Obama should abandon his candidacy, Democratic pollsters Caddell and Schoen, Hillary Clinton, Obama 2012 campaign will exacerbate the divisions in our country and weaken our national identity

Obama should abandon his candidacy, Democratic pollsters Caddell and Schoen, Hillary Clinton, Obama 2012 campaign will exacerbate the divisions in our country and weaken our national identity

From the Wall Street Journal November 21, 2011.

“The Hillary Moment
President Obama can’t win by running a constructive campaign, and he won’t be able to govern if he does win a second term”
“When Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson accepted the reality that they could not effectively govern the nation if they sought re-election to the White House, both men took the moral high ground and decided against running for a new term as president. President Obama is facing a similar reality—and he must reach the same conclusion.

He should abandon his candidacy for re-election in favor of a clear alternative, one capable not only of saving the Democratic Party, but more important, of governing effectively and in a way that preserves the most important of the president’s accomplishments. He should step aside for the one candidate who would become, by acclamation, the nominee of the Democratic Party: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Never before has there been such an obvious potential successor—one who has been a loyal and effective member of the president’s administration, who has the stature to take on the office, and who is the only leader capable of uniting the country around a bipartisan economic and foreign policy.

Certainly, Mr. Obama could still win re-election in 2012. Even with his all-time low job approval ratings (and even worse ratings on handling the economy) the president could eke out a victory in November. But the kind of campaign required for the president’s political survival would make it almost impossible for him to govern—not only during the campaign, but throughout a second term.

Put simply, it seems that the White House has concluded that if the president cannot run on his record, he will need to wage the most negative campaign in history to stand any chance. With his job approval ratings below 45% overall and below 40% on the economy, the president cannot affirmatively make the case that voters are better off now than they were four years ago. He—like everyone else—knows that they are worse off.

President Obama is now neck and neck with a generic Republican challenger in the latest Real Clear Politics 2012 General Election Average (43.8%-43.%). Meanwhile, voters disapprove of the president’s performance 49%-41% in the most recent Gallup survey, and 63% of voters disapprove of his handling of the economy, according to the most recent CNN/ORC poll.

Consequently, he has to make the case that the Republicans, who have garnered even lower ratings in the polls for their unwillingness to compromise and settle for gridlock, represent a more risky and dangerous choice than the current administration—an argument he’s clearly begun to articulate.

One year ago in these pages, we warned that if President Obama continued down his overly partisan road, the nation would be “guaranteed two years of political gridlock at a time when we can ill afford it.” The result has been exactly as we predicted: stalemate in Washington, fights over the debt ceiling, an inability to tackle the debt and deficit, and paralysis exacerbating market turmoil and economic decline.

If President Obama were to withdraw, he would put great pressure on the Republicans to come to the table and negotiate—especially if the president singularly focused in the way we have suggested on the economy, job creation, and debt and deficit reduction. By taking himself out of the campaign, he would change the dynamic from who is more to blame—George W. Bush or Barack Obama?—to a more constructive dialogue about our nation’s future.

Even though Mrs. Clinton has expressed no interest in running, and we have no information to suggest that she is running any sort of stealth campaign, it is clear that she commands majority support throughout the country. A CNN/ORC poll released in late September had Mrs. Clinton’s approval rating at an all-time high of 69%—even better than when she was the nation’s first lady. Meanwhile, a Time Magazine poll shows that Mrs. Clinton is favored over former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney by 17 points (55%-38%), and Texas Gov. Rick Perry by 26 points (58%-32%).

But this is about more than electoral politics. Not only is Mrs. Clinton better positioned to win in 2012 than Mr. Obama, but she is better positioned to govern if she does. Given her strong public support, she has the ability to step above partisan politics, reach out to Republicans, change the dialogue, and break the gridlock in Washington.”

“By going down the re-election road and into partisan mode, the president has effectively guaranteed that the remainder of his term will be marred by the resentment and division that have eroded our national identity, common purpose, and most of all, our economic strength. If he continues on this course it is certain that the 2012 campaign will exacerbate the divisions in our country and weaken our national identity to such a degree that the scorched-earth campaign that President George W. Bush ran in the 2002 midterms and the 2004 presidential election will pale in comparison.”

