Walmart CEO questions US employment, People dropping out of the work force and lower disposable income, Bellwether Walmart sales and traffic sluggish, Part time jobs and labor force participation rate
“11.4%: What the U.S. unemployment rate would be if labor force participation were back to January 2008 levels.” …James Pethokoukis, American Enterprise Institute, June 2013
“Approximately 1 million more people could only find part time employment since Obama took office in January 2009.”…Citizen Wells August 2013
“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”…George Orwell, “1984″
Citizen Wells has warned for years of the plummeting labor force participation rate and part time jobs replacing full time jobs.
Evidence of the impact of reduced full time employment comes from Walmart.
From Zero Hedge July 8, 2014.
“When the CEO of the world’s biggest company doubts the veracity of US economic data, you know you have a problem. After quarters of disappointing growth in the face of miraculous equity market performance; Wal-Mart CEO Bill Simon warns that shoppers aren’t returning at the pace one might expect years after the recession peaked, despite mainstream media interpretation of the data showing unequivocal growth. Simply put, he exclaims, “the unemployment numbers particularly have been difficult to read with the number of people dropping out of the work force,” adding that if we see a further drop in the participation rate it would fit with the fact that “middle-class and lower-class are still economically challenged, only spending during holidays and for family occasions,” adding that traction has only come at the top-end.”
“CNBC “Is that the problem with sales, your consumers don’t have as much disposable income to spend?”
Wal-Mart CEO: “Yes – Retail in general has not been robust in the last six years, in the last year particularly.””
“This is not a tin-foil-hat-wearing blogger or ranting Chicagoan (or former GE chairman) – this is the current CEO of the world’s largest revenue-producing firm casting doubt on the reality of the jobs picture the government is painting and furthermore confirming things are anything but back to normal…”
Read more:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-08/what-rosy-job-numbers-wal-mart-ceo-slams-recovery-mirage
Citizen WElls 
Good morning.
Would anyone like to know why the government is NOT housing the illegal immigrants in the hundreds of FEMA camps across America?
The answer to the above question is here…..
The FEMA camps are reserved for legal citizen patriots that will be rounded up soon, very, very soon, and placed in detention…..most likely forever.
So now you know why Obama is asking the Catholic community to take in all the illegals coming out of South and Central America…….
The use of the FEMA camps has already been decided…those facilities have been reserved for the likes of you and me
OBAMA’S 2016 REPLACEMENT….THE MINI-ME.
IIn pursuit of additional information regarding the two SS numbers of Michelle, I am trying to Find a list of all Micheals that were born between1960-1980 in the Chicago area. Does anybody have any info regarding Michelle as a teenager?. I personally believe that there is NO history involving her years as a child. If none can be found it is probable that Michelle Robinson did not really exist as a younger person. I believe that SHE was ONCE Micheal……….which would account for two SS account numbers. Some time back the ALLEGED POTUS was making a speech in front of a lot of military brass. He began talking about himself, and his (ALLEGED) wife when he said the words “Micheal ,and I”……yet another slip of the tongue….. just like the “57 STATES”,and “MY MUSLIM FAITH”,remarks. The loop of the garrote is slowly closing. We must rely upon PUBLIC INFORMATION DATABASES, because census figures are not released to the public until 100 years after the actual census. I am asking anybody who has an active membership to a PI database to run a search for all persons born between 1960 and 1980 in the Chicago area,whose given name was “Micheal”. We then need to know that person’s SURNAME. Once we have that it might be possible to find his SS number. Both of Michelles social security numbers were published on the internet,one of them is NOT hers. All that will be necessary once we have a surname ,will be to run the SS numbers with the name ,and if there is a match we will KNOW THE TRUTH about MOOCH.
oldsailor82,
You may want to use the spelling: Michael,
my brothers’ name.
oldsailor82,
If there was a marriage license, it may contain some “real” names.
CW……
Now would be a great time for Wal Mart to close down all of their New York stores like DeBlasio wants,and put about 100,000 more people on the New York welfare rolls. Obviousy DeBlasio would also like to get rid of McDonalds as well. His sick twisted mentality speaks for itself. It appears that his INTELLIGENCE QUOTIENT is not even out of the single digit column. While Wal Mart or McDonalds will probably NEVER depart New York, the thought makes me SALIVATE. Let Mr. DeBlasio get a taste of what will happen to New Yorks economy when another 100,000 people start sucking up welfare money, through a” soda straw.”
Old Sailor 1:50 p.m.
There are several pictures of Michelle as baby, toddler, with parents/family, young girl, teen, etc. if you google “Michelle Obama as a baby”.
I think the story of her “type” female; pushy/masculine/muscles, fits more the story of her being used as the “beard” for Obama in the set up for such “couples” to hide the male’s true orientation by her (their) phony pastor, the Rev. Wright, at their church. There is the testimony of the other parishioners about these set ups for such black “men” (and the type of females that are not “desirable” by most regular men….but who will cooperate in such weird arrangements for the goodies/bling they’ll get) who want to hide their identities so they can move on up as “professionals” in their communities without suspicion by those who don’t approve within the black scene.
Observer | July 9, 2014 at 3:18 pm
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Is it possible, that Michael got jealous, and bumped off Donald Young?
The plot thickens!
Allen West
Oh this is priceless. Video of Harry Reid complaining about the “five white men” on the Supreme Court who voted in favor of Hobby Lobby. Yo Harry,
http://allenbwest.com/2014/07/yo-harry-amiblackenough-video/
The Liberal Media Won’t Mention This About The New Orleans Mayor Just Sentenced To Ten Years In Jail
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2014/07/09/he-gets-10-year-sentence-former-new-orleans-mayor-ray-nagins-party-affil?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Marketing&utm_term=Facebook&utm_content=Facebook&utm_campaign=Nagin-PartyID
Observer.
……but we have no way to actually validate the pictures either. I could post a picture of a person and say it is a picture of George Washington,and in the absence of certification it becomes anybody’s guess.
I believe the illegal alien, usurper, “Obama”s’, effort to go around congress on the immigration front, is being done to decriminalize himself after he was caught using stolen Id’s, faking birth documents, and lying about his citizenship. Does it get any worse?
Pardoning himself, in advance of prosecution.
