Obama Campaign Backers and Bundlers Rewarded With Green Grants and Loans, David Wilhelm Jonathan Silver et al, Obama Quid Pro Quo equals Chicago pay to play

Obama Campaign Backers and Bundlers Rewarded With Green Grants and Loans, David Wilhelm Jonathan Silver et al, Obama Quid Pro Quo equals Chicago pay to play

“Why has David Wilhelm supported and protected Obama?”…Citizen Wells
“Why was Turning Point Solar, David Wilhelm’s venture, given federal loan guarantees?”…Citizen Wells

“Why were David Wilhelm and Barack Obama not prosecuted for their Operation Board Games involvement?…Citizen Wells

Recently, Patrick J. Kennedy referred to the attention Obama fundraisers received at the White House as Quid Pro Quo. This is another name for Chicago Pay to Play politics.

Obama’s pay to play energy policy, a carryover from his long time Chicago pay to play schemes is far more damaging to this country than the immediate negative economic impact of wasted taxpayer dollars. Obama’s selfish machinations work against legitimate energy initiatives and taint legitimate endeavors that can be implemented in the future. In other words, all green energy initiatives will be guilty by association.

From Citizen Wells April 13, 2012.

“According to Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., Mr. Obama’s incoming White House chief of staff, Emanuel, then-state senator Obama, a third Blagojevich aide, and Blagojevich’s campaign co-chair, David Wilhelm, were the top strategists of Blagojevich’s 2002 gubernatorial victory.

Emanuel told the New Yorker earlier this year that he and Obama “participated in a small group that met weekly when Rod was running for governor. We basically laid out the general election, Barack and I and these two.”
“The man who served as national manager of former President Clinton’s 1992 campaign endorsed Sen. Barack Obama on Wednesday.
David Wilhelm, who led the campaign and later became chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said Obama had the unique ability to encourage cooperation as a 65-percent president after the divisive years of a 51-percent majority. He was referring to the notion that Obama could govern the country with the support of a large coalition, as opposed to more polarized support for President Bush.

Wilhelm is a superdelegate who was previously uncommitted in the race. His endorsement helps Obama in the delegate race, in which he pulled ahead after Tuesday’s sweeps of primaries in Virginia, Maryland and the District of Columbia.”

“Persuading superdelegates to back Obama will be a crucial role for Wilhelm in the Obama campaign, he said.”

“Huge solar panel farm coming to southeast Ohio”

“The field will be built and owned by Turning Point Solar LLC, a joint venture of New Harvest Ventures of Ohio and Agile Energy LLC of California.

The cost of the solar field will be about $250 million, said David Wilhelm, a principal in New Harvest. The project will depend on state and federal tax credits, federal loan guarantees and a state advanced energy grant.”


David Wilhelm is one of many Obama Cronies to be rewarded.

From The Daily Beast Nov 12, 2011.

“Obama Campaign Backers and Bundlers Rewarded With Green Grants and Loans”

“When President-elect Obama came to Washington in late 2008, he was outspoken about the need for an economic stimulus to revive a struggling economy. He wanted billions of dollars spent on “shovel-ready projects” to build roads; billions more for developing alternative-energy projects; and additional billions for expanding broadband Internet access and creating a “smart grid” for energy consumption. After he was sworn in as president, he proclaimed that taxpayer money would assuredly not be doled out to political friends. “Decisions about how Recovery Act dollars are spent will be based on the merits,” he said, referring to the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. “Let me repeat that: decisions about how recovery money will be spent will be based on the merits. They will not be made as a way of doing favors for lobbyists.”


It would take an entire book to analyze every single grant and government-backed loan doled out since Barack Obama became president. But an examination of grants and guaranteed loans offered by just one stimulus program run by the Department of Energy, for alternative-energy projects, is stunning. The so-called 1705 Loan Guarantee Program and the 1603 Grant Program channeled billions of dollars to all sorts of energy companies. The grants were earmarked for alternative-fuel and green-power projects, so it would not be a surprise to learn that those industries were led by liberals. Furthermore, these were highly competitive grant and loan programs—not usually a hallmark of cronyism. Often fewer than 10 percent of applicants were deemed worthy.

Nevertheless, a large proportion of the winners were companies with Obama-campaign connections. Indeed, at least 10 members of Obama’s finance committee and more than a dozen of his campaign bundlers were big winners in getting your money. At the same time, several politicians who supported Obama managed to strike gold by launching alternative-energy companies and obtaining grants. How much did they get? According to the Department of Energy’s own numbers … a lot. In the 1705 government-backed-loan program, for example, $16.4 billion of the $20.5 billion in loans granted as of Sept. 15 went to companies either run by or primarily owned by Obama financial backers—individuals who were bundlers, members of Obama’s National Finance Committee, or large donors to the Democratic Party. The grant and guaranteed-loan recipients were early backers of Obama before he ran for president, people who continued to give to his campaigns and exclusively to the Democratic Party in the years leading up to 2008. Their political largesse is probably the best investment they ever made in alternative energy. It brought them returns many times over.

These government grants and loan guarantees not only provided access to taxpayer capital. They also served as a seal of approval from the federal government. Taxpayer money creates what investors call a “halo effect,” in which a young, unprofitable company is suddenly seen to have a glowing future. The plan is simple. Invest some money, secure taxpayer grants and loans, go public, and then cash out. In just one small example, a company called Amyris Biotechnologies received a $24 million DOE grant to build a pilot plant to use altered yeast to turn sugar into hydrocarbons. The investors included several Obama bundlers and fundraisers. With federal money in hand, Amyris went public with an IPO the following year, raising $85 million. Kleiner Perkins, a firm that boasts Obama financier John Doerr and former vice president Al Gore as partners, found its $16 million investment was now worth $69 million. It’s not clear how the other investors did. Amyris continues to lose money. Meanwhile, the $24 million grant created 40 jobs, according to the government website recovery.gov.

One might think that the Department of Energy’s Loan Program Office, which has doled out billions in taxpayer-guaranteed loans, would be directed by a dedicated scientist or engineer. Or perhaps a civil servant with considerable financial knowledge. Instead, the department’s loan and grant programs are run by partisans who were responsible for raising money during the Obama campaign from the same people who later came to seek government loans and grants. Steve Spinner, who served on the Obama campaign’s National Finance Committee and was a bundler himself, was the campaign’s “liaison to Silicon Valley.” His responsibilities included fundraising, recruiting more bundlers, and managing Obama’s relationship with a cadre of very wealthy donors. After the 2008 campaign, Spinner joined the Department of Energy as the “chief strategic operations officer” for the loan programs. A lot of the money he helped hand out went to that same cadre of wealthy Silicon Valley campaign donors. He also sat on the White House Business Council, which is made up of Obama-supporting corporate executives.

Another Obama fundraiser positioned to lead the allocation of taxpayer money to Obama contributors was Sanjay Wagle, who served as the managing co-chairman of Cleantech & Green Business Leaders for Obama. Wagle’s day job was as a principal at VantagePoint Venture Partners. After the 2008 election, Wagle joined the Obama administration as a “renewable energy grants adviser” at the Department of Energy. VantagePoint owned firms that would later see federal loan guarantees roll in.

Jonathan Silver, who would serve as director of the loan programs, had worked in the Clinton administration, first as counselor to the secretary of the interior and later as assistant deputy secretary in the Department of Commerce. Silver’s wife has served as financial director of the Democratic Leadership Council. His business partner, Tom Wheeler, was an Obama bundler, and Wheeler’s wife was an outreach coordinator for the campaign. Silver’s “strategic adviser” was Steve Spinner.

The grants themselves originated in the office of Cathy Zoi, who served as the assistant secretary of energy for efficiency and renewable energy. (Wagle was her adviser.) Zoi had previously worked in the Clinton White House as the chief of staff on environmental policy, then as the CEO of Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection. You may be thinking, “So what? Why would we expect anything less of political appointees?” But the numbers don’t lie: the recipients of loans and grants were, overwhelmingly, Obama cronies.

The Government Accountability Office has been highly critical of the way guaranteed loans and grants were doled out by the Department of Energy, complaining that the process appears “arbitrary” and lacks transparency. In March 2011, for example, the GAO examined the first 18 loans that were approved and found that none were properly documented. It also noted that officials “did not always record the results of analysis” of these applications. A loan program for electric cars, for example, “lacks performance measures.” No notes were kept during the review process, so it is difficult to determine how loan decisions were made. The GAO further declared that the Department of Energy “had treated applicants inconsistently in the application review process, favoring some applicants and disadvantaging others.” The Department of Energy’s inspector general, Gregory Friedman, who was not a political appointee, chastised the alternative-energy loan and grant programs for their absence of “sufficient transparency and accountability.” He has testified that contracts have been steered to “friends and family.”

Friends indeed. These programs might be the greatest—and most expensive—example of crony capitalism in American history. Tens of billions of dollars went to firms controlled or owned by fundraisers, bundlers, and political allies, many of whom—surprise!—are now raising money for Obama again.”



98 responses to “Obama Campaign Backers and Bundlers Rewarded With Green Grants and Loans, David Wilhelm Jonathan Silver et al, Obama Quid Pro Quo equals Chicago pay to play

  1. As a former fan of Hillary Clinton’s, let me say her drinking in Columbia is not okay.

  2. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    OT – At 12:30 PMEDT on C-span3 Cong. Darrell Issa will be having a hearing on the GSA scandals.
    Remember Ronald Reagan’s most famous quote – “The ten most dangerous words are, ‘I am from the government and I am here to help you!!'”

