Families of Charleston church shooting reveal true Christianity, Forgiveness in the midst of personal tragedy, ISIS and watered down feel good or phony “Christians” take note, God works in mysterious ways

Families of Charleston church shooting reveal true Christianity, Forgiveness in the midst of personal tragedy, ISIS and watered down feel good or phony “Christians” take note, God works in mysterious ways

“And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.”…Jesus, John 8:32

“Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.”…First Corinthians 1:25

 

 

The family members and church family members of the Charleston, SC church shooting have done more to reveal the true meaning of Christianity in a few days than most folks ever do.

Their family members and friends have been killed and yet they immediately forgave the assassin.

I am not sure I could do so that quickly.

What a message to this country and the world.

God bless them and may their healing be complete.

From CNN June 19, 2015.

“Dylann Roof heard words of forgiveness from families of some of the nine people he’s accused of killing.”

“Wearing a striped inmate jumpsuit, the 21-year-old appeared Friday afternoon by video feed at a bond hearing in Charleston, South Carolina. He stood motionless while listening to the anguished words of relatives of victims he gunned down Wednesday night at a Bible study at the historic Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church.

“I will never be able to hold her again, but I forgive you,” a daughter of Ethel Lance said. “And have mercy on your soul. You hurt me. You hurt a lot of people but God forgives you, and I forgive you.”

Felicia Sanders — mother of victim Tywanza Sanders and a survivor of the church shooting herself — said that “every fiber in my body hurts, and I will never be the same.”

“As we said in the Bible study, we enjoyed you,” she said of Roof. “But may God have mercy on you.””

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-church-shooting-main/

From ABC News June 20, 2015.

“Relatives of the nine people shot down during a Bible study session inside their historic black church confronted the 21-year-old suspect Friday during his initial hearing. They described their pain and anger, but also spoke of love.

“I forgive you, my family forgives you,” said Anthony Thompson, whose relative Myra Thompson was killed. “We would like you to take this opportunity to repent. … Do that and you’ll be better off than you are right now.””

“The families are determined not to respond in kind, said Alana Simmons, who lost her grandfather, the Rev. Daniel Simmons.

“Although my grandfather and the other victims died at the hands of hate, this is proof — everyone’s plea for your soul is proof they lived in love and their legacies will live in love, so hate won’t win,” she said. “And I just want to thank the court for making sure that hate doesn’t win.””

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/gunman-feared-blacks-taking-world-31881849

To ISIS and the world.

This is Christianity.

 

 

 

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48 responses to “Families of Charleston church shooting reveal true Christianity, Forgiveness in the midst of personal tragedy, ISIS and watered down feel good or phony “Christians” take note, God works in mysterious ways

  1. citizenwells

    Demagogues take note.

  2. citizenwells

    “”For me, I’m a work in progress and I acknowledge that I’m very angry,” said Bethane Middleton-Brown, who appeared in court on behalf of her sister, the Rev. DePayne Middleton Doctor. “We have no room for hate. We have to forgive. I pray God on your soul. And I also thank God I won’t be around when your judgment day comes with him.””

    http://www.startribune.com/gunman-feared-blacks-were-taking-over-the-world/308369381/

  3. citizenwells

    “Carl Icahn: Donald Trump Is Completely Correct That “We Are In A Bubble Like You’ve Never Seen Before””

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/carl-icahn-trump-completely-correct-we-are-bubble-youve-never-seen

  4. oldsailor83

    CW…..
    I personally believe that the survivors of the Charleston insanity were/and ARE perfect examples of Christians. I feel their grief,and pray with them.

  5. oldsailor83

    We have an Islamic radical for a POTUS, but at least the “HAIRCUT” is an NBC.

  6. oldsailor83

    ……….m + i = m Moron plus intelligence equals MORON……..I + m = im
    ….intelligence plus moron equals intelligent MORON…………it is what we learn after we know it all that counts.

