US & NC jobs data reality, Labor force plummets, Part time jobs created, WSJ The Hidden Rot in the Jobs Numbers, CitizenWells reveals unreported data, Media continues to protect Obama

US & NC jobs data reality, Labor force plummets, Part time jobs created, WSJ The Hidden Rot in the Jobs Numbers, CitizenWells reveals unreported data, Media continues to protect Obama

“11.4%: What the U.S. unemployment rate would be if labor force participation were back to January 2008 levels.” …James Pethokoukis, American Enterprise Institute, June 2013

“Nearly half of U.S. companies are reluctant to hire full-time employees because of the ACA. One in five firms indicates they are likely to hire fewer employees, and another one in 10 may lay off current employees in response to the law.

Other firms will shift toward part-time workers. More than 40 percent of CFOs say their companies will consider switching some jobs to less than 30 hours per week or targeting part-time workers for future employment.”…Duke University Fuqua School of Business December 11, 2013

“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”…George Orwell, “1984″



2014 is an election year and the media continues to protect Obama.

Everyone could be unemployed and the mainstream media would portray the jobs situation as rosy.

The following article from the Wall Street Journal is a notable exception.

From the WSJ March 16, 2014.

“The Hidden Rot in the Jobs Numbers”

“Most commentators viewed the February jobs report released on March 7 as good news, indicating that the labor market is on a favorable growth path. A more careful reading shows that employment actually fell—as it has in four out of the past six months and in more than one-third of the months during the past two years.

Although it is often overlooked, a key statistic for understanding the labor market is the length of the average workweek. Small changes in the average workweek imply large changes in total hours worked. The average workweek in the U.S. has fallen to 34.2 hours in February from 34.5 hours in September 2013, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That decline, coupled with mediocre job creation, implies that the total hours of employment have decreased over the period.

Job creation rose from an initial 113,000 in January (later revised to 129,000) to 175,000 in February. The January number frightened many, while the February number was cheered—even though it was below the prior 12-month average of 189,000.

The labor market’s strength and economic activity are better measured by the number of total hours worked than by the number of people employed. An employer who replaces 100 40-hour-per-week workers with 120 20-hour-per-week workers is contracting, not expanding operations. The same is true at the national level.

The total hours worked per week is obtained by multiplying the reported average workweek hours by the number of workers employed. The decline in the average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls by 3/10ths of an hour—offset partially by the increase in the number of people working—means that real labor usage on net, taking into account hours worked, fell by the equivalent of 100,000 jobs since September.

Here’s a fuller explanation. The job-equivalence number is computed simply by taking the total decline in hours and dividing by the average workweek. For example, if the average worker was employed for 34.4 hours and total hours worked declined by 344 hours, the 344 hours would be the equivalent of losing 10 workers’ worth of labor. Thus, although the U.S. economy added about 900,000 jobs since September, the shortened workweek is equivalent to losing about one million jobs during this same period. The difference between the loss of the equivalent of one million jobs and the gain of 900,000 new jobs yields a net effect of the equivalent of 100,000 lost jobs.”

“Another possibility for the declining average workweek is the Affordable Care Act. That law induces businesses with fewer than 50 full-time employees—full-time defined as 30 hours per week—to keep the number of hours low to avoid having to provide health insurance. The jury is still out on this explanation, but research by Luis Garicano, Claire LeLarge and John Van Reenen (National Bureau of Economic Research, February 2013) has shown that laws that can be evaded by keeping firms small or hours low can have significant effects on employment.”

Read more:

I would like to add the following bit of data from the BLS.

The number of people who could only find part time work rose 121,000 from January to February 2014.

Did you see or hear that reported anywhere?

And now for NC.

From the Raleigh News Observer March 17, 2014.

“North Carolina’s unemployment rate continued improving in January to near the national average, falling to 6.7 percent, the state Commerce Department reported Monday.”

“”We’ve been in this kind of transitional period for years now. There are times when I say I wish I could have some news that was all good or all bad. If it was all good or all bad, it would be easy to interpret,” said Andrew Brod, a senior researcher at the business school at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro. “You take the numbers as a whole. They’re not all good or all bad.””

“About 60,000 dropped out of the pool of people either holding jobs or looking for work in the year ending in January, while nearly 106,000 left the unemployed list, the state report said. That indicated around 60 percent of the decline in the unemployment rate was due to people ending their job searches, for whatever reason, rather than landing jobs, Brod said.

“In terms of the flight from the labor force, it’s looking as though last year wasn’t as bad as we previously thought,” Brod said.”

Read more:
Here are a few interesting numbers from the NC state website.

Labor force participation rate

Jan 2009  64.9%

Jan 2013  62.6%

Jan 2014  61.1%

As you can see, the labor force participation rate plummeted 3.8% since Obama took office in January 2009 and 1.5% in the last year alone.

