Serco top Obamacare contract recipient being investigated by British government, Chief executive quits, Number 2 Obamacare recipient CGI embroiled in controversy and possible crony capitalism

Serco top Obamacare contract recipient being investigated by British government, Chief executive quits, Number 2 Obamacare recipient CGI embroiled in controversy and possible crony capitalism

“Public records indicate that during this time, every quarter from 2010 through 2012, CGI Group itself was lobbying on “HUD housing management contracts.”
Finally, there’s also a whistleblower lawsuit from a former CGI employee — who’d been recruited from HUD after overseeing the very Section 8 contracts CGI won — alleging that he was fired after refusing to go along with fraudulent plans to work around the bidding process. CGI denies the accusations, but has so far failed to get the case thrown out.”…Washington Post October 23, 2013

“Why was Obama promoting Capri Capital and other investment firms at the same time that Rezko, Levine and Cellini were shaking them down?”…Citizen Wells

“Now, I don’t get upset when foreign and national journalists fail to mention Tony Rezko, or the Daley boys, or how the Chicago machine plans to staff the Department of Justice, and the new Department of Homeland Casinos.”…John Kass, Chicago Tribune July 30, 2008

 

Serco, the apparent top dollar contract recipient of Obamacare, is being investigated by the British Government.

From Reuters October 25, 2013.

“Serco boss quits as firm seeks new start after scandals”

“The chief executive of outsourcing firm Serco has quit as part of a major reorganisation aimed at rebuilding its reputation with its biggest customer, the British government, following a series of scandals.

The UK government, which accounts for about 25 percent of Serco’s revenue, said in July it would not award the firm or rival G4S any new contracts pending a review of existing ones, after an audit discovered they had charged for tagging criminals who were dead, in prison or not being monitored.

The scandal has intensified the debate in Britain over the outsourcing of public services to profit-driven private firms – a key strategy to reduce government spending, but which has also led to a string of embarrassments, such as when G4S failed to supply enough security staff for the 2012 London Olympics.”

“It is due to appear in the U.S. House of Representatives to explain its part in the troubled rollout of the “Obamacare” healthcare laws, though it is not accused of any wrongdoing.”

Read more:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/25/us-serco-idUSBRE99O0DD20131025

From Free Republic October 20, 2013.

“Here is a list of contractors that received over $1 million in Obamacare contracts.”

obamacarecontractors1

Read more:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3081260/posts

Of course, CGI, the apparent number 2 recipient of Obamacare contract dollars (for now), is also embroiled in controversies.

From Citizen Wells October 25, 2013.

“Is this another case of Barack and Michelle Obama involved in crony capitalism or just poor judgement?

Toni McCall Townes-Whitley, who was in Michelle Obama’s class at princeton, is a Senior VP at CGI.”

Read more:

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2013/10/25/cgi-obamacare-website-contract-obamas-barack-michelle-crony-capitalism-or-poor-judgement-toni-mccall-townes-whitley-senior-vp-cgi-and-michelle-obama-princeton-alumnus/

 

 

 

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57 responses to “Serco top Obamacare contract recipient being investigated by British government, Chief executive quits, Number 2 Obamacare recipient CGI embroiled in controversy and possible crony capitalism

  1. From prior post.

    bob strauss:

    Link to my post above.

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/10/document-expert-identifies-obama-forger.html

    James:

    Benghazi: 60 Minutes Video http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/10/cbs-news-drops-benghazi-bomb-on-obama.html

    Jonah:

    Bob and James,
    RE:
    Under Seal: Document Expert Identifies Obama BC Forger; Media Complicit
    AND
    Benghazi: 60 Minutes Video – – –

    The heat is on so NOW the Obama’s decide to go to church giving the impression they are Christians. We are all aware of the hypocrisy………….

    President Obama and his family attended Sunday services at St. John’s Episcopal Church, which is across Lafayette Park from the White House.

    It is a day for reflection, not politics.

    When a pool reporter asked if the Obamacare website can be fixed by the end of November, Obama responded: “C’mon guys. I’m going to church.”

    During the service, seminarian Sarah Taylor offered prayers “for Barack, our president, the leaders of Congress, the Supreme Court, and all who are in authority, for Afghanistan, and the Middle East, for this community, the nation and the world.”

    After church, in the afternoon, Obama took a motorcade to Fort Belvoir, Va., for a round of golf.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/10/27/obama-barack-michelle-malia-sasha-st-johns/3280709/

    Citizenwells:

    “Detroit Pensioners Face Miserable 16 Cent On The Dollar Recovery”

    “Starting with Detroit, where as Reuters reports, the recovery to pensioners, retirees and all other unsecured creditors will be…. 16 cents on the dollar!… or less than what Greek bondholders got in the country’s latest (and certainly not final) bankruptcy.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-27/detroit-pensioners-face-miserable-16-cent-dollar-recovery

    However, less reported is Chicago’s problem:

    “Corporations are moving in, and housing prices are looking better across the region. There has been a slight uptick in population. But a crushing problem lurks beneath the signs of economic recovery in Chicago: one of the most poorly funded pension systems among the nation’s major cities. Its plight threatens to upend the finances of President Obama’s hometown, now run by his former chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel.