  7. oldsailor83

    ………and at least “HAIRCUT”has the golf balls to call a spade a spade publically……….and doesn’t even cringe, or use a facial expression in so doing. Three cheers for ‘HAIRCUT”.

  8. citizenwells

    BTW.
    There are a lot of good people in Kings Mountain.
    I have a lot of family there and was there last Sunday for a family reunion.

    http://www.shelbystar.com/news/local/breaking-tip-from-kings-mountain-florists-led-to-charleston-shooting-suspect-s-arrest-1.492375

  9. oldsailor83

    CW…….

    Is Kings Mountain a suburb of Charleston? I was at the Navy Shipyard in Charleston way back in the 1950s. We stopped there for some repairs to one of our propeller shafts. We were there about a week and a half. We left there and headed straight for Panama Canal.
    As I remember the few people (yard workers) I met during the time we were there seemed to be pretty decent folks. A yard worker even made a repair to a malfunctioning sea water valve for us. He didn’t have to, it wasn’t even part of the scheduled repairs. But while the ship was drydocked was the perfect time for the valve repair as well. It was one of two scoop injection valves on the skin of the ship near the keel. Often it would stick and not open when it should. When he was finished with it the valve functioned exactly as it was supposed to thereafter. We rewarded him with a 20 lb tin of Navy coffee. “COMESHAWED OF COURSE!” That is sometimes how things were done at Navy yards in those days. Sort of “OFF THE CUFF” IF YOU WILL, but it got results.

  10. oldsoldier79

    oldsailor83….
    Kings Mountain is a suburb of Shelby…Shelby is a suburb of Gastonia…. Gastonia is a suburb of Charlotte…….

  11. oldsoldier79

    QUESTION:

    or both ?

  12. oldsailor83

    oldsoldier79……..
    ………thanks for the info. At least I now know where Kings Mountain is. Hell I didn’t even have the right state………har har

  13. bob strauss

    Bill Nye the Science-Is-Settled Guy vs. Facts
    By William Sullivan

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/06/bill_nye_the_scienceissettled_guy_vs_facts.html#ixzz3ddpYTMiI
    Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

  14. bob strauss

    Video: Fox News Host; Speaking Of Identity Theft; Obama Doesn’t Have A Birth Certificate

    Read more at http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/06/video-fox-news-host-speaking-of.html#XODXx7m6th41jzwu.99

  15. bob strauss

    We see what Obama does yet ‘none dare call it treason’
    by LT. COLONEL JAMES G. ZUMWALT, USMC (RET)

    Suffering from a sense of entitlement, we reject the religion that originally put us on the path to abundance in favor of a religion centering on self.

    Read more: Family Security Matters http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/#ixzz3dg5UYHAg
    Under Creative Commons License: Attribution

  16. bob strauss

    Dangerous illegal immigrants – Obama administration releasing 30,000 criminals each year

    Read more: Family Security Matters http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/#ixzz3dg605Gwl
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  17. bob strauss

    The Clinton Record on Libya
    by KENNETH R. TIMMERMAN

    In short, without Mrs. Clinton’s vigorous intervention, Qadhafi would still be in power, Libya would still be a country, and the jihadis who now own the place would be toast.

    Read more: Family Security Matters http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/#ixzz3dg6sgY9W
    Under Creative Commons License: Attribution

  18. bob strauss

    Now we know what the usurper is up to with global warming lies and phony trade agreements!

    ***************************

    Twin Peaks – Twin Lies
    by PAUL DRIESSEN, TOM TAMARKIN
    June 18, 2015

    A recent NOAA article is just what Doctor Doom ordered. It claims the 18-year “hiatus” in rising planetary temperatures isn’t really happening. (The “pause” followed a 20-year modest temperature increase, which followed a prolonged cooling period.) The article states:

    “Here we present an updated global surface temperature analysis that reveals that global trends are higher than reported by the IPCC, especially in recent decades, and that the central estimate for the rate of warming during the first 15 years of the 21st century is at least as great as the last half of the 20th century. These results do not support the notion of a ‘slowdown’ in the increase of global surface temperature.”