  3. November 12, 2003
    “A foreign-born president?”
    “Mr. Hatch acknowledges what most scholars regard as the reason the Framers denied eligibility to naturalized citizens: concern that a foreign power might place someone inside the young and fragile nation and contrive to have that person elected president.
    But that concern, says Mr. Hatch, is hardly so compelling today. And so, he argues, the natural-born requirement shouldn’t be allowed to stand, especially not since it works in what the senator calls a “decidedly un-American” manner. By which he means that it’s unfair to naturalized citizens, because they are denied an “equal opportunity” to run for president; and unfair to us voters, because we are denied “every opportunity to choose” our leaders. Not surprisingly, Mr. Hatch calls his proposal the “Equal Opportunity to Govern” amendment.”
    “Sen. Hatch on Natural Born Citizenship 8/4/2009”



    CW and all Patriots, I mean all Administrators/Beneficiaries/Executors !

    This is how we stop Obama/Congress/Senators/Judges Immediately from what they are doing to the country.

    It’s the Holy Trinity …. Why did the Founders carve “In God We Trust” on all the buildings in DC and the State Capitols? Because the whole country, including the courts was set up as a TRUST from the beginning. The Constitution is a TRUST agreement.

    Executor-Beneficiary-Trustee = God-We The People-Government

    *************************** THIS IS THE HOLY TRINITY *********************

    We are the Beneficiaries of the Last Living Will and Testament of God, the Holy Bible, which is rooted in Trust Law. The Founders knew this; they set the country up (inspired by God himself) as a TRUST agreement between us and those we would elect into office; this ensured we had the proper authority as Executors to stop them in their tracks if they got out of line.

    This is why Congress, the Courts, etc. won’t do what we tell them to do; because they are using the Trust Laws in the courts and treating us as the Trustees of the corporation by trickery and deceit.


    We can’t get a court case heard or acted on against the usurper because as soon as we walk into court, the judges are contracting with us and treating us like Trustees of the Corporation instead of the Executors/Beneficiaries/Administrators that we are !!! We cannot use lawyers to bring cases against the usurper or congress because hiring an attorney labels us as incompetent right from the get-go and bumps us into the Trustee position of the Trust agreement.

    We someone brings a case against Obama or the Congress and walks into court and the judge says “John Doe” are you hear in the court to bring charges against Obama/Congress, and we say “Yes your honor, that is me”, you just contracted with the court and bumped yourself down to the Trustee position of the Trust (The Constitution).

    URGENT **************** BREAKING NEWS ************** URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can’t explain it all here, but if you guys will go to this link and read what is REALLY happening, you’ll see the light.


    Now if someone brings a case against Obama, it will be heard and tried, because we are going to stop acting like the Trustees of the “TRUST Agreement” for the corporation and walk into court as the Administrators/Executors/Beneficiaries instead.

    Why do you think these judges go ape $hit crazy when someone walks into court and appoints the judge the Trustee? Because that’s how it’s supposed to be and they have to abide by it; it’s Trust Law and the whole country was setup as a TRUST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is why they are trying to get rid of the Sheriff: He’s the only one in the Constitution who has the legal authority to make sure the demands of the Executors/Administrators/Beneficiaries of the Trust are carried out by the Trustees ………. Obama/Congress/Senate/Courts are the Trustees and we are the Beneficiaries of the Trust Agreement aka US Constitution.

    Please Lord let the People see and act NOW! Spread the above link far and wide TODAY; we can stop them dead in their tracks by playing our proper role as the Administrators of the Trust.

    We can get a court case on Obama heard TODAY !!!

  5. I get the impression that Obama and his entorage went to Columbia to “party hearty” and pick up a fresh load of high grade Cocain for future parties in DC.

    Obama is the USA’s number one criminal, and law enforcement is frozen in place, and doing nothing.

  6. jacqlynsmith

    This video needs to be seen by every AMERICAN citizen….pass it far and wide….there’s only ONE person running who is standing with WE THE PEOPLE…..

    EPIC Ron Paul ad-DEMOLISHES Obama and Romney.mp4

  7. jacqlynsmith

    OOPS…..here’s the link…..

    EPIC Ron Paul ad-DEMOLISHES Obama and Romney.mp4

  8. The South | April 16, 2012 at 12:15 pm |

    Very interesting indeed, The South, will look into this further and pass around. Thank you.

  9. South,
    Great news, back to the courts we go, in the mean time the criminals are running the asylum.

  10. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I haven’t seen this suggested here or elsewhere, but I was thinking:

    Obama released his tax returns and then got in front of reporters and claimed that candidates needed to be as “transparent” as possible, and suggested Romney needed to release HIS tax returns for the last few years.

    This was done to embarrass Romney


    Why doesn’t Romney release HIS college entrance papers and get up in front of reporters and claim that Obama do the same in the name of “transparency”?

    Won’t happen because BOTH parties are in on the scam that is Obama.

  11. citizenwells

    Great idea IB.

  12. jacqlynsmith

    Somethings in the air folks…….found at John M’s blog…..

    Monday, April 16, 2012
    Intel from the Good Guys!
    Question: Due to the magnitude of this operation, are people being arrested now and then, the big announcement will be made once they are all rounded up?

    : Not exactly. You’ve got people behind the scenes who are taken into custody and/or put under house arrest that’s not going to be in the mainstream news. The basis of what’s going to happen is very simple. We have set the country free through the notification process. The secondary part of that is that the military has assured its backing to us for the backing of the mass arrests scenario. The mass arrests scenario is going to be primarily all of your celebrity or well-known figures. You’re going to recognize a load of the names.”

    “The first that happens is the central banking system is going to be required to repay each and everything that they borrowed. Not us, them. This will bankrupt that corporation.

    Second part of this is a load, and I mean a heavy load, of criminal charges. Those criminal charges are not limited to anything. They contain just about every crime you can think of.

    Following that, a reorientation back to the original de jour founding document government that was originally set in the United States will be implemented. Within all of this process, you’re going to have people taking care of, in terms of trying to make sure that the lights are all on, etc… If there’s a food shortage someplace, they will break out emergency rations and will make sure people don’t starve. In other words, everything that you can think of in terms of maintaining a general lifestyle is going to be as preserved as possible. This is going to be done with the least amount of chaos and as peaceably as possible. Some people will probably want to shoot it out. That’s their problem

    There’s going to be a worldwide reevaluation of currencies from a debt instrument to an equity instrument and that will facilitate considerable changes. As far as I understand it, the plan has not changed. They were going to have a new currency which would allow for an exchange program and they decided that it could be done in terms of the currency that we have now, except that it says Federal Reserve Note on it. I’m thinking they’re going to bring the newly printed money back, bleach the paper and reprint. It will go from a debt instrument to an equity instrument backed by assets.”

    In regard to HAARP, the controls will be taken over so it won’t be used as a weapon against innocent people. “There are a lot of good things that that can be used for.”

    Regarding televised coverage: “There’s going to be a nice little public display of people going to jail. Basically you’re going to see people being stuck in the paddy wagon being taken to the FEMA camps they built for us. This is going to be one each and every last channel that they can acquire. My understanding is that the military can access any and all channels so it will probably be on each and every channel and you won’t be able to change what you’re watching.”


  13. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Again I was thinking (I know I need to stop doing that) that if I was George Zimmerman and my defense lawyers got in front of reporters and told them that they were quitting and that Zimmerman had not followed their advice on talking with prosecutors and I believe there was one other issue Zimmerman didn’t follow their advice on, I’d be pretty upset that our “dirty laundry” was being released.

    With lawyer/client privacy laws, how can these lawyers get up there and say these things?

    Didn’t they open a “can of worms” by doing this?

  14. Our Individual Power as People was hidden from us in plain sight the whole time!

    The whole country was setup as a Trust Agreement .. “In God We Trust”

    We have no standing to sue/stop them because as soon as we show up in court and answer the judge when they call our name, we are contracting with the court and they are bumping us down to the Trustee positions of the UNITED STATES Corp. instead of our REAL positions as Executor/Beneficiary/Administrators of the TRUST !!!!!!!!

    Go Read This Link and re-read my post above, this is the answer to our REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES against the Trustees of the Corp.

    They have tricked us into believing we are the Trustees; that’s why they DO NOT HEAR US !!!

    Trustees can NOT tell Administrators/Beneficiaries what to do!

    ************************ THANK YOU JESUS, this is the ANSWER !! ************

    We can shut the wars, taxation, slavery, prison complex down RIGHT NOW, IMMEDIATELY by showing up in court as Administrators/Beneficiaries of the Trust (US Constitution).

    This is the POWER we have …. God is Brilliant …. The Founders were brilliant; it’s the Holy Trinity !!!!!!!

    “Executor-Beneficiary-Trustee = God-We The People-Government ”

    Our proof of equity and standing is in our CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH; go read the post on Dailypaul.



    We The People in our INDIVIDUAL or COLLECTIVE capacity are the Administrator/Beneficiary/Executors of the TRUST and the scumbags in DC are the Trustees …… they took an Oath; they are the Trustees … Trustees are slaves that follow orders from the Beneficiaries, do you get it yet??????????????????????

  15. Interested Bystander

    Thanks CW.

  16. ******** URGENT ******** BREAKING NEWS ************ URGENT !!!!

    This is how we get a judge or all judges across the country to hear a court case against Obama !!!

    We have to show up in court as a Beneficiary of the Trust aka UNITED STATES Corp. Our Birth Certificate is our proof of STANDING !!!

    Read the post above ! Go to the link and read and absorb through your heads what just happened.