Bob Strauss
Thanks for the SPELLCHECK. Jonah once stated that she had found a record of a marriage license issued in Chicago for the two. However in most states you cannot obtain a marriage license without some form of certifiable birth record. There is NO CERTIFIABLE BIRTH RECORD FOR either Barry Soetoro,or Barack H,Obama. In reality, since he has not yet legally reinstated his alleged birth name, he was then ,and still is Barry Soetoro. So Mooch would NOT be able to legally use the Obama surname either or,for that matter sign any legal documents as such. I also believe that it was the lie to the Illinois bar association regarding his use of another name which ultimately caught both Barry as well as Mooch, which ended with their voluntary surrender of their law liscensures.I personally believe that the alleged marriage was a total SHAM, which was designed to make Soetoro look as though he is STRAIGHT. In that context I completely agree with Observer.
oldsailor82 | July 9, 2014 at 3:58 pm |
Observer.
……but we have no way to actually validate the pictures either. I could post a picture of a person and say it is a picture of George Washington,and in the absence of certification it becomes anybody’s guess.
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oldsailor82,
This regime is infamous for photo shopped pictures, showing the usurper in various stages of metamorphosis as he aged. I’m sure they used the same plan for the other half of the fraud as well.
observer…….
……..and there is also the question why MOOCH has had two SS numbers. I personally think that this is a indication at least that something is wrong with HER/HIS past. As I stated earlier if a surname can be found bearing a Michael prefix it only then becomes a matter of running the published numbers through the SS number checker,and if there is a match with the Michael, it won’t bode well for MZZZZZZZZZZZZ.MOOCH.
I smell a war brewing, thanks to the usurper.
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Isalmic States Obtains 2,500 Sarin-Filled Rockets
http://weaselzippers.us/192635-islamic-state-seizes-iraqi-chemical-weapons-facility-where-2500-rockets-filled-with-sarin-are-stored/
Democrats caught red handed cheating and using voter fraud in the election, and busted. Thank you True The Vote!
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True the Vote refiles runoff suit in Southern District of Mississippi
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDgQqQIwBA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sunherald.com%2F2014%2F07%2F09%2F5690618%2Ftrue-the-vote-refiles-runoff-suit.html%3Fsp%3D%2F99%2F184%2F208%2F&ei=MKm9U-mxC5TooATylIH4BA&usg=AFQjCNF1cRYegzJcSOzD1v52rWahj0Er0w&bvm=bv.70138588,d.cGU&cad=rja
Cruz Demands Cochran Investigation
http://www.westernjournalism.com/ted-cruz-weighs-mississippi-gop-scandal/
Michelle Obama Uses Bogus Social Security Numbers!
Posted on April 10, 2012 by Bridgette
How Many Social Security Numbers Can One Family Have?
One of Many SSN’s for Michelle
Michelle Obama Has her Own Skeletons
Just Like Her Husband Barack Obama
The so-called First Lady of The United States of America, Michelle Obama, has a few skeletons of her own that she needs to explain away.
Last spring as I was collecting the many addresses and social security numbers that Barack Obama has been using for several years, an interesting anomaly popped up. It was a discovery that Michelle Obama has been using several bogus social security numbers, and some are attached to actual living persons.
A search from the state of TX for Michelle Obama yielded one hit for the SSN 435-87-XXXX, and it clearly shows a link to Michelle Obama and five separate listings for the same SSN. Also note the date of her connection to this number in 08/2008, the same year as the presidential election.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwtpotus.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F04%2F10%2Fmichelle-obama-uses-bogus-social-security-numbers%2F&ei=Aqy9U6ucDJfjoAS9_YDYAQ&usg=AFQjCNFY7HyIQj6i20uXIor45zzoelZP8g&bvm=bv.70138588,d.cGU
This proves that much greater threats than migrant children are crossing our borders…
What This Border Guard Just Found Shows We Are Being Invaded By More Than Just Kids
http://westernjournalism.com/border-guard-just-found-shows-invaded-just-destitute-kids
MUST READ…What are you doing to throw of the yoke of Obama tyranny?…
Original publish date: July 3, 2014
Obama and Dems increase importation of US citizen replacements and enemies of USA
By Sher Zieve
In a calculated plan to replace US citizen voters, Obama and the Democrats devised an Orwellian scheme that is now playing out in front of ours and the world’s eyes. Obama is disenchanted with the fact that he is still not recognized as King or Emperor of America and his supplicant Democrats are demanding the titles of Duke and Duchess. Therefore, as he’s been getting away with it since he usurped the Office of POTUS with no elected official anywhere stopping him, Obama is – yet again – committing treason against the USA and its people via “providing aid and comfort to the enemies of the USA.”
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2014/07/must-readwhat-are-you-doing-to-throw-of.html
complete article.
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MUST READ…What are you doing to throw of the yoke of Obama tyranny?…
Original publish date: July 3, 2014
Obama and Dems increase importation of US citizen replacements and enemies of USA
By Sher Zieve
In a calculated plan to replace US citizen voters, Obama and the Democrats devised an Orwellian scheme that is now playing out in front of ours and the world’s eyes. Obama is disenchanted with the fact that he is still not recognized as King or Emperor of America and his supplicant Democrats are demanding the titles of Duke and Duchess. Therefore, as he’s been getting away with it since he usurped the Office of POTUS with no elected official anywhere stopping him, Obama is – yet again – committing treason against the USA and its people via “providing aid and comfort to the enemies of the USA.”
The Obama importation of foreign illegal aliens – which include gang members, Islamists, drug cartel members and human traffickers – is increasing markedly each and every day and is an obvious criminal and treasonous act. Don’t be fooled. These are NOT just “poor children” who are being imported. They are illegals of every stripe being aided by Obama and one of his advisors Cecilia Munoz who is a former President of the racist subversive group La Raza. At least some of the citizens of towns and cities where these illegals are – quite literally – being “dumped” are becoming angrier and more active with each new Obama-move to destroy them. On Tuesday 1 July, the citizens of Murrieta, California turned back buses filled with illegals and forced them out of town. Note: More towns and cities need to do the same thing. Our legislators and judiciary will do nothing until we US citizens force them to do so.
We have reached a point in our country where We-the-People must either stand up to the tyranny, become extremely active in our home towns and cities against the tyrannical policies now being forced down our throats and patrol the borders ourselves with our militias. Since 2009, our country has been threatened by the ObamaGov and has now been almost completely dismantled by its calculating and manipulative racist totalitarian leaders. In Obama’s world only the supportive-of-him elites are to live well. The rest of us are to bow to his command and survive on his and his elites’ table scraps. Even many on the Left have now seen the truth of his plan, while only those well-paid trolls still support him. Obama and the Dems have, also, now vowed to circumvent the US Supreme Court’s recent decisions, while Obama had already disregarded Congress as a federal government branch several years ago.