    Published in Science magazine to ensure extensive news coverage before critics could expose its flaws, the report was indeed featured prominently in the national print, television, radio and electronic media.

    It’s part of the twin peaks thesis: Peaking carbon dioxide levels will cause peaking temperatures, which will lead to catastrophic climate and weather. Unfortunately for alarmists, the chaos isn’t happening.

    No category 3-5 hurricane has hit the United States for a record 9-1/2 years. Tornadoes, droughts, polar bears, polar ice, sea levels and wildfires are all in line with (or improvements on) historic patterns and trends. The Sahel is green again, thanks to that extra CO2. And the newly invented disasters they want to attribute to fossil fuel-driven climate change – allergies, asthma, Islamic State and Boko Haram – don’t even pass the laugh test.

    The NOAA report appears to have been another salvo in the White House’s attempt to regain the offensive, ahead of the Heartland Institute’s Tenth International Climate Conference. However, a growing number of prominent analysts have uncovered serious biases, errors and questions in the report.

    Climatologists Pat Michaels, Dick Lindzen, and Chip Knappenberger point out that the NOAA team adjusted sea-surface temperature (SST) data from buoys upward by 0.12 degrees Celsius, to make them “homogenous” with lengthier records from engine intake systems in ships. However, engine intake data are “clearly contaminated by heat conduction” from the ships, and the data were never intended for scientific use – whereas the global buoy network was designed for environmental monitoring.

    So why not adjust the ship data downward, to “homogenize” them with buoy data, and account for the contamination? Perhaps because, as Georgia Tech climatologist Judith Curry observed, this latest NOAA analysis “will be regarded as politically useful for the Obama administration.” However, it will not be “particularly useful” for improving our understanding of what is happening in Earth’s climate system.

    Dr. Curry and the previously mentioned scientists also note that the buoy network has covered an increasingly wide area over the past couple decades, collecting high quality data. So again, why did NOAA resort to shipboard data? The ARGO buoys and satellite network (both omitted in this new analysis) do not show a warming trend – whereas the NOAA methodology injects a clear warming trend.

    Canadian economist and statistical expert Ross McKitrick also analyzed the NOAA approach. He concluded that it wipes out the global warming hiatus that eight other studies have found. Its adjustments to SST records for 1998-2000 had an especially large effect, he says. Dr. McKitrick also recaps the problems scientists have with trying to create consistent temperature records from the multiple measurement methods employed over the centuries.

    Theologian, ethicist and climate analyst Calvin Beisner provides an excellent summary of all these and other critiques of the deceptive NOAA paper.

    It is also important to note that, in reality, NOAA is quibbling about hundredths of a degree – essentially the margin of error. On that basis it rejects multiple studies that found planetary warming has stopped.

    Britain’s Global Warming Policy Forum succinctly concludes: “This is a highly speculative and slight paper that produces a statistically marginal result by cherry-picking time intervals, resulting in a global temperature graph that is at odds with those produced by the UK Met Office and NASA,” as well as by other exhaustive data monitoring reports over the past four decades.

    The vitally important bottom line is simple.

    The central issue in this ongoing debate is not whether Planet Earth is warming. The issue is: How much is it warming? How much of the warming and other climate changes are due to mankind’s use of fossil fuels and emission of greenhouse gases – and how much are due to the same powerful natural forces that have driven climate and weather fluctuations throughout Earth and human history? And will any changes be short-term or long-term … and good, bad, neutral or catastrophic?

    At this time, there is no scientific evidence – based on actual observations and measurements of temperatures and weather events – that humans are altering the climate to a significant or dangerous degree. Computer models, political statements and hypothetical cataclysms cannot and must not substitute for that absence of actual evidence, especially when the consequences would be so dire for so many. In fact, even the “record high” global average temperature of 2014 was concocted and a margin of error.