    The pension fund for retired Chicago teachers stands at risk of collapse. The city’s four funds for other retired city workers are short by $19.5 billion. At least one of the funds is in peril of running out of money in less than a decade. And starting in 2015, the city will be required by the state to make far larger contributions to the funds, which could leave it hundreds of millions of dollars in the red — as much as it would cost to pay 4,300 police officers to patrol the streets for a year.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/06/us/chicago-sees-pension-crisis-drawing-near.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2&

    Did I mention crony capitalism?

    Obama, et al, helped create this mess.

  2. “Home Sales Collapse At Fastest Rate In 40 Months; Stocks Spike”

    “Despite Joe Lavorgna’s seemingly gigantic cognitive dissonance in the face of this report, the pending home sales data collapsed in September (and remember this is before the shutdown and was heralded at the time as buyers rushing to buy before the risk of the shutdown slowed acceptances). Affordability, argued by some serial extrapolators as still being ‘relatively’ positive – has drastically weighed on housing at the margin just as we argued previously. This is the first annual drop in 29 months, the biggest drop in 40 months, and the biggest miss against expectations in 40 months. Even the typically full of spin, NAR Chief economist had to admit “this tells us to expect lower home sales for the fourth quarter, with a flat trend going into 2014.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-28/home-sales-collapse-fastest-rate-40-months

  3. October 27, 2012

    “Obama’s Life Narrative (Lie) is Changed at Will and as Needed. Obama is the Liar-in-Chief. He is Unfit for Command!”

    “Obama’s life-time Modus Operandi (M.O.) is to lie at will. Obama changes his life narrative (Lies) to accommodate his current situation and political agenda. And he gets away with it because of a willing, enabling, and sycophantic Main Stream Media and Press. Obama is a gas-lighted, perception-managed fraud. I don’t think at times he himself knows who he really is … but only who he thinks he is at that moment in time. See this report — Obama Then Compared to Obama Now – Some Examples:

    And if you wish to read more about Obama’s enigmatic life and life narrative, read this essay — Can it All Be a Coincidence … or … It Just Happened, by Don Fredrick:”

    http://www.colony14.net/id668.html
    —–
    http://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2013/10/27/obamas-life-narrative-lie-is-changed-at-will-and-as-needed-the-liar-in-chief/
    ===============
    The video:

    From >>> October 12, 2012

    From >>> October 26, 2012:

    “Don Fredrick – The Obama Timeline”

    Mark Gillar:

    “Don Frederick stops by to discuss his new book – The Obama Timeline. I’ve read many books on Obama’s various eligibility issues and worked directly with Sheriff Arpio’s Cold Case Posse. I can tell you that you will find things in this book you hadn’t heard before.”

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/markgillar/2012/10/26/don-fredricks–the-obama-timeline

  4. Must Read. Add another Five (5) billion to the list above. Obamacare: “Early Retirement”, section. A comprehensive listing of profitable Corperations (payoffs) from U.S. taxpayer’s (Medicare)that falls back onto U.S. taxpayer’s. http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/obamacare-appropriations-billions-taxpayer-dollars-werent-told-even-passed-law

  5. October 28, 2013

    Sharon Rondeau:

    “Request for Grand Jury Review of Evidence of Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Filed in Washington State”

    “Typesetting expert Douglas Vogt has filed affidavits and a request to present evidence to a specially-empaneled federal grand jury for its review.

    The filing identifies a female (Jane Doe) as having created the forgery of both birth certificates and others as having promulgated propaganda. It claims that a perpetrator provided money to carry out a plan “to place a foreign alien/agent in as President of the United States,” and identifies media executives as having arranged for a reporter to claim that she had seen and touched the raised seal on the long-form birth certificate the day it was posted. Vogt claims that there was no raised seal on the document.”

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/10/affidavit-request-grand-jury-for-obama-forgery.html
    ===============
    TEA Party Power Hour – Mark Gillar

    From >>> March 16, 2013

    “Doug Vogt, a typesetter with over thirty years of experience. gives us a very detailed review of the telltale signs of forgery in Obama’s birth certificate.”

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/markgillar/2013/03/16/expert-predicts-prison-time-for-those-whove-helped-obama

  6. One thing is expressly clear…..WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE RESIDING AT THE WACKY HOUSE, NEITHER OF WHOM ARE LEGALLY WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE. Barry Soetoro is STILL LEGALLY Barry Soetoro. His name has never been legally changed to Barrack H Obama. If his surname is still legally Soetoro,how the hell could Michelle’s surname be Obama? It is clear to me that he was NEVER able to Petition for a name change because HE HAS NO LEGALLY VALID OR CERTIFIABLE BC. When a petition for name change is brought it must be accompanied by a LEGALLY CERTIFIED COPY OF A LEGALLY VALID BC.

  7. ……also when a person wants to get married he/she must present a CERTIFIED COPY of a LEGALLY VALID BC. If Soetoro has no valid BC how the hell could he have ever obtained a legally valid MARRIAGE LICENSE in ILLINOIS?

  8. BTW…………a Justice of the Peace CANNOT LEGALLY ADJUDICATE a name change petition, in most states. It has been said over and over that his name was legally changed to Obama by a JP COURT. Find the JP WHO DID THE NAME CHANGE, and HE CAN BE PROSECUTED for conducting an illegal name change which the JP courts do not have the authority to adjudicate.