Folks, each and every day Obama is slapping us harder and harder in the face with one atrocity after another. He has not followed the US Constitution – which he disdained even before he was elected (aka “coronation”) to the Office of POTUS. He has now fomented and is implementing this foreign, criminal and Islamist invasion of the USA. Are you./we waking up yet? Will you help stop these abuses against us all – including you – or were you born to be a slave? You can protest all of these abuses in your own cities and stop the assault of Obama-sponsored illegals to replace you as they did in Murrieta, CA. If you’re qualified, you can join the militias forming on our Southern border. We-the-People must take back our country as our elected leaders won’t and our USBP Agents have been told to “stand down” by the Obama-Jarrett team – the same team who is determined to replace you and shut you up. Now IS the time to panic and said panic started some time ago. And a real – not a “namby-pamby” one – march on Washington D.C. needs to happen soon. It is time to begin the restoration of justice and our Republic.
“When justice is done, it is a joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers” – Proverbs 21:15
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/
News Flash To The Left–Stopping Your Agenda Is How The Constitution Works
L. Todd Wood, July 9, 2014
I for one am continuing to fight the good fight.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/news-flash-left-stopping-agenda-constitution-works/
Louie Gommert, and Bill O Reilly say: President can’t be trusted!
53 sec video.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/spirited-texas-congressman-sick-of-libs-claiming-to-be-compassionate-party/
Obama’s Immigration Lawyers’ Enrichment Act
Michelle Malkin, July 9, 2014
Expedient promises by both parties to “secure the border” are worthless.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-immigration-lawyers-enrichment-act/
What This Lefty Writer Said About July 4th Will Make Your Blood Boil…
Bill Robinson, July 9, 2014
The lame and sinister Independence Day manipulations of Jim Sleeper and Salon magazine
http://www.westernjournalism.com/lefty-writer-said-july-4th-will-make-blood-boil/
Check out these comments about the “First Lad” y of the U.S.
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/07/08/caption-contest-a-mooch-with-no-boobs/#comments
Brent Bozell
Did the president rejoin the “Choom Gang” in Denver? What else explains this kind of claim?
Obama: ‘By Almost Every Measure, We Are Better Off Than When I Took Office’
The President’s unbelievable claim is easily debunked.
http://www.cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/curtis-kalin/obama-almost-every-measure-we-are-better-when-i-took-office
re: the five white men on the USSC: Did Clarence Thomas change his colour? The last time I saw his picture he looked black.
Good Morning CW, everyone.
Good morning Zach, et al.
Chicago Sun Times reporter Natasha Korecki surrenders her integrity to Rod Blagojevich
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2014/07/09/chicago-sun-times-reporter-natasha-korecki-surrenders-her-integrity-to-rod-blagojevich/
Aussie…….
Maybe Thomas is being looked upon like an OREO COOKIE. (BROWN ON THE OUTSIDE AND WHITE IN THE MIDDLE)
Aussie
Here is another thought relating to Harriet Reed………Do you suppose that she can only count to 5? It would account for the 24/7 stupid look on her face,and the MORON sound to her voice.
……..sort of like her friend who talks about having been in 57 states, and his MOOOOOOSLIM faith. I don’t remember any American POTUS who believed there is 57 states. Maybe I have been educated incorrectly.
My common sense tells me the ONLY reason Obama and HHS officials have muzzled the press and have refused to allow ALL congressmen from visits to the immigration centers where those ILLEGAL children are being housed is because……..
Obama/Jarrett is afraid those kids will tell the congressmen the truth that they (the children) were encouraged by Mr. Obama to “come to America”…
to support this position, I remind everyone that HHS was advertising in JANURARY for ‘child escorts’….Now how did they know in Jan that thius was going to happen in July?
This tells me OBAMA knew in Jan that this crisis was going to happen in July !!!
Now just how did Obama KNOW in Jan that it was going to happen in July?…..Did he have a crystal ball? Did he borrow Jarrett’s Qugi Board? Maybe a little red bird told him? …
No. no, he knew because he personally put all the wheels in motion and by doing so, he knew what was coming down the tracks in July to America…
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure this man-made ( well boy dictator) disaster out !!! And presto….all of his other man-made crisis’s have dropped off the map.
Now he wants congress to allocate 3.7 BILLION dollars to care for these illegal children which he invited here….we could send them all back to their points of origin by airplane, house them in a hotel the night before and feed them a first class meal and save the American people 99.5% of that 3.7 Billion.
In fact, why don’t we send Obama along with them as their escort !
if they are NOT returned to their country, the next move by Obama and his gang will be to make a “humanitarian push” to bring all their parents, aunts, uncles and neighbors of these children to America because it won’t be right to have the poor children here without those who sent them here in the first place….
This will make that 3.7 BILLION look like chicken feed when it comes to supporting this “humanitarian crisis”…..
If this sounds like a harsh position….I make no apologies….when the future of my grandchildren and the future of this nation are in danger of becoming like the banana republics from which the flood of illegals are coming… well “charity starts at home”.
Without BORDERS, there are no NATIONS…
By Hook or Crook… I promise to rid our Kingdom of ALL the Rats…..
All you need is a lot of CHEESE……and one Blow-Heart politician !
Anyone notice any similarity between the Flat Piper of Hamlin and our current Skin Flute Leader of Washington?
All of this illegal immigration of central and south American children has but ONE, I repeat ONE purpose……
TO HASTEN THE IMPLIMENTATION OF THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION…
Which not ONE single elected politician was ask to vote for, nor ONE single legal citizen of the USA was approached for his or her opinion……
IS THIS OUR ELECTED DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC IN ACTION ?
I think not !
Lifted from Before it’s News…. this am…….makes sense to me.
.Immigrant Children WILL be headed for a landfill… IF:
If this immigration psy op fails, and IF these children which are stolen directly from their countries end up being a liability rather than an asset, you can count on them being disposed of because they are NOT DOCUMENTED OR TRACED AND COMPLETELY DISPOSABLE WITHOUT ANY TRACE.
Here is the skinny, in one brief blurb:
Through my own investigative work, which involved driving 3,000 KM of Mexican roads and visiting 8 major cities, there was NOT ONE child from Central America to be seen ANYWHERE. My little journey also involved stopping at three large train yards to see what was up, and there were NO CHILDREN ANYWHERE.I interviewed a man at the largest train yard in Central Mexico, the main one in Guadalajara and he said no child has EVER come through that yard on a train, hopping trains is what very bold adults do and it is out of the league of children for anything other than photo ops.
Yet the children ARE disappearing from Central America, and I have the reason for that blown wide open also and it is:
Mothers in Central America are warning the children to stay away from white women who are working for charities and other so called “outreach programs” because once the children get involved with these people, they vanish.