    Simply put, the danger is not climate change – which will always be with us. The danger is energy restrictions imposed in the name of controlling Earth’s perpetually fickle climate.

    Moreover, the IPCC’s top climate official says the UN’s unelected bureaucrats are undertaking “probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the [global capitalist] economic development model.” Another IPCC director says, “Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection. The next world climate summit is actually an economy summit, during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated.”;

    That summit could give government officials and environmental activists the power to eliminate fossil fuels, control businesses and entire economies, and tell families what living standards they will be permitted to enjoy – with no accountability for the damage that will result from their actions.

    For developed nations, surrendering to the climate crisis industry would result in fossil fuel restrictions that kill jobs, reduce living standards, health, welfare and life spans – and put ideologically driven government bureaucrats in control of everything people make, grow, ship, eat and do.

    For poor countries, implementing policies to protect energy-deprived masses from computer-generated manmade climate disasters decades from now would perpetuate poverty and diseases that kill them tomorrow. Denying people their basic rights to have affordable, reliable energy, rise up out of poverty, and enjoy modern technologies and living standards would be immoral – a crime against humanity.

    Countries, communities, companies and citizens need to challenge and resist these immoral, harmful, tyrannical, lethal and racist EPA, IPCC, UN and EU decrees. Otherwise, the steady technological, economic, health and human progress of the past 150 years will come to a painful, grinding halt – sacrificed in the name of an illusory and fabricated climate crisis.

    Paul Driessen is senior policy advisor for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org) and author of Eco-Imperialism: Green power – Black death.

    Read more: Family Security Matters http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/twin-peaks-twin-lies?f=must_reads#ixzz3dgDhKv29
    Under Creative Commons License: Attribution

  19. citizenwells

    Happy Father’s Day!

  20. Happy Papa’s day to all my father friends here at CW.

    You are the best!!!!

  21. Interested Bystander

    CW, I need some help.

    Can someone here give me some advice on how to deal with a public nuisance?

    To make a long story short, our town passed an ordinance that states fireworks can not be shot off in 3 or more different hours in a 24 hour period, and not more than 3 days in a 24 hour period (different sub paragraphs)`.

    For example, he’ll shoot one off at 5pm, maybe two at 7pm and two or three at 10:45pm (it’s illegal after 11pm) I’m talking big boomers that shake my house. Not firecrackers. He’s done it the last 3 out of 4 days, that I will testify too, and if he does it yet today, 4 out of 5 days)

    The police are refusing to cite him when we report him violating the ordinance. They tell us that they have to see him doing it for him to be in violation.

    I have told the police that I am willing to sign an affidavit stating what I have witnessed, and will promise to appear at a hearing.

    Besides cameras, any suggestions? Cameras are on the agenda just so you know.

    Please help me.

  22. Bob Strauss……..
    and you can rest assured that the usurper will NEVER be outed by Americas court systems…….they are his EMPLOYEES, and he pays them WELL. Everything that is going on now will continue ,and/or get much much worse………..There is, and has been only one option , and I seriously doubt that ANYBODY in America has the BALLS to pursue it because he/she will be alone, and will not survive as such. Instead they are choosing to be slaughtered by the thousands each day as they,do their DRUGS, WATCH THEIR PORN, AND DO DEVIANT SEX ETC.. I say to them “BE SURE YOU ENJOY YOUR LAST DAYS ON EARTH……if the boogy man don’t get you…………the diseases you contract probably WILL. Cases in point Liberace, and Rock Hudson just to name two practitioners. All BASTARDS who are practitioners of deviant sex will eventually die horrible deaths at relatively young ages. Their last breaths will be from the stinking air caused by their own bodies as it slowly dies from within. Such diseases are GOD’S rewards for their perverted acts. Our basic design includes retribution. Our creator left nothing out.

