protection measures, Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook said in a statement on Friday.

    The steps were taken just a day after a gunman attacked two military facilities in Chattanooga, leaving four Marines and one sailor dead. Suspected gunman Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez was killed in the attacks on a joint-service recruiting station and a nearby Navy Operational Support Center.

    http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/07/18/marine-recruiters-told-not–wear-uniforms-offices-closed/30353587/

  17. Just one more little question before I shutdown………McCain referred to people who attended the rally as “CRAZIES”. but a hell of a lot of them was VETERANS, so is he IMPLYING that our veterans are CRAZY PEOPLE? If that is the case then I would have to say that he too is a VETERAN. He sits on his duff, and insults decent people with his twisted words, but he hasn’t gotten off his a$$ to help with the VA system which is fast falling apart…….because it is managed by people like him.

  18. oldsoldier79

    Marine to ISIS:
    “We Will Dump Your Sorry Ass Before You Can Scream ‘allah snackbar!’

    In the wake of last week’s jihad attack in Chattanooga, Tennessee that left now five Marines dead, one former Marine says he has had enough and has gone to social media to inform the Islamic State, “You wanted attention, and you got it.

    Only, you chose the wrong people to seek that attention from.”

    He was talking about the United States Marines.

    Hat tip to: Joe For America

    Being overseas is one thing, but when you confront Americans on their home soil – the rules of engagement change dramatically, says Sergeant Jeremy L. Knauff in the wake of the murdering of 5 U.S Marines in the attack last week by an Islamic nutcase in Tennessee.

    Sergeant Knauff writes at Spartan Media:

    There is something you obviously don’t yet know about Marines…

    The brotherhood we share is stronger than the challenges we face, the weapons we master, or the enemies we destroy.

    You will learn that soon though.

    He continued; “You see, we won’t play by the rules you’re accustomed to seeing,” he wrote. “When you play in our backyard, we don’t have to answer to any chain of command. We will not follow ridiculous ROEs crafted by a spineless bureaucrat to appease some goat herding tribal leader. And we won’t be wearing uniforms so that you can easily ambush us.

    Nope. None of that shit.”

    “When you think you’re walking into a target-rich environment, you’re really walking into an ambush,” he continued. “That pudgy, middle-aged guy wearing khakis in the mall, who unbeknownst to you, is a former 0311 and armed, will dump your sorry ass before you have a chance to scream ‘allah snackbar.’

    And that soccer mom pushing a stroller, she’s got a Glock and will happily leave you gasping in a pool of your own blood before she lets you hurt her children.”

    “We are here and we still have the training and experience to wage war, whether here or abroad,” he added. “And wage war we will. Every one of us are willing to fight and die to protect our Marine Corps brothers and sisters, our families and friends, and our way of life.

    You may not have gotten the attention of our Muslim President, or our weak self- indulging Congress but you have gotten the attention of the Marine Corp past and present…”

    Semper Fi!

    Read more at http://patriotoutdoornews.com/14606/marine-to-isis-we-will-dump-your-sorry-ass-before-you-can-scream-allah-snackbar
    ———————————————————————————————
    THIS IS OBVIOUSLY “ONE DAMN FINE MARINE”……And he has his ‘sh*t together and is waiting for those ‘goat-loving’ bastards to meet his challenge….

    That same challenge apparently goes out to the M.U.S.L.I.M. loving pResident we have and the weak lily-liver do-nothing Congress that is dominated by the MUSLIM loving pResident, who is making fools out of them all…….

    Semper Fi Sarge…Semper Fi.

    p.s……. I couldn’t have said it any better myself, nor would I even try !!! There is no doubt in my mind that you are on “The First Team”…!!!

  19. oldsoldier79

    CW…PLEASE RELEASE MY LAST POST FROM MODERATION….

    It is a direct statement from a US Marine about his feelings and the Chattanooga shooting….every American should hear what this young man has to say …….so please release his comments ASAP.

    Thank you

  20. oldsoldier79

    let’s talk about……THE TAIL WAGGING THE DOG !!!!

    Here is the Department of Defenses IMMEDIATE response to the terrorism about the Chattanooga shooting and the “orders the military is too follow now”……talk about retreat,….and it’s right here in our own back yard !!!!

    I think that is exactly how the United States Marine Corp. and all the other branches of our military will feel about this crappy order from the C-in-C !!!