Arturo, who works at the largest train yard in Central Mexico said that they are loading these children onto white buses in Central America, and that the Mexican border agents let them pass through Mexico under the agreement that there are no stopping points in Mexico other than to refuel. HOW WOULD THAT DO FOR LICE AND SCABIES? QUITE WELL, YOU SEE:
If kids are not allowed off a bus for a huge journey all the way from Central America up to the American border, all it takes is ONE on that bus to have a problem and ALL the children will arrive with the same problem. That works great for media psy ops, to make Central America and the children look horrible, when the real problem was a selfish destroy America NWO beurocrat who will probably start digging mass graves for these STOLEN children if the psy op does not go as well as planned.
Undocumented children can just be disposed of in a land fill if for any reason their usefulness vanishes and the politics of it all do not work out. Fat chance the child thieves would ever pay to ship them back home.
Paul wrote:
“During this research, I’ve been asking expats how ‘gringos’ are treated and a woman from Canada who is in Managua, Nicaragua replied back by email and said that this past 6 months or so, Nicaraguan mothers have been warning their kids to stay away from gringos, especially women and ESPECIALLY ones claiming to work for NGO’s or missionary types. Apparently, there have been a lot of “runaways” and young pregnant teens going missing and the locals there are ‘very suspicious’ that they’re being taken by these people. After thinking about it, I believe this would be a perfect plan – go to Central American countries, set up orgs to help children, once the kids are under their legal guardianship, they can then take them out of the countries and ship them to the US.”
My response
And THAT is the bombshell, and ANOTHER LITMUS TEST for the “alternative media”.
How many of them are going to report this? EVERONE OUT THERE, GET AHOLD OF DRUDGE AND LINK HIM TO THEBEFOREITSNEWS REPORT I POSTED ON THIS, IN CASE HE IS SQUEAMISH ABOUT A DIRECT LINK TO MY SITE. GET AHOLD OF GLENN BECK TOO, AND RUSH LIMBAUGH. HECK EVEN THROW IN RENSE AND ALEX. IF THEY FAIL TO REPORT THIS AFTER IT HAS BEEN SO SUCCINCTLY PROVEN FALSE BY ARTURO, THE TRAIN YARD VIDEO AND MY OWN JOURNEY, ALL OF THEM NEED TO BE SCRAPPED.
This child theft needs to be stopped in its tracks, for the sake of the children. I am CERTAIN the beurocrats behind this are the same ones who have done mass killings in the past, and if these children are ever seen as a liability rather than a psy op asset, they are headed for a landfill, COUNT ON IT
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I DIDN’T WRITE THIS…I’m ONLY REPORTING IT…….and in reporting this, I am reminded of another story of possible abuse of children by the Catholic church…..I will post that story next.
From childabusercovery.com……this story…..
It appears that the the 1980’s Franklin Coverup Scandal (child sex ring) in US was just the tip of the iceberg – whatreallyhappened.com… World is controlled by a satanist elite that are mass murdering and abusing children our watch according to linked article.
This has the potential of destroying the church and causing mass hatred against its followers.
From childabuserecovery.com…
The atrocity of close to 800 emaciated childrens’ bodies buried in a Irish Nuns’ septic tank represented the 34th child mass grave site linked this week to the Catholic Church. Pope Francis was being prosecuted by the International Common Law Court of Justice (ICLCJ) in Brussels for allegedly trafficking 300,000 children of political prisoners through Vatican Catholic Charities during Argentina’s Dirty War. According to witness testimony last week some of those orphans ended up in a child mass grave site in Spain. Last year’s ICLCJ prosecution concerned 50,000 missing native Canadian children. There have been 32 child mass grave sites uncovered so far in Canada, most of them on Catholic-run native residential school grounds.
Unfortunately the over 350,800 children suspected to be in Catholic child mass graves sites in three countries paled in number to Catholic Priest sex abuse victims across the globe. As of November 2013 over ten million Catholic Priest child sex abuse cases have been documented as shown here. docs.google.com…=0 These 10,077,574 cases represented a mere fraction of total crimes committed. Only an estimated 10% of sex abuse victims were thought to speak out about their sex abuse and just 10% of those cases saw the inside of a court room.
Amnesty has been offered to citizens or employees of the Crown of England and Vatican willing to give sworn testimony or evidence that leads to the prosecution of top Vatican and government officials who may have committed crimes. For providing evidence rewards up to 10,000 euros or around 13,660 dollars was available through the ICLCJ court.
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Before anyone says the Irish Nun ting …it didn’t happen…here is more proof:
Mass septic tank grave ‘containing the skeletons of 800 babies’ at site of Irish home for unmarried mothers
Hundreds of babies and toddlers believed to be buried in Tuam, Co Galway
The site lies next to a former home for single mothers and their children
The children’s home was run by Bon Secours nuns between 1925 and 1961
Children were malnourished and neglected, which caused many of deaths
They also died of TB, pneumonia, measles, convulsions and gastroenteritis
Relative of one missing child has filed complaint with local police, the Gardai
By Alison O’reilly
Published: 03:56 EST, 2 June 2014 | Updated: 11:33 EST, 5 June 2014
The bodies of nearly 800 babies are believed to have been interred in a concrete tank beside a former home for unmarried mothers.
The dead babies are thought to have been secretly buried beside a home for single mothers and their children in County Galway, Ireland, over a period of 36 years.
It is suspected that 796 children were interred on unconsecrated ground without headstones or coffins next to the home run by the Bon Secours nuns in Tuam between 1925 and 1961.
Newly unearthed reports show that they suffered malnutrition and neglect, which caused the deaths of many, while others died of measles, convulsions, TB, gastroenteritis and pneumonia.
The bodies of 796 babies and children were found next to the former children’s home at Tuam, Co. Galway
The babies were usually buried in a plain shroud without a coffin in a plot that had housed a water tank attached to the workhouse that preceded the mother and child home. No memorial was erected to the dead children and the grave was left unmarked.
The site is now surrounded by a housing estate. But a missing persons’ report just filed to Irish police, Gardai, means that the burial site may now be excavated.
A relative of one boy who lived there, William Joseph Dolan, has made a formal complaint to Gardai after she failed to find his death certificate, despite records in the home stating that he had died.
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A source close to the investigation said: ‘No one knows the total number of babies in the grave. There are 796 death records but they are only the ones we know of.
‘God knows who else is in the grave. It’s been lying there for years and no one knows the full extent or total of bodies down there.’The existence of the grave was uncovered by local woman Catherine Corless, who compiled the records of 796 babies who died at the home. She has established a group called the Children’s Home Graveyard Committee to erect a memorial.
She said: ‘People who had relations there are the most interested. They are delighted something is being done.
Horror: The scandal of the babies in the mass grave was discovered by local historian, Catherine Corless. ‘When I was doing the research, someone mentioned there was a graveyard there for babies but I found out there was more to it than that.’
