February 9, 2012, Obama lies continue, Economy and jobs, Diversions cloud true picture, Most people are worse off, Deficit soars

February 9, 2012, Obama lies continue, Economy and jobs, Diversions cloud true picture, Most people are worse off, Deficit soars

“Guilford (Large NC County) appears on it’s way to a third consecutive year with annual jobless rates in double digits. Economists say that likely hasn’t happened since the Great Depression.”…Greensboro News Record December 2, 2011

“the Times of the nineteenth of December had published the official forecasts of the output of various classes of consumption goods in the fourth quarter of 1983, which was also the sixth quarter of the Ninth Three-Year Plan. Today’s issue contained a statement of the actual output, from which it appeared that the forecasts were in every instance grossly wrong. Winston’s job was to rectify the original figures by making them agree with the later ones.”…George Orwell, “1984″

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”...George Orwell, “1984″

Lies, Lies and more Obama Lies.

It’s the economy again stupid.

If Obama has improved economic conditions, you wouldn’t know it in NC, or most other states for that matter.

I have not noticed people in the streets rejoicing.
Let’s begin with gas prices, which affect the price of almost all other goods. Gas prices have risen again in NC and Obama just recently pandered to his core support, the far left, and said no to the Canadian pipeline.

From Citizen Wells  September 21, 2011.

“One of the biggest, if not biggest drains on the economy, one exacerbated by Obama and his cronies, is gasoline prices. This affects the cost of everything and is killing our economy. The left are so  concerned about theoretical environmental damage and emulating Europeans that they disregard the plight of average Americans. Below is a chart showing the rise in fuel prices during the Obama reign.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/middle-class-incomes-fell-in-past-decade-between-2000-and-2010-incomes-fell-in-2010-adjusted-for-inflation-gas-prices/

 

From Investors Business Daily February 8, 2012.
“The American public’s dependence on the federal government shot up 23% in just two years under President Obama, with 67 million now relying on some federal program, according to a newly released study by the Heritage Foundation.

The conservative think tank’s annual Index of Dependence on Government tracks money spent on housing, health, welfare, education subsidies and other federal programs that were “traditionally provided to needy people by local organizations and families.”

The increase under Obama is the biggest two-year jump since Jimmy Carter was president, the data show.”

http://news.investors.com/Article/600452/201202080802/government-dependence-jumps-under-president-obama.htm

From ABC News February 7, 2012.

“Corporate Profits Aren’t What They Seem”

“As companies close their books on the final three months of last year, the big ones that make up the Standard & Poor’s 500 stock index appear likely to earn about $230 billion. That would be $12.6 billion more than a year earlier.

But the increase, 5.8 percent, is less than half the speed at which quarterly profits grew the first nine months of 2011. In the average quarter since the beginning of 2010, earnings have grown five times as fast.

Analysts expect profit growth to accelerate later this year. But so far, almost all the growth comes from two companies, one of them among America’s most favorite, the other among its most hated — Apple and the bailed-out insurance company AIG.

Take away those two companies and profits for the remaining 498 are expected to grow a measly 1.1 percent, according to FactSet, a provider of financial data.”

“The immediate future looks about the same. For this quarter, which ends March 31, profits for the S&P 500 are expected to be up about 1 percent from the year before. And that’s with Apple and AIG thrown in.

“Were the economy to sustain a shock, this makes us more vulnerable,” says Barry Knapp, chief U.S. stock strategist at Barclays Capital.

In a report Thursday highlighting “unusually weak” results so far, Goldman Sachs strategist David Kostin noted that stock analysts have been cutting their estimates for what S&P companies will make for all of 2012.”

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/corporate-profits-15525353#.TzLac1wV33c

From Citizen Wells December 4, 2011.

“data released Thursday by the Employment Security Commission of North Carolina show that Guilford appears on it’s way to a third consecutive year with annual jobless rates in double digits.

Economists say that likely hasn’t happened since the Great Depression.

“I suspect we would have to go back to the 1930′s (to find that),” said Don Jud, professor emeritus at UNCG’s Bryan School of Business and Economics.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/nc-unemployment-worst-since-great-depression-uncg-and-government-spending-spree-other-peoples-money-obama-supporters-predictable/

Latest NC unemployment data.

“Unemployment rates increased in 93 of North Carolina’s 100 counties in December. Rates decreased in four counties and remained the same in three.”
 
 
 
From Citizen Wells December 3, 2011.
 

“The unemployment rate, derived from a separate survey of households, was forecast to hold at 9 percent. The decrease in the jobless rate reflected a 278,000 gain in employment at the same time 315,000 Americans left the labor force.

“While the rate is certainly a very favorable rate, I would highlight that a lot of it is because people pulled out of the workforce,” Eric Rosengren, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, said in a speech yesterday.”
“RUSH:”

“Well, Happy Holidays. They don’t do Merry Christmas in the media. But we’re back, it’s done, they got the headline: “Unemployment, 8.6%!” Now, the truth of the matter is — and Bloomberg News even points out that the only way — it’s a corrupt number. It is a corrupt number. Folks, the number of people who have quit looking for work in the last few weeks is 315,000. Those are the people have thrown up their hands after 99 weeks or more of being unemployed; and they’ve said, “I’m quitting. I’m not looking.” So they’re not counted. Therefore, the universe of jobs available in the country is down by 315,000. That is the labor force participation rate. The labor force participation rate is a meager 64%. It fell to 64% from 64.2%. So the 0.2% drop equals 315,000 people leaving the workforce.