    From the Dept. of Defense;
    “Marine recruiters told not to wear uniforms after attack”.

    The military services have taken swift action to increase security after Thursday’s shootings in Tennessee, even closing some facilities and telling Marine recruiters NOT to wear uniforms in public.

    Defense Secretary Ash Cater approved immediate steps taken by the military branches to increase security and has told the services to get back to him by the end of next week with additional force protection measures, Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook said in a statement on Friday.

    The steps were taken just a day after a lone gunman attacked two military facilities in Chattanooga, leaving four Marines and one sailor dead.

    Suspected ( TERRORIST) gunman Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez was killed in the attacks on a joint-service recruiting station and a nearby Navy Operational Support Center.

    One of the steps Carter approved was Marine Corps Recruiting Command’s decision to have recruiters not wear their military uniforms for now, a defense official said. The recruiting command also closed down all offices within 40 miles of the facilities in Chattanooga and increased the force protection condition level from “Bravo” to “Charlie.”

    “Charlie” is the third highest security level. It indicates an incident has occurred or officials have evidence that terrorists are planning an attack. Security measures can include thorough vehicle inspections and requiring an escort to get on base, according to a pamphlet from Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst in New Jersey.

    U.S. Army Recruiting Command has also elevated its force protection condition level to “Charlie” in coordination with the Marine Corps, the Defense official said. Navy Recruiting Command Southeast has doubled the number of hours it conducted Random Access measures and has increased efforts to work with local law enforcement to increase police patrol protection.
    ———————————————————————————————-
    I have a better suggestion !!!!!!!!

    Let the United States Marines be Marines………exactly what they are trained for … and are willing to do if given the chance.

    There is only ONE order that should be coming out of the Pentagon…..short, simple and too the point; something like this;

    “You are hereby ordered to Arm your forces and tell them to fire on anyone wearing a towel wrapped around his head, and sporting a long shaggy beard, speaking Arabic, and carrying an AK-47 !!!!! ”

    In my opinion, this would be all it would take to stop this madness.

    Without doubt, this would stop all this ‘politically correct” ISLAMIC terrorist murdering crap that is going on in the “free gun zone cities of America”…..

    Haven’t we had enough of this ‘TAIL WAG THE DOG’ crap by now?

    How many good men must die needlessly before we wake up to what is really happening in this country?

  21. citizenwells

    oldsoldier.
    Amen!

  22. oldsailor83

    oldsoldier79
    ……….it is pretty clear that the STINKING A$$ED GOAT LOVERS are already among us and have been for a number of years, thanks to leaders with PEA SIZE BRAINS. As the Seargent so eloquently said the alleged rules of engagement changes when the fight is on our own soil. You will never see where the shot came from, nor will you hear it because you will already be dead, and falling to the ground. LOCK, LOAD, FIRE TO KILL,AND TAKE NO PRISONERS!

  23. citizenwells

    “To cut through the rhetoric surrounding the Iran deal, and to better understand what the two sides conceded and gained, I’ve compiled a balance sheet on the Iran deal. It’s simple and non-technical; a basic list comparing what the U.S. gets versus what Iran gets. The reader is free to make up his own mind about the merits of the deal and the extent to which it advances U.S. interests and U.S. security, and that of our allies.”

    “What Iran gets:

    Sanctions relief:

    – Almost every type of U.S., EU, and UN sanctions lifted

    – Repeal of six UN Security Council resolutions declaring the Iranian nuclear program illegal

    – Top IRGC and Quds Force terrorists removed from the sanctions list, including Qassem Suleimani, leader of Iran’s campaign against U.S. soldiers in Iraq, and Ahmad Vahidi, mastermind of the 1994 Jewish community center bombing in Argentina that killed 85 people

    – The removal from the sanctions list of approximately 800 people and legal entities, including 23 out of 24 Iranian banks

    – $100 to $150 billion to be unfrozen and given to Iran with no restrictions on its use to purchase arms and fund terrorism, including funding for Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Assad regime in Syria

    Nuclear program:

    – Iran keeps every one of its nuclear centrifuges

    – Iran keeps its entire physical nuclear infrastructure, including the enrichment facilities at Fordow and Natanz and the nuclear reactor at Bushehr

    – Iran permitted to continue research and development on all of its advanced centrifuge designs, reducing nuclear breakout time at the end of the deal to weeks