The number of people employed in NC in January 2013 was 4,310,807.

The number of people employed in NC in January 2014 was 4,356,090.

That is a one year increase of 45, 283 people employed.

Does that match up with the drop in unemployment rate and gain in jobs that you have read about?


Check for yourself.

Thanks to commenter and patriot Zach.



79 responses to “US & NC jobs data reality, Labor force plummets, Part time jobs created, WSJ The Hidden Rot in the Jobs Numbers, CitizenWells reveals unreported data, Media continues to protect Obama

  1. citizenwells

    From The Testimony Before The Committee on Financial Services United States House of Representatives February 11, 2014, John B. Taylor

    “Monetary Policy and the State of the Economy”

    “The Current Economic Situation

    Recently released data indicate that the U.S. economy continues to underperform, with the recovery from the deep 2007-09 recession looking as disappointing as ever. Real GDP growth has been too slow to close the gap between real GDP and its pre-recession trend, even incorporating the temporary pickup near the end of last year.1 Job growth has been too slow to
    raise employment relative the population, leaving the employment-to-population ratio below the recession low.2 While the unemployment rate has declined recently, much of the decline is due to an unusually large number of people dropping out of the labor force because of the weak recovery”


    I believe they are getting these damn things out of a Cracker Jack box…what say you?

  3. RMinNC | March 17, 2014 at 3:01 pm |
    I remember seeing that document back in 2008. It never got much attention from anyone I know of, even though the accuracy of the information is probably the closest to the truth.

    New information says the DNA shows the usurper is not related to his grand parents, so we may have to rely on the CCP for an answer. We sure won’t get an honest answer from the usurper.

  4. Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrates The White House


    Roger that Bob…..10-4 copy.

  6. Ho hum!

    Obama Eligibility Case Distributed
    for Conference at U.S. Supreme Court

  7. Michelle, her Mom , and two daughters, plus a boat load of Secret Service men, and Michelle’s personal staff, and the crew of Air Force Two thank you, the taxpayer (sucker), for making their China trip possible……if things get overtly HOT for us back in the US during our week over there….well we just may not come back.
    .First lady Michelle Obama will be doing some solo diplomacy this month, traveling to China for a week-long visit.

    During the March 19-26 trip, Obama will make stops in the Chinese capital city of Beijing, the central city of Xian, and the southwestern city of Chengdu, with an emphasis on education.

    “I’ll be visiting a university and two high schools in Beijing and Chengdu (which are two of China’s largest cities),” Obama wrote on the White House blog. “I’ll be talking with students about their lives in China and telling them about America and the values and traditions we hold dear.”

    Obama’s meetings also include one with Peng Liyuan, the wife of Chinese President Xi Jinping.

    The first lady will be accompanied by daughters Malia and Sasha, and mother Marian Robinson, many secret service officers, and her personal staff….
    P.S. I think I can speak for Barack who will be taking Air Force One to Saudi Arabia during the same period……he told me that he may also keep AF 1 if things got too hot for him to return to the USSA..that plane has a lot of nice gadgets to play with….beside Reggie of course.

    Old stupid Uncle Joe will have to take a banana boat to the Virgin Islands…we think….if he decides to go….

    After all the dust settles…we may pony up to the public the cost of these unnecessary “boon doggle”….my China thingee is expected it to be less than 7 or 8 million….I imagine Barack’s side trip will be a little more …..but after all, we Obama’s don’t come cheap.

  8. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    oldsailor commented on the last thread:

    “Hopefully Commander Fitzpatrick, and Lakin will both have their day in court….”

    It is my hope that Lakin is sworn in as a “reserve officer” and gets to slap the cuffs on Obama.

    How about THAT??

  9. This pretty well tells us where Congress stands…


    I too would like to see Larkin reinstated…

    but don’t hold your breath on that one…unless you get rid of all those “Kissass” Generals and Admirals from Dempsey down that have had a part to play in his dismissal…….

    For the last five years, it has been ” Monkey see, Monkey do” with that gang of branch Chiefs in the Pentagon…..Obama says “boo” and they all jump…boy are they the brave ones………..they are more interested in authorizing new medals for their uniforms…..

  11. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I’m on Zullo’s “side”, IF and only IF he delivers the goods some time this month.

    However, the man who says he asked Joe to investigate Obama’s eligibility to begin this investigation became a cold case member, but resigned:

    Zullo’s got TWO weeks. He’s had plenty of time to get his ducks in a row. His delay after delay makes me suspicious.

    People are free to believe what they want, but for me this “crying wolf” scenerio wears on me.

    He supposedly allows Gallups to see his evidence, but WE THE PEOPLE aren’t ready to see it???

    Gallups isn’t on the CCP, but yet he allowed to see what Zullo has.

    Why can’t I see it?

  12. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I have argued since late 2007 that Obama’s birth could have been REGISTERED with the State of Hawaii no matter where he was born.