That means there are 315,000 fewer jobs to have, so the universe of jobs has been steadily shrinking. What was the number of jobs created? It’s 120,000 jobs. It’s 120, 126,000, whatever. That’s in the ballpark. That number of jobs created can lower unemployment rate 0.4%, almost one half of a percent? Creating 120,000 new jobs can do that? That alone tells us how small the labor force participation rate is. That tells us how small the universe of available jobs in the country is, when creating 120,000 — and we still have, don’t forget, over 400,000 applications for unemployment compensation reported yesterday. So just 120,000 new jobs can lower the unemployment rate almost a half a point. That’s not possible without that 315,000 figure, the 315,000 people who have just walked away.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/nc-unemployment-worst-since-great-depression-uncg-and-government-spending-spree-other-peoples-money-obama-supporters-predictable/

From Rush Limbaugh January 06, 2012.
 
“But now back to this 8.5%, folks.  They are celebrating, even this as fraudulent as it is, this 8.5% is fraudulent.  The news is out there something like 200,000 jobs created, surging in December.  However, 42,000 of them are seasonally adjusted couriers and messengers.  In December, a category called couriers and messengers, they’re hired during the holiday season, they’re temps.  Forty-two thousand of them.  They will not be counted in January and February ’cause they’re let go.  But, look, we could nitpick here on the numbers.  That misses the point.  The point here is what we were talking about yesterday.  The truth is not what is important here; it’s what’s being reported.  I could sit here all day and tell you how these jobs numbers are not accurate.  It’s not gonna matter.  The news is Obama’s policies are working.  The news is it’s finally kicking in.  The news is the economy is growing. The news is jobs are being created.”
 

“So 8.5% unemployment, millions of unemployed people, millions of jobs lost, millions of people on government benefits because they can’t find jobs — and this is the progress we have, this is what we have to show for trillions of dollars in deficit spending. Trillions of dollars! The unemployment rate is still higher than when Obama took office. The media is reporting, “The unemployment rate lower than it’s been in three years!” They don’t tell you lower than since Obama was inaugurated, but that’s the truth: $5 trillion in deficit later, we have an 8.5% unemployment rate. That’s it? This is what we’re supposed to party down over? And of course we have to provide the perspective here because few others will.

So we’ve got $6 trillion in new deficits. We ignore the millions who have dropped out of the workforce, we ignore all those who are holding part time rather than full-time jobs, and the best Obama can come with — the best the Democrats can come up with, the best the media can come up with — is 8.5%, and we’re supposed to celebrate today. How much have these jobs cost? Morning news reports this is a good picture. There are six million fewer jobs today than there were in 2008, folks! There are six million fewer jobs available in this country than there were three years ago. The unemployment rate is 15.2% when you include those who have dropped out and those who want full-time jobs but have to take part-time jobs. That’s the latest figure. So the Obama plan: Shrink the workforce, expand the welfare state, and then claim economic progress. Then slash the military, take that money and subsidize public sector employees who vote reliably Democrat, like NEA members.”
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/06/it_s_party_time_8_5_unemployment

From News Max February 3, 2012.

 
“Rush: Obama’s Jobless Numbers Are ‘Corrupt’
Friday, 03 Feb 2012 01:18 PM
 
The jobless rate reported today is “corrupt as it can be” because President Barack Obama’s administration has decreased the size of the workforce, Rush Limbaugh said on his radio show.
 
According to the Department of Labor, employers added almost a quarter of a million jobs in January. According to Limbaugh, it eliminated 2 ½ million positions.
 
“The number of jobs not available to be filled exploded by an unprecedented, record number of 1.2 million,” he said. “That’s not a typo. That’s part of this 2 ½ million fewer jobs. It is corrupt as it can be.”
 
He said the shrinking of “the overall universe of jobs” led to the misconstrued dip in the unemployment rate, to 8.3, from 8.5 in December.
 
“No president has ever been re-elected when the unemployment rate’s over 8 percent, so guess what it’s going to be by the time we get to Election Day,” he said.”
 
 
Your assignment?
 
Make certain all of those around you know the truth.
 

59 responses to “February 9, 2012, Obama lies continue, Economy and jobs, Diversions cloud true picture, Most people are worse off, Deficit soars

  1. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    I hate to use the Costa Concordia as a metaphor but it looks like we have a cheat and a scoundrel as a Captain of our Ship Of State. Looking at the behavior of our group I get the feeling that NO ONE wants the job as Captain!!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2097999/Costa-Concordia-Francesco-Schettino-pictured-Domnica-Cemortan-month-crash.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

  2. jbjd said
    “Argue all you want about who saved whom. Common sense says, if the Catholic church had wanted to save Jews, they could have. Denmark did.”
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/denmark.html

    —————————————————————————————————

    Oh yes those great WW2 Nazi collaborator Danes. They deserve a lot’s of credit.
    If they had bothered to defend their country in the first place, who knows how many lives could have been saved. And I’m not just talking about Jews.