    – Iran permitted to transition its allowed enrichment of uranium from older centrifuge designs to advanced designs

    – No “anywhere, anytime” inspections. Iran can delay inspection of any site for at least 24 days

    – No requirement that Iran fully disclose past nuclear weapons research and development (known as the PMD issue)

    – The P5+1 western powers pledge to collaborate with Iran on nuclear technology

    – Restrictions on enrichment – part of the “sunset” of the deal – are lifted after eight years

    – If Iran is thought to have violated the deal, in order to “snap back” sanctions a dispute resolution process must be undertaken that can last two and a half months, after which the matter can be referred to the UN Security Council. At the UNSC, the re-imposition of sanctions can be vetoed by Russia, which stands to earn billions of dollars from arms sales to a non-sanctioned Iran.

    Concessions unrelated to nuclear program:

    – Ballistic missile embargo lifted after eight years

    – Conventional arms embargo lifted after five years

    – Iran keeps U.S. hostages ”

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/iran-deal-explained_991363.html

  24. citizenwells

    Center for Strategic & International Studies

    June 2015.

    “Russia is also poised to benefit geopolitically from the nuclear accord, because Iran is likely to
    emerge from this process as a newly empowered state, no longer constrained by the
    international sanctions regime and thus able to leverage its enormous energy reserves to obtain
    billions of dollars in additional export revenues. This newfound wealth will enable Iran both to
    rapidly increase its military capability and to better support its allies in the region, including
    Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and Lebanon. Thus, the net effect of the new nuclear accord would be to
    significantly increase Iran’s power in the region relative to that of Saudi Arabia and its Gulf
    Cooperation Council (GCC) allies as well as Israel.
    In general, such an outcome would accrue to the benefit of Russia, which stands to gain the most
    from a newly empowered Iran able to more effectively pursue its Middle East agenda. As things
    currently stand, there are strong incentives for Russia and Iran to increase cooperation in the
    region since in general they share the same geopolitical objectives. For example, Iran and Russia
    both remain strong supporters of the Bashar al-Assad regime in Syria. By contrast, since the Syria
    crisis erupted in earnest, the West has repeatedly called for Assad’s removal from power.
    Although Western nations have recently moderated this position and have even begun
    cooperating with Assad (albeit unofficially) in the battle against the Islamic State in Iraq and
    Syria (ISIS), their willingness to work with Assad remains limited, and is not likely to endure once
    the threat from ISIS is defused.”

    http://csis.org/files/publication/150603_Schwartz_IranDealRussian_Web.pdf

  25. oldsoldier79

    CITIZENWELLS….

    Thanks for taking that Marine’s letter out of moderation…it appears he, like most of us, have had it with this ‘politically correct’ crap where people are dying without the chance to defend themselves all to please this useless C-I-C….

    I thought the young Marine sergeant said it quite well !

    Also, you are absolutely correct when you say that RUSSIA is a big winner in this Iranian nuke deal…..there were TWO winners in that give away deal…..

    RUSSIA and IRAN…..but there was only ONE BIG LOOSER…the United States !

    I read somewhere today where Obama plans to take this rotten nuke deal to the UN Security Council tomorrow before giving the United States Congress a chance to have their say on what this traitor has done…….he figures if the UN approves it ( and they surely will), then the US Congress will have nothing to disapprove ….he’s a tricky little bastard !

  26. oldsoldier79

    CITIZENWELLS…at 2:58 pm

    There is something glaring missing in your presentation…
    exactly what does the Unites States get out of this failed nuke deal?

    Let me answer and save you the time…..N O TH IN G …..but more long range problems…and a nation called ISRAEL in grave peril…..

  27. oldsoldier79

    no comments necessary….

  28. oldsoldier79

    JUDGE NOT…LEST YE BE JUDGED…..

    OK…you may judge me …and I will judge them !

  29. bob strauss

    Cuba will be another big plus for Putin and Russia.

  30. oldsoldier79

    LETS TALK ABOUT THE RELIGION OF PEACE….

    In the “Audacity of Hope” Obama writes “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

    In the history of this country when have you ever heard a president say he stands with any religion.
    Even Bill Clinton convinced us he stood with this country. We now have a president who stands with what some call a cult and others call Islam.

    We can not have a president putting anything before our country especially Islam.