    They say we have no standing because we are contracting with the court as soon as we walk in by answering the judge when he calls our name.

    Do you get it???????????? As soon as the judge TRICKS us into contracting with court (acknowledging their authority over us), he/she bumps us down to the Trustee position of the Corp.

    Now do you see why we have no STANDING?

    As Trustees, we have no business or right to tell Beneficiaries what to do, it’s Trust Law …… IT’S THE HOLY TRINITY !!!!!!

    MY GOD PLEASE WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go read the post and wake up out of our brainwashed state of mind and take over the Corp as the People were meant to do.

    Does anyone understand what this means ????????

    This is the answer to ALL of our problems in DC and in every (E)STATE.


  17. BALLOT ENTITLEMENT LAWS should DISQUALIFY PRESIDENT OBAMA in TEXAS http://jbjd.org/2012/04/16/ballot-laws-disqualify-bo-tx/

    ©2012 jbjd

    Under Texas law, by failing to file with Texas Secretary of State Hope Andrade the rules adopted by the Texas Democratic Party (“TDP”) to determine that the party’s nominees for President and Vice President are federally qualified for the job; Attorney Boyd Richie, Chair of the TDP, has forfeited the entitlement of the party to have the name of its nominees for those federal offices appear on the 2012 TX ballot. In fact, by failing to provide the candidate qualification rules of the Republican Party of Texas (“RPT”), Attorney Steve Munisteri, Chair of the RPT, has similarly forfeited the entitlement of his party’s nominees for President and Vice President to appear on the 2012 ballot, too.

    It’s true; look at the law….

    Please, can someone post this at FreeRepublic? Just because I have been banned from that site does not mean the Texans there should miss out on this news.

  18. jacqlynsmith

    For those who might be interested in saving time, yet still getting “the whole story”, here’s a recent compilation (without commercials?) of all Drake’s recent radio shows:

    ” Please feel free to share if you think it is worthy of peoples attention.”


  19. This is why Obama and Biden and the others scumbags want to get rid of the County Sheriff. The Sheriff is there to carry out the demands of the Beneficiaries of the Trust by making the Trustees do their job.

    It’s a TRUST ! We are the Administrators/Beneficiaries/Executors of the Trust (UNITED STATES Corp) and the Constitution and we are acting like Trustees.

    All we have to do is show up in court and immediately appoint the judge as the Trustee and ourselves as the Administrator and Viola!

    That’s the magic of the Constitution, it’s a TRUST!

    We now have standing to sue them and stop them!

    Here’s what happens when someone off the street walks into court and immediately appoints the judge as the Trustee.

    and here

    We can’t get any traction because they are tricking us into contracting with the court/judge and admitting they have authority over us, which knocks us down into the Trustee position!

    Now we have STANDING !

    Go read the post at Dailypaul and see the light come shinning through from Heaven above.

    CW, please check this out, it’s the Holy Grail of our Political Power as INDIVIDUALS or as a COLLECTIVE group.

    We have to STAND UP and assume our proper roles as Administrators of the Corporation.

    Go read this page and listen to the video/audios of Dean Clifford.


    Here’s one of him explaining the structure of a Corp.

    If that didn’t show up, here’s the link …

  20. jacqlynsmith

    The AWAKENING is JUST happening for many…..this is great…..send it viral folks….

    Santorum Out, Ron Paul In

    The latest Rasmussen poll on 12 April shows that in a hypothetical Election 2012 matchup, President Obama and Mitt Romney are tied at 45%. Texas Congressman Ron Paul holds a one-point edge over the president, 44% to 43%. Yes, that’s right. Ron Paul is now the candidate most likely to defeat Barack Obama.

    This trend is likely to get worse for Mitt Romney once Obama unleashes his attack ads because Romney has very little record to fight back with. Romney spoke in favor of the bank bailouts, so he can’t challenge Obama on that issue. Romney was pro-abortion in the past, so he can’t challenge Obama on that. Romney’s tax plan actually increases the deficit, so he can’t challenge Obama on that. ObamaCare was modeled on Romney’s government-mandated healthcare in Massachusetts so he can’t challenge Obama on that either. Romney was for the assault weapons ban, the economic stimulus that didn’t work, and the global warming issue, so trying to take on Obama on those won’t work either. The one reason Romney has been successful against the other Republican candidates is his fundraising (he is backed by Goldman Sachs and the other big banks). But so is Obama, and Obama has even more money. Therefore, Romney won’t be able to outspend him.

    However, if Ron Paul is the GOP nominee, he can without a doubt take on Obama on all these issues and more because his record is so rock-solid and consistent. Over Paul’s entire 30 year career he has never voted for a tax increase or for an unbalanced budget. He voted against the bank bailouts. He voted against the failed economic stimulus packages. Dr. Paul is firmly Pro-Life, having been an OB/GYN and has personally delivered over 4000 babies and understands well the sanctity of life. Ron Paul has never voted for any bill that would restrict gun owners’ rights or that would weaken the 2nd Amendment. Ron Paul voted against Obamacare and spoke against its infringement on our liberties. His tax plan was evaluated as the only plan out of all four GOP candidates’ tax plans that would actually eliminate the deficit and start reducing the national debt. And most importantly, Ron Paul warned Congress in 2002 that the housing market bubble would collapse and pull the country into a severe recession. This is because he has a deep understanding of economics and what actually causes recessions and how to prevent them.

    Lastly, Ron Paul believes national defense is the single most important responsibility the Constitution entrusts to the federal government. To quote Ronald Reagan, “Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.” Ron Paul will make sure our military spending is only for actual national security. He will keep our troops out of unconstitutional wars that entangle us in failed nation-building missions, so our troops can come home to defend America’s borders instead. He will not pander to defense contracting lobbyists. He will protect our taxpayer dollars from being spent on a failed foreign policy of trying to be the policeman of the world. Ron Paul is the only Presidential candidate that is a military veteran. And he gets more contributions from active duty military than all the other candidates combined. Military active duty members are his biggest contributor (Obama’s biggest donors are also Goldman Sachs and the other big banks).

    In short, with Ron Paul as our Republican nominee, he soundly defeats Obama on the issues. Obama has no defense against Ron Paul. If Romney is the nominee, Romney will have to spend all of his time trying to defend his record instead of going on the offensive against Obama.


  21. This is great!


    O’Keefe Team Offered More Ballots

    The only semblance left of Breitbart himself is O’Keefe. Forget the real reporting and investigation for the rest. They’re just living off of Breitbart’s risks. Still waiting for what Breitbart really had on Obama and was going to reveal.

  22. jacqlynsmith

    observer…..there’s plenty going to be revealed and it’s NOT just going to be on BO!! The REVELATIONS are getting closer by the day…Can’T WAIT for TSTHTF!!!!

  23. jacqlynsmith

    It is time to take the ring of power to mount doom
    by Benjamin Fulford, April 17, 2012

    This news report from Ben has breaking news from all over the planet. As is apparent from other sources (David Wilcock, the Drake, et al.), the pots all over this world have been stirred and are being stirred to bring the cabalists out, and to be sure they are contained. He reports that arrests of these people are being made. No vacation in the Bahamas for them!

    Entire report can be found here…..


  24. CON OF THE CENTURY! Obama used our ignorance of the Trust against us and still is today. No wonder we have no Standing: We have been acting like Trustees all along with respect to the Corporation “UNITED STATES”


    Here’s the original post that explains it in more detail:


    No wonder the judges say we don’t have any standing! Because when they bump us down to Trustees of the UNITED STATES Corp by tricking us into contracting with them by answering our “name” when called, ultimately admitting submission to the court and knocking us down into the Trustee position of the Corp.

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  26. truthbetold11

    good old rodney danger field speaking Thornton Melon: Oh, you left out a bunch of stuff.
    Dr. Phillip Barbay: Oh really? Like what for instance?
    Thornton Melon: First of all you’re going to have to grease the local politicians for the sudden zoning problems that always come up. Then there’s the kickbacks to the carpenters, and if you plan on using any cement in this building I’m sure the teamsters would like to have a little chat with ya, and that’ll cost ya. Oh and don’t forget a little something for the building inspectors. Then there’s long term costs such as waste disposal. I don’t know if you’re familiar with who runs that business but I assure you it’s not the boyscouts.
    Dr. Phillip Barbay: That will be quite enough, Mr. Melon! Maybe bribes, kickbacks and Mafia payoffs are how YOU do business! But they are NOT part of the legitimate business world! And they are certainly not part of anything I am doing in this class. Do I make myself clear, Mr. Melon!

  27. Isn’t it IRONIC that Obama has no birth certificate and we have no standing to see it, but the truth of the matter is:

    Our very own CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH is our receipt of equitable title in the UNITED STATES Corp and that is our proof that we are Investors in the Corp, and now that we can prove we are investors, we have standing!

    We are the INVESTORS, he and the other goons are the Trustees, they’ve just duped us all along into believing we were the Trustees.

    “In God We Trust” ………… Brilliant !

  28. truthbetold11,

  29. Send this to Drudge Now! Send it to the people with lawsuits against Obama, and tell them NOT to use an attorney, that act alone takes away their standing.




    It was hidden in plain sight all along. This is the BIG picture; it’s the TRUST!

  30. jacqlynsmith

    South….so in other words….ORLY is shooting herself in the foot by just walking in the court room seeing as she is an attorney! UMMMMMMM…maybe she is just a decoy for BO!

  31. Yes JS … An attorney (BAR card carrying attorney) can’t sue the association she’s working for.

    That’s why we can’t get anything done in this country; they know it’s a Trust agreement and know we are too busy chasing our tails with elections and street picketing to understand what the BIG picture is.