  23. oldsailor83

    IB
    Here in Fort Wayne we have almost the same law and times allowed. If the fireworks are fired within the specified time frame, he/she is legal in that aspect, but there are OTHER ASPECTS. You can pay a small fee , and take the person to COURT on grounds that the noise generated is beyond the parameters set down in the community’s noise ordnances, and the overhead explosions are creating a hazard to yours, and your family’s hearing, and general well being, along with causing a general discomfort even inside of your home. Your complaint should be worded to address health concerns,which are being SPECIFICALLY CAUSED by the noise and pressure waves generated by the OVERHEAD EXPLOSIONS, which exceed the parameters of the noise ordnances. You must be able to PROVE that such explosions are a nuisance and or,a potential threat to the health of all living in your house. If you have neighbors who are equally affected I would suggest obtaining a written and notorised statement from them as well. In general the more signatures that you can get the better are your chances during adjudication. Hope that helps. Do you have a city advocate? If so I would first send certified (paid witness) copies of your complaint to the city advocate, This serves several purposes one of which is being on record of having done so…….very useful at a later date,if you should be forced to file a complaint with the small claims court. Keep exacting records of the explosions,an details involved. Every word is IMPORTANT, but don’t go into needless detail.Also try to get sound level readings. If you can find a NOISE LEVEL METER, to rent,or borrow it might be helpful if you can catch one of the explosions and register the DECIBELS generated. Won’t be very EASY,but is doable. Also have the noise level certified as well. If it is being done as a form of harassment, then you will need to include that in your complaint. If you incur substantial cost in healthcare, and general costs arising specifically as a result of the objectionable activity you are within your rights to ask for monetary relief as well. Most small claims courts go up to $15,000.00. Just food for thought! but whatever you do try the ADVOCATE first. I would obtain a print out of the fireworks laws as well as the NOISE LAWs of your city. As I recall you are not in INDY proper.

  24. oldsailor83

    CW………will you send IB my email? There is some stuff that he might need but it needs to be on email rather than on the blog. Best regards

  25. bob strauss

    BREAKING: Valerie Jarrett’s $160 MILLION Real Estate & Tax Scandal…
    Posted on June 20, 2015 by DCWhispers

    She is regarded by many as the primary power broker within the Obama White House, a woman who instills both fear and respect among even the top-tier D.C. political players. This past week it was discovered Valerie Jarrett is also one who took a particularly keen interest in avoiding paying more taxes on a cash-cow, $160 million dollar Chicago real estate deal that reportedly closed in 2013 – a deal the Mainstream Media has dutifully neglected to inform the general public about.

    Read more at http://dcwhispers.com/breaking-valerie-jarretts-160-million-real-estate-tax-scandal/#FUzzcPQbKuwHuzVC.99

  26. bob strauss

    The Tea Party

    “I hate that man Obama more than any man I’ve ever met, more than any man who ever lived.”

    OUCH! AND THAT’S JUST THE START!!!

    Hillary Clinton About Obama: ‘You Can’t Trust the Motherf***er’

    Former Newsweek editor and best-selling author Edward Klein’s book about the “Blood Feud” between the Clintons and the Obamas is sure to cause…
    tpnn.com|By TPNN Writing Crew

    http://po.st/6Qz13w

  27. bob strauss

    I was reading this article and became infuriated!

    This is exactly why we have a natural born Citizen clause, for the eligibility for a US president, so we don’t have to listen to this $hit about foreign fathers, and how they influenced the usurper’s Muslim religion.

    I am sick of this crap!

    ****************

    Why Obama’s “Daddy Issues” May Cause World War III
    Written by Ashley Edwardson on June 21, 2015
    Daddy Issues

    Everyone in America and abroad has been scratching their heads over President Obama’s never-ending search for fellowship with leaders of the Muslim world — leaders that often torture and kill their own citizens — men, women and children alike. His incessant near-groveling to foreign Muslim leaders — from that first speech in Cairo, to the mind-boggling full bow to the Saudi King, to the never-ending concessions offered to Iran — has baffled almost everyone.