    The statute also states that you can PHONE IN a birth if you are having trouble with the paperwork.

    Here are the statutes as of 2007, they may have been amended more since then:

    It is important to look at the dates on the statutes, because you have to look at the ones in effect BEFORE 1961.

    Anything after 1961 has no meaning at the time Obama was born.

  13. IB,
    Why can’t I see it?
    It sounds like they caught some paid obots interfering with an official investigation. Supposedly they are documenting this information, and building their case.

    It will take a long time to document all the crimes this regime is guilty of over the last 6 years, including several murders, countless fraud, and the usurpation of the POTUS.

  14. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I’d also like to comment that I believe the United States KNOWS where the missing plane is located.

    And I also find it very interesting that in this day and time ALL airplanes aren’t transmitting some sort of information no matter where they are. Something that can NOT be turned off.

    Something like ONSTAR (is that still available?), but the vehicle needn’t be turned on to transmit.

    I find it hard to believe that with the enormous amount of money spent on satelites, radar and those sorts of “toys”, a plane can just vanish in to thin air………………………poof

  15. Cross-Party Politician Sting! Only Black Dems Took Bribes

    The attorney general of Pennsylvania shut down a three year long investigation of corrupt elected officials because everyone they caught – on tape – taking cash and gifts … was a black Democrat.

    “Four state lawmakers took money,” the newspaper reported. “State Rep. Ronald G. Waters accepted multiple payments totaling $7,650; State Rep. Vanessa Brown took $4,000; State Rep. Michelle Brownlee received $3,500; and State Rep. Louise Bishop took $1,500, said people with knowledge of the investigation.”


  16. Interested Bystander | March 17, 2014 at 4:39 pm |

    Why can’t they just track the passenger’s cell phones.
    No service?

  17. Interested Bystander

    Bob commented:

    “It will take a long time to document all the crimes this regime is guilty of”

    How about giving us JUST ONE CRIME that they have the evidence for and PROSECUTE them for that?

    Once these criminals are in jail, it seems to me, those who feel threatened by him would be more willing to open up, and then more charges could be brought.

    Seems to me that it would be easier to prosecute one crime then say a 114 count indictment.

    It also seems to me that it would be a whole bunch easier to get a guilty verdict for something that is cut and dried, then to put all of this stuff in a stew, stirring it up and hoping it tastes good.

    There’s nothing that I know of that would stop the prosecution of each crime individually.

  18. Interested Bystander

    Bob commented:

    “Why can’t they just track the passenger’s cell phones.”

    How about a lap top?

    Or maybe the chip that your dentist put in that filling?


    With 79% Turnout, Exit Polls Confirm 93% Of Voters Back Crimea Joining Russia; US…,UK… Rejects Results

    With a voter turnout (79.09%) that exceeded every US Presidential election since 1900, the people of Crimea have LOUDLY spoken:



    Ukraine’s leaders have called up 20,000 men for a newly-created National Guard as despite the so-called “truce” Russian APCs and Tanks are rolling. Pro-Russian supporters are burning books in Donetsk after storming anti-Russian buildings. The White House is already out rejecting the vote (before the final results are released).

    It seems like the VOTE of the free people of the Crimea doesn’t count…only the idiotic voices of John Kerry, Obama, and Cameron of the UK have any meaning…..these people are hell bent to reshape the world in their own fuzzy image…..or they think they will….

    Mr. Putin has his own ideas on that. Back off Kerry, Obama, Cameron…the game is over, you are all checkmated……

  20. Interested Bystander


    Politicians are corrupt?

    No way!!!!!!!!!

    My question is what do we do with all of these government buildings in DC when all of these departments are shut down?

    DC will look an awful lot like Detroit.

  21. Interested Bystander


    From your comment:

    “With 79% Turnout, Exit Polls Confirm 93% Of Voters Back Crimea Joining Russia; US…,UK… Rejects Results”

    Why didn’t the UK and Russia do the same thing when Obama was elected?

    Let me ask those of us here:

    What if the people of Texas was rumored to want to return to Mexico rule and Mexico invaded Texas and then had a vote?

    Isn’t that essentially what happened in Crimea?

  22. Interested Bystander

    Ok All,

    I guess I’ll get off my soap box now.

    Hope all of us have a good evening.

    GO PACERS!!!

  23. NBC_Vic_Hern

    EPA audit reveals 92 percent prohibited improper or erroneous purchases…

    Democrat Administration clearly raiding the treasury as our Nation nears
    Republicans should jump on that like flies on Obama, and make them
    pay, pay and pay for that ………………Nov 2014…….Nov 2016……and
    Sink the Dem bosshogs ship for eternity.