    Some Muslims claim the root word of Islam is “al-salaam” which is “peace” in Arabic. An Arabic word only has one root. The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.”

    The Quran not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also commands them to subdue people of other religions until they submit to Islamic rule.

    If Obama stands with Islam he considers every American who is not Muslim to be an Infidel. Maybe that explains the arrogance and complete disregard for this county and its Constitution. Why hasn’t he or the Muslim Brotherhood stood up to the pedophiles of ISIS? Could it be their prophet Muhammad has been accused of being a pedophile?

    Let’s talk about this religion of peace when it comes to women. Quran 4:34 states that you can beat your slaves and beat your wife.

    I don’t think Obama could handle that one because my bets would be on Michelle. Pay Per View would pay good money to see that ass whooping.

    One of the many disturbing things about the Quran is 65:4, which states you can rape, marry, and divorce pre-pubescent girls. If Obama is in love with the Quran does this mean he doesn’t have a problem with the pedophiles of his faith?

    There is no need in trying to get an honest answer because the Quran 16:106 has instructed him to lie to promote Islam.

    Quran 9:111 instructs him and every Muslim to kill non-Muslims to receive their 72 virgins in Hell. Did the hijackers of 9-11 pick this date because of the numbers to that verse?

    We had better remove this traitor from office before they settle on another date inspired by the Quran.

    God bless each and everyone of you, and may He forever bless His World…

    Semper Fi, Shep

    Read more at http://dcgazette.com/islam-religion-peace-quran-obama-reading/

  31. oldsoldier79

    GOOD QUESTION…… !!!

  32. oldsoldier79

    THIS CAME DIRECTLY FROM THE HORSE’S A*S….

    The Executive Committee of the National Democratic Committee announced today that starting in January 2015, the organization would be known as the Socialist Democratic Committee.

    Spokesperson and Chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Shultz said, “this was a change that has been a long time in the making.We have been considering changing the name to better reflect our goals and show solidarity with our brothers in Europe and it seemed like the time was right to implement the change.”

    It is felt that the name change will make younger voters and illegals feel more at home and less confused about party affiliation.

    For many years the term Socialist, had a negative “feel” to it because of the failed Soviet Union, but now polls show that most voters are young enough that they don’t remember what the Soviet Union was. As for Illegals, many of them will vote and most come from countries where the term is looked on as something good, not evil.

    “We want to reeducate young people as to what the name really stands for, Free Food, Health Care, Phones, and Education.

    Of course free housing and transportation are every ones right. We don’t want people to think that they have to work to have a good life.

    The Constitution mandates that we all have a right to be happy and should not have to do anything that infringes on that right.” Ms. Wasserman Shultz said.

    Read more at http://universalfreepress.com/name-change-is-in-the-offing-for-democrat-party/

  33. oldsailor83

    oldsoldier79……..
    ……When I think about the five families that will NEVER again be the same my gut wrenches, and I want to scream in anger. Tiny children were left without fathers, and families were destroyed. To compound this we have people in law enforcement who are themselves involved in assisting the leaders of sanctuary cities in PROTECTING CONVICTED FELONS, and thus allowing them to MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE AT WILL, after which the VERY SAME leaders then have the AUDACITY to refuse to change. To this end it is time for those SO CALLED LEADERS THEMSELVES to enjoy some lengthy SLAMMER VACATIONS……….and the BUCK should be pursued no matter HOW HIGH IT RISES, before it stops. The person or agency where the BUCK stops needs to be HELD FULLY ACCOUNTABLE.

  34. oldsailor83

    oldsoldier79…….
    ……you only need to look at the totally MORONIC EXPRESSIONS on the faces of those standing to Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Schultz’s immediate RIGHT, and the male MORON standing to her immediate left, then look at her face, and you will see THREE TWISTED A$$HOLES, who live in LA LA land, which their faces confirm.

  35. oldsailor83

    ……….the level of anguish which I am feeling I pray that 300 million other Americans are also feeling. First a STINKING WETBACK murders an innocent person. then a STINKING SLIMEY GOATLOVER MURDERS 5 MORE PEOPLE……….and AMERICA just goes OHHHHHHHH WELLLLLLLLLL.!
    bye bye………………have a great evening.

  36. citizenwells

    I agree with Trump.
    Just being captured does not make one a hero. In some cases it means you are careless or incompetent.
    Many heroes die in action.
    I am reminded of those young men who stormed the beaches of Normandy.
    The term “hero” is tossed about too lightly and has lost much of its meaning.