    Sheesh………

  3. “jbjd” is a filthy leftist, in case you haven’t noticed.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The 1943-1944 American Jewish Yearbook said that Pius XII “took an unequivocal stand against the oppression of Jews throughout Europe.” In his February 18, 1944 letter to Msgr. Amleto Cicognani, the apostolic delegate in Washington, D.C., Rabbi Maurice Perlzweig, the political director of the World Jewish Congress, wrote that “the repeated interventions of the Holy Father on behalf of Jewish Communities in Europe has evoked the profoundest sentiments of appreciation and gratitude from Jews throughout the world.” (Actes, X, p. 140).

    Two important Jewish leaders who worked with the Vatican to save Jews also expressed similar sentiments. “The people of Israel will never forget what His Holiness and his illustrious delegates, inspired by the eternal principles of religion which form the very foundations of true civilization, are doing for our unfortunate brothers and sisters in this most tragic hour of history, which is living proof of divine Providence in this world,” Chief Rabbi Herzog declared on February 28. (Actes, X, p. 292). In his April 7 letter to the papal nuncio in Romania, Chief Rabbi Alexander Shafran of Bucharest wrote, “It is not easy for us to find the right words to express the warmth and consolation we experienced because of the concern of the Supreme Pontiff, who offered a large sum to relive the sufferings of deported Jews… The Jews of Romania will never forget these facts of historic importance…” (Actes, X, pp. 291-292).

  4. jd, remove the attack & I will approve.

  5. Roland Martin suspended from CNN! Yeah!

  6. He was always in the tank for Obama. I thought Roland looked a little angry yesterday. So glad he’s gone. Made an inappropriate tweet during the Super Bowl.

  7. Apparently a whole lot of Americans still think that whoever the POTUS is only needs to wave a magic wand and VOILA…….2,000,000 jobs instantly materialise out of the CLEAR BLUE. It is clear that the OBOTS are making them believe that Soetoro can CREATE millions of jobs overnight. Well lets all watch closely after he waves his magic wand and yells SHAZAM. A lightning bolt is supposed to strike leaving a huge hole in the ground which is filled with JOBS. Oh sure, pray tell who will be the employers who offered the jobs. This is typical LIBERAL reasoning. Designed to appeal to MORONS. The truth of the matter still remains until business owners see expansion of the economy and a much improved financial,and general business environment they are UNLIKELY to be hiring anybody. Business conditions must improve FIRST. Anybody who says he can produce INSTANT JOBS is a LIAR, and doesn’t know much about how business works. Who has been telling Americans that he can produce a million jobs overnight. Hint ……he is a CANDIDATE for the office of POTUS.

  8. Cold Case Posse Sources: Has Sheriff Joe’s Cold Case Posse Investigation Been Delayed?(An Editorial)

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/02/cold-case-posse-sources-has-sheriff.html

  9. A Crazy Old Coot

    Oldsalt, in my opinion, POTUS cannot creat jobs. It will take POTUS and congress working together to create a economic climate that business will see and can then hire workers. Until all the unnecessary rules and regulations are revoked, business will not create the jobs.

    Something that “none” of the candiates understand is that the President can’t do anything (legally) without congress.

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

  10. Rob | February 8, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    Thanks Rob………..What is up is down???

    Not really sure what to believe right now..but I have said in the past that I haven’t put much weight into Orly’s efforts…I avoided her site for the viruses and although I admired her tenacity, I never held much hopes for anything she or several others have done.

    We have already discussed the issues of a reputable, noteworthy attorney working with her, but that never happened…Looks like seeing is believing!

  11. Orly thing fasinates me. how can a dentist with a business survie making ends meet and all this time to write briefs and research. The work she does requires 3 or 4 people to to be done right. I just wonder sometimes if she is a plant for disinformation and part of the rabbit hole that wont ever be uncovered. we all know hes a fruad dah!!! I am behind her but also i dont dive in to far when things dont always add up

  12. Your assignment?

    Make certain all of those around you know the truth.
    *******************************
    YES SIR!!

    Some people look at me in disbelief, as if I am making it up, about Usurper Obama. That’s how ignorant some people are, about the natural born Citizen requirement for POTUS. When I tell them Obama’s father was not a citizen of this country, they wise up pretty fast, and can understand the heritage aspect, of passing the torch to the next American, providing they are a natural born Citizen. Born in this country to Mom, and Dad, who are Citizens of the U.S.A.

  13. Tina | February 8, 2012 at 6:50 pm |

    Roland Martin suspended from CNN! Yeah!
    **************************
    I saw this guy go apoplectic when he was informed of the usurper’s forgery, of a birth certificate. He protested a little too vehemently to be honest.

  14. Jack Cashill:

    “Time to expose Obama book fraud”

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/time-to-expose-obama-book-fraud/

  15. Buckle up, America. It’s going to be a very long, hot summer
    OWS & the planned “endgame” for the U.S.

    (quote)
    Are you baffled by the wording, timing and bipartisan support of recent legislation such as the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), the Expatriation Act, SOPA, PIPA and ACTA?

    Are you concerned over the enhancement of domestic security measures that appear to be targeting and incrementally ripping away the rights of law abiding American citizens? Are you concerned about the evolving DHS “domestic extremist” definitions?

    Have you wondered about the true origins of the financial crises and what appears to be a quickening of events in all sectors of our lives? How about the origins of the current “Occupy Movement?” When and why everything started? Who and what is to blame? If so, you’re not alone.