  9. ………The Superior Court is where ALL legally petitioned name changes in the US must be adjudicated.

  10. …….Barry Soetoro applied for and received US government foreign student financial assistance when he entered Occidental at LA. It is cxlear that the US government ACCEPTED THE NAME Barry Soetoro,as his legally valid name. It is obvious that at some point between 1980-and the present he began to use the name Barrack H.Obama without it having been legally adjudicated. Since there is no evidence anywhere in the public information domain, or in the Superior Court archives in the US of a legally adjudicated name change Barry Soetoro is still legally Barry Soetoro.

  11. …….in conclusion I ask HOW THE HELL COULD HE HOLD A LEGALLY VALID DRAFT REGISTRATION, WITHOUT A LEGALLY VALID BC, AND HOW THE HELL COULD HE HAVE EVEN BEEN LEGALLY AN ILLINOIS STATE SENATOR

  12. Daily Caller is reporting an ongoing friendship between Michelle Obama and Toni Townes-Whitley…….

    CGI Federal executive spent ‘Christmas with the Obamas’
    Michelle Obama’s relationship with Princeton classmate Toni McCall Townes-Whitley, whose company earned the no-bid contract to design the disastrous Healthcare.Gov Obamacare website, continued after the Obamas moved into the White House .

    Townes-Whitley and her husband even enjoyed “Christmas with the Obamas” at the White House in December 2010, according to a Facebook album created by Townes-Whitley.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/28/cgi-federal-executive-spent-christmas-with-the-obamas/#ixzz2j2zurVFC

    Michelle Obama and CGI Federal executive belonged to student group at Princeton that hosted pro-terrorist speaker
    Michelle Obama was a member of both the OBU and TWC during her time at Princeton (1981-85). Townes-Whitley also belonged to OBU and TWC.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/28/michelle-obama-and-cgi-federal-executive-belonged-to-student-group-at-princeton-that-hosted-pro-terrorist-speaker/#ixzz2j30Z4xPW

  13. bye bye TIME FOR A rest.Have a great Monday everybody! Godbless!

  14. Jonah……..Before I shut down,I would like to add to your comment by saying that there is now some reported connection with Valerie Jarret’s son in law who is employed by CGI. Perhaps it is time for a little more excavationary work with respect to Msssssssssssssss.Jarrett.

  15. oldsailor81

    During an interview Michelle Soetoro said…..”As a single parent” Yes, she said it just like Barry said “my Muslim faith”

  16. From >>> October 27, 2009

    Aaron Klein:

    “Michelle contradicts Obama nativity story”

    “In little noticed remarks, Michelle Obama stated at a public event that her husband’s mother, Ann Dunham, was “very young and very single” when she gave birth to the future U.S. president.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2009/10/114259/

  17. “Obama: “My Muslim Faith””

    Uploaded on September 7, 2008

  18. OT, but very significant! When NBC comes around and publishes this article co-authored by the well-known NBC reporter, Lisa Myers, it is apparent that the LSM is awakening?

    Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance

    http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/28/21213547-obama-admin-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance?lite

  19. Yep. Obama is a Muslim…….

    Op-Ed Columnist
    Obama: Man of the World
    By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
    Published: March 6, 2007
    He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in
    his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype
    Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism —
    if he once studied the Koran with them.
    Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer,
    reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed
    delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr.
    Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on
    Earth at sunset.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=5&oref=slogin&

  20. More documentation that Obama is a Muslim…….

    AP Photo Of Barack Obama’s School Registration In Indonesia As Barry Soetoro And As Indonesian Citizen

    This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy’s religion as Islam.(AP Photo/ Tatan Syuflana)

    http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/08/ap_photo_of_bar_1.php

  21. Interested Bystander

    cabbyaz:

    It is my firm belief that the media KNEW as much as the Administration knew, because we ALL knew, those of us who took the time to educate ourselves on the ACA.

    Good article though, sad fact is that it’s like 4 years too late.

    The immigration bill won’t be any better either, and my fear is, with the Republicans CAVING on the budget and debt limit issues (but they will come up again before next years elections, maybe a couple times), the Democrats are going to gain control of the House again, and then it’s “Katie bar the door”, talk about pork projects.

  22. oldsailor,

    Is there documentation that shows Barrack Obama was legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro? Or did Lolo lie about Barry’s name on the Indonesian school record? I always wondered why Ann sent her son to a Catholic school in Indonesia when they weren’t Catholic. I’m not even sure they were Christian, much less Catholic. Was it because it was the closest school? Or because maybe they spoke English? Or was it because there was no proof that he was an Indonesian citizen and the Catholic schools were lenient in regard to citizenship??

  23. Interested Bystander

    I’d also like to comment that it is my belief that if Obama is “outted” about who he really is, the citizenry would be like:

    “Oh wow…………cool, he got over on us.”

    “Too late to anything about it now……………pass that blunt.”

    The facts and NON facts are out there, all you have to do is educate yourself.

    “Yeah, but how do you explain the TWO birth announcements?”

    The papers got their information from the DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, Obama’s parents NOR grandparents had anything to do with the announcements being in the papers, as the media and Obama would have you believe.