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61 responses to “Obama should abandon his candidacy, Democratic pollsters Caddell and Schoen, Hillary Clinton, Obama 2012 campaign will exacerbate the divisions in our country and weaken our national identity

  1. “moral high ground”, Obama has no idea what this means….He is far to superior to ever admit someone else could do better than him…also he loves the helicopter and jet.

  2. That’s rich, calling for an illegal occupant to abandon his re-election efforts for the sake of the country.

    For the sake of the country how about arresting him, Eric Holder, John Brennan, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean among others for perpetrating this fraud on America?

  3. This is the Capt of flight 2011.
    The aircraft is on fire and is going down.
    The right wing engine is all that’s keeping the aircraft aloft.
    If the right wing goes, it’s curtains.

  4. Bessie….I’m not holding my breath that the REZKO sentencing will occur tomorrow, or EVER.

    If that event is like any other Muslim criminal event that has occured during Obama’s term, then it won’t happen.

    KSM (Kalid Shiek Muhammed) still waiting to go on trial SOMEWHERE. That one is about 10 years old I think.

    Then you have the Fort Hood shooter who killed 13 soldiers and wounder over 30 in 2009 still waiting for his military trial.

    I can’t think of one case where Obama and hos DOJ have actively sought punishment for the corruption.

    And Mr. Fitzpatrick is nothing but a political joke.

  5. Hotlanta Mike | November 21, 2011 at 9:15 am |

    Mike , the only way bho can be sure of a full pardon is to quit and turn it over to Hillary. They would have to put the 2008 band back together again.
    I don’t see that happening.
    Hillary is damaged goods from Fast and Furious.

  6. “Update: Dean Haskins Starting Week 5 On The Road For The Birther Summit”

    “Then, on Friday, Dean traveled to Austin, where he hand-delivered a package of information to Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott’s office. Since our investigation produced conflicting information from the office of the Attorney General of Hawaii (more specifically, from Deputy Attorney General Jill Nagamine), Dean has supplied Attorney General Abbott with the specific details of the investigation, and has asked for his direction in how the conflicting information from Hawaii Attorney General David Louie’s office should be handled. The representative from Attorney General Abbott’s office thanked Dean for bringing the information to the attention of Texas’ Attorney General, and assured him that it would be reviewed.”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/11/dean-haskins-starting-week-5-on-road.html

  7. Mr. Bill(ms helga)

    Watch “The New Clinton Chronicles’ –

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8438833120507357139

  8. Tomorrow marks the 48th year ( November 22, 1963) since John F. Kennedy was gunned down on the streets of Dallas, Texas.

    Every citizen should review the events of that day by viewing “The Men Who Killed Kennedy”.

    A History Channel special which ran in 2004 only ONE time then was pulled from public view at the request of the Johnson family and Gerald Ford.

    This documentary goes into detail to show how some people in government got away with murder for their own selfish purposes. It was highly critical of LBJ’s ( Lyndon Bains Johnson) role. I think most people who view this will consider it to be a very accurate documentary.

    I was not a fan of JFK until after he was murdered. I did not fully realize what he was attempting to do for America by reducing the power of the CIA, taking steps to eliminate the Federal Reserve, and to reign in the out of control military/industrial complex by keeping America out of the war in Vietnam.

    These were things that would have greatly benefited America, had he lived to accomplish them…….

    AMERICA WOULD NOT BE 15 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT TODAY, AND HER CITIZENS WOULD NOT BE ONE STEP AWAY FROM SLAVERY WHILE STANDING IN THE SOUP LINES.

    PERHAPS CAMELOT WOULD HAVE BEEN A REALITY.

    At least, I like to think it would have been.

  9. P.S.

    Don’t hold your breath for the main steam media to mention Kennedy on their nightly news cast tomorrow.

  10. The GOP is afraid to mention OB’s eligibility for fear that it would hand the Dem nomination to Hillary. Now major Democrats are calling for Obama to step down anyway and for Hillary to take the Dem nomination. While I think that is a very, very remote possibility, if it happens, the GOP would have wasted the opportunity to show the world what a phoney OB is, imho. They would have missed the opportunity to show how the Democrats put OB in power despite the questions surrounding his eligibility.