  37. oldsoldier79

    I AGREE with CITIZENWELLS…..who AGREES with TRUMP…….

    If the real truth were ever told about McCains conduct in the Hanoi Hilton, he would be wearing a different title…..

    I also agree that the word ‘hero’ is tossed around too lightly…when that happens, the word has little meaning, other than ‘window dressing’.

  38. HELP!!!!

    I got a friend request from a Catherine Carberry from Face Book. I excepted and this morning I woke up and low and behold there was pictures of Face Book Mark. Anyway..I went to this ladies FB page and it said she worked the corporate office of Face Book. OK…She came on the part where you respond with your friends and introduced herself and ask if I heard about the promotional that Mark has going. I said no. Well the pictures shows this lady and man with the lady popping a bottle of champaine holding a check. I was selected and I was to wait on her to respond with a code number. dah…dah…dah It has been an hour now and nothing! Can some scam pretend to be Face Book? Has any one heard of a promotional thing with face book. I am waiting on a return call from my Lt. Gov.
    How do you do a screen save before they delete it?????

  39. oldsoldier79

    LINUS GOT IT RIGHT …!!!

  40. McCain’s hero past is being linked on several Face book pages. Even on McCain’s FB.. Cruz ..and Huckabees FB The word is spreading but Fox Crap news is promoting McCain!

  41. oldsoldier79

    SPEAKING OF “HERO’S” AND COURAGE……

    As an American, I accept nothing less……

  42. oldsoldier79

    p.s.
    When we start calling ‘faggots’ hero’s and praise them for their courage….then it’s time for a mental timeout.

  43. oldsoldier79

    They are all coming out of the woodwork now….

    Like fleas, flies….and roaches….!

  44. oldsoldier79

    sorry I will try to find it….

  45. oldsoldier79

    This is not bravery……..

    It’ stupidity !!!!

    Also my wife just told me that Jenner didn’t go all the way with the conversion….he still has his dilly-whacker !!!!

    Now if he wants to be brave…let him cut that off too!!!

  46. I just got off of the phone with our Lt. Governor…(Jonah) this may interest you…A Willis Jones and all he wanted me to do was call my police department and I said what is your office for. He got rude and called me going off! What?
    I went to FB blog and people were complaining that FB was stealing their information. Please be careful people. Katherine Carberry is the bitch who tricked me…look her up! This is very scary! She started out by asking me how my family was.
    How do you BLOCK someone not just unfriend.

  47. oldsoldier79

    The world is full of beauty….

    You just have to do is reach out and find it like this little girl did…..

  48. oldsailor83

    Ginger………
    If I was in your place I would get rid of FACEBOOK ITSELF. I have heard of many scams being worked against people via FACEBOOK.

  49. oldsailor83

    oldsoldier79…..
    ………the little girl certainly got her money’s worth. Beethoven’s Odes of Joy is one of my favorites.

  50. oldsoldier79

    AS I SAID……

    As I said would happen last week ……Kerry put Obama put his flawed NUKE deal with Iran before the UN Security Council today……

    As I said would happen last week …..the UN Security Council approved that flawed deal with NO opposing votes……

    As I said would happen last week….. the Traitor, John Kerry, came out of the UN Security Council meeting and said there was NO reason to put the treaty before the US Congress because the UN Council has spoken.

    As I said would happen last week….. We DO NOT have a Constitutional Republic any more. We have a foreign usurper being supported by a hostile United Nations where most of the socialist/communist/terrorist nations side with the usurper on everything…..as long as America comes out on the losing end of the stick !

    Now I ask……why do we need a useless Congress that does not even have the “intestinal fortitude” ( or balls) to stand up to this ‘rape of America’ by the whole world?

    If this flawed deal, ( which Citizenwells has proven to be so) is allowed to stand by our worthless, inept, erectile-malfunctioning Congress,

    First, we can all kiss Israel goodbye ( as a starter), then next will come Saudi Arabia ( because they are the wrong type of Muslim terrorist ), then one bright morning, we will wake up in America and hear the town alarm systems telling us to take cover……because of incoming rockets with Nuclear Warheads on them !

    Then it will be too damn late to point the finger at the Muslim Usurper the voting idiots and stupid democtats put into power in America…….