    All Obama’s parents or grandparents did was ensure the Department of Health received a copy of a notification of a live birth, either through the hospital, through the mail, taking it directly to the DoH or if you read the law, it states that you can do it telephonically if needed.

    But why let facts get in the way.

    “Wow, how do you know so much?”

    Because I care dumba##!!!

  24. Interested Bystander

    Jonah,

    All there is is speculation about whether Lolo adopted Barry.

    But oldsailor is correct, IF Lolo adopted Barry, his ORIGINAL birth certificate would be “altered” with the new information, and a NEW “original” would be generated. The original, original would then be sealed.

    Then if Barry changed his name back to Obama, the same thing would have happened, the second original would be altered, the new inormation entered, and a new “original” generated.

    I believe that oldsailor belives that Barry would have had to file in court to get his name changed back to Obama. oldsailor says that the courts were searched and no name change was found.

    Hope that helps.

    As far as the schools go, I thought he attended two schools while in Indonesia.

    And why doesn’t the media ask him why his mom sent him back to Hawaii after such a short time in Indonesia?

    I’d like to know the TRUE answer to that, and Obama hasn’t told the truth for a very long time.

  25. I like your IBneezer avatar, but I must admit it takes some getting used to. It’s a little distracting.

  26. From >>> April 28, 2012

    ladysforest:

    “There used to be an archive maintained by the newspapers that was available to the public. That was “closed” to the public around the same time as the announcements were “discovered”.

    And oh yes, we were able to prove that the stories by both Lori Starfelt and “KOA” about their amazing first ever discoveries of the obama birth announcements were complete fabrications. Why fabricate the story of the discovery if the material is 100% legit?”

    http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/05/28/extra-extra-announcing-obamas-birth/
    ——-
    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/04/cbs-news-video-child-in-hawaii-had.html?showComment=1335631615301#c4342309294843748925
    ==========
    From >>> October 27, 2012

    ladysforest:

    “The material that I collected proved that the images first shown to the world could NOT have originated from the sources/films claimed. Also proved that “Koa” lied about finding their copy in person at the Honolulu State library. BZ’s research detailed how Starfelts and several others, claims about where their copies were sourced from were garbage.”

    http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2012/10/24/trump-to-obama-pretty-please/#comment-7768
    ==========
    From >>> October 27, 2012

    Shawn Glasco:

    “Are Obama’s 1961 Birth Announcements Fake?”

    “Starfelt’s credibility, and thus the credibility of the Advertiser birth announcement, immediately comes into question. Did Starfelt make up the story about births being posted at the end of the week by the Advertiser, or was she misinformed by the Advertiser, the Hawaii Department of Vital Records, or both? There is another confusing detail. The Nordyke twins were born on Saturday, August 5, 1961, in the same hospital Obama was reported to be born in, but their birth announcement appears in the Wednesday, August 16 Advertiser.

    At about the same time as Starfelt’s July 2008 posting, a blogger named “Infidel Granny” posted the same birth announcement image on an AtlasShrugs blog. Infidel Granny claimed to have received her copy in an e-mail from the same nameless research librarian who helped Starfelt from the Hawaii State Library. Infidel Granny briefly resurfaced in 2009 in an AtlasShrugs blog, where she opined, “I sure hope you don’t think I had anything to do with a forgery.”

    The origin of the second birth announcement is even more murky. The best evidence (hat tip: Butterdezillion) is that sometime around August 13, 2008, a Honolulu resident named “Koa” posted the August 14, 1961 Honolulu Star-Bulletin birth announcement on TexasDarlin apparently after she found it herself in the Hawaii State Library. …”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/are_obamas_1961_newspaper_birth_announcements_fake.html
    ==========
    From >>> August 3, 2013

    Adrien Nash:

    “Obama’s Unbelievable Birth Announcements”

    “PS. The reels of microfilm for the days surrounding Obama’s birth are all identical reels from when the microfilm was developed with the lone exception for August 1-15, 1961 which is on a brand of reel completely different from all the others and totally unexplainable.”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/08/america-punkd-proof-obamas-newspaper.html

  27. IB,
    I’m into genealogy and am well aware of alterations to birth certificates and the fact that Hawaii can have more than one “original” birth certificate. I’d like to see the “Official Original” birth certificate that was issued at the time of birth for the child born to Stanley Ann Dunham on August 4, 1961.

    If Obama was never legally adopted by Soetoro there would be no need to file in court to change his name back to Obama. Until we see adoption papers we can not say for sure that Obama was ever legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro. There is rumored that Obama applied and received financial aid as a foreign student but no one has presented documentation. Orly said a lady told her she had proof but it was never brought forth.

    In 1961, if the birth mother was unmarried it is a likely that the child assumed the mother’s last name. It is possible that Obama has two or three or more, altered “official” birth certificates. Baby Dunham. Barrack Obama or Barry Soetoro.

    And it is possible that BO was legally Barry Soetoro and didn’t change back to Barrack Obama until as recent as 2007, the date of the COLB posted on factcheck. And the Lucas Smith BC could be valid also. Remember Hawaii allows births to be recorded even if the birth didn’t take place in Hawaii. There is so much deceit surrounding this man.