    Now, former Israeli ambassador to the U.S., Michael Oren, suggests that perhaps the answer is rooted deep in Obama’s childhood. As reported by The Jerusalem Post:

    In a piece Friday in Foreign Policy, Oren – who left Washington on October 1, 2013, and is now a Kulanu MK — charged that Obama was naïve as a peacemaker, had blinders to terrorism, and that his abandonment by both his Muslim father and step-father had something to do with his desire to be accepted by their “co-religionists.”

    In other words, might Obama’s Muslim kowtowing be the result of daddy issues???

    During his first year in office, Obama, Oren argued, offered in essence “a new deal in which the United States would respect popularly chosen Muslim leaders who were authentically rooted in their traditions and willing to engage with the West.”

    The former ambassador said this explained why Obama restored diplomatic ties with Syria, severed by his predecessor George W. Bush after the assassination of former Lebanese president Rafik Hariri; why he engaged in outreach to Libya and Iran; and why he stood by Turkish president Recep Tayyip erdogan and ousted Egyptian president Mohammed Morsi.

    “Erdogan and Morsi were both devout Muslims, democratically elected, and accepting of Obama’s outstretched hand. So, too, was Hassan Rouhani, who became Obama’s partner in seeking a negotiated settlement of the Iranian nuclear dispute,” he wrote.

    Oren attributed this orientation to the intellectual milieu in which Obama grew up, as well as his personal history. “I could imagine how a child raised by a Christian mother might see himself as a natural bridge between her two Muslim husbands. I could also speculate how that child’s abandonment by those men could lead him, many years later, to seek acceptance by their co-religionists.”

    I’ve often wondered myself if President Obama’s view of the Muslim world was colored by his childhood growing up in Indonesia. I agree with Oren; the president’s naiveté in dealing with ISIS and Iran has been surprising. Another example of Obama’s never-ending bending over backwards for Muslims was his ordering NASA Chief Charles Bolden to use the space agency’s resources to, “find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science … and math and engineering.” As if pointing out a fifth-century Muslim engineering accomplishment will stop ISIS’ pillaging, looting and destruction of antiquities! President Obama seems to be in denial of Iran’s current scientific pursuits — the development of nuclear bombs so they can destroy the Devil (us) and the Devil, Jr. (Israel). Despite Bolden’s round-the-clock work since 2009 to find accomplishments to “make the Muslims feel good,” the only thing that’s happened is more violence, more killing and the creation of ISIS.

    Oren echoes the sentiment that Obama’s bootlicking attempts have done little good — and, in fact, are incredibly dangerous.

    The tragedy, he said, was that Obama’s outreach to the Muslim world was rejected.

    “Historians will likely look back at Obama’s policy toward Islam with a combination of curiosity and incredulousness,” he wrote. “While some may credit the president for his good intentions, others might fault him for being naïve and detached from a complex and increasingly lethal reality.”

    Will President Obama’s insistence on fuzzy feelings for Islam’s bad boys really change things — or will it result in our demise? Based on what’s happened so far, I’d say the chances of them “feeling good” about anything but snookering us aren’t too good.

    [Note: this article was written by Ashley Edwardson]

    http://allenbwest.com/2015/06/happy-fathers-day-why-obamas-daddy-issues-may-cause-wwiii/

  28. bob strauss

    Saw my first snip-it of info, about a possible false flag event, that showed a text message about the shooting in Charleston, 20 minutes before it happened.

    It’s scarey when you don’t know what is real, and you can’t trust your government or the news media.

  29. oldsoldier79

    IN DEALING WITH THE CLINTON’S …YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR…..

    NEW YORK – Along with filing financial reports filled with errors and misstatements, “Big Four” accounting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers neglected to verify whether the Clinton Foundation obtained tax-exempt status for its various sub-entities, including its AIDS charity, contends respected Wall Street analyst Charles Ortel.