    It’s a Trust; we are the Beneficiaries and they are the Trustees!

    No one has showed up in court as an INVESTOR and assumed their role as an Executor/Beneficiary and DEMANDED the Trustees do their job or get the hell out.

    The Judge ABSOLUTELY HAS To abide by the wishes of the Beneficiary/Administrator, the whole country is running off Trust Law.

    They just trick us as soon as we walk into court by calling our “name” and we jump up waiving our hands “ME-ME-ME-ME, It’s ME Your Honor” and when you do that, you’re admitting incompetence and submitting to the authority of the court.

    Now you’re the Trustee and Trust Me … Trustees can NOT tell Administrators what to do.

    You’ve been had 🙂


    Again the american people have been suckerd by the Internal Revenue Service Corperation, a branck of the Federal Reserve Coperation…..the latter being a private banking cartel of 13 international banks…and

    The former being the enforcement arm of that illegal banking cartel. Here are some recent stats that should make each TAX PAYING CITIZEN feel good about his donation:

    Out of the 143 million tax returns that were filed with the IRS in 2010, 58 million – or 41 percent – of those filers were non-payers Please note 41 percent of the returns filed were NON-PAYERS.

    In other words, only 85 million actually PAID TAXES.

    But Tax Foundation data also shows that people who didn’t pay any income tax also received $105 billion in refundable tax credits from the IRS.

    Again please note: PEOPLE WHO DIDN’T PAY ANY INCOME TAX RECEIVED 105 BILLION IN REFUNDABLE TAX CREDITS…In other words, they received 105 BILLION dollars from the system they didn’t put a nickel into for the general welfare. .

    THAT’S CALLED WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION…..A key plank of the Communist Party International.

    Now doesn’t that make you feel good. You have just donated again to their favorite charity, without really being told so.

  33. Well RM, until enough of us get mad enough to storm the walls of Capitol Hill and demand this be stopped asap, nothing will ever happen. Most people I talk to know the tax code, IRS, Govt. are not doing right by we who are paying the bills, but all they say is ” Yeah but so what. What can we do about it?” There you have the whole problem in a nutshell. Most Americans will just go along to get along and run the streets with blinders on. They have no knowledge of what to do and don’t have any motivation to learn what to do. So more and more will be on the non-paying side and we shulps doing the heavy lifting will have to lift more until there are no more lifters. Bad situation. Now maybe the gong will be rung in Nov. loud and clear and we will have a massive turn around that shows people are aware of all this, but I have my doubts there will be enough of us to overcome the 41% plus the apathetic citizens who will vote for Obama because they just don’t care or they won’t bother to vote at all because they’ve given up. I am praying very hard that I am totally wrong and telling as many people as possible they need to pay attention to the fact their lives are being stolen from them.

  34. Tax Day? They can’t tax us, period! The cat is out of the bag; we are the Beneficiaries of the Trust, they are the Trustees.

    Why are Trustees taxing Administrators/Beneficiaries?

    Because were to stupid to see the writing on the wall.

    But it’s about to change, as soon as we go to court and put the judge in the Trustee box were he/she belongs right off the bat!

    CW …. Please spread those articles to all your contacts, this is BIG!

    God Bless!

  35. To Santorum Supporters Who “Don’ t Like Ron’s Foreign Policy”

    Many of us are Christians who have been brainwashed by Fox News pundits. And where has their war mongering gotten us and our country? Think of the lives that have been lost, the injuries that have been sustained, and the trillions of dollars of debt! The Bible says, “to live at peace with all men” as much as lies in us. It also says to “owe no man anything but love.” Why do we think we can disobey the Golden Rule? What could be wrong with treating other nations the way we want to be treated, while maintaining the strongest possible national defense? What about Ron’s idea of reopening our closed military bases here at home? What could be wrong with having liberty AND safety? Why does it have to be either/or? Our military supports Ron Paul more than all the other candidates combined. Why is that so? They know his foreign policy is sound, based on their hard-won experience. How much of the New Testament must we disregard in order to heed the rhetoric of the pundits and “Christian” radio personalities? Please, let’s spend some time in God’s Word and in prayer. Instead of looking at Fox News, go to Youtube and listen to Ron’s speeches. Compare his policies to the words of the New Testament and you will understand why so many of our brothers and sisters in Christ support Ron Paul.

    Postscript: Above all, don’t listen to the lie that “Ron Can’t Win”. If he couldn’t win, they would politely cover his campaign instead of blacking him out in the news. Several special interest groups are terrified that you will find out how sound Ron’s policies actually are. And a recent Rasmussen Poll shows that Ron would beat Obama by a higher margin than Romney. The only way Ron won’t win is if good people refuse to stand with him for the truth and for the Constitution.

    RON PAUL 2012


  36. Why do you think they are called PUBLIC TRUSTEES or PUBLIC SERVANTS?

    Because the are ! We’ve just never been taught that we are the Beneficiaries of the Trust and they are taking advantage of our ignorance.

    Wake Up People, we’ve got work to do!

  37. jacqlynsmith

    Gerald Celente: The Empire is Collapsing

  38. cjzak | April 16, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
    “Now maybe the gong will be rung in Nov. loud and clear and we will have a massive turn around that shows people are aware of all this, but I have my doubts there will be enough of us to overcome the 41% plus the apathetic citizens who will vote for Obama “.
    My first, second, and third choice was not Romney. But that seems to be the cards we are dealt. I will vote ABO! But I am amazed at how may conservatives say they will stay home. It makes me sick to my stomach that they are willing to let our country descend into a dictatorship. If Obama wins, I will not blame the stupid liberals. I will blame the so-called conservatives with their high minded morals that can’t see what’s coming down the pike. It’s ugly. Really ugly. Romney is not perfect. But he’s not Obama.

    Enlighten me please! I don’t see how staying home helps! What does it prove? How does it help?


    He is for NDAA

    On December 31, 2011, President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), codifying indefinite military detention without charge or trial into law for the first time in American history. The NDAA’s dangerous detention provisions would authorize the president — and all future presidents — to order the military to pick up and indefinitely imprison people captured anywhere in the world, far from any battlefield.

    He is for Nationalizing and Bailing out the banks.
    He is for war
    He is A Goldman Sachs Establishment Boy

    Vote Ron Paul 2012

  40. Somethig strange is going on here. I like RP, but this blog is being flooded with RP supporters. Is it a “flash mob”?

  41. For SueQ, please read


    Our response to the tactics of a UK Law Firm and the Herzog/Romney/Jeb Bush connection

    Due to circumstances surrounding the reaction to White Hats Report #38, this could be one of the most anticipated releases we have ever done to date.

    While digging deeper into this continuing web of deceit, we discovered that not only did Mitt Romney introduce Dr. Michael Herzog to the Davidson Kempner Group, but it has now been discovered that Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush arranged for 10 Billion Dollars to be invested in the Davidson Kempner Euro Fund, thus making it the company’s largest investment, with Romney and Jeb Bush as beneficiaries. Now, who do you think Romney’s VP nominee will be? Where did these funds come from?
    read more;


  42. The South | April 16, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    Tax Day? They can’t tax us, period! The cat is out of the bag; we are the Beneficiaries of the Trust, they are the Trustees.
    The South, this is fanciful, imaginative, wild thinking you are espousing here. It has tones of something that starts with “R” and was all the rage a couple of years ago. Just try a case in court using your theory and you will see how far you get. Some folks will fall for almost anything.

    Pardon me, but you are barking up the wrong tree, and your tree is so convoluted with crazy definitions, etc., that it is not worth the time or effort to address them. If this theory makes you happy and gives you a good feeling, please keep it to yourself and don’t clutter up a great blog with repeated attempts at converting us. Sorry, I’m in no mood for frivolity.

  43. Since CW has become a RP or MR political site (just kidding CW), I’m going to put in MY 2 cents (sense):

    You’re looking for another George Washington you say? How about NEWT!! You get George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin, all in one!! Take another look and you’ll see what I say!! He’s the ONLY one who has the B@LLS to take out oPuke!! NEWT / WEST 2012!! Landslide 2012!! All the Way to Tampa Bay!! All the Way to OUR White House!!

  44. Presidential Candidates and Gun Rights

    Just FYI-See how the Gun Owners of America graded each presidential candidate in reference to their stance on and performance defending the Second Amendment:


    Ron Paul A+
    Rick Perry A
    Rick Santorum B-
    Newt Gingrich C
    Mitt Romney D-
    Jon Huntsman-Not rated

  45. Mitt Romney Cannot Win

  46. cabbyaz said:

    The South, this is fanciful, imaginative, wild thinking you are espousing here. It has tones of something that starts with “R” and was all the rage a couple of years ago. Just try a case in court using your theory and you will see how far you get. Some folks will fall for almost anything.

    Pardon me, but you are barking up the wrong tree, and your tree is so convoluted with crazy definitions, etc., that it is not worth the time or effort to address them. If this theory makes you happy and gives you a good feeling, please keep it to yourself and don’t clutter up a great blog with repeated attempts at converting us. Sorry, I’m in no mood for frivolity.

    Let me ask you question there Mrs. Knowitall :

    Pull out a Certified Copy of your CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH and tell me if you see a Registrars Seal Embossed on the Document.

    Actually, this is a class project: Everyone go get that copy now!

    Once you see the Registrars Seal and Signature, ask yourself “What is an Registrar?”

    Never mind, I’ll save you the trouble of thinking for yourself.