    And you are right, BO also attended an Indonesian school for two years following his two years at Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta . Was he legally Barry Soetoro by then and therefore allowed to attend an Indonesian school? Maybe. But I think the Soetoros moved and that’s the reason he changed schools. But still, why did BO attend a Catholic school in the first place?

  28. Jonah………..
    Most that you are saying is a strong possibility, but if he changed his name back to Obamaas late as 2007 he would still have had to do it in the Superior court somewhere in the US, to have it legally adjudicated. I tend to believe that this is all related to the reason why his law license was pulled. He had used another name which was allegedly a legal name. Yes the lady at the student loan facility never came forward PUBLICALLY,but she allegedly did tell Orly Taitz,and later supplied Taitz with documentation regarding the name in which the student loan was made. I personally think that the lady who came forward would not have done so unless she thought that something was horribly wrong at her records archive. She took one hell of a chance,or risk if you will by so doing.

  29. ………and if this is all accurate she is probably STILL A FUTURE TARGET for Soetoro’s GOON SQUAD.

  30. IB……….
    My wife is friends with a lady who legally immigrated from Kenya. She is a LICENSED Practical Nurse and worked with my wife until my wife retired. She revealed some stuff last year to us regarding the Kenyan law surrounding the issue of birth certificates in that country,and what the law WAS WHEN Soetoro was born. She was actually born about 2 years after Soetoro was,but she still was required to APPLY for a DOCUMENT showing the information pertaining to her birth. That said it seems to say that unless a parent asks for a birth record it was NOT AUTOMATICALLY FURNISHED,at the time of her birth. So if Soetoro was actually born in Kenya he might not even have had a document issue either. That is until somebody paid to have it done. ….which most of us know about. My wife’s friend found it necessary to have documentation of her birth before she could legally immigrate to the US.

  31. IB……..
    Based upon what I have learned from some outside sources, you have said everything that the people I asked said. These were the two clerk’s employees, who BTW were both paralegals. One has since received his juris degree,and in the interim has moved up substantially.

  32. ………….and then I keep thinking why the hell would he even have felt it was necessary to put the FIRST documentation on line which Miss Gibbs admitted to doing. If there was no justification then it is very doubtful that Mr.Bauer, or anyone would have been needed to represent Soetoro, and nearly two million dollars would have been saved. When we examine all of the peripherals there is a compelling reason to believe about 99% of what has been uncovered so far by people all over the US, a few of whom have been at it long before Soetoro even ran for office.. However as I have said so many times in the past since there is NO DOCUMENTATION,or the original documentation does not exist thhhe greater portion of what has been learned is to a certain extent EDUCATED GUESSES., but EDUCATED GUESSES have a rather persistent way of becoming fact after a time.

  33. IB ………
    Very good reasoning!

    BYE BYE time to shut her down! Goodnight everybody, have a great day tomorrow! Godbless

  34. Jonah……..
    Before I shut down, I would like to say that you are absolutely right by saying the same thing so many others have said repeatedly. “If he has an ORIGINAL LONG FORM BC issued by Kapiolani them why the hell does he not SHOW IT”? There is no reason for him not to …..unless he DOESN’T HAVE an ORIGINAL FROM KAPIOLANI. He could have saved nearly TWO MILLION dollars in legal fees. HAR HAR Anybody with even a half a brain can figure out that crap. I am not implying you are afflicted as such …I AM TALKING ABOUT MR AMERICA, ON MAIN STREET USA

  35. Jonah………
    Once again, I wish to say that you are absolutely right. Until I see the ORIGINAL photostat copy BC just like those of the Nordyke twins, will I ever believe the Soetoro BULL—- Have a great day tomorrow! You are a grand person!

  36. OBAMA ‘GUTTING MILITARY’ BY PURGING GENERALS
    Intended to send message ‘down through the ranks’

    (nine generals and flag officers this year alone, besides four during first term)

    Retired U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, an outspoken critic of the Obama administration, claims it is part of Obama’s strategy to reduce U.S. standing worldwide.

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/obama-gutting-military-by-purging-generals/#cjQgjerQ5oduMPkV.99

  37. Good morning CW, et. al,

    Here is something interesting, just click on the link…..

    http://www.barrysoetoro.com/

  38. Good morning William, et al.

  39. I wonder who owns that link….

  40. From >>> April 9, 2009

    “See where ‘barrysoetoro.com’ takes you on Internet
    What does website using president’s childhood moniker mean?”

    http://www.wnd.com/2009/04/94484/
    ===============
    From >>> June 9, 2012

    “‘Birthers,’ you’ve been punked
    Rumors fly as phony website suggests ‘Barry Soetoro’ sits in White House”

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/birthers-youve-been-punked-2/

  41. “”Obama built that”… And now good luck tearing it down and its several hundred million lines of code, and rebuilding it from scratch.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-28/obama-built-behold-obamacare-all-its-lines-code-glory

  42. oldsailor,

    Apparently, the lady at the student loan facility has been silenced since we’ve not heard any more about her since Orly revealed that she had the goods on BO. I wish Orly would have waited to reveal her source until she had the documentation in a secure location.