    As WND has reported, Ortel’s six-month investigation indicates the Clintons have diverted tens millions of dollars donated for charitable purposes to the personal enrichment of themselves and their close associates.

    He says PWC neglected to exercise due diligence in fulfilling its professional responsibilities in conducting even the most basic inquiries required of an honest audit.

    PWC, he says, FAILED TO INQUIRE WHETHER THE CLINTON FOUNDATION HAS APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED DULY ISSUED IRS TAX-EXEMPT DETERMINATIONSfailed for its various sub-entities and activities, including fighting HIV/AIDS globally under the auspices of the Clinton Health Access Initiative Inc., also known as CHAI.

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/clinton-foundation-a-valid-irs-charity/#izGMXTDVQdlOpdkK.99
    ———————————————————————————————-
    So the ‘chickens are coming home to roost’ and all those SUCKERS who gave big bucks to the Clinton Foundation thinking their donations were going to benefit the poor and down trodden around the world are now discovering they have now been “SCREWED IN TWO DIFFERENT POSITIONS”…and someone “pocketed the rest of those millions”….

    My guess is it was Bill Clinton because George Bush was not smart enough to “get in on the take”. I’m not saying Bush ‘wouldn’t have-if he could have’ outsmart Slick Willy, I’m just saying I don’t think he was smart enough to “share in the wealth”.

    As for the 2 ways the ‘Big Dollar Donors’ have been screwed by this Clinton Foundation scam, they are;

    First ….the world now knows as a fact that Bill Clinton and G. W. Bush only built six houses with those millions that were suppose to be for the benefit of the Haitian refugee problem…….this not only makes the donors of those corporations look absolutely ignorant in the eyes of the world but it also gives them a black eye for the ignorance they showed, and it only reflects on the ability of the Clinton’s to weasel them out of “OPM”, (other peoples money, the shareholders of those corporations).

    Secondly…. The big-hearted donors are now finding out the donations they so generously made to this Clinton Scam has not even been recognized as a NON-PROFIT charity…..so it looks like they will still be paying taxes on their give-away money to the Clinton scam…..now that should really piss any shareholders off….shareholders get very angry when the IRS start dipping into their expected profits.

    Sometimes, I wonder about all these “bright young whiz kids” who are making all the decisions in the sky high worldly corporations……

    As Forest Gumpe’s mother would say……”Stupid is as Stupid does”……

    p.s.
    Isn’t it about time Chelsea vacated that 12 million dollar apartment in NYC (you know, the one Momma Clinton says is too small for her girl) which is most likely being supported by the “CLINTON FOUNDATION” money supposedly for the poor and down trodden?

  30. oldsoldier79

    This Clinton Foundation scam is ‘ripe’ for a Federal investigation and jail time for all involved…..including Slick willy, his wife, and little girl.

  31. Judicial Watch, Inc.

    Barack Obama and his corrupt allies in Washington may think using the IRS to harass, audit, and intimidate Obama’s opposition so he can steal an election is no big deal…

    But Judicial Watch is in federal court to remind the Obama gang, which is still abusing the power of the IRS, that the rule of law still applies to them. (SHARE THIS!)

    Federal Judge Orders IRS to Account for “Lost” Emails

    Judicial Watch announced that U.S. District Court ordered the IRS to report to him on the status of the of Lois Lerner’s emails.
    judicialwatch.org

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-federal-judge-orders-irs-to-account-for-lost-emails/

  32. oldsailor83

    OT but important………
    ……….if you want a graphic look at future America just take a long look at GREECE. That country is BROKE,and GUESS WHAT the US HAS BEEN BROKE FOR SOME TIME. The only difference between America and Greece where money is concerned is the fact that nobody will loan Greece any money, but as the debt increases soon they will no longer loan America money either………..even the Chinese have their LIMITS!