    Read more:
    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/44455

  16. Good reference with full explanations for below: http://www.pfli.org/faq_oc.html

    I know that people are discussing the right to freedom of religion within our Constitution in the fight against O’s latest attempt as dictator. That certainly is true and frankly since the man is not above the Constitution he ought to be impeached….not just have some new bill in opposition to this attempt to negate rights be argued over….again. But….IF the regime continues to try to play a shell game and make this only a question of “contraception” and “rights” of women to that (which of course it also includes sterilization and known abortifacients as well as soon to be forced training of medical students to perform abortions) then we should also recognize the right to life. When they glibly use broadly the term of “contraceptives” as if they are completely benign they need to admit the truth about contraceptives themselves as having abortifacient qualities …how is that?….because they work to make the lining of the uterus inhospitable to the conceived human life (if you will acknowledge that life begins at the moment of conception as science itself does) and such life is then forced out or “aborted” without the conscious knowledge of this happening. How many human lives have also been created and not permitted the usual protection of the mother’s womb because of these chemicals?? So, when they try to use this spin as something innocent and benign and NOT anything to do with the faith/morality question they, once again are not telling you the whole story.

  17. bob strauss | February 8, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    Tina | February 8, 2012 at 6:50 pm |

    Roland Martin suspended from CNN! Yeah!
    **************************
    I saw this guy go apoplectic when he was informed of the usurper’s forgery, of a birth certificate. He protested a little too vehemently to be honest.

    ———————

    Yes. Obama probably sent all his talking points to him. Glad he is gone.

  18. [Yo, Citizen…Look at what I discovered lately on the stupendous net!]

    EMPEROR AND EMPRESS OBAMA

    The Old Testament has time-proven insights into professional vacationers like the Obamas:
    Proverbs 19:10 (NIV): “It is not fitting for a fool to live in luxury – how much worse for a slave to rule over princes!”
    Also Proverbs 30:22 (NIV) which says that the earth cannot bear up under “a servant who becomes king.”
    And Ecclesiastes 5:2-3 (KJV) advises: “let thy words be few…a fool’s voice is known by multitude of words.”
    Although Obama is not descended from slaves, he may feel that he’s destined to become a black-slavery avenger.
    Or maybe an enslaver of all free citizens!
    For some stunning info on Pres. Obama and his fellow traitors, Google “Imam Bloomberg’s Sharia Mosque,” “Michelle Obama’s Allah-day,” “Obama Supports Public Depravity,” “David Letterman’s Hate Etc.,” “Un-Americans Fight Franklin Graham” and also “Sandra Bernhard, Larry David, Kathy Griffin, Bill Maher, Joan Rivers, Sarah Silverman.” Also Google “Islam will purify Jews and Christians” and “Prof. F. N. Lee’s ISLAM IN THE BIBLE [PDF].”
    Since Christians are commanded to ask God to send severe judgment on persons who commit and support the worst forms of evil (see I Cor. 5 and note “taken away”), Christians everywhere should constantly pray that the Lord will soon “take away” or at least overthrow all US leaders (including subversive, America-hating, Jesus-bashing Hollywood shmucks) who continue to sear their conscience, who dangle every unspeakably filthy vice before young people, and who arrogantly trample the God-given rights of the majority including the rights of the unborn. Do we need a second American Revolution?
    After the Obamas are kicked out of the White House, there will be no place on earth where they can escape from scowling folks who wish to belatedly express their gratitude, in tangible ways, to the Obamas who tried to destroy the greatest nation ever.
    For the record I’ll predict that after the Nov. 2012 election, Obama will try something so unthinkably insane that he will be physically restrained and locked up – and remember where you heard this first!

  19. Send this to everyone you know……it is my understanding that US Sheriffs are more powerful than the PREZ……let’s take back our country people…..WAKE UP AMERICA…..

    United States Sheriffs Uniting To End State And Federal Tyranny!

    http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/02/08/united-states-sheriffs-uniting-to-end-state-and-federal-tyranny/

  20. News from Larry Sinclair at http://www.lsnewsgroup.com/2012/02/08/cpac-check-in-completed-tomorrow-we-blog-live/

    CPAC Check In Completed: Tomorrow We Blog Live
    February 8, 2012By Lawrence SinclairCheck-in has been completed with CPAC 2012 and I am getting everything organized and put in my bag for the start at 9:00 AM tomorrow. CPAC is going to be busy and there are going to be a lot of people covering this event.

    I arrived early for check-in as I refused to wait until in the morning to get ready….

  21. I find it curious that during one of the last few debates, the topic of contraception came up. Everyone thought it was a ridiculous waste of time. I am sure they got several good sound bites of Romney dismissing the question. Now, a month later this topic is consuming the networks.

    Sounds like a trial balloon where the moderators (all in collusion with the administration and the DNC) had a heads up at least a month before Sebelius’ decison to create this mandate….

    They think we are all studpid.