  51. oldsoldier79

    oldsailor83….

    Yes …wasn’t that absolutely wonderful !….

  52. I just finished watching Ann Coulter discussing her new book, “Adios America”. If you have an hour to spare, its well worth your time.

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?327082-1/book-discussion-adios-america

  53. citizenwells

    Frank Luntz on Hannity saying why people like Trump.
    He says what he thinks.
    i.e. not politically correct.
    This is exactly what we need.

  54. oldsoldier79

    I COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER MYSELF……

  55. oldsoldier79

    The milk toast main stream media ask;

    “Should Donald Trump Apologize to Senator John McCain?”

    I answer;…….”HELL NO”….any more stupid questions?

  56. oldsoldier79

    OBAMA won’t lower the United States flag for 6 dead servicemen who were killed on American soil by an Islamic terrorist, but he wants to make that day a legal holiday for American Muslims……what’s wrong with this picture?
    IMG_7836_resized.jpg.CROP.promovar-mediumlarge

    It’s been four days since an Islamic terrorist killed five of our servicemen, and Obama has still not yet ordered the American flag to be flown at half staff.

    Last Thursday, July 16th, four Marines and one sailor were killed in a cowardly attack by a radical Islamist. Obama spoke about the killings soon after, though he refused to call it terrorism. The world waited to see if Obama would lower the flag as he did when Nelson Mandela died, but the American flag did not move. Instead, Obama sent out a tweet showing how much he supported making that day, the day Ramadan ends, a National Muslim holiday.

    NDTV reports:

    “President Barack Obama on Thursday wished Muslims in America and around the world “Eid Mubarak!” or a blessed Eid, praising efforts to recognize the end of Ramadan as a holiday.

    “The holiday is a reminder to every American of the importance of respecting those of all faiths and beliefs,” he said in a statement that also hailed New York City’s decision to add Eid to the official school calendar.

    That, he said, was “an acknowledgement of the great diversity and inclusiveness that adds to the richness of our nation.”

    Mayor Bill de Blasio in March made New York the first major city in America to mark the end of Ramadan and the end of the pilgrimage to Mecca as a school holiday.”

    In the Tweet, which can be seen HERE, Obama praised treating Eid the same way our children treat Christmas or Hanukkah.

    This is the mindset of our president when our servicemen were just slain on American soil. Obama went to great lengths to make sure the world saw the White House lit with rainbow lights when the Supreme court legalized gay marriage, but he can’t make a time-honored gesture for our military?

  57. oldsoldier79

    POOR KID….HE MUST HAVE FELT REAL TRAMATIZED !!!

    This week’s female high school teacher busted for allegedly having sex with and exchanging raunchy nude photos with a male student is Megan Clough

    Clough, 29, is a special education teacher at Mountain View High School in rural Susquehanna County, Pa., reports local ABC affiliate WNEP-TV.

    Police say Clough had sex with an unidentified 18-year-old student and also sent the requisite nude Snapchat photos to him as part of the whirlwind romance.

    Snapchat is a popular social media app which is supposed to send photos to recipients chosen by the sender and then, after a specified amount of time, dissolve the photos into the Internet ether.
    ——————————————————————————————-wHWhy in the hell didn’t we have teachers like this when I went to school ?…..I would never have skipped her phys ed classes….and if i had played my cards just right, I might have hit the JACKPOT !!!!!

    That has always been my problem….” a day late and a dollar short”.

  58. citizenwells

    “Trump Lead Surges In Polls, Again”

    “24% of Republicans prefer Trump (up from 18% last week)”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-20/trump-lead-surges-polls-again

  59. oldsoldier79

    The SONGBIRD…..The real story of John McCain-a Songbird

    Again the question today: Should Donald Trump apologize to John ( the Songbird ) McCain?

    The answer has not changed: Hell NO, NEVER

    Every American should watch this short 10 minute video of McCain and Kerry’s conduct then ask themselves the same question.

  60. oldsoldier79

    I BET YOU DIDN’T KNOW THIS ABOUT “HOT-DOG” McCAIN……

    It’s all about an accident that involves McCain aboard the USS Forrstal, just 3 months before he was shot down in North Vietnam……if true, then John McCain was one of the best soldiers North Vietnam had !


    BY WAYNE MADSEN/WAYNE MADSEN REPORT

    The Navy released John McCain’s military record after a Freedom of Information Act request from the Associated Press.