    The Registrar is the Court of Probate; Probate only deals with Estates of the dead.

    Are you DEAD? Why is that Registrars Seal on YOUR Certificate of Live Birth?

    Now go back and read my original post with this link from above:


    And this one:


    And this one, and see if you can’t put it all together 🙂


    The whole country was setup as a Trust Agreement “In God We Trust”
    your proof is in the original post and the fact that these Judges jump up and down and get mad as hell when someone walks into court and immediately appoints them (the judge) as the Trustee of “name” on the birth certificate.

    From that point on, that case they brought you in for has absolutely nothing to do with YOU, the living man/woman.

    They are dealing with us as we are dead in court, go back and read my links at Dailypaul.

  47. “Obama Born Again Kenyan: Kenya Sees Spike in Obama Administration-Funded Projects”

    “NOTE FROM THE EDITOR: The reference to Kenya as “the former home nation” of President Obama has been removed. The Monitor acknowledges this lapse in judgment, and intends to more vigorously ensure the editorial integrity of this site.”

    Beckwith at “The Obama File”:

    “Note to the editor

    It’s OK to refer to Kenya as Obama’s “home country” — after all, the bride does.

    At 42 seconds in this video, Michelle clearly says: “When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country, in Kenya…” — not his ancestral home — not his father’s home country — “…HIS home country, in Kenya…” — Here is the definition of “home country.”

    And during a fundraiser in Tampa in December 2007, wife, Michelle, in this video, discussed how hard it was for her and her husband to pay off student loans from “good schools,” Michelle Obama said the following
    “What it reminded me of was our trip to Africa, two years ago, and the level of excitement that we felt in that country — the hope that people saw just in the sheer presence of somebody like Barack Obama — a Kenyan, a black man, a man of great statesmanship who they believe could change the fate of the world.”

    The reference to “Kenyan” starts about 2:05 minutes into the video. Use the slider.”


  48. Anyone here feel that there are 2 names posting in here that might be the same person? There was a strong feeling of this once before and both seemed to disappear within a couple of months of each other. CabbyAZ, good post. 😉

  49. “Is Obama ready to throw the birth certificate under the bus?

    “What is emerging in the various state legal challenges to including President Obama on the presidential ballot appears to be an attempt by the White House to divorce itself from the Obama long-form birth certificate released,” said Mike Zullo, the lead investigator in Arizona Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s law enforcement investigation into Obama’s birth certificate and eligibility to be president.

    “The White House appears to be acting as if the Obama birth certificate is of no consequence in establishing the fact of Obama’s birth,” Zullo continued.”


  50. The South | April 16, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
    Once you see the Registrars Seal and Signature, ask yourself “What is an Registrar?”

    Never mind, I’ll save you the trouble of thinking for yourself.
    The Registrar is the Court of Probate; Probate only deals with Estates of the dead.

    Are you DEAD? Why is that Registrars Seal on YOUR Certificate of Live Birth?

    If you are building a case on “registrar” being only connected with “probate” you are off the track right out of the box. Go look up “registrar” in the dictionary. Definition, “An official who keeps records, as in a college….”

    The rest of your premise is likewise faulty. I just don’t have the time now to prepare a reasoned response. FYI, I did read the links you posted. They are likewise full of holes not worth a decent rebuttal.

  51. Thistle, thank you! It bothers me tremendously to see such crazy detours to distract when we are facing very serious concerns. BTW, the “R” word also rhymes with another beginning with “C”. 🙂

  52. For all you guys who are having a hard time wrapping your head around this TRUST scam and what they have and are doing to us, I wrote this comment up on DailyPaul to lay it out and explain the scam to you:

    Enjoy, you’ve been had 🙂


    Someone needs to get this link above and this one here to Sheriff Joe so they understand what’s going on with Obama/Biden trying bring suits against him and shut the Sheriff down.

    This is the ANSWER folks!

    Obama is Toast, we now have Standing!


    Merry Early Christmas Gang, hope you enjoy your new gift from God; he just exposed the scam for you.

  53. The South,

    I am on your side. But it’s a uphill battle

  54. bc, it’s not an uphill battle at all.

    We have standing now, no matter what side of the field they want to play on.

    If they want to say we don’t have standing when it comes to the original Constitution/Trust, we just show up in court and appoint the judge the Trustee right off the bat. We bring the lawsuit in as the Beneficiaries of the Trust, not citizens.

    We do not hire an attorney, and we don’t let the court trick us into contracting with them if we show up representing our self.

    If they’d rather bring us in under their fictitious Gov’t aka the Corporation known as the UNITED STATES and claim we don’t have standing, well, that’s fine too.

    Because we have a brand new Certified Copy of our CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH that proves we have “equitable” title to the Trust; that makes us INVESTORS in their little Corp, and as Investors, we now have standing, because we are the Beneficiaries of the Estate they set up for us when they created the birth certificate.

    Here’s the comment to explain it again:


    You see, Mr. Obama and his fictitious courts and judges keep insisting we don’t have standing as citizens to question him and they may be right under their fictitious corporate ponzi scheme, but you see, we aren’t citizens now that we know the country was set up a Trust, oh no! We are now what you call PERSONAL INVESTORS in the Corp, and that gives us standing.

    When people actually wrap their head around this, it’s going to be the news of the century.

    God Bless, spread it far and wide so people can start understanding this is our ONLY remedy to shutting this out of control congress down and unseating the usurper.

    It’s Trust Law …….. In God We Trust 🙂

  55. Latest interview with Ayers postman. Scroll down to Thursday Apr. 12. Esp. interesting towards the end when he gives his theory of the intentions of this regime and their friends. Great discussion followed. Very smart man….self educated:


  56. Another great interview on Trunews…this time scroll down to Thursday Apr. 5. Starts out talking about how Obama and his thugs will react to any challenge to his fraudulent election next time. And then on to John Paul Jackson.


  57. Does everyone else have to log in to word before commenting here? And then it screws me up at times giving me another name, “mirrose”. How can you get around this and get back to the old normal way of just commenting without logging in to word system? And I’m still getting the sign in info smack in the middle of box while typing, hiding what is being typed. Once this started I’ve not been able to correct it. What am I doing wrong?

  58. South: Interesting stuff. I’ll be looking forward to the first case brought into a court using this type of reasoning. I sure hope it gets some publicity so we can see what happens. Do you know if anyone is planning to test this out anytime soon? We don’t have a lot of time left before the election and this would be a good thing to have happen before Nov. to get the goods out there on Obama. Please let us know when something actually happens regarding this issue.

  59. testing testing

  60. Here ya go, read it and smile America; You are the Beneficiaries of the (E)STATE by way of a Trust agreement (US Constitution) and never even knew it. Yep, they’ve been running rough shod over us for decades making us think We were the slaves (Trustees) ….. What a Frigging Scam and the worst part of the whole scam?

    The truth was, the clue it was a Trust was carved in concrete on every beautiful building in DC and the State Capitols nationwide.

    ” In God We Trust ”

    Yep, it’s the Holy Trinity of Trust Law, the Holy Bible that inspired the Founding Fathers.

    Executor-Beneficiary-Trustee = God-We The People-Government

    ***************************** THE HOLY TRINITY ********************************

    We are the Beneficiaries to the (E)State (America and the World) of the Last Living Will and Testament of God himself, the Holy Bible, rooted in Trust Law.

    The whole country was setup as a Trust Agreement that made We The People the Beneficiaries and the people who wanted to serve in government had to sign their Oaths of Affirmation as mandated by the Constitution, which made them PUBLIC TRUSTEES or what we like to call the PUBLIC SERVANTS.

    Government can not be Executors and Beneficiaries, they can only be Trustees.

    Here’s a little more proof of the situation:


    What are all the people and their families rotting away in prison going to do when they find out they were hoodwinked and thrown in prison by a bunch of PUBLIC TRUSTEES masquerading as the Beneficiaries of a Trust?

    Oh boy, this is going to get messy.

  61. Sue Q: You are where I am. I will vote ABO. But so many think staying home is their only choice because they don’t like Romney(or whomever gets the repub nom) and they hate Obama. No matter how many times I’ve had that conversation with people about not voting at all being a vote for the guy they hate, they just don’t get it or refuse to vote for someone they don’t like. Makes no sense, but many of them will not change their minds on that. Guess they figure it all doesn’t matter what they do or don’t do, like I said above. Running through the streets with blinders on until a car hits them and they claim they didn’t see it coming. We are about to get hit with a truck if Obama wins another term, and some of us who clearly see the truck, are shouting to the rest of our fellow Americans, WATCH OUT, to no avail at this point. Pray that changes before Nov.

  62. observer | April 16, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
    Does everyone else have to log in to word before commenting here?
    I agree, Observer, there are strange goings-on with WordPress. I have had to sign in a couple of times recently even though I checked the “remember me” box.

    Absolutely the comment format is unpleasant. I have found that scrolling upward on the entire page helps, but then I have to place the curser anew in order to add to my comment. That requires closing the gaps. Frankly, I wish they would quit messing us up. My mood is not the best today. 🙂

  63. The South
    though I did not yet read thru all you posted – you make sense in that, I’ve read some thing on where “public servants” have increasingly been called public officials (makes them sound above us, when you make the case they are there to serve us, we are above them in that sense but need to respect their position and duties of service in accordance with the laws)

    Also makes sense that BO and those speaking for him say doesn’t matter if he’s NBC or falsely stating he is, which in a sense makes sense if our Govt is a trust and our nbcitizenship is not what it used to be, since we are now a corp, so our nbc comes into play in a different way?