  11. rminnc November 21, 2011 at 10:07 am

    “A History Channel special which ran in 2004 only ONE time then was pulled from public view at the request of the Johnson family and Gerald Ford.”
    **********
    **********
    “The Men Who Killed Kennedy – Part 7 – The Smoking Guns (2003)”


    ==========
    “The Men Who Killed Kennedy – Part 8 – The Love Affair (2003)”


    ==========
    “The Men Who Killed Kennedy – Part 9 – The Guilty Men (2003)”

  12. Mr. Bill(ms helga)

    As an added piece of information, Hillary’s father “played tight end for Penn State” back in the 30’s

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_E._Rodham

  13. I’m not Starla but I found this interesting…sent by a trusted friend….some important info esp. at minute 7:40 and 11:40 re: what is yet to come (nothing unexpected by those who see the reality around us NOW). What the Islamic community is yet to do to wreak havoc upon the U.S. And how their plan (hundred year plan) involves initially getting inroads to lesser gov. positions (min. 18) in our communities before their effort to put an outright (not trying to hide it) sharia law type Islamist at the top (by 2024) with judge on supreme court…iow, infiltrating more and more U.S. gov. control. And only Islamic prayer allowed in school system, not Christian prayer. And an attempt on O’s life by Islamists but making people believe it was racially motivated causing terrible race riots. Also predicted are the natural disasters growing since we have turned so far away from God as a nation with food and water shortages. Not a pretty picture but in the end God’s Glory will overcome all….following a clear distinction/separation between the good and the evil. As I said…interesting and seemingly already being revealed today.

  14. Sorry, but after all that prep above I forgot to put in the link:

    observer | November 21, 2011 at 10:48 am |

    I’m not Starla but I found this interesting…sent by a trusted friend….some important info esp. at minute 7:40 and 11:40 re: what is yet to come (nothing unexpected by those who see the reality around us NOW). What the Islamic community is yet to do to wreak havoc upon the U.S. And how their plan (hundred year plan) involves initially getting inroads to lesser gov. positions (min. 18) in our communities before their effort to put an outright (not trying to hide it) sharia law type Islamist at the top (by 2024) with judge on supreme court…iow, infiltrating more and more U.S. gov. control. And only Islamic prayer allowed in school system, not Christian prayer. And an attempt on O’s life by Islamists but making people believe it was racially motivated causing terrible race riots. Also predicted are the natural disasters growing since we have turned so far away from God as a nation with food and water shortages. Not a pretty picture but in the end God’s Glory will overcome all….following a clear distinction/separation between the good and the evil. As I said…interesting and seemingly already being revealed today.

  15. CW I forgot to put in the link to my comment and when I followed that up with another comment containing the link it got caught in moderation. Could you please release it (with youtube link) so my first comment about it makes sense!!!

  16. GORDO…..thanks for posting the links. I hope everyone takes a few minutes to look at them.

    MR BILL…….the Clinton Chronicles is another great example of unbridled power. MURDER is MURDER and Bill Clinton and his Arkansas thugs were as guilty as sin.

    Maybe in a few years, all the Chicago MURDERS will come to the surface.

  17. Finally came across a list of the Ballot Law Comission. The tally for the panel is three (3) Democrats with two (2) Republicans.
    Here are the names:

    BRADFORD E. COOK, r, Manchester
    December 1, 2005 to July 1, 2013
    (Appointed by Speaker of the House)

    ELIZABETH HAGER, r, Concord
    September 15, 2010 to July 1, 2013
    (Alternate appointed by Speaker of the House)

    JANE CLEMONS, d, Nashua
    September 14, 2010 to July 1, 2013
    (Appointed by Speaker of the House)

    MARGARET-ANN MORAN, d, Hillsborough
    September 15, 2010 to July 1, 2013
    (Alternate appointed by Speaker of the House)

    SHEILA ROBERGE, r, Bedford
    September 16, 2010 to July 1, 2014
    (Appointed by Senate President)