With the help of the Births and Deaths Registrar in Galway, Mrs Corless researched all children whose place of death was marked ‘Children’s Home, Tuam’. Galway County Council has all the cemetery books for Mayo and Galway, and with the help of the archivist there, Mrs Corless cross-checked the grave records.
She said: ‘There was just one child who was buried in a family plot in the graveyard in Tuam. That’s how I am certain there are 796 children in the mass grave. These girls were run out of their family home and never taken back, so why would they take the babies back to bury them, either?’
The home, which closed in 1961, was one of several such establishments – Catholic and Protestant – for ‘fallen women’ across Ireland which had astonishingly high infant mortality rates.
Sean Ross Abbey in Tipperary was another: in the first year after it opened in 1930, 60 babies died out of a total of 120. Those who survived, meanwhile, were often sold abroad to childless couples.
At a memorial service at the site of the home yesterday, it emerged that women who gave birth at Sean Ross and other homes plan to file missing persons reports in a bid to track down their children.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2645870/Mass-grave-contains-bodies-800-babies-site-Irish-home-unmarried-mothers.html#ixzz375cS475t
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This is a sad , sad story of how humanity treats unwanted humanity……
SO BEFORE YOU SAY….WELL IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN IN AMERICA…THINK AGAIN !
Propaganda arm of the regime is at it again.
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Michelle Malkin
Reuters, Yahoo busted for bogus headline about Obama at “border” ==> http://twitchy.com/2014/07/10/what-a-freakin-lie-reuters-yahoo-busted-for-bogus-headline-about-obama-at-border-pics/
“Impeach This Lying Fraud”
Wow. A former VP candidate just announced that his own health insurance was cancelled because of Obamacare. This needs to spread everywhere!
He said, “We have a scumbag criminal for President. It’s time to impeach this lying fraud. The damage he has done to America is unimaginable.”
http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/impeach-this-lying-fraud/
Maybe this will awaken some blacks to the failure of their dream “messiah”:
Black Protesters in Murrieta, CA Confront Pro-Illegal Immigrant Supporters
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/must-see-video-black-americans-confront-pro-illegal-immigrant-supporters-in-murrieta/
RMinNC | July 10, 2014 at 1:54 pm |
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Seems as though you got to the non-fact checked notorious articles first:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/06/23/media-exaggerated-horror-at-irish-orphanage-but-hard-questions-remain-about/
and remember….in 1924 and 1925 most children’s “homes” involved workhouses and notoriously abusive conditions and that was universal with absolutely no concern for anything personal…most esp. personal religion in the secular culture of the day. With the Church now begging for the bodies of aborted babies for proper burial I wouldn’t exactly call it today as being in bad shape, esp. when comparing it with universal conditions of treatment in 1925 and measuring it against the rest of the culture of death!! In fact it is practically the only institution these days being universally permitted for attacks due to the fact of its stand against gay marriage/gay agenda/and of course abortion (deliberate targeting killing) for any reason.
Re: spotlighting only one institution for child abuse within the same culture that itself not only permits but legalizes conditions that promote just such child abuse conditions….Boy Scouts; notoriously within the public school system and now even restrooms and day care et al. But that spotlight is not shared evenly with the even more notorious (in numbers) Protestant denominations, Jewish and esp. Orthodox. Couldn’t possibly be related to the last permitted bigotry of the culture now could it….or, perhaps that same LSM and the attys “movin on up” in their new law suites celebrating all those deep pockets.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/hark/2010/05/25/scandal-creates-contempt-for-catholic-clergy/39/
And for instance:
On June 18, 2007 the Insurance Journal (here) reproduced a report stating that the three companies which insure the majority of Protestant churches in America say they typically receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by Protestant clergy, church staff, volunteers or congregation members. The report went on to comment, “the Catholic Church has revealed that there have been 13,000 credible accusations against Catholic clerics since 1950.” This report prompted one blogger here to comment, “Responding to heavy media scrutiny, the Catholic Church has reported that since 1950, 13,000 ‘credible accusations’ have been brought against Catholic clerics (about 228 per year.) The fact that this number includes all credible accusations, not just those that have involved insurance companies, and still is less than the number of cases in Protestant churches reported by just three insurance companies, should be making front page of The New York Times and the network evening news. It’s not.”
More “fessing up”:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/valerie-tarico/the-protestant-clergy-sex_b_740853.html
http://shoebat.com/2014/05/06/sexual-abuse-protestant-churches-catholic/
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/16/us/16protestant.html?_r=0
And the secular report by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York noted that 81% of abuse by the Catholic denomination was active homosexual abuse against pre and teen boys (not pediphilia)…..and this kind of “inclusion” which infiltrated the Church (churches and schools) due to all the PC push within the greater culture is exactly what is being foisted upon and covered for in all of our societal institutions today with no such equal shining of “spotlights” on them for some reason!. What a bunch of hypocrites!
Having worked in foster care and ordered reporting of abuse most all child abuse takes place by known family members or boyfriends or neighbors and most never get to court since no one will go that far in reporting. Universal human sin of such magnitude should not be used for bigoted purposes only while neglecting the even more egregious statistics worldwide. One of the known institutions for hiding stats of abuse of minors are abortion clinics…esp. Planned Parenthood.
Hopefully the House will follow through on this (a vote by the Senate is not needed):
RESOLUTION FILED ORDERING ARREST OF LOIS LERNER
Congress takes 1st step toward jailing former IRS division chief
(quote)
“That the Speaker issue his warrant directed to the Sergeant-at-Arms, or his deputy, commanding him to arrest and take into custody forthwith, wherever to be found, the body of Lois G. Lerner and bring her to the bar of the House without delay to answer to the charge of contempt of its authority, breach of its privileges, and gross and wanton insult to the integrity of its proceedings, and in the meantime keep the body of Lerner in his custody in the common jail of the District of Columbia, subject to the further order of the House.
The resolution continues, “While in custody Lerner shall enjoy no special privileges beyond those extended to her fellow inmates, shall not access any computer or telephone, and shall not be visited by anyone other than her counsel, clergy, physician or family.”
Stockman said, “Asking the Justice Department to prosecute Lois Lerner for admittedly illegal activity is a joke. The Obama administration will not prosecute the Obama administration.”
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/bill-submitted-to-holdlois-lerner-in-contempt/
More on Jailbird Lerner
http://personalliberty.com/judge-orders-irs-swear-explanation-lerners-emails-disappeared/
OPEY HAS A 72% APPROVAL RATING (with the Muslims)….
President Barack Obama’s approval rating is higher among Muslims than any other religious group, a new poll says.