  24. Interested Bystander, normally details of a criminal investigation are not given out until the have the case ready. From what I have been reading, people are coming out of the woodwork giving Mike Zullo new information. I would rather the trap be set wider and catch more scum bags than have them rush for some arbitrary deadline and miss someone? What if Zullo “almost” has enough on Harry Reid but pushes it and Harry is off the hook? There are no do overs with this.

    As far as the plane, I hope that they keep saying that they don’t know where the plane is, if the people on that flight are still alive, they won’t be for long if the hijackers know that the govt. is closing in. What we know, they know.

  25. It’s much deeper than that for reasons pertaining to Brian and who he actually is when it comes to the CCP. Its irrelevant pertaining to the case.

  26. MOSCOW – Russia’s deputy prime minister laughed off President Obama’s sanction against him today asking “Comrade @BarackObama” if “some prankster” came up with the list.

    Ridicule is the Alinsky way. Turn about is fair play.

  27. Doesn’t sound like Russians are too impressed with the usurper.
    Reagan was right, “Peace through strength” is the only thing some people respect.

    Official Russian television has warned that Russia can turn the U.S. Into “radioactive dust.” Remember during the Presidential campaign when Obama ridiculed the idea that Russia was our biggest geopolitical foe? Obama: wrong then – wrong now!

  28. Obama: wrong. period!

  29. Number is growing!

    VICTORY: Alaska’s House Demands a “Convention of the States”

  30. The one thing in this regime that HAS been “transparent” is the aggressive way Obama has been willing to appear when it comes to obliterating “stabilizing” strong men in the Middle East in favor of the thug MusBro buddies who are known de-stabilizers. This aggressive manner has also been demonstrated in the actions he’s taken against law abiding citizens in the U.S. He’s also aggressive in his labeling of Christians and military as the enemy to be watched and using threats against anyone who might disagree with him or call him a law breaker. So why is there so much excusing going on about his weak approach against Putin, another strong man, who could be put in his place via other Islamic extremists in the territory as well as via arming the Ukrainians and the other neighbors whose futures are also in jeopardy?

    Why has there been no discussion about this obvious weak approach with Russia along with the early on dismantling of the plan to arm our allies there with the anti ballistic missile systems and the overheard obvious plan to do more to aid Russia as his promise of “greater flexibility” after this past election? Why is there no discussion by all the geniuses that Obama’s approach in all instances is planned to escalate the spread of world Communism by NOT offering any kind of real threat to Putin that he might for once be held to by the EU? His little nothing sanctions are code to Putin that he may proceed. After all these years the “sophisticated” PC crowd still remains clueless about the real plans of this man and his buddies? Tom Fife would be more than willing to educate them about this hatched plan of decades in the making…..”Obama will be a ‘blessing’ for world Communism”! It’s one thing to naively not suspect something on this order to come from a POTUS but after watching all of Zero’s machinations of control and planned enabling of all of our enemies and do nothing or not even suspect the worst is to become deliberately blind and complicit with the treason.

    Again, it’s like the Aflac duck running around screaming the obvious in plain view of all the powers that be but to no avail!

  31. BOO!

    Putin is set to respond to Obama’s sanctions of Russian officials with his own list. Several U.S. Senators and officials will be banned from visiting Russia, including Sen. Dick Durbin.

    U.S. senators, congressmen and top Obama administration officials are sure to be on Vladimir Putin’s sanctions list; a response to the Obama Administration’s announcement on Monday that 7 Russian officials and 4 Ukrainian officials would be barred from holding assets or traveling to the United States.

    Putin is expected to release his retaliation list as early as Tuesday and while the final list is still being crafted, it will include top Obama administration officials and high profile U.S. senators, in an effort to roughly mirror the U.S. sanctions against Russian officials and lawmakers, according to diplomatic sources. At the top of the list in Congress is Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, who recently co-authored a resolution criticizing Russia’s invasion of Crimea.

    Durbin’s inclusion on Putin’s list would mirror Obama’s naming of Valentina Matvienko, the head of the upper chamber of the Russian Duma.

  32. William | March 17, 2014 at 6:25 pm |

    Who’s Brian?

  33. What could it hurt?? How quickly can you say control over buying and selling? Things just moving along like nobody’s business.

    When U.S. Steps Back, Will Russia and China Control the Internet?

    The United States is planning to give up its last remaining authority over the technical management of the Internet.

    The Commerce Department announced Friday that it will give the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), an international nonprofit group, control over the database of names and addresses that allows computers around the world to connect to each other.

    Administration officials say U.S. authority over the Internet address system was always intended to be temporary and that ultimate power should rest with the “global Internet community.”

    But some fear that the Obama administration is opening the door to an Internet takeover by Russia, China, or other countries that are eager to censor speech and limit the flow of ideas.

    …….The Internet was invented in the United States, and the country has always had a central role in its management. But as the Internet has grown, other countries have demanded a greater voice. Edward Snowden’s leaks about U.S. surveillance have only exacerbated that tension.