    There is another scenario in regard to BO’s foreign student status that most people haven’t considered but CW brought it up here a while back. If BO has a Hawaii BC that shows his father is a foreigner then he would have dual citizenship, a subject of Kenya (or the UK) and possibly eligible to receive financial aid as a foreign student under the name Barrack Obama. The name Barry Soetoro may not have been an issue. According to wikipedia:

    In August 2008, the Rocky Mountain News ran an online article asserting that Obama is both a U.S. and a Kenyan citizen. This turned out to be incorrect according to FactCheck.org, which noted that Obama was indeed born a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (CUKC) under British law, by virtue of his descent from a Kenyan father at a time when Kenya was a British colony, but lost CUKC citizenship and became a Kenyan citizen when that country gained independence in 1963. However, Kenya’s constitution prohibits dual citizenship in adulthood. Obama therefore automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship on his 23rd birthday, in 1984, by failing to formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya. Although the paper apologized for the error and published a correction, the article continued to provide fuel for online rumors about Obama’s eligibility for the presidency.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

    Yeah, I know we shouldn’t consider Wikipedia a reliable source but keep in mind that BO would have been 17 or 18 years old in 1979 when and if he applied for a Fulbright scholarship and was STILL a Kenyan citizen. So, CW may be right. Obama could very well have applied and received a Fulbright scholarship as a Kenyan citizen under the name Barrack Hussein Obama. Would this have ramifications in regard to Bo’s American citizenship and the natural born citizen requirement?

  43. October 29, 2013

    Thomas Lifson:

    “Jack Cashill’s If I Had a Son”

    “The definitive account of the conspiracy to send George Zimmerman to prison for the self-defense shooting of Trayvon Martin is reaching bookstores today. …

    At the heart of the effort to inject race into a case that was self-evidently a matter of self defense to the police and prosecutors who in initially investigated is what Cashill labels the Black Grievance Industry, or BGI. Benjamin Crump, a black Tallahhassee attorney who had gained fame and fortune suing on behalf of blacks claiming racial victimization was brought in early by Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father, through personal contacts. Crump assembled what Cashill termed “Team Trayvon,” … They were aided and abetted by key media outlets, from the Orlando Sentinel, which at first reported in a straightforward manner for a local readership and then ran into the BGI, to The New York Times and especially ABC News, which assisted the BGI and Team Trayvon in manufacturing a false narrative, betraying both their journalistic responsibilities and the cause of justice. Inevitably, Al Sharpton quickly leapt into the fray, follolwed by Jesse Jackson, fearful of being cut out.”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/10/jack_cashills_if_i_had_a_son.html

  44. Jonah……………….
    Whether or not Soetoro applied for a Fullbright scholarship is one can of peas,but what was his actual legal status when he applied…..again if he was legally adopted by Lolo( which I happen to believe) it would have made him a citizen of Indonesia and the automatic loss of a Kenyan citizenship wouldn’t matter because he would still have dual citizenship. However I am seriously doubtful that he even possesses a legal citizenship of the US. Yes this is my own personal belief, but there are some clues which though quite old are still valid facets of the possibility. The Kenyan thing is a separate issue with regard to the Indonesian aspect. I also believe much of what Sharon Rondeau has put online. However I have to admit that when we develop a prognosis based upon logic,and simple reasoning,there is always a factor relating to the potential for error..But Commander Kerchner once said that simple logic is hard to beat MOST OF THE TIME..

  45. ……..and I also believe that simple logic,when properly utilised is HARD TO BEAT! Generally speaking,if Soetoro was born in Kenya, his citizenship to that country allegedly ended in the 80s. So that ends any significance which it might carry…..but it does NOT ERASE THE FACT that he was born to a British subject,and under the protectorate laws he to is a British subject. There is NO WAY THAT he can get around that one. ………but because of the insane Hawaiian birth registration laws, Soetoro could have been born on the MOON and he could be considered to be an American citizen.

  46. GORDO | October 28, 2013 at 7:51 pm |
    From >>> August 3, 2013
    Adrien Nash:
    “Obama’s Unbelievable Birth Announcements”

    “PS. The reels of microfilm for the days surrounding Obama’s birth are all identical reels from when the microfilm was developed with the lone exception for August 1-15, 1961 which is on a brand of reel completely different from all the others and totally unexplainable.”
    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/08/america-punkd-proof-obamas-newspaper.html
    =====================
    Gordo,
    Very interesting. I’ve viewed many microfilm reels like those in genealogy searches. It would be easy to take the reel, modify and duplicate, and later return to box without anyone knowing. I’ll pass this on.

  47. ……….Insofar as any legal citizenship to the US that Soetoro MIGHT possess is concerned, I personally look upon this as EXTREMELY DOUBTFUL. To this I point and again refer to the surrender of his law license. Nobody who is in their right mind voluntarily surrenders his/her law licensure…….that is unless there has been some really serious criminal activity detected by the bar association, of a state. I would seriously think that the same reasoning applies to Michelle Robinson as well. The use of an illegal name would be absolute justification for the bar to demand the forteiture of both law licenses.

  48. “Liberal Government Honors Child Molester”

    “Harvey Milk was made famous when Sean Penn starred in the fictional biographic movie of Milk’s life. Before that, he was popular mostly in the gay community and in California politics, as Milk was the first openly gay politician elected to public office. Because of this distinction, Milk has become a pseudo-saint of the leftist gay community. The problem is that not only was Harvey Milk a homosexual, he was a chronic and serial child abuser.