According to a Gallup poll released Friday that tracked responses for the first six months of 2014, 72 percent of Muslims said they approve of the president, compared with just 20 percent who disapprove.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/poll-obama-approval-muslims-highest-108797.html#ixzz37AM4cUo4
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I think this poll is incorrect…..I think his approval rating is around 90% with the Muslims…….
Mary Matalin Speaks Out: Obama Has No Soul
“What do you think is going to happen to these kids? Do you really think they’re going to be reunited with families? Do you think they’re going to be sold into sex trafficking or they’re going to be used for drug mules?” she asked.
“Who’s going to take care of these kids? Who’s going to place them? … I cannot think of a worse crisis for any children anywhere in the world including our own when these unvaccinated and sick children make their way across the country. It’s a humanitarian threat to us, to us it’s a health threat to us.”
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/matalin-obama-empathy-texas/2014/07/10/id/581977#ixzz37ARMlnUC
anyone having trouble accessing drudgereport?
Honor, yes, earlier today. Just couldn’t load it, but it seems okay now.
RMinNC,
Your 90% muslim figure sounds about right! And I thought they were against abortion. How can that be when he is the most avid abortion pResident yet? I guess just like progressives, they are inconsistent and often lie through their teeth.
Just another day in la-la land with the CIC. Only up to us to stop this malevolent being.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/382435/where-ob
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/07/10/photos-obama-laughs-his-way-through-meeting-with-gov-perry/
I have a question, how the hell can 50,000 kids all have the same father and mother. On another blog I read where all the kids have a address of their parents…….but sadly they all have the address of the same place. While I don’t know for sure I do not think there are any of our male species who are capable of fathering that many kids,much less raise them. If our BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL MORONS think that is OK,most residential houses are rated SINGLE FAMILY,and just how the hell are they going to fit 50,000 kids into one house. har har……..and to make matters at that address worse there is with out a doubt another 50,000 en route.
thanks cabby. I still cannot access drudge or biggovernment. maybe a glitch on my pc
We would need a 500 vehicle fleet of Escalades with 500 hastily cloned 600 lb. AUNT JEMIMAS,to drive them.
JOKE OF THE DAY……
Bill Clinton started jogging near his home in Chappaqua. But on each run he happened to jog past a hooker standing on the same street corner, day after day.
With some apprehension he would brace himself as he approached her for what was most certainly to follow.
“Fifty dollars!” she would cry out from the curb.
“No, five dollars!” fired back Clinton
This ritual between Bill and the hooker continued for days. He’d run by and she’d yell, “Fifty dollars!” And he’d yell back, “Five dollars!”
One day however, Hillary decided that she wanted to accompany her husband on his jog! As the jogging couple neared the problematic street corner, Bill realized the “pro” would bark her $50 offer and Hillary would wonder what he’d really been doing on all his past outings. He realized he should have a darn good explanation for the prior Secretary of State.
As they jogged into the turn that would take them past the corner, Bill became even more apprehensive than usual.
Sure enough, there was the hooker! Bill tried to avoid the prostitute’s eyes as she watched the pair jog past.
Then, from the sidewalk, the hooker yelled to Clinton…
“See what you get for your five bucks!?”
RMinNC | July 11, 2014 at 9:26 am |
OPEY HAS A 72% APPROVAL RATING (with the Muslims)….
President Barack Obama’s approval rating is higher among Muslims than any other religious group, a new poll says.
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Muslims know that Obama is one of them.
Op-Ed Columnist
Obama: Man of the World
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: March 6, 2007
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=3&
Under Obama’s watch, the terrors of radical Islam has spread like wildfire across the middle east because they know he will not lift a finger to stop them.
oldsailor82 | July 9, 2014 at 4:13 pm |
Bob Strauss
Thanks for the SPELLCHECK. Jonah once stated that she had found a record of a marriage license issued in Chicago for the two.
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oldsailor,
I found the link to the Robinson/Obama marriage license. I cannot verify that it is an official document…..
Obama and Michelle Robinson of Chicago, Illinois were married (October 3, 1992). According to the marriage license, the ceremony was performed by Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Illinois.
http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/ObamaRobinsonMarriage.htm
I must add that it is NOT the original marriage license that is signed by the person who performed the marriage.
I do have a copy of the actual marriage license of Gabi E Clark and Harry Armour, Obama’s great grandparents. They were married March 1899 in Missouri. Harry and Gabi were Stanley Armour Dunham’s parents. I can email it to you, if you want.
Correction –
I do have a copy of the actual marriage license of Gabi E Clark and Harry Armour, Obama’s great great grandparents. They were married March 1899 in Missouri. Harry and Gabi were Stanley Armour Dunham’s grandparents. I can email it to you, if you want.
Jonah……….
The issuance of a marriage license by a county clerk usually bears the signature of the issuing county clerk. I am assuming that it was issued in either Cook,or Lake County, Can you verify which county,and who signed the license? If it was legally done there would have been a CERTIFIED COPY of a legally valid Birth certificate accompanying it and all of the documents would have been copied and filed,at the CLERKS office. If they used the Hawaii certification of live birth, as legal proof then the marriage could easily be INVALID. Frankly I don’t think either of them even give a damn anyway,because it was all designed to circumnavigate existing laws,and make Soetoro appear as a straight person rather than the sexual deviate he is perported to be.
Ad Promises $6,000/Month Tax Free to House Alien Minors
http://benswann.com/exclusive-ad-promises-6000-a-month-tax-free-to-house-immigrant-children/
Where’s Gordo??? I miss you
Jonah……
As for the Dunhams I don’t really care who,or what they were. They do not have any principle role involving Barry Soetoro,other than having expended their energy,and rescources to feed,cloth,and house his BASTARD carcass,who their sick twisted daughter created, then dumped on them to finish raising. I can’t stand the sight of people like her. I see them as SLIME. Such people are easy to find ….virtually every cheap barroom has them floating around!
Honor First…..
I second that!
oldsailor82,
Regarding the marriage license.
It’s another “certification”, that reminds me of the usurpers’ “COLB”, different background, and no embossed Seal.
Jonah………
I would venture to guess that if both Gabi Clark, and Harry Armour were exhumed tomorrow they would be found to HAVE TURNED OVER IN THEIR respectiive coffins.
oldsailor82,
Regarding the marriage license.
It’s another “certification”, that reminds me of the usurpers’ “COLB”, different background, and no embossed Seal.
Read the bottom line just above printed border. Does anyone see an embossed seal?
Bob Strauss…….