    I’m not exactly sure what it all means for our country going forward – but I do grasp much of what you say. thanks for sharing, seems to bring many pieces together.

  64. CW, The Attorney General from Texas finally responded to my post about Minor v Happersett being precedent for natural born Citizen. I sense some obfuscation on his part as he tries to put words in my mouth I didn’t say.

    Andrew D. Leonie Minor v Happerset had nothing to do with “anchor babies”. It was an 1875 case which held that the 14th Amendment did not guarantee the right of women to vote (it was decided before the 19th amendment). It held that citizenship in and of itself did not also imply the right to vote and that the State of Missouri could constitutionally limit voting to men only.
    2 hours ago · Like
    Philip Dean Stoller Would be a smart move, but will he do it???
    2 hours ago · Like
    Robert Strauss I never said Minor v Hapersett had anything to do with anchor babies.


    …the only time the US Supreme Court ever did define the class of persons who were POTUS eligible under Article 2 Section 1 was in Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), wherein it was held:

    “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 168.

    There’s a quote for you. It really exists. And it tells you exactly who are natural-born citizens; those born in the country of parents who are citizens. The words are plain-spoken and self-evident. There are two classes of persons discussed in the above quotation. Those born in the country of citizen parents were labeled by the Court as “natives or natural-born citizens”, but these were also further identified as being “distinguished from aliens or foreigners”. The distinction is crucial.

    On one side are those who have no citizenship other than that of the United States… as distinguished from those on the polar opposite side who have absolutely no claim to citizenship in the United States; “These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” Those who fall in between these two extremes make up a third class of persons whose citizenship status, the Court noted, was subject to doubt:
    8 minutes ago · Like
    Robert Strauss http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/ Andrew D Leonie, this is the source for the Minor v Happersett information, more good info at this site.

  65. CW and fellow Beneficiaries of the (E)State by way of Trust known as the united States of America, here’s your proof from one of the originators of the Revelation there was an (E)State that was created in our name by the pretend gov’t known as the UNITED STATES Corporation.

    Read it and Smile America, we just uncovered the CON and Cracked the Code of our Slavery 🙂

    Thank You Lord Jesus, you are the Greatest God of All, sorry it took us so long to see your good deed.

    Looks like enough people in the country and around the world finally starting praying for God to intervene and stop this madness.

    This is it folks, this is BIG secret we were never supposed to figure out.

  66. CW, Here is the whole Facebook screen shot which started a few days ago.

    Andrew D. Leonie · 121 subscribers
    April 12 at 5:29am near Dallas, TX ·

    Mitt Romney should announce now that he has selected Marco Rubio for V.P. … and Mitt should do something totally unprecedented and go ahead and name his principal cabinet designees – such as Newt for Sec of State, Rick Santorum for Attorney General, Allen West for Sec of Defense, Steve Forbes for Treasury, Ron Paul for HHS, etc ….. turn all these into additional surrogate candidates to campaign for him around the country. It would be a powerful lineup!
    16 minutes ago
    Alicia Kennedy Palifka I agree!!!!
    April 12 at 6:20am · Like
    Larry Smith It will not be Rubio he is Mormon so doubt he will be on ticket would be a stone wall for some with two Mormons on the ticket.My neice and her family are Mormon so have no problem with it but some will.
    April 12 at 9:19am · Like
    MaryAnne Dunn Bose Marco Rubio is Roman Catholic.
    April 12 at 9:39am · Like
    Chris Bowers According to the Miami Herald, Rubio was baptized in a Mormon church, he received first communion in a Catholic church, he attended and gave generously to a Southern Baptist-affiliated church, returned to the Catholic church, but still often attends the Baptist-affiliated church: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/02/23/2657517/sen-rubios-mormon-past-comes-to.html.
    April 12 at 8:51pm · Like
    Andrew D. Leonie Chris, that is fascinating. Thank you! Many of us have made a faith journey and perhaps still view our spiritual life as a journey. It helps us to stand stronger for truth while still appreciating and respecting truth in various faith traditions. I’m looking forward to Rubio’s forthcoming book “An American Son”.
    Friday at 6:09am · Like
    Robert Strauss Marco Rubio is not a natural born Citizen and cannot be in line for the presidency of the USA.
    Friday at 6:09am · Like
    Andrew D. Leonie Marco Rubio is a natural born American citizen, born in Miami in 1971 to Cuban-American immigrants. Of course he is eligible to be Vice-President. It’s time to stop repeating the myth and put the falsehood to rest.
    Friday at 6:16am · Like
    Reading Overstreet Ditto, Ditto, Ditto ….
    Friday at 7:04am · Like
    Robert Strauss Andrew D Leonie, Check out Minor v Happerset, Supreme Court precedent for natural born Citizen, it is no myth, and it is not a falsehood, it’s the law of the land. Anchor babies are not natural born Citizens, they are naturalized Citizens.
    Friday at 7:07am · Like
    Jim Chism WOW! What a line up. Let’s take the road less traveled.
    Saturday at 4:50am · Like
    Andrew D. Leonie Minor v Happerset had nothing to do with “anchor babies”. It was an 1875 case which held that the 14th Amendment did not guarantee the right of women to vote (it was decided before the 19th amendment). It held that citizenship in and of itself did not also imply the right to vote and that the State of Missouri could constitutionally limit voting to men only.
    2 hours ago · Like
    Philip Dean Stoller Would be a smart move, but will he do it???
    2 hours ago · Like
    Robert Strauss I never said Minor v Hapersett had anything to do with anchor babies.


    …the only time the US Supreme Court ever did define the class of persons who were POTUS eligible under Article 2 Section 1 was in Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), wherein it was held:

    “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 168.

    There’s a quote for you. It really exists. And it tells you exactly who are natural-born citizens; those born in the country of parents who are citizens. The words are plain-spoken and self-evident. There are two classes of persons discussed in the above quotation. Those born in the country of citizen parents were labeled by the Court as “natives or natural-born citizens”, but these were also further identified as being “distinguished from aliens or foreigners”. The distinction is crucial.

    On one side are those who have no citizenship other than that of the United States… as distinguished from those on the polar opposite side who have absolutely no claim to citizenship in the United States; “These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” Those who fall in between these two extremes make up a third class of persons whose citizenship status, the Court noted, was subject to doubt:
    19 minutes ago · Like

  67. “Ann Barnhardt Unloads on the Complicit Politicians in DC Ignoring Obama’s Ineligibility”

    [videos at link]


  68. The South,
    Believe what you want to, but please leave the name of the Lord Jesus out of it. Your “discovery” doesn’t hold up to basic understanding of law, and invoking His Name in connection this new-found theory is insulting to me and any other Christian that can see the fallacy of your thinking.

    You need to re-examine your treatise, because it is absolutely wrought with error. Why don’t you run your thoughts before someone like Mario Apuzzo? Or Judge Napolitano? Please do it for the sake of the country. With all due respect, you feel that this is a great discovery, when there have been various versions of this floated around for some years.

  69. cabbyaz.

    You will soon eat those words.

    Goodnight all!

  70. i believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Been reading here since summer 2008 and on rare occasion comment because I was super uneducated about politics or government or God for that matter.

    Lately there are a number of “Christian believers” pushing their idea of Christianity. I, as most every believer, have been thru a rough stretch after accepting Jesus as Savior and asking Him to be LORD of my life.

    I can attest to the FACT He at times gives one or some of us views that are in line with His word, but no one else around seems to see it. I can also attest that at times I am wrong in things I thought were what He told me.

    Look to the Bible – He set Abe out with no real clue where he was going – to most in this day and age, they would think Abe crazy to up and leave with no real plan just listening to God say take your family and go, I’ll show you when you get there. What about Noah? build a huge ark? Rain? what a loon!

    If our LOGIC was the answer, or we were supposed to readily understand things, we would not need faith in God. Just as the fact He is cleaning each of us up according to our willingness and His ultimate plan. I see us all with addictions and bad habits, some are just so common place and accepted like over eating, or bingeing which is one of mine. many people say not as bad as other habits, but if it thwarts the will of God for my life and His plan thru me to touch others for Him, it’s just as evil as so called “worse” ones. Sin is sin. A lie is just as huge a violation to God as mass murder.

    Just because God has not revealed some thing to you, does not mean He has not revealed that same thing to some one else. Just my tiny view of what I know from trying to let HIM be LORD and not judge what He may be doing with others. Look at all the Biblical people who were fervent believers and still got things wrong at times.

    I believe the Bible tells us Don’t be pointing out the plank in the eye of our brothers and sisters in Christ while we have planks in our own eyes. It also tells us satan will pit us against each other. We are to be the body – we are not all the same part of that body, we are different parts – all as important, but most important, Jesus as the head.

    God is still on His throne & still in control – no worries or fear for those in HIM! Peace and Joy of Jesus Always 🙂

  71. Good Morning everyone..

    Just a reminder,

    Neither Ron Paul nor Newt Gingrich will win. The GOP establishment already selected the GOP winner from the onset and that person is and will be Mitt Romney. It matters not if we agree with it or wish it differently.

    There is no “Awakening” happening outside the RP camp. The same is true for Newt’s camp.

  72. Cabby,

    Very true…..

  73. cabbyaz | April 17, 2012 at 1:08 am |
    Common sense. Esp. when we witness the real in depth problem of our courts deliberately allowing contempt of their own orders when it comes to any Obama challenge….to the point of the judge himself becoming the defense atty for the no shows. I don’t believe there is any established “Trust” existing in real time when you can’t even trust in the foundations of our current justice system! Silliness and naive imaginings indeed!