    The record is packed with information on McCain’s medals and commendations but little else.

    The one thing that the McCain campaign does not want to see released is the record of McCain’s antics on board the USS Forestal in 1967.

    McCain was personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy. That catastrophe, with 27 dead and over 100 wounded trumps McCain’s record as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam.

    WMR has learned additional details regarding the deadly fire aboard the Navy aircraft carrier, the USS Forrestal, on July 19, 1967 in the Gulf of Tonkin.

    The additional details point to then-Lt. Commander John McCain playing more of a role in triggering the fire and explosions than previously reported.

    On January 16, 2006, WMR reported that according to a US Navy sailor who was aboard the Forrestal on the fateful day of the fire, “McCain and the Forrestal’s skipper, Capt. John K. Beling, were warned about the danger of using M-65 1000-lb. bombs manufactured in 1935, which were deemed too dangerous to use during World War II and, later, on B-52 bombers.

    The fire from the Zuni missle misfire resulted in the heavy 1000 pound bombs being knocked loose from the pylons of McCain’s A-4 aircraft, which were only designed to hold 500-pound bombs.”

    WMR further reported, “The unstable bombs had a 60-second cook-off threshold in a fire situation and this warning was known to both Beling and McCain prior to the disaster.”

    WMR also cited the potential that McCain’s Navy records were used against him by the neo-cons in control of the Pentagon,

    “The neo-cons, who have had five years to examine every file within the Department of Defense, have likely accessed documents that could prove embarrassing to McCain, who was on board the USS Forrestal on July 29, 1967, and whose A-4 Skyhawk was struck by an air-toground Zuni missile that had misfired from an F-4 Phantom.”

    WMR has been informed that crewmen aboard the Forrestal have provided additional information about the Forrestal incident.

    It is believed by many crewmen and those who have investigated the case that McCain deliberately “WET-STARTED” his A-4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4. “Wet-starts”, done either deliberately, or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.

    In McCain’s case, the “wet-start” apparently “cooked off” and launched the Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that touched off the explosions and massive fire.

    The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration. “Wet starting” was apparently a common practice among young “HOT-DOG” pilots.

    AFTER THE ACCIDENT, McCain was quickly transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred).

    Three months later, McCain was shot down over North Vietnam on October 26, 1967.
    ———————————————————————————————–
    Now you know why John (Hot-Dog) McCain doesn’t want anyone snooping around his military records !!!!!!!!

    I doubt very seriously that he would have been transfer off the USS Forrestal had he not been admiral John McCain’s son. I also think he would have been under a very serious investigation for misconduct and possibly more serious charges, had he not been “well connected”…….

    So the real question is:…Exactly who, and what was John (Hot-Dog) McCain?

    Hero or Showoff?

  61. oldsoldier79

    NO COMMENTS NECESSARY…..

  62. oldsoldier79

    sorry about that…it was a good one !

  63. oldsailor83

    oldsoldier79……..
    ……..guess what the BASTARD is up to NOW……..
    Trying to find ways to prevent SENIOR CITIZENS from PURCHASING FIREARMS. I guess this will be accepted with out even a WIMPER. Now we see exactly what is happening now , and what will soon be happening. I seriously doubt that ANYBODY will do anything.

  64. ……..McCain made the first blow in the fight between him and Trump. McCain verbally implied that Trump’s campaign is a “circus side show”,so in effect he ASKED FOR what Trump said. Since when does Trump have to apologise to anybody………Rick Perry is “FULL OF SHI#”………..in reality Perry is one of the people who thinks up is down, and would have Trump LIE in every breath. Trump HAS THE RIGHT to say anything he wishes. This is in the Bill of Rights. To hell with what Perry thinks, or doesn’t like.

  65. TO RICK PERRY………
    If the heat in the kitchen is too much for you then it is time for you to get out of the kitchen.

  66. ………..same goes for McCain.