    Randy Shilts was a reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle and a close friend of Milk’s. In his biography of Milk he wrote, “Harvey always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems.” One of those “waifs” was a 16 year old runaway from Maryland who Milk picked up on the streets of San Francisco. Of their relationship Shilts wrote,”… Sixteen-year-old McKinley was looking for some kind of father figure. … At 33, Milk was launching a new life, though he could hardly have imagined the unlikely direction toward which his new lover would pull him.”

    HarveyMilkMore study of the life of Harvey Milk would lead one to learn that this young boy was not the only victim of Harvey Milk’s pederasty. One of the things that drove Harvey Milk was the desire to see America’s traditional cultural and sexual mores completely transformed. He believed that the monogamy expressed in heterosexual lifestyles was not natural to the human experience.”

    http://eaglerising.com/2553/liberal-government-honors-child-molester/#OWlTimBUzr25ivtC.99

  49. Jonah…………..re 10:39AM
    I would agree to that 100%, but I would hasten to add that a trained document examiner would know what to look for in any “clipped” joints within the background of the microfilm. Hint…….there is ALWAYS an undiscernable hairline where the prior microfilm was CLIPPED. This is simply because there is a minute surface which refracts light, even as a hairline. When this happens it causes a microscopic black line at the joint. I have personally dealt with this phenonema when operating a lithographic copy camers. the cut end of the joint does not reflect the same amount of light as the rest of the copy,and as such it causes a different level of development at that line. We see this on a more pronounced level when the copy artist uses an exacto knife to crop a photograph which will be screened into a halftone. Very often there is a very fine black hairline.. In the screening process much of the hairline is disseminated.,and becoimes almost invisible. to the naked eye.

  50. Now days the screening of halftones is done electronically. We no longer refer to lines per inch,we talk of PIXELS now. The electronics used today in the lithographic procedure have taken photograph resolution, to a whole new level ,and made the reproductions contain very fine detail,as well as color resolution. I recently went over to my son’s business place and watched as he electronically printed some color brochures. The product was really fine and when I looked at it through my OLD magnifying glass it nearly blew me away . The detail and sharpness was way beyond anfthing which I used to produce.He is doing quite well.

  51. “Extra, Extra, Announcing obama’s Birth”

    “New August 2013 material at the bottom of post”

    “This blog post is about the research I have done into the history, microfilms and stories connected to the newspaper birth announcements of obama’s birth.”

    “UPDATE 7/18/2012 UPDATE BELOW”

    “The image below was provided to me a few days ago by GregNH – a reader here. He was in HI, and doing research on an unrelated issue, but noticed a little something unusual:”

    http://myveryownpointofview.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/gregs-film-box.jpg?w=746&h=591
    —–
    http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/05/28/extra-extra-announcing-obamas-birth/
    ==============
    “Round Pegs In Square Holes”

    “This is a well intentioned attempt to abbreviate my post “Extra, Extra, Announcing Obama’s Birth”.

    “*After the first postings of the freshly discovered obama birth announcements, many noticed that the appearance of the obama announcements changed considerably over a short period of time. Much like the COLB did. The examples of this are in the original post,”

    http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/round-pegs-in-square-holes/

  52. oldsailor,

    Yes, forensic examination of the microfilm would reveal if there was any tampering. The microfilm would show signs of wear and tear over fifty years. Old microfilms often have black streaks which likely are slight scratches embedded into the surface. A duplicated microfilm or insert would show a smooth surface.

  53. CW……….
    As you undoubtedly realise I along with a hell of a lot of Americans come from another time in our country. But it isn’t as though we have been BLIND, or ignorant to what is happening all around us. I have watched the alleged “GAY” bastards take over a hell of a lot of our important governmental offices, as well as many community elected offices, and the subsequent changes which these people have pushed into law are laws which PROMOTE HOMOSEXUALITY, and excoriates Christianity. This is only one facet of what is now taking our lives into the caldron. Sadly these MENTALLY TWISTED people are now being seen as HEROS of America,when in actuality they are the CRIMINALS,and menbntally twisted people who are part ,and parcel to the DESTRUCTION of America.

  54. Please forgive typos…..can’t see what I am typing. That combined with fat fingertips does not help either.
    Bye bye everybody…..have a great day,and Godbless

  55. Gordo…………..
    I would be remiss if I didn’t ask why the box marked Aug 1 is a much newer box than the surrounding ones. Since those boxes are still intact I would strongly suspect that there WAS a box similar to the rest of the boxes,but in the process of removing the microfilm spool it was either destroyed or some fool thought that nobody would notice the NEW BOX, which causes me to ask the question why would that specific box need to be replaced to begin with. Har har Shows just how damn stupid the goon squad is

  56. oldsailor81 | October 29, 2013 at 11:45 am |

    Please forgive typos…..can’t see what I am typing.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    If you don’t have reading glasses by now…… then God bless you. You are doing well. I’ve had mine since I was in my mid forties.