  74. CW, good morning.
    I made two posts last night in my ongoing argument with the Texas Attorney General about Minor v Hapersett, both were in moderation, this morning neither post is visible, what gives?

  75. After our very foundations….as if we didn’t know!

    Media Matters’ targets revealed: business, wealth, Christianity


  76. Media Matters = George Soros= Sedition=Treason=UnAmerican

  77. “Gary Wilmott vs Larry Elder: Obama’s Identity and Felony Document Fraud”


  78. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,


    Let me see if I got this right.

    If you are summoned for some reason to Court, whether it be for murder, speeding, assault or whaever, all you have to do is deny you are who your birth certificate states you are, and you can “take control” of the Court and dismiss all of the charges against you,


    You tell them that you are who your birth certificate states you are and then you “void” some “contract” because they think you are a dead person

    Did I get it right?

    If I may, at least to me, this gives those who say that Ron Paul is supported by “fringe” elements some evidence of that.

  79. Interested Bystander


    As per your 8:24 comment:

    So what do we do?

    I will NEVER vote for Mitt Romney.

    Sorry folks, but I just won’t be part of Romney in any way, shape, matter or form.

    But I WILL vote, whether it be for the Libertarian candidate, or Constitution Party candidate, or someone else, after thoroughly researching them.

    And THEN I can hold my head up proud and say that I voted for the BEST person for the job, and didn’t “sell out” my beliefs in what I think the Government should be.

    I think Romney is a “salesman”, and not the run of the mill, let you look around without pressure salesman either. He’s a “snake oil salesman”.

    But that’s just me and I have just one “little” vote.

  80. Interested Bystander

    Moderation at 9:47,

    darn it.




  82. I think Old Salt is right when he says Up is Down, etc. and I wonder if many commenting here are stuck in similar patterns of thinking their logic on things must be “right” so all else must be wrong. I think it foolish to quickly totally dismiss new angles. though they may have flaws they may also hold important keys. There obviously is some way to have standing and have this hear onmerits. Our founders were not stupid and left things out. We people, over time slowly relaxed our guard and stopped being/acting the part we were meant to, and are now at a loss and must rediscover and take steps to do our part. imho. It makes sense if you consider John Jay commented he thought the SC would not be needed much (it only met 6 weeks a year), other public servants served at the will of people(some asked not to be sent back to DC after 3-4 terms but the people wanted them – so they did their duty and went back and served), not as we have it today where people decide to run and WE are left to choose the lesser of 2 evils at the polls. Attnys, were not widely needed to settle disputes until more recent years (why is that?), WE’ve been “educated” to think we have less part in the running of our govt. then we truly do. (I was taught not to question “authority”) WE have not been doing our part – our current thinking of what is or is not “our part” is STILL lacking some how. Question is are WE WILLING (truly?) to DO our part to live as the founders set the guidelines, once we more fully understand it?
    I now see living in this form of govt our founders gave their lives work to give us, alot like trying to live a life following Christ. It will make us have to step out of comfort zone, become more humble, serve for the sake of others and not our own gain, etc etc.
    I learned much of that thru David Barton and Wallbuilders, but The South’s ideas above, hold seeds of things David has been trying to remind US of for years. His research and document library of founding era info is a treasure.

  83. citizenwells

    Moment of clarity.

    Those of you following Obama, et al 4 years ago must admit progress has been made.
    Far more people have their eyes open wider.
    This includes Obama’s eligibility deficiencies, corruption ties, radical associations, leftist agenda, etc.
    Perseverance is the key.

  84. I have family in Houston who worked on the shuttle. Such a disgrace that we are not in manned space flight anymore.

  85. >>>>CitizenWells
    Moment of clarity.
    Those of you following Obama, et al 4 years ago must admit progress has been made.
    Far more people have their eyes open wider.
    This includes Obama’s eligibility deficiencies, corruption ties, radical associations, leftist agenda, etc.
    Perseverance is the key.<<<

    The aforementioned statement is accurate. However, I have also been enlightened that many Americans are no longer loyal to Country and Constitution. Obama has just drawn a line in the sand and the Marxists, traitors, Racists, corrupt, and liars have all gone over to his side. Like Ted Nugent, I doubt that persons like us will remain alive or out of prison if he is 're-elected'.


  86. Well IB, respectfully, you can vote for whomever you want. But if you are truly interested in getting Obama out as Pres., then you will need to vote for the Repub. candidate even if it’s Mitt. It’s just the facts of how our political system works and it is unfortunate but that is how it is. The key this time is getting rid of Obama and company asap. No eligibility issues, no Chicago crimes, no tea party protests, no Congressional rants about impeachment, no flaunting of judges rulings, nothing is left at this point except our votes. There need to be overwhelming numbers of those votes against Obama— to counter-act voter fraud—to be successful in the outcome we here want to have happen. So do what you have to, but don’t cry afterwards if Obama wins. Or maybe that’s what you really want to happen anyway. If so then you’ll be happy either way you mark your ballot as long as it’s not the dreaded Mitt, right?

  87. hockeyfan530

    I’m still voting for whichever candidate is willing to be a “birther”. So, yep, Romney is out. The eligibility is the ONLY issue that matters. What these people are basically saying by allowing Barry to get away with this is that politicians are above the law and i’m sick of it. Not playing that any more.

  88. citizenwells

    It is good to know who your enemy is.

  89. So now we’ll admit the presidents birth certificate is a forgery, okay, you caught us …….. but …….. since it’s a forgery, we don’t believe that can be used to prove he’s NOT a natural born citizen.

    I mean you silly citizens ( I mean beneficiaries) can’t honestly believe that forged birth certificate has any merit of proof that Mr. Obama (the head trustee of the corp.) is not a natural born citizen, can you?


    I sure hope folks are looking into the REAL remedy of beating this in court, which is the fact, We The People are the Beneficiaries of the (E)State known as the united States of America, and Obama and his corrupt minions in the courts; in congress; in the senate, etc. are nothing more than a bunch of toothless trustees that cannot deny the true beneficiaries a legal avenue to get him out and stop them in their tracks.


    We haven’t been able to touch him (or any of them for that matter) because we aren’t playing our proper roles as beneficiaries of the corporation known as the UNITED STATES.

    We are acting like Trustees and Obama and his minions are using this against us. Trustees have no business administering the (E)State; Trustees have no legal authority to bring any lawsuit against Executors or Beneficiaries of a Corporation.

    Please people, read these links and learn to play your PROPER roles in this, and then, and ONLY then will you find remedy.


    Read this one too:


    Read the articles and the comments under them; lots of very informative comments that will help you wrap your brain around this Trust Law matter.

    Watch Dean’s videos on YouTube and understand, the Founding Father’s set the whole country as a Trust agreement between God-We The People-Government, and our government has capitalized on our ignorance of Trust Law and presumed us into Trustee positions of the united States and/or the UNITED STATES.

    Trustees are toothless; public SERVANTS; slaves. The Founders set it up this way so elected officials/government/courts/judges, etc have NO power as soon as the sign the Oath of Affirmation to be servants to the people aka public servants/public trustees.

    This is a VERY easy fix for us, and it is our ONLY remedy against the tyrants in DC treating us like a bunch slave-servants and not adhering to our demands.

    Why do we get treated like servants? Because we don’t understand our true and proper authority as beneficiaries in the government we created, and the public rats/servants/trustees are using our own ignorance against us.

    Hopefully now you’ll understand the REAL reason they are trying to get rid of the county sheriff: Because he is the ONLY law enforcement officer named in the Constitution; he was elected by the beneficiaries of the Trust to enforce the demands of the beneficiaries upon the trustees (government).

    People who are just now seeing this, please check out the links I’ve posted in this post and other above and pass this information to Sheriff Joe, Inforwars.com, John Stossel, Benn Swann’s, any and all local news papers, news stations, etc.

    Our remedy to this entire situation is so simple, it’s scary.

    Start acting like the beneficiaries of the Trust we are and take back all of our power granted to us in the Trust agreement aka united States Constitution.

  90. It is alarming to know how pervasive the attack against the Constitution has become. My husband and I have a daily calendar with little Cash Cab questions mimicing the tv. show. Today’s question of the day asks about presidential eligibility. One of the criteria listed is ” U.S. birth certificate”. It is discouraging to see “Natural Born Citizen” downgraded in even the most apolitical format.

    I have never been a Romney supporter but I will vote for him against Mr. soetero in a heartbeat.

  91. Well HockeyFan, good luck with that. Not one of the candidates or potential candidates, besides Trump, has even mentioned the eligibility issue let alone becoming a ‘birther’. I will not be part of getting Obama a second term and watch my country and my freedom make a last curtain call. I have two beautiful grandchildren whose future will be trashed if Obama continues on his merry way breaking the mold of what it is to be an American and what our country represents. I am not happy with Romney either–I’m a Palin/West fan—but I absolutely loathe Obama and will never do anything that remotely helps him get another term. Never.

  92. The Lord said “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you shall be no priest to me: seeing you have forgotten the law of your God, I will also forget your children” (Hosea 4:6)

    Understand something if you will: We The People (inspired by God) created a Trust agreement between God, Us, and those who wish to be public servants. That Trust Agreement is the US Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land on this (E)State aka America. That (E)State has many other (E)States that make up the entire (E)State known as America.

    We are dealing with Trust and Estate Law, that’s it.