    FRANKLIN TORR, r, Dover
    January 27, 2004 to July 1, 2010
    (Alternate appointed by Senate President)

    MARTHA VAN OOT, d, Concord
    September 16, 2010 to July 1, 2014
    (Appointed by Senate President)

    SYLVIO DUPUIS, d, Manchester
    December 7, 2005 to July 1, 2007
    (Alternate appointed by Senate President)

    JAMESON S. FRENCH, r, Portsmouth
    October 6, 2010 to July 1, 2013
    (Alternate appointed by Governor and Council)

    Vacancy (no current appointment)
    Term to January 21, 2012
    (Appointed by Governor and Council)

    http://www.sos.nh.gov/665-web2011.pdf

    CHAPTER 665
    BALLOT LAW COMMISSION

    General Provisions

    665:1 Organization. I. There shall be a ballot law commission
    consisting of 5 members. Two members shall be appointed by the speaker
    of the house of representatives, one from each of the 2 major
    political parties in the state based on votes cast for governor in the
    most recent state general election. Two members shall be appointed by
    the president of the senate, one from each of the 2 major political
    parties in the state based on votes cast for governor in the most
    recent state general election.”
    The server is down for the New Hampshie wepage.

  18. rimmnc; I think he will be sentenced, jailed and pardoned after the 2012 election, win or lose….Obama has 3 months from the election and the swearing in of the next President….Hopefully it won’t be him.

  19. Many of you folks here were Hillary supporters at one time. What is everyone’s opinion if Obama designates Hillary Clinton as his vice president in 2012?

    Scary?

  20. Agreed Bessie in reference to your comment about the swearing in of the next president……

    but personally I think the governments position on Rezko is:
    “OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND”….it sure appears to be that way since his conviction. That seems to be Mr. Obama’s favored position.

    The fair haired boy of federal prosecution in Chicago, Mr. Fitzpatrick ( who takes his orders from Eric Holder) has proven himself as nothing more than a tool and toy of the Obama administration……

    What a shame….he has such a bright career until he drank the Kool-aid.

  21. It is not surprising that Pat Caddell and Doug Schoen would get around to recommending that Obama should not run so that Hillary can be drafted in 2012. Here again, they are trying to salvage the Dem Party before it goes up in flames, but the window dressing is supposedly that it would be for the benefit of the country. I believe Pat and Doug are sincere, but sincerely wrong.

    There are entirely too many present and former Dems who would vote for Hillary, because they are either ignorant of her negatives or they don’t care. For starters, she herself sat at the feet of Saul Alinsky and is thoroughly saturated in progressive (socialist) thought. She is presently working via the U.N. for worldwide small arms control. It was Hillarycare in the early nineties that was the forerunner of Obamacare. Fortunately it got defeated then. Hillary is NOT for Israel anymore than O is.

    Because Hillary was disenfranchised in 2008, there are a number of bleeding hearts that would love for her to have her opportunity at the presidency, and with a complicit MSM, she could win. I’m going to pray that O does NOT withdraw from the nomination. The alternative is ghastly.

  22. Jonah | November 21, 2011 at 11:51 am |
    Many of you folks here were Hillary supporters at one time. What is everyone’s opinion if Obama designates Hillary Clinton as his vice president in 2012?

    Scary?
    *********************************
    Indeed! However, I don’t think she would accept second fiddle. The trouble is that today there is so much fickleness and people have short memories. She herself has an untold amount of baggage, but in today’s world that would just be put on the loading dock out of sight, while her train speeds away. The corrupt media would see to that.

  23. Cabby….good way of putting it.

    However why should citizens think Hillary would be any different that the boy-toy that we have now?

    Both came from the Saul Alensky school of thought.

  24. For those who “DON’T KNOW” Hillary is NO MORE QUALIFIED to sit as the POTUS than Soetoro. All she has ever been is a PENNY ANTE lawyer,the wife of a POTUS, and a SOS. This does not add up to qualification to me. Nor has she ever operated a successful business. In reality she is not far in front of Soetoro, when it comes to ability. But I hasten to add that if you want somebody “TAKEN OUT” then she comes with some TOP CREDENTIALS. Further she has a really uncanny understanding of the commodities market. You will remember that she enetered the broker’s office with $1000.00 in her hand and left the office with $100,000.00. But it doesn’t really mean that she bought anything. Some folks call that MONEY LAUNDERING.