    China, Russia, Iran, and dozens of other countries are already pushing for more control over the Internet through the International Telecommunications Union, a United Nations agency.

  34. Very well said:

    Why is my blackness in question?

    Op/Ed by Providence Crowder
    Fri, Mar 14, 2014

    Recently, many black people have questioned my blackness. Apparently, for some, I’m not black enough.

    But, what makes the claim so bogus to me is that our bi-racial president has been accepted as black by the black masses, even though his mother is white and he was raised by his white grandparents.

    Some people have said what makes a person black is “the struggle.” What struggle, I ask? What more does Obama know about struggle than me? For a very brief time he lived in Indonesia, but, even in Indonesia, he lived a fairly comfortable life.

    Here, in America, he has lived a privileged life, gone to top notch schools and colleges—and he hasn’t even spent enough time around black people to pick up, as one Democratic politician put it, a so-called “negro dialect.”

    I, on the other hand, know a little bit about struggle. My family was poor by America’s standards, as were many other black, white, Hispanic, and “other” families that I know. We didn’t have many luxuries. We just had the basics. My family had been on food stamps before there was such thing as an EBT card. For years, we received our monthly allotment of government cheese, rice, boxed potato flakes, powdered milk, and dry cereal from our government taskmasters, in exchange for a small slice of our privacy and a big chunk of our dignity.

    I know a little bit about struggle. I’ve lived in crime-ridden and poor Rochester, N.Y. neighborhoods. For those who are familiar with the area, I have lived on both the east side and the west side.

    What does Obama know about the likes of Treyer St., Fourth St., Hoeltzer St., Clifford Ave., Flint St., Bronson Ave., Jefferson Ave., St. Simons Terrace, Fight Square, Fight Village, and Orleans St.? Those were my hoods.

    I know a little about struggle. I’ve endured both racial and gender-based discrimination.

    I’ve been sexually harassed, disrespected, spit upon, and called names.

    I know something about struggle.

    So, if I have the same sufferings and struggles of other blacks in America, why is my blackness in question?

    My skin is black. But apparently black skin isn’t black enough. My jet-black hair is fashioned in locks, but I guess natural black hair is not enough. My lips are full, my nose is wide, my mouth protrudes, and my dress size? Full. But, for some reason, that is not enough! My mother? Black. My father? Black. My children? Black. My husband? Black . . and fine! So, why is my blackness in question?

    I will give you a clue. During all the years I voted as a Democrat, I was considered blacker than black. I had been considered a “sista,” down for the struggle. My skin, my hair, my lips . . . black, black, black! My blackness was undeniable!

    But, after I realized that I preferred a Republican and Conservative form of government, and began voting as a Republican (denouncing my allegiance to the Democratic Party, the party of the KKK, Jim Crow, and segregation), my blackness came under attack.

    Instead of being considered a “sista,” many black people began believing I hated my own black skin. Instead of being down for the struggle, many black people started to think I wanted to see black people struggle. By these same people, I have been considered worse than a racist. I have been called a “sell-out” to my people, an “Uncle Tom.”

    I have received all that criticism for believing this welfare state impedes economic growth and minimizes opportunity, and that it does not lift people out of poverty, but instead condemns them to it.

    I have received all that hate from people who share my pigmentation, because I believe our rights come from God and not from government, and I exercise that belief with my vote. I have received all that hate because I believe that our federal, state, and local governments should be as fiscally responsible with other people’s money as they expect individuals and businesses to be with their own—and I exercise that belief with my vote. I have received all that name-calling, because I vote my values.

    Nevertheless, although names hurt, they don’t define me. I am black because God said it is so, and so it is—and I love my blackness.

    Yet, apparently, for some, blackness has more to do with the DNC than it does with DNA!

    All this, despite overwhelming documented proof of Democratic racism, past and present, and an outright disrespect and disregard for the dignity of the black man.

    So, I cannot let group think, peer pressure, persecution, or bullying inform my personal decisions and inclinations.

    My blackness does not depend upon my political preferences. I am black because God said it is so, and so it is.

  35. BREAKING: Gun Owners Defy Gun Registration in NY

  36. Loose ends?

    “The editor of the popular Web site, World Net Daily, Joseph Farah, is offering a $10,000 reward to anyone who can prove they were resent at the birth of President Barack Obama. June 27, 2009

    Has anyone come forward to collect?

    what about the Obama’s birth announcements appearing in the Honolulu Advertiser and Star Bulletin newspapers?

    Lets make sure we have all our facts in order and correct.

  37. Folks, the American people have a right to know the allegations about their POTUS and what Zullo has. The evidence against Nixon kept coming out and put so much pressure on him, he resigned. I think Zullo needs to get his info out now! Not two weeks from now, not two months, not two years. He has already shown it to Congress and law enforcement so he can show it to us and prepare charges later. Otherwise, his credibility is toast. Just my two cents.