  22. oops “stupid”

  23. This is an interesting read.
    Greta Van Susteren’s “Back to Chicago” Moment…

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/02/08/greta-van-susterens-back-to-chicago-moment-insider-related/

  24. Rick Santorum should get a boast from this acknowledgment.

    Inhofe: Only one candidate addresses the four major issues
    … The four areas are fiscal (budget deficits, which Inhofe blames entirely on Barack Obama), the decline of the military, energy production, and the rapid growth of the regulatory regime. Inhofe says the best candidate of the four remaining to deal with all four issues is … Rick Santorum. It’s not a formal endorsement, but it certainly is a key statement of support from a well-respected conservative on Capitol Hill….
    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/09/inhofe-only-one-candidate-addresses-the-four-major-issues/

  25. Anyone accessing the link I provided could read the history: Denmark saved Jews. They didn’t only talk about saving Jews, or question the propriety of Nazis murdering Jews. They didn’t encourage Jews to pretend they were not Jewish; or pretend a handful of Danish Jews were Protestant. Rather, when their ambassador learned what the Germans intended, he alerted the nation; and they mobilized to physically transport virtually the entire Jewish population of Denmark, to safe havens where they would not subsequently be rounded up by a German occupying government, and transported to extermination camps. .

    Surely you are not suggesting that when it comes to saving someone’s life, ‘talking’ equates with ‘doing.’

  26. Wow, you just don’t get it. The only reason the Nazi’s didn’t go in and slaughter the Jews was because the Danes were Nazi collaborators.
    Hitler gave them leway.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaboration_with_the_Axis_Powers_during_World_War_II

    BTW, The Danes were fine rounding up and sending Danish communists to their death in work camps. Do you still want to heap praise on them ?

  27. The Obama Ballot Challenges: A Crisis of Confidence
    By Monte Kuligowski

    Just a few months ago, FOX News reported on polling data which suggested that “[i]f Americans could cast a ‘confidence’ vote in the style of European parliaments, President Barack Obama would not fare well. A 56-percent majority would give his administration a vote of ‘no confidence.'”

    Ample evidence abounds for Americans to have no confidence that the economic justice activist-turned-politician is working out for the good of the country. Even at the most fundamental level, doubt remains as to whether the man occupying the White House is constitutionally eligible for the job.

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/the_obama_ballot_challenges_a_crisis_of_confidence.html#ixzz1ltn16fsz

  28. Mornin folks!

    The strong voices of protest….thank God:

    read more:

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/southern-baptist-leader-we-will-not-comply-with-hhs-mandate

    NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, February 8, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) – One of the most influential evangelical leaders in the United States says Christians should go to jail rather than comply with the Obama administration’s mandate to provide all contraception, including abortion-inducing drugs, in their health care plans.

    Dr. Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC), told LifeSiteNews.com “we will not comply” with the Dept. of Health and Human Services’ mandate requiring religious institutions to cover abortifacient products such as Plan B, Ella, and the IUD.

    “We want the law changed, or else we’re going to write our letters from the Nashville jail, just like Dr. King wrote his from the Birmingham jail,” Dr. Land said.

  29. Observer, thanks for the info re. Richard Land. I am so glad that he has taken this stand, as I belong to a SB church. He has always been strong pro-life, but this is a courageous position to take against the government.

  30. The other day I heard Dr. Betsy McCaughey on Cavuto’s program (Fox) warn us about another deadly provision in Obamacare that will kick in in October of this year.
    A poster at Lucianne’s describes very well what I heard:

    Reply 1 – Posted by: KarenJ1, 2/8/2012 10:37:02 AM     (No. 8341927)
    Betsy McCaughey was on Cavuto’s show yesterday and said that contained in the abomination that is 0bamacare is a horrifying requirement. It is to go into effect in October 2012 that hospitals with the least Medicare payments are rewarded and hospitals that allow a longer stay are penalized. So a separate “death panel” is not required, it is already in the law. This is terrifying and appalling.

    http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=664458
    *************************
    Dr. McCaughey amplified the above by saying that if a hospital can reduce its care to Medicare patients (old people) they will be rewarded under Obamacare; those who don’t follow those orders will suffer the consequences. We all know what that means – If a Medicare patient needs certain treatment that the hospital thinks is too expensive, OUT YOU GO!! No “ifs”, “ands” or “buts”.

    Back in 1973 when Roe v. Wade became operative, folks were warned then that eventually wrongful death would move from the youngest and most helpless (unborn babies) to those at the other end of the spectrum – the aged. Euthanasia, here we come – We are reaching the bottom of the slippery slope that started 39 years ago.

  31. Help – in moderation at 11:47 am.
    (re. Obamacare)

  32. It is almost incomprehensible to me that upwards of 20% of registered Republicans are leaning toward Obama in 2012. Huh? WTF? Amazing if true. I guess American is really going off the rails.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/20-of-republicans-leaning-to-obama/

  33. Cabby – AZ | February 9, 2012 at 11:09 am |
    ===========================
    Cabby, I see that Drudge has placed it on his headline…..couldn’t link from there…..must be getting loaded. I grew up in Louisville, KY where the lovely Southern Baptist Theological Seminary’s school/campus is. They’ve retained their conservative/orthodox stance on the topics of the day as I know of.

  34. Gianni | February 9, 2012 at 12:15 pm |

    It is almost incomprehensible to me that upwards of 20% of registered Republicans are leaning toward Obama in 2012. Huh? WTF? Amazing if true. I guess American is really going off the rails.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    That’s because the MEDIA is pushing candidates like MITTENS, NEWTER and INsanetorum…….if Dr. Paul had the support of the media you would see him kicking everyone’s behind….he already is polling higher than any of the RINO’s against BO without the MEDIA support……he has the INDEPENDENT vote and that is what will swing the election….this is why RP supporters are all saying RON PAUL or NO ONE at all……RP is the only one who can beat BO because his message and his policies resonate across ALL political spectrum’s!