    We The Beneficiaries vote those public servants into a position of “occupancy” of that office (ie: presidents/congressman/senators/judges, etc.) to protect our life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. When the people who came to us and asked us for their vote to represent us as public servants/trustees, and we as a collective group of beneficiaries decide to vote him/her into that trustee position, we have them sign and Oath of Affirmation stating they agree 100% to follow the laws of the Trust agreement we have setup; that Oath they sign takes ALL OF THEIR POWER away from them. They are no longer beneficiaries of the Trust agreement, they are now trustees that have ZERO power to do anything against the demands we’ve laid out in the Trust agreement (US Constitution).

    So now you understand the power structure as it is MEANT to be.

    Executor-Beneficiary-Trustee = God-We The People-Government as seen here … http://www.werone.co/freedom/trust_law.html

    Otherwise known as the Holy Trinity. Remember, the nation was founded on Christian principals and God; it’s carved in stone everywhere you go “In God We TRUST”.

    We are the Beneficiaries of the Last Living Will and Testament of God, the Holy Bible, rooted in Trust Law.

    The people are the POWER houses in the Trust agreement; always have been, but our ignorance and failure to stay involved in our government has allowed the greedy Trustees (over time and trickery) to presume themselves into a position of authority (beneficiaries) and by word trickery and brainwashing through the public school system, news, etc. conditioned us, the people into believing we are the Trustees (servants).

    They did it with the help of their attorneys I might add, and this is why we cannot use attorney’s to help us; they have a sworn allegiance to the Crown (BAR Assoc aka British Accreditation Registry); it’s a conflict of interest, and they do not have your best interest at heart.

    The Lord said “Woe to you, lawyers! for you have taken away the key of knowledge: you entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in you hindered” (Luke 11:52)

    That’s why they take all the land from us; get away with taxing us; take away our rights on a daily basis, is because they are playing the roles of beneficiaries of the united States of America Trust agreement (the US Constitution) and the roles of beneficiaries of the Corporation known as the UNITED STATES all at the same time, and if we’re stupid enough to let them get away with it, then they are more than happy to let you continue to believe YOU are the servant slaves (trustees) and THEY are the real masters (beneficiaries).

    It’s just a simple presumption of role reversal that’s letting them run am-mock in the Nations Capitol and all the State Capitols in the country.

    Know Your Roles and Govern Yourselves Accordingly, or you’ll someday end up being governed by your inferiors 🙂

    Go to work people; study the information in the links I’ve provided and read all the comments under the articles; watch the videos, etc.

    Dust yourselves off; stand up and rebut the presumption and trickery and force the public rats/trustees/slaves to do their jobs or we’ll kick them out of the office we are allowing them to “Occupy” right now.

    If the judges in the courts don’t want to play their proper roles as public servants/trustees, then it’s up to us to educate our County Sheriffs and take them to court with us and demand they do their jobs and enforce the wishes of the beneficiaries upon the servant trustees.

    Ask the Judge if their a public servant; if they took an oath; get the oath on/in the record, and as soon as they admit they are public servants (which they are), that’s where you’ve got-em!!! Because if they are public servants, that means they took that oath; and if they don’t abide by oath; we start working on taking their bonds.

    Remember, this is the question:

    By what authority do you the public servant/trustee/slave have to Administer this (E)State aka America in any way other than you agreed to by way of Trust (US Constitution) agreement you signed and took an oath to abide by, are you passing laws; running rough shod over us; taxing us (IRS); imprisoning us; hiding natural cures from us (FDA); creating new diseases (CDC); stealing our children (CPS); spying on us (CIA); building camps to put us in (FEMA); and basically destroying our lives by no legal authority to do so?

    We didn’t put you there to run amok and do what you damn well please; we put you there by way of contract/trust agreement, that we made you sign away your power as beneficiaries and appointed you as TRUSTEES occupying that office to see our demands as the true beneficiaries are met. And if you fail or refuse to follow those demands, then we will, by way of the County Sheriff, force you out of those positions immediately and punish you with the laws you agreed to abide by AND the laws you agreed to be punished by in the Trust agreement.

    People, they just turned the whole thing upside down and are now operating under the presumption that We The People are the Trustee/Slaves to them.

    Now do you understand the power of the Constitution and Trust Law.
    That document is not meant to enslave and punish and tax you and I. It’s meant to enslave, punish and tax those who agreed to follow and abide by it, the Trustees aka Public Trustees aka Public Servants.

    They’re just holding a mirror in front of us, it’s that simple. Just a magic trick, a sleight of hand if you will.

    Well, we’ve got news for our Public Trustees: The Gig Is Up!

  93. CitizenWells,
    Your hard earned taxpayer dollars at work.


    Does this mean that the DOJ helped put out a bounty on a US citizen? Is that illegal, or am I in some kind of twilight zone were we still believed we had a Constitution?


  94. In the last election, citizens didn’t like the Republican candidate so they didn’t vote. That’s how we got Øbama! Anybody remember this slogan? VOTE and the choice is ours. DON’T VOTE and the choice is theirs.

    Now we know why Øbama wanted high gas prices, so he has an excuse to take control the oil industry……..

    Obama pitchs $52M plan to regulate oil markets

    President Obama on Tuesday urged Congress to help strengthen federal supervision of international oil markets, amid pressure from U.S. voters to take action on rising gasoline prices.

    The president wants Congress to increase penalties for market manipulation and empower regulators to increase the amount of money energy traders are required to put behind their transactions.

    “Congress should do all of this right away,” the president said Tuesday during a White House speech in the Rose Garden.

    Read more:

  95. Showdown:
    Iran Must Be Stopped
    John Bolton Reveals Why America and Israel Must Act Now to Stop a Second Holocaust


    Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton delivers a clear — and dire — message in a Newsmax magazine special report: Iran’s quest for nuclear weapons poses a grave and immediate threat to the United States and world peace.

    And in his exclusive Newsmax article “Showdown,” Bolton declares: “Iran’s plan for a second Holocaust must be stopped.”

    Bolton cites Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta’s assertion that Tehran could fabricate a nuclear weapon “within about a year” — and warns that many analysts believe it could come sooner.

    Time is running out for both Israel and the United States.

    Bolton argues that either or both must launch a pre-emptive strike to stop Tehran.

    But such action will stretch Israel’s military capabilities to the hilt and might expose Americans to a new wave of terrorist attacks.

  96. In moderation at 2:35 Help please….thanks!

  97. The South | April 17, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    The South | April 17, 2012 at 1:29 pm |

    Okay, okay…… You’ve made your point over and over again. I’ve noticed that you have also flooded the Ron Paul site that you have linked to. Don’t you think that this is a bit of overkill on something that is really on the “fringe”? If it has any merit at all, it will succeed. If not, it will fail. No wonder the Ron Paul site classified it as “off topic”, much to your chagrin.

    According to your analysis you have discovered the Mother Lode solution to most of our problems. Yikes!! We folks here are not crazy.

    If this so-called remedy is such a startling discovery, why isn’t Ron Paul jumping up and down over it?

  98. cabbyaz, you (just like our elected public servant/trustees) have made another presumption, and I’m rebutting your presumption and asking you to prove your claim:

    Prove your claim it’s a “fringe” idea and “off topic” as you say. Is it just because other haven’t realized it yet, and you’re waiting for approval from them before you jump on the band wagon and agree?

    Your ignorance (as well as mine, until now) of the law is the reason we are in this mess to begin with. I’m still waiting on you to rebut my claim the birth certificate is proof of an Estate by way of the Registrars Seal embossed on the document; are you still searching for that answer too?

    That’s public challenge #1 to you above.

    I’m also making the claim right now that YOU are an individual and collective investor in the Corporation known as the UNITED STATES, and that your birth certificate is your receipt of “equitable” title in the corp/person, and I am also making the claim that YOU are an actual beneficiary of the (E)State known as America, as well as your home (E)State (wherever that may be), by way of a Trust agreement (US Constitution), and I’m also making the claim, that the public servants are actually Trustees and have usurped their legal authority and presumed themselves into a position as beneficiaries.

    Those are collectively challenge #2 to you above.

    NOTE: Just because everyone on this forum and elsewhere, hasn’t quite wrapped their heads around what’s happening; and haven’t quite grasped the idea that we have a very easy fix in this mess, doesn’t mean the “fringe theory” is not what it is: The Law, which is Trust Law; which is enforceable immediately.

    The courts (all of them) have public servants (trustees) presuming their REAL masters (beneficiaries/the people) into a position of trustee by way of contracting them with the court by the act of acknowledging the “name” or by the act of hiring an attorney to represent them, which automatically labels you as an incompetent fool who has no business administrating any (E)State, and the judge then immediately takes over the role as the Administrator and now you are the Trustee, and now the Sheriff is going to do exactly what his boss (the beneficiary/administrator) tells him to do.

    I’ve posted the proof all over this thread and others, it’s there for you to see, if only you will open your eyes and see. It’s so easy it seems ridiculous to many, but it is the truth.

    When has the truth ever been complicated? They have spent years keeping us busy chasing our tails with picketing/elections/news etc. so we would never see the real simplicity of the con, and it has worked, until now.

    Watch the videos above, read the links, understand the simplicity of it, and let’s all take action!

    NOTE: Very soon someone in their individual capacity or as a collective group of beneficiaries are going to catch on to what’s really happening here and the courts are going to get slammed with lawsuits from beneficiaries of the Trust claiming breach of trust by trustees (public servant, Obama, et al), and your going to witness just how powerful this Revelation really is.

    When that happens (and TRUST me, it’s going to happen) will you still be around calling the idea “fringe” and mocking me for my efforts to wake up the public, or will you then be the one spamming the boards with the newly revealed information along side me?

    I Sincerely hope it is the latter.

    Peace and God Bless.

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