  38. Good Morning CW, et. al.

  39. >>>>RMinNC | March 17, 2014 at 3:01 pm |

    That is the Blaine document.

    The first copy was seen in the Honolulu paper, I believe the Aloha Reporter .
    No one would say were it came from, but speculation was that it was with the 'divorce' papers of Stanley Ann Dunham and Barrack Obama. There are now pages missing from the divorce, and the Birth Certificate of the child was one of the missing pages.

    Experts discounted the authenticity,

    The birth certificate there demonstrates that he was registered by his Grandmother. The new birth certificate, shown to the public, says it's a TXT file. Perhaps what the White house actually received was a TXT file of his birth certificate, that was altered, for public display. This would account for the obvious photoshopping and layers seen in the 'White House Version' and account for Hawaii saying that it has a 'TXT file". They both know that it was a registered birth by the Grandmother of a child born in Kenya. This is consistent with what the Shrimpton has claimed, what Hawaii states when it says it has a txt file. It's still fraud because the original information states he was born in Kenya, they just omitted this embarrassing truth.

    The interesting thing, to me, is that all the other places you need a birth certificate in life; Going to School, Playing sports, Drivers licenses, School Registration's, Student loans, marriage, Passports, EVERY SINGLE ONE is EITHER MISSING or Locked Down by Lawyers.


  40. CitizenWells,
    Hope your paying attention.

    I suggested, several years ago, that the market collapse in 2008 was an attack.
    It wasn’t my theory, it was stated by several congress people.
    Barney Frank and Chris Dodd ran Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac, Democrats, and ignored warning from the Bush administration.
    The things that happened, massive sell offs of securities, pull out from certain markets, a run on the price of a barrel of Oil, this all started August/September of 2008. This appears to have been a coordinated effort by enemies of the United States. This effort was done to damage the market AND to get Barack Obama elected.

    The Democrats helped, profited, and came to power because of this attack. This includes Barack Obama. This information was NEVER discussed openly until NOW. This is because Barack Obama was put into power by our enemies, as leader of a political party that has conspired with America’s enemies.

    Obama and the Socialist Democrats are in bed with Russia and Putin. They are destroying the United States socially (LBJC), militarily (cutbacks), economically(your article, this, and high taxes), and politically (divisions and probable convention of states coming). The chaos is deliberate. Ever ask yourself why all of America’s enemies love Democrats?


  41. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  42. citizenwells

    ” The first turn to the west that diverted the missing Malaysia Airlines plane from its planned flight path from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing was carried out through a computer system that was most likely programmed by someone in the plane’s cockpit who was knowledgeable about airplane systems, according to senior American officials.

    Instead of manually operating the plane’s controls, whoever altered Flight 370’s path typed seven or eight keystrokes into a computer on a knee-high pedestal between the captain and the first officer, according to officials. The Flight Management System, as the computer is known, directs the plane from point to point specified in the flight plan submitted before a flight. It is not clear whether the plane’s path was reprogrammed before or after it took off.”

  43. Observer…….
    Here is an intelligent person who is telling it like it is,and she doesn’t give a damn what anybody else thinks….simply because she KNOWS HER OWN MIND, and it was given to her by God. My sympathies exactly. I congratulate her for being a black who thinks for herself. Three cheers for her!

  44. Observer…..
    If I didn’t know better I would think she is a sibling of mine. har har

  45. Cw……
    While there was plenty of time for reprogramming the on board computer while still on the ground, I largely believe that it was done soon after the aircraft reached it’s service altitude(35,000)ft. Then it was not long thereafter when the alleged turn took place. However I still have my doubts that the turn was programmed into the computer system. Pilots generally use manual flight operation to execute abrupt rate turns. Of course this is still speculation. I know that if I had been in that aircraft and flying it I would not have even programmed the turn into the computer at all. What is programmed into the computer also goes into the flight recorder. Also I would be questioning the skill level of the radar operators who allegedly saw the plane on their military radar system flying in a southeasterly direction. They could have been looking at another aircraft, and simply assumed that it was flight 370. There was allegedly two other inbound aircraft coming from the northwest, and steering south by east. These two aircraft have NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED as to whether they were military or civilian airplanes, but they were nonetheless close enough to be mistaken for 370. This is the basis I offer as to why we should not take the skill level of the radar operator into account. While serving in the Navy I constantly heard stories about the radar operators MISTAKES.

  46. citizenwells

    Not a radar expert, but doesn’t evaluating radar blips have a context?
    Early example, Japanese planes seen on radar approaching HI in WWII.