  35. Gianni | February 9, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
    It is almost incomprehensible to me that upwards of 20% of registered Republicans are leaning toward Obama in 2012.
    ********************
    I read the same thing and am appalled! Are peoples’ heads buried in the sand? Their thinking is surely impaired. If they are turned off more by the negativity of the Repubs in debate, etc., than the crimes of Obama, then something is terribly wrong.

  36. jbjd said
    “Argue all you want about who saved whom. Common sense says, if the Catholic church had wanted to save Jews, they could have. Denmark did.

    Before I type more, I am Catholic. Those Catholics whom have had the grace of a Jesuit Education, have the ability to see that the catholic church has made mistakes though history, and also done many good things. There were clearly elements within vatican city that were Nazi sympathizers, and even helped war criminals escape to South America. There were also those entities that helped the oppressed. Much like a diversity of people, some do the right thing and some do not.

    The Catholic church supported Obama because of it’s views on humanity and social justice. I think it was a political decision that they regret now, but they still support social justice. Jesus once said “Give onto Caesar what is Caesar’s, give onto God what is God’s.” IMHO–and it’s not worth much here, the Catholic Church should stay out of political discussions in sovereign countries governments and concentrate on peoples faith and relationship with God.

    The Jews in this country have supported the Democratic party without fail, even in the face of Obama. Obama has followed the path of Adolf Hitler, for those whom don’t know your history now is the time to learn about the past. Obama and Adolf Hitler, both privately and by actions, early on displayed an intolerance for Jews. While elements within the Catholic church have not always chosen wisely, I have never seen an institutional fostered resentment as I have seen with the current US administration within the Church.

    Pete

  37. CW,
    Caterpillar’s coming your way!

    Caterpillar Inc. announced that it would not be building its new North American plant in Illinois.
    Finance reported:

    Caterpillar Inc. will not be building its new North American plant anywhere in the state of Illinois, officials with the company told local leaders Tuesday, with part of the reason being continued concerns about the business climate in the state.

    The company will instead focus on a location closer to its division headquarters in Cary, North Carolina, Peoria County officials were told in an email sent to them shortly after the close of business and later obtained by the Journal Star.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/02/caterpillar-says-it-will-not-build-new-north-american-plant-in-illinois/

  38. zach
    Really interesting post, which brings up what I would tacitly refer to as a talking point.
    Wells has forwarded a reqest for his readers to pass along information concerning our present state of affairs…not that many of us haven’t already been doing that.
    Many times I notice that bringing up Obama as a focal point in conversation, merely serves as a “hot button” and immediately shuts down the dialogue. I notice also that the public at large is vastly behind us, both in terms of knowledge and interest. The simple fact is that Obama is merely a symptom of a much larger problem, that being that the U.S. is now, in fact, under the “control” of a cabal. Notice that the operative word is “control” as opposed to “leadership” which is a term I often see used, even here, to describe those now in charge. Granted, this is merely a problem of semantics, but it significantly changes the entire thrust of the conversation. You are no longer attacking “their guy” but have moved the conversation more to a point of interest in revealing a viable threat. A threat to their very way of life.
    The “cabal” is more easily identified by those who have implemented and continue to sustain it by virtue of abuse of their “positions of trust” in this administration…i.e…Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd and the multitude minions of their supporters, including Soros.
    The reason I refer to the article zach posted is that it simply draws attention to the flow of the “money” which is the life blood of this cabal. As in the human body, it flows from central sources, and through a network of interconnected arteries to nourish the extremities…of which the U.S. is only one….and then trickles down, carrying it’s deadly disease, into our states, and from there into our towns, boards of trustees and, ultimately, our education system….additionally, I believe that Senator McCarthy was right when he rightly identified communism as the insidious vehicle by which this has been accomplished.
    I also believe that, even though elections might indeed change some of this, that, additionally, these people need to be “taken” down whether during their terms or after, thereby sending an irrefutable message to any who may be tempted in the future. Make no mistake, what we are witnessing today is a deliberate,well-conceived, and well-implemented takeover of the United States…..but not “only” the United States”….just look around….and remember, “when the stomach is empty, the mind will swallow anything”….

  39. Jonah, I saw that.
    IL has one of the worst business climates in the nation.

  40. …a post script…I neglected to mention the DNC itself. which has become the functioning arm of the CPUS…(Communist Party of the U.S.)..

  41. Thursday, February 9, 2012

    David Wilcock Releases The Final Sections of Financial Tyranny – What did he say about Madonna?