  25. Perhaps the $1000.00 was the HANDLING FEE that the broker charged Hillary to put her, and Slick Willy”s Arkansas drug profits in his washing machine.

  26. Disgraceful the mentality of this Mr. D,J, Bentacourt, Houe Speaker. How dare these, “birthers” upset my applecart. Though I do think cooler heads may just have prevailed. Before having Dr. Taitz submit a letter to request anything of these fine and noble Statesmen. They perhaps should have left the stew to simmer for a day or two and gathered weapons and ammo. Oh, well – to late. its out in the open now and may the best man win. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=28055

  27. Good morning Old Salt…..correct in all you say.

    Hillary was nothing but a penny-ante CROOKED lawyer, wife of a SORRY- ASSED president, and now a SUB-STANDARD Secretary of State.

    These are the qualifications for a GREAT Democrat President, don’t you think?

    A true student of the Marxist/Communist Saul Alensky.

  28. rminnc; you’re right….after reading Rezko’s latest letter to the judge it would appear that the feds never confronted him on the accusations made in the Frawley vs. Weaver deposition….I would like to see the feds involved before a Congressional investigation…What a sham, it should be call the Department of “not so much” Justice…

  29. Bessie, you are very kind. How about calling it the “Department of No Justice”?

  30. oldsalt79 | November 21, 2011 at 12:14 pm |

    Excellent, Old Salt, to remind us of Hillary’s amazing ability to multiply – $1,000 into $100,000 all in a day’s work!! She is as crooked as a snake and also a prolific liar. She may be just a little more smooth than O.

  31. Remember Hillary’s NON transparency when she was given the gift by her husband to form her own socialized health care system? She wouldn’t be any more “transparent” than her dear leader is now. She’s succeeded in following nothing but corrupt men, knowing of their personal corruption even before she decided to follow them. Some “feminist”….but then that’s usually their way.

  32. Here’s the official record SO FAR concerning the OCCUPY movement which Mr. Obama so STRONGLY supports:

    1. OWC movements rap sheet (arrest record) 320 arrestable offenses ans counting.

    2, Paramedics called to Occupy Eugene for Heroin overdose.

    3. Drunk 11 year old found at Occupy Missoula protest.

    4. Occupy Oakland calls for complete shutdown of all West Coast ports.

    5. Berkley woman assaulted for not joining Occupy protest movement.

    Mr. Obama should be real proud of what he and George Soro’s has spanned, and the American people should be OUTRAGED to the point of OPEN REBELLION.

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Time to get rid of all this garbage…that includes Mr. Obama too.

  33. All of the above and not a word about this record in the main stream media.

  34. What about the LAW ABIDING CITIZEN’S RIGHT?

    Or do we have any since they have destroyed the Constitution?

  35. Rminnc, what a litany for O to be proud of! I think that we all know by now that this is EXACTLY what he wants as another step toward the destruction of our country. We seem so impotent to be able to stop the direction we are headed.

  36. Some have ventured to say that the Tea Party folks should also be out there protesting in their accustomed manner – sane, country-loving, and CLEAN. I just don’t know about that, because the OWS’ers would suck up all of the oxygen and the MSM would attempt to equate the Tea Party with OWS. It could get nasty – really nasty, and end up in street brawls. If it weren’t for the biased media, it could be a good idea. Any feedback?

  37. what if obama is malcom x’s boy. We would be worse off cause of the cult like following he has amassed. this would be political beyond would the country could bear. at least for now we can hold him on a leash a little bit. obama unrestrained would be worse.