  47. CW………
    Even though a lot of time has passed I still think that if the airplane was hijacked that the hijackers were unable to fly the airplane to their planned destination. After all here is an aircraft which with a full load of fuel,and a full load of passengers, weighs over 600,000 lbs. This airplane will NOT be able to land successfully on a 1000 ft dirt and grass airstrip in the middle of the jungle. It requires a heavily reinforced paved runway at least 5000 ft long in order to successfully land. Only a few such facilities exist,and only at PRINCIPLE cities within the 2500 mile service radius of the
    777. When you count these facilities,you will see that there are only a handfull. I personally believe that the aircraft was either deliberately flown into the sea,or it ran out of fuel before it could land and fell into the sea. Either way we may never know what actually happened.

  48. citizenwells

    “Thailand’s military says its radar detected a plane that may have been Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 just minutes after the missing jetliner’s communications went down, and that it didn’t share the information earlier because it wasn’t specifically asked for it.”

  49. All,
    This guy may have an important clue relative to how Flight 370 disappeared. //Michigan-Patriot

  50. Now this:

    Maldives ‘witnesses’ report seeing ‘low flying jet’ on morning that MH370 disappeared – follow latest updates on missing Malaysia Airlines plane

    13.52 Reports from a Maldives news organisation that islanders saw a “low flying jumbo jet”. The Haveeru news website reports witnesses saw a plane flying low at around 6.15am on March 8. It was apparently flying north to south-east. A witness told the news organisation

    Quote I’ve never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We’ve seen seaplanes, but I’m sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly.

    It’s not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the tremendous noise too.

    12.46 Intriguing new line from The Malay Mail Online.

    Police scouring Capt Shah’s flight simulator – which he installed in his home – have found five Indian Ocean practice runways.

    One is in the Maldives.

    One is on Diego Garcia.

    The other three are in India and Sri Lanka.


    This is happening all over America….all this grief being brought upon average citizens by this demon called OBAMACARE…..SHAME ON EVERYONE WHO HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH CREATING OR IMPLEMENTING THIS UNFAIR ACT AS LAW….and Mr. Obama may you rot in hell for what you have brought upon the people of this nation…..

  52. OBSERVER….

    If Obama has his fingers on that missing jet liner….then the best bet would be Diego Garcia….American controlled island with long runway to handle big jet planes…..that would be my guess..

    that’s where all the US bombers fly out of on their middle eastern bombing runs……

  53. Thornton Parsons

    I think the jetliner landed on a carrier in the Indian Ocean. Who has a carrier large enough to accommodate a triple 7? My guess would be China.

  54. Also it’s been theorized that the plane, if witnessed in the area of Maldives, could possibly be heading to Somalia…..another lovely exotic vacation destination!!

  55. VICTORY: Idaho’s legislature held an emergency session and voted to nullify federal gun control. This is a huge blow to Obama’s anti-gun agenda.

  56. Like the identification documents for the usurper?

    And now this from “the most transparent administration in history.”
    ‘Most transparent’ White House ever rewrote the FOIA to suppress politically sensitive docs

  57. Pic of The Day: Obama Looking Choomed Out Again…

    “Or maybe he’s tired, he obviously works very hard at being the worst president in history.”


    Obamacare Lies

    Obamacare is a travesty
    Forced down our throats by his majesty.
    Lied to us from the very first day
    Just take a pain pill and go away.

    Liberals continue to lie to us
    And says Obamacare is a definite must.
    A ‘death panel’ does not truly exist
    Another LIE from this socialist.

    Another LIE we all can see
    That it will cost less for you and me.
    Prices have doubled and tripled for us
    Continued LIES from this socialist.

    Doctors are leaving due to this mess
    Causing the elderly and all undue stress.
    Millions have lost their health care plan
    Due to the LIES from this corrupt man.

    America no longer the ‘land of the free’
    Due to Obama and the dem party !
    The dem party ceased to exist
    Replaced with the lies of socialists !!

    Have we become sheep in this once great land
    To be dictated too by a corrupt socialist man?
    Millions need to descend on DC
    Take America back from this tyranny !

    John D USN RVN 71, 72, 73, evac 75
    Right On John…right on….

  59. RMinNC,

    I have a new joke of the day, I’ll send it to you via email.

  60. Obama White House Quietly Amended Rules Regarding the Freedom of Information Act: Report

    In a move that went little noticed in 2009, the White House quietly amended portions of the Freedom of Information Act, making it more difficult for Americans to request public documents for review.

    The FOIA change came in an April 15, 2009, memo from then-White House Counsel Greg Craig, according to the Washington Examiner, citing a new report from Washington-based watchdog group Cause of Action.

    In the memo, Craig instructed the executive branch to let Obama administration officials review all documents sought under FOIA requests to determine if said documents involved “White House equities.”

    However, nowhere in the FOIA does it say that White House officials can withhold certain documents for further review, meaning that the Obama administration effectively altered the law to justify burying public documents, the Washington Examiner notes.