  67. HEY DONALD………
    ……….I KNOW HOW TO MAKE KING SIZE BROOMS. PERHAPS YOU WILL WANT A FEW OF THEM AS YOU CLEAN OUR HOUSE AT DC………… THEY ARE DESIGNED FOR DUAL PURPOSE SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO BE USED TO ADMINISTER WHOOP A$$ WHEN POLITICAL OPPPONENTS GET A LITTLE TESTY. I WILL SEND THEM TOO YOU FREE OF CHARGE. THEY ARE PROTOTYPES SO WE NEED SOME FIELD TESTING. ACTUALLY THEY ARE 24″ PUSH BROOMS,AND YOU ONLY NEED TO LOOSEN THE MAIN SCREW AND TURN THE BRUSH PARALLEL WITH THE HANDLE AND RETIGHTENED. ONLY TAKES A FEW SECONDS……AND VOILA YOU HAVE A WHOOP ASS INSTRUMENT. BRUSH IS ACTUALLY A 24″ PIECE OF 2X4, AND WEIGHS ABOUT 5 LB. WHEN SWUNG AT A PERPETRATOR IT CAN PUT A VERY LARGE DENT IN THE BASTARD’S HEAD. GOOD LUCK WITH THE ENDURANCE, AND RELIABILITY TESTS.

  68. MR.TRUMP…………. I WILL INCLUDE A FIELD TEST ALALYSIS FORM. HOPEFULLY YOU WILL SEE FIT TO THOROUGHLY TEST MY PRODUCT IN BOTH CONFIGURATIONS EARLY ON. YOU WILL NOTICE THE LARGE DIAMETER OF THE HANDLE. THIS WAS PROVIDED SO THAT HUGE PILES OF “GARBAGE” CAN BE EASILY PUSHED OUT THE DOOR WITHOUT BREAKING THE HANDLE OF THE BROOM.

  69. Ginger………
    Limbaugh said exactly what I would have said, He is absolutely right in his analysis. All the whining MORONS don’t have a clue what Trump is made of, and they think that their slimey little lies, and insinuations will effect him. har har Hell will freeze over before the LIBERAL SLIME can even slow him down. He is one of the FEW remaining SELF MADE MEN, and the LIBERAL LEFT still have that to learn. I am sure that Trump will happily teach it to them…………THE HARD WAY!

  70. Trump doesn’t have to answer to anybody. He is within his rights to say, and think what he chooses. He is a self made man, and he will behave as such. You can look for him to start tightening the screws on various people within our so called government, and each tightening will be only enough for the looney left to feel the point of the SCREW. I have a gut feeling that he will soon have a response for Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Schultz, who also saw fit to add her expletives against him. Of course what else except expletives would you expect to emanate from the mouth of such a twisted person. Trumps response might not be repeatable, or even printable.

  71. If McCain was truly intent upon helping our veterans he would have LONG AGO visited each and every one of the vets hospitals, and personally led a fight to permanently remove all the people who think they should have big wages to do NOTHING, but SIT ON THEIR DUFFS. He would have taken a PERSONAL HAND in such a cleanout,………but alas the CLEANOUT HAS YET TO HAPPEN……….AND PROBABLY WON’T HAPPEN AS LONG AS PEOPLE LIKE MCCAIN ARE AT THE HELM.

  72. bye bye……….. have a great day!

  73. oldsoldier79

    The CALIFORNIA FRUIT & NUT COMPANY is heard from again….

    She closes her pathetic performance by saying,

    “Now here’s the point. The point is that you have a moderate, elected government (IRAN) that wants to make a change. We’ll see if this is enough to induce that change.”

    Way to thrown the nuclear dice, and hope for the best, Senator.

    Read more at http://universalfreepress.com/naive-neville-feinstein-iran-is-a-moderate-elected-govt-that-wants-to-make-a-change-well-see-what-happens/
    ———————————————————————————————-
    WRONG…… but Your RIGHT on one point Senator…..there will be change !

    When IRAN blows the whole @#*%ing world up..that will be change !!!!!

  74. bob strauss

  75. Turn the tv on Fox…Shehard Smith said Barrys buddy just got good news from the appeals court over turned some of the convictions of Balagojevichs

  76. Mr. Wells…You said this would happen 🙂

  77. OMG…Bob Strauss I wondered what happened to Judge Napolitano. I am done with Fox!!! Even Hannity was bashing Mr. Trump! I am done with watching cable news and stick with the internet!

  78. oldsailor83….I think Perry knows he will never get more then the 3% he has now so he has become the republican parties ‘paid whore’

  79. oldsailor83

    AND NOW……….
    We can see just how insane Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz,Queer really is. Such a statement could only come from the mouth of a COMPLETE LUNATIC.

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