  38. Anyone else get this email?? It’s going around:

    Coincidence
    Whaaaaaaaaaaaat a coincidence!
    Hey, this is great! Imagine the odds of this happening.
    Do you know the park in NYC that the Wall Street protesters are occupying?
    Zucotti Park.
    DId you know this park is not owned by the city?
    It is owned by Brookfield Properties.
    Who was just hired by Brookfield Properties as an attorney?
    Vice President Joe Biden’s son.
    Who sits on the board of Brookfield Properties?
    Mayor Bloomberg’s live-in girlfriend.
    Now, guess what company just received some of the last of the Obama Stimulus $$$$$$$.
    Thaaaaaaaaaaaaat’s right, Brookfield Properties.
    Isn’t life great!
    Hey, on a completely unrelated note, Wisconsin is shaping up to be the swing state in the
    2012 presidential elections. Not Florida. Not Ohio. But Wisconsin.

    Now, guess who owns the company that will be tabulating the electronic votes in Wisconsin.
    Thaaaaaaaaaaaat’s right, the biggest contributor to Obama, George Soros. Whaaaaaaaat a coincidence!
    Remember what Stalin said. “He who votes does not have power. He who counts the votes has power.

    ARE YOU SICK YET ?

  39. Cabby….

    It’s this old soldier’s opinion Obama wants this OCCUPY stuff to turn to real bad so he can declare MARTIAL LAW and erase everyone’s right…..

    That’s one way of avoiding a national election.

  40. PS…….

    If Obama declares MARTIAL LAW, he can send the DO NOTHING CONGRESS and CORRUPT JUDGES home and RULE by decree……He may even design himself a crown and some new cloths!

    Remember when he was first elected…that thingee with the Pepsi look alike logo…some say it was a Muslim thing…who knows…only Obama knows!

    If Martial Law comes to America, Oh Boy!… the FEMA camps, which Janet Napolitano has been feverishly working to establish, will be at a NO VACANCY real fast!!!

    I’m sure I will be among the first have a standing reservation in one of them, as will most of the patriots who blog here.. But I will not go without one hell-of-a-fight! (Infantry style).

  41. Jonah | November 21, 2011 at 11:51 am |

    Many of you folks here were Hillary supporters at one time. What is everyone’s opinion if Obama designates Hillary Clinton as his vice president in 2012?

    Scary?
    ________________________

    Scary indeed. I’m trying to figure out what’s behind all this Hillary talk. Obama may not lose the election if Republicans don’t put up someone competent or if the economy improves. i hope it’s a landslide for the GOP, but that’s not certain so I don’t know why they are talking about Hillary. For me, Hillary showed her true colors when she joined the Obama administration and started screaming at Netanyahu. She’s as bad as Obama, in my opinion.

  42. Hillary is a nightmare and plugged in with Barry would be a horror show. I was a Hillary supporter in 2008. When she caved to Obama and friends, when she betrayed her supporters, when she then accepted the SoS position and proceeded to help Obama trash the USA, I lost all respect for her. She also has a very shady past along side Mr. Bill. She would be a formidable force though because she still has a whole lot of Dimmie supporters who would beat the drum loudly for her imo.

  43. I have a little different take on any alleged MARTIAL LAW that the FAGGOT tries to impose will meet with a HELL OF A LOT of Americans who will tell the FED TO SHOVE THEIR MARTIAL LAW UP THEIR ANUS’S,and it might be done off the end of a RAMROD. He is a USURPER and CANNOT LEGALLY DO ANYTHING…….INCLUDING CALLING FOR MARTIAL LAW. Patriots who let that get in their way will die. If Soetoro cannot be removed PRIOR to the election, then it will have to be done afterward. Either time would suit me fine. Sadly either way is not going to be something for the Faint of Heart. If it must be taken to revolution,it is probable that it will cost thousands of lives…….but afterward there would be more than enough for a death penalty to those who perpetrated the plot in the first place.

  44. For those who think that it can’t be done might want to have a long talk with the leader of the HONDURAN ARMY. They had a Constitution which the then President thought he was going to rewrite, so that he could install himself as a dictator for life. We are facing the same exact situation. The only difference is that Soetoro has not yet made his intention public. Time to put in a long distance telephone call. Perhaps the leader of the Honduran army will send his army to DC, and show the American COWARDS how to do it. Unfortunately he will probably have to do the REMOVAL AS WELL. NO AMERICANS appear to have the GOLF BALLS.