  61. CW……re 10:11 AM
    I personally suspect the actual validity of the military radar op’s as to what he actually saw. You are right about the Pearl Harbor incident. A radar operator who was only using the radar on that Sunday morning,to improve his overall ability. He pinpointed a number of blips all in close proximity with each other. He thought it was aircraft flying in formation.and coming toward Pearl from the Northwest, he tried to get the attention of the CO,but he was NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY. The CO poopooed it all, and the rest is history. Yet this is one of the reasons why I am suspicious. Perhaps it wasn’t the skill level of the operator, at all rather the disbelief of an officer that he might have informed.

  62. Obama Hasn’t Changed Since Columbia University
    Wayne Allyn Root

    Barack Obama is exactly the same today as he was as a student at Columbia thirty years ago: arrogant and egotistical. He’s either too lazy, or thinks he’s too smart to have to actually do the work expected of him. Nothing has changed in 30 years.

    ……..So what was important in Obama’s life? Golf & fundraisers., the non-partisan fact checker, confirmed our president golfed 10 times and attended 106 fundraisers during just the original six-month period where he could find no time, or interest, to attend even one meeting of his own Jobs Council. Can you imagine the updated numbers for the full year?

    And, where was he the night of the Benghazi attack? Both Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Martin Dempsey testified Obama was absent that night.
    RED MORE…….

  63. ……..I would doubt very seriously that a 777 could have landed on an aircraft carrier. The carrier would have to be at least a mile long, and would have no operational bridge above the flight deck. The wings of the 777 would hang out over the water on both sides of the carrier by about 50′ on each side of the ship. If the carrier had superstructure one wing of the 77 would strike the base of the superstructure. In addition there would be NO FUNCTIONAL arresting cables, that would even slow down a 600,000 lb 777. In addition the landing gear on a 777 would never withstand the sudden drop to the flight deck. Any attempt by anybody to land a 777 on even one of our largest carriers would turn into a real tragedy.

  64. BTW the 777 has a wing tip to wingtip span of just a whisker shy of 200′ (197)’ to be more exact!

  65. Barack Obama has shown himself to be an enemy of the American people through his constant violations of the Second Amendment. Please spread this and SHARE it.

    This is why it is vital that the impeachment movement continues to grow… he has betrayed his oath, is destroying our rights, and must be removed from office. Period.

  66. Great Article. Great Thread.

    I stand with Terry Lakin. May justice prevail. ~ Joan of Arc was burnt at the stake and then canonized.

    I am always so glad to see him remembered.

  67. This is a disgrace!

    US Military Puts On Gay & Lesbian Drag Show: Are We Now A Global Joke?
    Matt Barber, March 17, 2014

    Matt Barber says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ has become ‘do tell, do flaunt’

  68. “Obamacare”. it makes me wretch.

    It stole my American birth right. I was born free to choose and to be left alone. Its unConstitutional on its face and it obliterates the Declaration of Independence and renders it moot.

    What if they had Obamacare and nobody came? It should be ignored.

  69. Mitt Romney just published a viral editorial in the Wall Street Journal, saying that Obama and Clinton both represent “failed leadership.”

    He is COMPLETELY right. America doesn’t need the Clintons and we don’t need the Obamas. Time for both to go.


  71. RMinNC | March 18, 2014 at 8:27 pm |
    I can’t remember.

  72. People having fun with images or ……?

    Is this missing Flight MH370? Satellite image apparently showing white-painted plane among jungle is posted on website which lets ordinary people help solve the Malaysian Airlines mystery

    A satellite image appears to show the missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 in the skies above a jungle.

    The image is taken from Tomnod, the map search website currently being used by hundreds of thousands of people in an attempt to search for missing passenger plane, and was posted on Reddit on Sunday.

    The authenticity of the photo has not yet been verified and the region depicted in the photo is as yet unknown. Intriguingly, the plane appears to have been painted white.

    The image was found by an university student in Taiwan, according to Taiwan’s China Times.

    The image has surfaced at the same time as the news that Malaysian villagers claim to have seen the missing Malaysian Airlines jet flying over the north east of the country at around the time the aircraft is thought to have made a ‘U-turn’.

    At least nine people – tuna fishermen, farmers and villagers – in Kelantan have made reports to police about seeing lights in the sky and some said they heard the loud noise of an engine.

    These accounts appear to match the conclusions of investigators who say the jet flew low to avoid radar after making a sharp turn and heading west from its course over the South China Sea.

    Investigators told the New Straits Times that they were now convinced the aircraft flow low over the village, which is in the north east – exactly the same area where the villagers and fishermen who saw bright lights in the sky and heard noises on the night the jet vanished are living.

    Read more:
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  73. Lance Bass thinks there has already been a president who has had sex with a man. Well duh! Ask Larry Sinclair! C’mon Lance, get with it!

  74. America just bought airport not to long ago in one of area plane could be this article and condition america have when they bought this air port . This is strange must read this could this be where the plane is.

  75. Could the plane be in Iran after flying over the Maldives?

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