    LET’S REMEMBER THE BIG PICTURE
    Before we feature our exclusive interviews with the key players in the lawsuit that could defeat Financial Tyranny, let’s step back and look at the Big Picture.
    We now have a compelling storyline of Financial Tyranny, dating back to 1776 with the publishing of Smith’s The Wealth of Nations — and the founding of the Illuminati in Bavaria.
    Click here to start from the beginning if you have not already read the first six sections.
    We have scientific evidence that a monopoly of 1,318 corporations, headed by the Federal Reserve banks, is now earning 80 percent of the world’s wealth. This ‘core’ is in turn being run by a “super-entity” of 147 corporations, most of which are financial institutions.
    The top corporations in the “super-entity” are the Federal Reserve banks — and they created 26 to 29 Trillion dollars in bailouts for their own companies from 2007 to 2010.
    The Rothschilds admitted in their own 1962 biography that Mayer Amschel’s five sons “conquered the world more thoroughly, cunningly and lastingly than any Caesar before or Hitler after them.”
    Nelson Rothschild destroyed the British economy by making the entire market think Napoleon had defeated them. In one single day of trading, he was able to increase his net wealth by 6500 times — and did what Napoleon could not.
    Rothschild conquered Great Britain.
    MANY OTHER DATA POINTS TO CONSIDER
    We gave links to multiple books full of information — now free to read online — proving there was a government-led uprising against the Illuminati in 1784… and a massive worldwide revolt against Freemasonry beginning after William Morgan’s murder in 1826.
    Freemasons openly bragged about controlling the media, the police, the judiciary, the financial system and the government. 45,000 out of 50,000 Masons in the United States — 90 percent — all quit once the scandal broke, and were treated as heroes.
    I believe there is abundant evidence that we are right on the threshold of another historical event like this — only of significantly greater magnitude.
    We have also thoroughly documented how the global media is in the hands of a very small number of corporations.
    We gave compelling evidence that its content is controlled through Operation Mockingbird, which was implemented in the dawning years of the CIA.
    Read more: http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1026-financial-tyranny-final

  42. Re. Ron Paul Support

    Here is a quote from the article Gianni posted:
    “In every case except the match-up against Ron Paul, more than 20 percent of Republican voters said they are more likely to support Obama than the Republican challenger. And Ron Paul is close, as 19 percent of Republicans said they are more likely to support Obama than Paul.”

    “Making the situation more bleak for opponents of Obama, independent voters are apparently quite put off with the Republican nomination fight. While polls last fall showed them leaning Republican by roughly a two-to-one margin, they are now either split evenly or favoring Obama.”
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/20-of-republicans-leaning-to-obama/
    **********************
    Here’s the catch re. Ron Paul – 19% of Rep. said they are more likely to support Obama than Paul. Also, according to the above, independent voters are now either split evenly or favoring Obama. Therefore, Ron Paul is not immune from the trend, regardless of the support he receives.

  43. Pete | February 9, 2012 at 12:58 pm |

    Well spoken, Pete.

  44. coldwarvet 1:03 pm
    I also believe that, even though elections might indeed change some of this, that, additionally, these people need to be “taken” down whether during their terms or after, thereby sending an irrefutable message to any who may be tempted in the future. Make no mistake, what we are witnessing today is a deliberate,well-conceived, and well-implemented takeover of the United States…
    ***********************
    Your analysis is spot on, imho. Senator Joe McCarthy tried but he was vilified by the status quo. We have come into bondage slowly but surely, and there is not going to be a quick fix to remedy the problem.

  45. Got this email:

    Hands Off My Health Care Rally
    The United States Supreme Court, Washington, D.C.
    March 27th at 1:00PM
    Over the past few years, Americans for Prosperity has worked with coalition groups and activists like you to educate the public on the dangers of the President’s health care bill. AFP’s Hands Off My Health Care Tour criss-crossed the nation in 2009 hosting over 300 events and rallies. Then, in late 2009, over 5,000 activists gathered for AFP’s Code Red Rally in Washington.
    We must remind the Court and all of Washington that the President’s health care takeover is an affront to free-market principles and our Constitution. Not only is the individual mandate unconstitutional, but it forces consumers to enter the health insurance market against their will. Click here to read more about the individual mandate.
    Click here to register for the Hands Off My Health Care Rally now!
    Sincerely,
    Tim Phillips
    President, Americans for Prosperity
    P.S. A year ago, I stood with AFP and Tea Party activists in Richmond as the lower court considered the case. In Atlanta, our activists held Hands Off My Health Care signs outside the federal court house. Now, we’ve got to finish the job before the Supreme Court. Click here to register for the Hands Off My Health Care Rally now!

  46. Hi Cabby,
    I fear that McCarthy would even be more vilified today. What I was really about, in my albeit too long diatribe, was to build a framework by which those of us who are vocal, might improve our dialogue by using a rifle approach as opposed to the shotgun method of attacking this deliberately obfuscated subject matter. For instance, EVERYONE here loathes Obama, but that is common knowledge and a false flag in itself so-to-speak. To coin an old phrase; “when your up to your ass in alligators you forget you came to drain the swamp”…i.e. you lose your focus….and believe me we are definitely up to our ass in alligators…..

  47. Just Breaking……………
    Go get the SoBBBBBs

    EWTN Sues U.S. Government
    EWTN ^ | Feb.09 2012
    Posted on Thu Feb 09 2012 12:17:58 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) by mware

    EWTN Sues U.S. Government To Stop Contraception Mandate Network Asks Court to Stop Order to Pay for Immoral Services

    Irondale, AL (EWTN) – EWTN Global Catholic Network filed a lawsuit February 9 in U.S. District Court in Birmingham, Alabama against the Department of Health & Human Services, HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, and other government agencies seeking to stop the imposition of the contraception mandate as well as asking the court for a declaratory judgment that the mandate is unconstitutional. EWTN is the first Catholic organization to file suit since the final HHS rules were published by the Obama administration on January 20, 2012.