  45. Mr. Bill(ms helga) |
    November 21, 2011 at 10:06 am | Watch “The New Clinton Chronicles’ –

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8438833120507357139
    Don’t forget ‘The Clinton Casualties’..many haven’t been there.
    Any search engine can find it..about the mysterious accidents, murders, and suicides (esp. mysterious with guns thrown 20 feet away and two shots in skull–after dead??).
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And rminnc…if one finds the video of the secret service raising his hands in a ‘what’s going on?’ gesture repeatedly to his co-secret service as he jumps on and off the car sideboard, there can be no doubt in your mind that JFK was murdered, SS knew it, and this guy was a fill-in or DIDN’T GET THE MEMO!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  46. Those who are the (teacher, and LEGAL FLEEGLE) combinations who continuously point out the exact laws,and the pertinent paragraphs, ETCcan continue “BUMPING THEIR GUMS”, but after they are done they have accomplished nothing more than just that. We are long past the point where RESPECT for the law ends. After all WHO IS IT WHO SO FAR IS THE BIGGEST LAWBREAKER OF ALL? We need say no more, as we all know the answer to that one. So RECITING LAWS FROM YOUR LAW BOOKS isn’t going to cut it anymore.

  47. Your $50,000.00 set of lawbooks aren’t going to be worth a dime,after push comes to shove. The owners will be far too busy trying to evade having a rifle bullet put between his/her eyes. Because of the heavy progressive twist to our laws it is probable that a very large portion of our laws will have to be rewritten any way just to make them fair once again. Remember the PROGRESSIVES have been at this since just after the turn of the century. They have seen to it that our laws are written in a language which allows them to have a couple of words added or removed and VOILA instant twisted progressive BULLSHI#.

  48. Trump is still “kicking the tires” about running. I would bet that if he does that Sarah Palin runs with him..just an observation on how close that they tried to appear last spring.
    http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/11/21/new-book-trumps-finances-revealed-doesnt-rule-out-2012-run/

  49. …………..case in point…..Hawaii COE, rewritten by Democratic LIBERAL,Mr. Schatt, who is now the Lt. Governor of Hawaii, and which MMMMSSSS. IMPORTANT signed. It was OK in his Mr.Schatt’s view to rewrite a STANDARD form (which had been used in prior elections) to exclude all reference to Constitutional eligibility. He is a PROGRESSIVE who thinks that he is the LAW, and what he writes is what the law is. Sorry Mr. SCHITT………YOU ARE WRONG!

  50. A black guy, a white guy, an illegal alien, a Muslim, a Community Organizer, and a card carrying Communist walk into a bar.

    The bartender ask, “What can I get you, Mr. President?”

  51. People………….when listening to Trump you want to be listening CLOSELY. I do NOT necessarily look upon anything he says as the GOSPEL. Nor do I accuse him of telling lies, but I am simply recognising a person who MIGHT. I will judge what he says, after he gets it said. He has the propensity of being……DONALD TRUMP.!………NEVER FORGET THAT FACT!

  52. BYE BYE ALL, time to turn OFF FOX NEWS, and do something constructive!

  53. Interested Bystander

    oldsalt,

    Thanks for your comments, they always are to the point and make me think.

    I too, have similar thoughts.

    It is getting VERY close to the time when we have got to start over.

  54. Mr. Wells can you please post this & please delete the other one? The links are correct in this one. Thank you!

    WSTK-ITV – Sid Roth Interviews John Paul Jackson On “The Perfect Storm”

    * * * *

    Prophetic Warnings For America For 2010 To 2020

    * * * *

    Part 2 of 6 – John Paul Jackson – The Perfect Storm (Whats Happening Now In The World)

    * * * *

  55. probably nothing here, but putting it up anyway…Any names look familiar?

    http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2011/November/11-opa-1519.html

  56. Obama’s “Dead Pool”: (it’s rivaling Clintoons’.)
    http://www.nachumlist.com/deadpool.htm

  57. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    HonorFirst | November 21, 2011 at 7:33 pm |
    And
    Mortrey | November 21, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
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    Scary “stuff” – Sounds just like the Clinton regime. Especially the last minute pardons handled by Eric Holder for Clinton. Maybe this means the USURPER is getting ready to quit.

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