Given all of the recent Arpaio PROBABLE CAUSE findings relating to the PHONEY BC published by the WACKEY HOUSE, you don’t really need much further evidence to conclude that NO LEGALLY VALID BC existed at the time of the ALLEGED marriage either. Here is another little morsel. Public INFORMATION DATABASES pick up their information most of the time from the LEGALS released by the various agencies within a city government, who originate the various documents used such as marriage licenses,etc. We could NOT FIND any record of a LEGALLY performed marriage, of Barry Soetoro,and Michelle Robinson. This would be the ONLY legal name that would appear on any legal instrument prepared which both would ultimately sign. If he signed the name Barrack H Obama he signed an ILLEGAL name to the request for marriage license. He was then,and still is legally Barry Soetoro, and that would also be Mooche’s surname as well. You can twist it ,bend it beat on it but you cannot escape the necessity for the truthful signatures upon the request for marriage license, accompanied by a certified copy of a legally valid BC. Simple logic,and legally required by law in most states.
Bob Strauss…….
In the 1960s most states used microfilm records. When there was duplications made for anyone they were PHOTOSTATIC copies. Just asa were the copies of the Nordyke twins. That is exactly what a copy of Soetoro’s legally valid BC should look like as well. Since there is NO such copy to be found it is logical to assume that a legally valid Hawaii BC does not now,nor has ever existed.
oldsailor82,
What ever happened to the truth?
Soetoro makes Ray Nagin look like a light weight.
Soetoro is where he is today, because he is a Taqiyya master. Master of BS!
oldsailor82 | July 11, 2014 at 4:14 pm |
Bob Strauss…….
In the 1960s most states used microfilm records. When there was duplications made for anyone they were PHOTOSTATIC copies. Just asa were the copies of the Nordyke twins. That is exactly what a copy of Soetoro’s legally valid BC should look like as well. Since there is NO such copy to be found it is logical to assume that a legally valid Hawaii BC does not now,nor has ever existed.
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By federal law, all states stored records the same way, on microfilm. But laws mean nothing to forgers, and usurpers.
Bob Strauss………
I looked at the alleged CERTIFICATION OF MARRIAGE. I think that the validity of this would be easy enough to check out. I like you do not see a PAID WITNESS stamp. In addition I see the date of request is 04/29/2008. I know that in Indiana the date is not usually expressed in the way it appears on the alleged CERTIFICATION. In addition in Indiana there would also be a embossed seal of the notary witness, to CERTIFY. So I see possible question right off, but it can only be validated by using the license number itself 9232007-0. My guess is that the licensure was ontained illegally simply because it bears the name Obama. That in and of itself renders the alleged certified document INVALID.
The CERTIFICATION might be valid,but I strongly suspect that it is the MARRIAGE LICENSE itself which is LEGALLY INVALID.
HERE IT IS!!!
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Full List of Claims of Things Caused by Global Warming
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm
oldsailor82 | July 11, 2014 at 4:37 pm |
The CERTIFICATION might be valid,but I strongly suspect that it is the MARRIAGE LICENSE itself which is LEGALLY INVALID.
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“Not valid without embossed seal”, one thing the forgers can’t fake, and there is no seal on that certification. It’s just another fake document used to advance the fraud. Just like all of the other documents, photoshopped.
Bob Strauss………
All of Barry and Michelle Soetoro’s federal tax returns would also be invalid,and they would both be criminally liable for unpaid taxes as well, as for falsifying the returns, and signing illegal names to the returns. If IRS was on the stick they would have figured that out years ago…..especially since he and Michelle VOLUNTARILY surrendered their law licenses. If anybody at IRS saw this,and if he was a competent investigator would have followed this path to learn exactly why they surrendered their law licenses. Nobody of sound mind would study for a juris degree,and take a bar exam then voluntarily GIVE IT ALL UP……there is an underlying REASON.
………….and the underlying reason reads something like this…….”Have you ever used another name”…..Soetoro answers NO. Not very long after that at some point both he, and Lady Fatima were summoned by the Illinois bar association,and I would not be surprised if they cut a deal for the voluntary surrender of their law licenses, which the bar association would have done anyway. The bar agreed to keep it secret,so that their political career would not be affected…..that is until the information was either leaked or found by some other means. I personally think that with the right application of inquiry this could be confirmed and made public.
BLESSED FATHER…( he must have been an Irishman)
Subject: Fw: Community Service
A guy enters a Roman Catholic Church confessional booth in D.C. He tells the priest;
“Bless me, Father, for I have sinned. Last night, I beat the hell out of an
Obama supporter.”
The priest says, “My son, I’m here to forgive your sins, not to discuss your
community service.”
oldsailor82 | July 11, 2014 at 4:56 pm
Nobody of sound mind would study for a juris degree,and take a bar exam then voluntarily GIVE IT ALL UP……there is an underlying REASON.
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RICO
bob strauss | July 11, 2014 at 5:26 pm |
oldsailor82 | July 11, 2014 at 4:56 pm
Nobody of sound mind would study for a juris degree,and take a bar exam then voluntarily GIVE IT ALL UP……there is an underlying REASON.
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RICO
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Also, Sheep Skins can be purchased. The usurper probably came by his, the same way he came by his birth certificate, made one in cyberspace.
This Chart Reminds The Rest Of The World Why America Shouldn’t Be Messed With
Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/chart-shows-us-military-dominant-global-force/#aWmirT8VRU1Qk6s0.99
Politics: A Two-Headed Rattlesnake
by SUSAN DANIELS July 7, 2014
I used to believe we had a two-party political system. I was delusional. I got a good smack of reality on September 4, 2012, as I stood in front of a Republican judge in a rural county of Ohio. The treatment would have been no different with a Democrat on the bench. I was there because I had filed a lawsuit against the Republican Ohio Secretary of State, John Husted, in an effort to keep Barack Obama off the ballot in November 2012. http://www.scribd.com/doc/122020325/
There is a good reason why I filed it.
I believe that Barack Obama is a fraud and a liar. I am neither. I discovered the truth about Obama five years ago as I was investigating his questionable background for a client. I am a licensed private investigator in Ohio and have been for more than twenty years. Of the approximately eight hundred investigative companies here, a couple dozen are owned by women. I belong to that small group.
I also belong to the subsets that include widows, septuagenarians, mothers of seven, grandmothers, great-grandmothers, holders of master’s degrees, paralegals, notary publics, those of Irish ancestry and my favorite of all: certified write-in candidates for President of the United States. But I digress.
As a licensed investigator I have access to information that others don’t. As I began my investigation into the background of Barack Obama, I expected to find nothing. After all, he was already installed as president, even though never vetted by anyone.
His rush to spend our money didn’t sit well with me, and I pushed on after encountering multiple dead ends. Suddenly, there it was! A social security number (SSN), assigned to Obama, popped up which I immediately recognized as fraudulent. It was a number issued in 1977 in Connecticut and could not be Obama’s.