    “We had no other option but to take this to the courts,” says EWTN President and CEO Michael P. Warsaw. “Under the HHS mandate, EWTN is being forced by the government to make a choice: either we provide employees coverage for contraception, sterilization and abortion-inducing drugs and violate our conscience or offer our employees and their families no health insurance coverage at all. Neither of those choices is acceptable.”

    The lawsuit was filed on EWTN’s behalf by Mark Rienzi, Kyle Duncan, and Erik Kniffin from the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty.

    “We are taking this action to defend not only ourselves but also to protect other institutions – Catholic and non-Catholic, religious and secular – from having this mandate imposed upon them,” Warsaw continued. “The government is forcing EWTN, first, to inform its employees about how to get contraception, sterilization and abortifacient drugs, a concept known as forced speech. To make the matter worse, the government then will force EWTN to use its donors’ funds to pay for these same morally objectionable procedures or to pay for the huge fines it will levy against us if we fail to provide health care insurance. There is no question that this mandate violates our First Amendment rights. This is a moment when EWTN, as a Catholic organization, has to step up and say that enough is enough. Our hope is that our lawsuit does just that.”

  48. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,813814,00.html

    Interesting article on climate change.
    Breaking Global Warming Taboos
    ‘I Feel Duped on Climate Change’

  49. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Wannah see why Eric Holder has gotten off scott free from any Congressional investigation. He’s getting all the glory for one of the biggest scam giveaways yet

    .California has more than 2 million ‘underwater’ borrowers, whose homes are worth less than their mortgages. New York has some 118,000 homeowners who are underwater.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2098840/Mortgage-giants-pay-26-billion-foreclosure-settlement-deal-bring-relief-struggling-homeowners-reached.html#ixzz1lv0Fd57O

    Notice the two states with the largest problems.

  50. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Get ready to “Man your life vests”!!

  51. http://www.breitbart.tv/santorum-obama-putting-america-on-the-path-of-executing-religious-people/

    The guy gets it and isn’t afraid to hit it straight on. I too have often thought that give O another term and his hatred for the wealthy, creative entrepreneurs will push for something as chaotic as what happened in the French revolution to keep him and his regime in power indefinately. And, yes, the arrest and jailing of religious will come to pass no matter what “accommodations” he promises now. This is one sick man who’ll leave the most dependent and vulnerable alone to die….even within a hospital setting.

  52. JUDGE Napolitano says INsantorum is Anti-Liberty….I AGREE……this quote from RICKY says it all……IMO he is worse than Anti-liberty…..he is for tyranny and murdering innocent civilians who have NOT attacked us….that is NOT being PRO-LIFE!!!! To say the least this guy is completely WACKO and NOT someone I would want having ANY amount of power…….most likely why he was defeated last time he ran in PENNSYLVANIA by 20 points…..

    “One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a Libertarianish right. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues. That is not how traditional conservatives view the world. There is no such society that I’m aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.”

    – Rick Santorum

  53. Constitutional Sheriffs & Peace Officers Association
    by Friends of Liberty Radio Show
    in Education
    Thursday, Feb 9, 2012 7:00PM Pacific Standard Time
    Call in number to speak with the host
    (347) 884-9499

  54. Interested Bystander

    Cabby commented:

    “Here’s the catch re. Ron Paul – 19% of Rep. said they are more likely to support Obama than Paul. Also, according to the above, independent voters are now either split evenly or favoring Obama. Therefore, Ron Paul is not immune from the trend, regardless of the support he receives.”

    My argument would be that with all of the NEGATIVES reported on Paul, it is REMARKABLE how many people still support him. It shows that about 1 in 5 voters HAVE researched him, and understand what his policies are.

    My opinion is that IF Paul was getting POSITIVE reports, his popularity would soar, because it is my belief that the MAJORITY agree with Paul when it comes to personal liberty AND his Foreign policy stance, but have been indoctrinated in to believing that if you express that belief, it is shunned.

    But when you have people LYING about Paul the way Tina does, then Paul has a very steep hill to climb.

    Paul won’t get positive press, because the “powers that be” are afraid they will be exposed.

    Look at the article linked above about the Federal Reserve and the gigantic entity it has become. Paul is the LONE Representative who has CONSISTANTLY said that the Fed was out of control. He offers bill after bill to clean up the mess being thrown down on us, but yet he is vilified that he can’t get support for his legislation.

    Just read the article linked above, and you’ll have a pretty good idea as to WHY.

  55. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Can someone explain to me what contraceptives have to do with women’s health?

    Seems to me that putting chemicals in your body isn’t good for ANYONE.

    It also seems to me that IF a woman can’t afford her birth control pills, and if she doesn’t want to get pregnant, the best way to avoid it would be NOT to have sex.

    It is NOT the Federal Government’s responsibility to provide ANYONE with healthcare.

    It’s just not.

    More indoctrination by our Government.

  56. A Crazy Old Coot

    The best contraceptive is the word NO. That goes for male and females.

  57. Interested Bystander

    A Crazy Old Coot,

    I agree, men have to be responsible also, but the Democrats are parading woman after woman in front of the cameras exclaiming what a travesty it is that this is even an issue.

    Why do the citizens of this Country continually look to Government to dictate to us?

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