  33. bob strauss

    Personal Liberty

    President Obama and our wonderful government call their favorite new bill “TPP” for Trans-Pacific Partnership. But it’s really a bipartisan Ponzi scheme. It should be called “Trans-Pacific Ponzi.” It’s a trillion-dollar rip-off of the American people and American workers. Obama wants “fast track authority” because he wants to put the end of America as we know it on a fast track.

    http://ow.ly/OtZ4D

  34. bob strauss

    Some liberal outfit did a study claiming that nations with “income inequality” have slower growth – thus justifying massive government-led redistribution of wealth. But some basic information refutes the whole thing, and I offer some common sense explaining why that should have been obvious from the start.

    Opportunity and responsibility, not ‘equality’, are the keys to growth
    Studies, rebuttals and basic truth.
    caintv.com

    http://www.caintv.com/opportunity-and-responsibility

  35. bob strauss

  36. bob strauss

    Colorado Sheriff on High Alert!

    VIDEO: Infidel Biker Club Holds Ramadan Pig Roast – Muslims Insulted!
    tpnn.com|By Bill Chandler

    http://po.st/zeIsQp

  37. bob strauss

    Judicial Watch, Inc.

    Why is the Obama administration breaking federal transparency law rather than giving us information about his travels? That we’ve now had to go to federal court to try to get this Secret Service information speaks volumes…

    Our FOIA on Bill Clinton’s Travels with Sex Offender

    Establishment Washington goes through a memory wipe for favored, often leftist, politicians. Bill Clinton’s record of sexual depravity and assault is verboten.

    judicialwatch.org

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/federal-judge-orders-obama-irs-to-court/#anc3

  38. bob strauss

    I don’t know what any of this means, but I am on a quest to find out, I’ll Be Back.
    ******************

    Developing: US Supreme Court Did Not Deny Judy’s Obama Article II Ineligibility Petition
    Read more at http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/06/developing-us-supreme-court-did-not.html#CrQbEiWyQpPURH6V.99

  39. bob strauss

    In Forma Pauperis

    [Latin, In the character or manner of a pauper.] A phrase that indicates the permission given by a court to an indigent to initiate a legal action without having to pay for court fees or costs due to his or her lack of financial resources.

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/06/developing-us-supreme-court-did-not.html#CrQbEiWyQpPURH6V.99

  40. bob strauss

    The SCOTUS just decided Cody Robert Judy has to pay his own legal fees, in order to expose the biggest crime in world history, and the largest threat to national security our country has ever experienced: The usurpation of the presidency of the USA by a foreigner, enemy of America.

    What does this tell us? I can’t put into words how I feel about this without using profanity, so just use your imagination.

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/06/developing-us-supreme-court-did-not.html#CrQbEiWyQpPURH6V.99

  41. Business as usual in our Gov’t’s massive bureaucracy!

    Amtrak Employees Claimed to Work 40 Hours Per Day

    [Calendar Year] CY 2014 timesheet data revealed trends and patterns that indicate potential fraud, waste, and abuse in the reporting of overtime and regular time,” the audit said. (Ya think?)

    http://freebeacon.com/issues/amtrak-employees-claimed-to-work-40-hours-per-day/

    And people wonder why Amtak never makes a profit?

    It seems like every week we learn of another fraud/waste scandal involving a gov’t agency and there is NEVER anyone held to account. Oh but wait, aren’t we broke? How much of a raise did our military get? The military pensions? Veteran’s health care? What about the seniors Social Security COLA?

  42. citizenwells

    bob, thanks for that SCOTUS update.

  43. bob strauss

    citizenwells | June 22, 2015 at 5:50 pm |

    bob, thanks for that SCOTUS update.
    **************
    CW,
    It looks like the case is going forward and papers were ordered to be filed.

    This sounds like progress to me!

  44. bob strauss

  45. I don’t think I personally could be so forgiving. What truly great group of people in Baltimore

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