Until June 2011, SSNs were issued to the address where a person lived when he or she applied for their number and in the state where he or she resided. I have looked at thousands of SSNs, which is why I recognized the discrepancy immediately. I also knew after years of experience how the numbers were distributed across the country.
READ MORE…
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/politics-a-two-headed-rattlesnake?f=must_reads
Just heard on Bret Baier’s Report that a large number of pink slips are being issued to the military, even while serving in a war zone. Crass and asinine.
If we use the KISS method (“keep it simple stupid”, for those not in the know), let’s digest just the following four points. Of course, there are many, many more, but for brevity consider the following:
1) Soetoro is responsible for great reductions in our military and firing many top brass.
2) Soetoro has signed off on the reduction of our missiles and defense system.
3) Soetoro is glazed over when it comes to the great advances made by ISIS in the mid-east and seems unwilling to address the issue of possible, grave terrorist attacks.
4) Soetoro is doing nothing to stem the tide of illegals flowing over the Mexican border, and the majority are above 12 yrs. old. Is this his future
civilian army? Just a thought.
Okay, if one can take the time to ponder the above, what conclusion would a sane person come to? Is Soetoro FOR America or AGAINST America?
Graphic Illustrates Exactly Where Each Of The 35 Top Militaries Stands On The World Stage
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/155980-one-graphic-illustrates-exactly-35-top-militaries-stands-world-stage/
CabbyAZ
I would see all 4 of his virtues as “STANDING WITH THE MUSLIMS,when the political winds become ugly”
Old Sailor,
Exactly, but you are much smarter than most of the people generally. I am planning to present those four points to a nonpolitical someone I know who voted for the rascal. “For” or “Against” is something a more lo-info voter might understand.
AND NOW………….
…………..we see,and hear Jesse Jack off whining about the crime level in Chicago. He and his buddy AL SHOVEL FACE,are right out front having incited the Chicago blacks to violence. So Chicago is only getting a taste of what Mr. Jack-off perpetrated. These morons are two of the STUPIDEST sounding people I have ever heard when they try to say something intelligent.
Here is some more food for thought…….Has anybody ever wondered why Soetoro’s mother died at such a young age? While I have not seen a copy of her death certificate, I personally think that Lil Barry decided to get even with her for sending him back to live with Gramma. There had to be a reason to that also. In addition he may have resented being seen with her,as well as with gramma. She died in 1995 If he was born in 1961 then he would have been 24 years of age when Stanley Ann passed away,or was murdered. I believe that Soetoro would have had no compunction whatsoever about killing his own mother. It would NOT BE a surprise to me.
TYPO…….24 =NO……….34 =YES
oldsalt,
As far as I can tell a birth certificate is NOT required to apply for a marriage license in Cook County unless the applicants are 16 or 17 years old,. I do not know what the requirement was in 1992 when MO and BO were married.
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http://www.cookcountyclerk.com/vitalrecords/whatid/Pages/default.aspx#special
Special ID requirements for marriage and civil union licenses
One form of ID if submitting one of the following:
State drivers license
State identification
U.S. passport
U.S. Armed Forces identification card
– OR –
Any combination of two of these forms of ID:
Certified copy of Birth Certificate (English translations required for foreign certificates must be notarized)
U.S. naturalization certificate
U.S. resident alien card
Life insurance policy (at least 1 year old)
Foreign passport
Baptismal record (date of birth must appear)
Consulate identification card (matricula)
Marriage applicants 16- and 17-years old may obtain
a marriage license with:
Consent of parents listed on applicants’ birth certificates. All parents listed on each minor’s birth certificate must be present and show valid identification.
Certified copies of applicants’ birth certificates
A second form of identification showing applicants’ dates of birth
Jonah……….
The law here in Indiana is still as it was in yesteryear, a certified copy of a legally valid BC is required to obtain a marriage license. It was still in force in 1995 when I remarried. I don’t really understand why in Illinois it would be required for a minor but not required for an adult. I was not even aware that minors are allowed to marry anywhere. A minor has no power to even make a contract of any kind,anywhere,much less a marital contract. Nor can a minor agree to the terms of a contract.
Jonah………
You are exactly right. No BC copy is REQUIRED for marriage as long as you have other legally valid ID. Yet I have a problem with that.How the sam hill does a drivers license serve as positive ID. We have all seen how such documents are made,and it is easy to rig phoneys that will fool the best of them. A certified copy of a legally valid BC ( one that is attested to as valid by proper research) by paid witness, is not easy to obtain…..you need the cooperation of a paid witness. Perhaps if Illinois had more stringent laws,as well as people willing to enforce the laws, the city might not be following Detroit’s path. The ONE THING Jesse Jackson had right when he was WHINING on FOX tonight, was the state of Chicago. It is fast following Detroit,and several California cities,one of which is Los Angeles. Even in the 1950s when I was stationed aboard ship at Long Beach the deterioration of LA was painfully evident. In Chicago in the 1960s there was a lot of deterioration in plain sight in areas like Dempster, Wheeling,South and West Chicago as well. I guess that would be thanks to Old Mayor Daly,and his cohorts and later his son,and now Soetoro’s buddy, who BY THE WAY really looks very ILL. I saw a picture of him which was recently taken of him.It would not surprise me if he is in FULL BLOWN AIDS. I keep remembering what Rock Hudson looked like in his later days,of AIDS. I saw a picture of him which was taken about a month prior to his death,and I see the same general appearance in the face of Rahm Emanuel.
Jonah…….
If Soetoro used phoney ID as Obama, the marriage license would also be INVALID because of the absence of any certification of a legally adjudicated name change. His drivers’ license would also be a legally INVALID document,and useless as bonafida ID. After all his law license was lifted allegedly for the same reason……use of another name. Somebody at the Illinois bar association appears to know the TRUTH.
Goodnight all…….I pray that everybody has a really great weekend!
Goodnight oldsailor82. I am always surprised to see how late you guys stay up. When the sun goes down I start getting sleepy, at the first light I wake up. I can’t imagine 2:12am as anything other than a time to get up and pee.
Anyway good morning CW, et. al.
Good morning Zach, et al.
Bob Strauss: In reference to your post from the “family matters” website on July 11, 2014 @ 7:35 pm: Did you happen to see the comment left by RickAHyatt regarding 0bama’s biological father actually being Markus Wolf, Deputy Director of the East German STASI during the Cold War? Interesting theory, especially since it could be tied to Tom Fife’s story from his visit to Moscow in 1992 – Markus Wolf exiled in Russia after German Reunification in 1990.