  57. WHO CONTROLS SERCO ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco_Group

    SERCO IS WELL CONNECTED WITH THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY.
    1) ” And in their spare time Serco organises the Queen’s flights around the world and makes sure that Greenwich Mean Time is ticking over nicely.”
    ” SERCO has a hand in flights made by almost every passenger from the Queen and Prince Charles to ordinary holidaymakers. It supports the Ministry of Defence at RAF Northolt, the base of the Queen’s Flight and which is regularly used by Prince Charles. ” http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/so-you-thought-it-was-tony-and-gordon-in-charge-580043

    2) ” Mr. Alastair David Lyons, CBE., is Non-Executive Independent Chairman of the Board of Serco Group Plc.”
    ” He was awarded the CBE in the 2001 Queen’s Birthday Honours for services to social security. ”
    http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Directors-and-dealings?s=SRP:LSE

    3) ” Christopher Rajendran Hyman CBE (born 5 July 1963 in Durban, South Africa)[1] was Chief Executive of Serco Group plc from 2002 to October 2013.”
    ” Hyman was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) in the 2010 Birthday Honours for services to business and charity.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hyman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander_of_the_Order_of_the_British_Empire
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/honours-list/7822829/queens-birthday-honours-the-full-list.html

    THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY IS A FRONT OF THE ROTHSCHILDS.
    ” Lord JACOB ROTHSCHILD, the behind-the-scenes controller of the Inter-Alpha Group, was a partner at Rothschild at the time he set up the Inter-Alpha Group in 1971, using its resources and then leaving in 1980 to continue his special mission, which includes advising the genocidal British Crown and managing the funds of Prince Charles’ Duchy of Cornwall, to finance his kooky, “green” schemes.”
    http://unitednationsoffilm.com/?p=1728
    ” Prince Charles already played polo with EVELYN DE ROTHSCHILD in his student years and later set up the Interfaith consultations with him. ”
    http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/people_with_the_endless_bios.htm
    EVELYN DE ROTHSCHILD ” In 1989, he was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II,[2] for whom he serves as a financial adviser. ” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Robert_de_Rothschild
    THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY HAS THE CONTROL OF THE ROYAL BANK OF SCOTLAND. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-charles-dumps-rbs-boss-372885
    BUT THE ROYAL BANK OF SCOTLAND IS RELATED ALSO WITH THE EDMOND DE ROTHSCHILD OWNED BY BENJAMIN DE ROTHSCHILD ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_de_Rothschild ) AND BY HIS WIFE ARIANE DE ROTHSCHILD ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_de_Rothschild ).FOR EXAMPLE THROUGH THE PERSONS OF LAURA SCOLAN AND MARK PHILLIPS,ETC..
    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/laura-scolan/a/ba1/7b7 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mark-phillips/4/5b9/772 http://www.lejdd.fr/Economie/Images/Les-plus-grosses-fortunes-de-France/Benjamin-de-Rothschild-206941
    http://wikimapia.org/6825620/fr/Chateau-de-Pregny http://www.panoramio.com/photo/77169200 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waddesdon http://www.waddesdon.org.uk/ http://www.thefullwiki.org/Waddesdon_Manor http://www.thefullwiki.org/Ascott_House http://www.breathingenglishair.blogspot.fr/2012/04/ascott-house-buckinghamshire.html

    BUT THERE ARE MANY OTHER LINKS BETWEEN SERCO AND THE ROTHSCHILDS………..

    Meet Serco, the private firm getting $1.2 billion to process your Obamacare application
    http://bullionbullscanada.com/bulletin-boards/21-geopolitcal-news-talk/28152-meet-serco

    Serco has seen a large amount of criticism involving its private prisons and detention centres. In particular, the Union of Christmas Island Workers has said about the Christmas Island detention centre, which hosts many refugees as well as 1,000 children who have tried to immigrate into Australia, “Serco’s failure to perform is huge.” Serco has been accused of beating prisoners, not adequately maintaining their physical and mental health, and allowing suicide and self-harm incidents to increase over time. Australian ombudsman Allan Asher said to the Australian radio show AM, “In the first week of June when I visited Christmas Island, more than 30 incidents of self harm by detainees held there were reported.” Serco, in a company memo leaked to The Australian, blamed the detainees for “creating a culture of self harm,” and using it as a “bargaining tool.” Serco has been fined for breaches of contract every month it has managed detention centres in Australia, leading to a total of $4 million in fines in early 2011. Also, Serco’s Christmas Island detention center was reported by its own former manager to be “typically 15 staff members short every day.”
    Serco has also gained criticism for its inefficiency in its pathology labs. Its laboratories in St Thomas’ Hospital saw an increase in the number of clinical incidents, such as patients getting inappropriate blood when their medical history was not flagged by the system or patients’ kidney damage results being calculated incorrectly. A Serco employee later revealed that the company had given false reports to the National Health Service 252 times over its medical services in Cornwall.
    In September 2013, Serco was removed for consideration in a contract in Ireland because of its involvement in a multi-billion pound fraud in Britain.
    In September 2013, Serco was accused of covering up extensive sexual abuse of immigrants at its Yarl’s Wood prison in Bedfordshire, England. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco_Group
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10272109/Serco-staff-investigated-by-police-over-prison-van-fraud.html
    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/serco-vows-fix-british-government-contract-woes-071634299.html http://dearkitty1.wordpress.com/2013/08/23/british-children-ill-treated-in-private-jails/
    http://dearkitty1.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/british-serco-private-prison-scandal/

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