Obama Muslim plant?, Saudi broadcasts overheard?, Youtube video, Citizen Wells open thread, September 20, 2010

Obama Muslim plant?, Saudi broadcasts overheard?, Youtube video

The following is a compelling video. Is Obama a Saudi and Muslim plant? The idea is not far fetched at all. Obama bowed to the Saudi King. Obama’s strongest religious and political influence comes from the Muslim world. Decide for yourself.

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233 responses to “Obama Muslim plant?, Saudi broadcasts overheard?, Youtube video, Citizen Wells open thread, September 20, 2010

  1. NBC, no way. Muslim maybe. CIA connections, probably. Saudi connected, very likely. Complete and utter fraud and criminal, NO DOUBT REMAINS.

    Pete

  2. AFRICAN?
    Nio Doubt.

    AMERICAN?
    Doubtful.

    Our Nation’s First “Black” pResident…

  3. No Doubt.

  4. I could belive it, how about the multi billion arms deal with the Saudis’

  5. Obama Saudi Muslim plant? Of course, the evidence is overwhelming.

    Dr. Sam Sewell: “I think CGJ is the quickest, most effective, and most practical way to clean up government corruption. I have yet to see a viable argument against that premise.”

    Justice Antonin Scalia: “…In fact, the whole theory of its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people

    Justice Lewis Powell ruled:“ Such an (Grand Jury) investigation may be triggered by tips, rumors… or the personal knowledge of the grand jurors.”

    Mark Levin: “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”

    Abraham Lincoln: “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”

    You see our Founding Fathers never intended for us to be lorded over by corrupt criminals in the White House and Congress. To the contrary, our Founding Fathers intended for We the People to have control over our Government and our politicians.

    That is one of the primary reasons that they bestowed upon us that extraordinary Bill of Rights which provided for the Grand Jury System controlled by the people not the politicians.

    In our Founding Fathers’ prescient wisdom, they designed a Grand Jury System in which no man, not even the President of the United States, is above the Law.

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO regime:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

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  7. Paxson | September 20, 2010 at 1:48 am |

    Free Speech,

    I heard about this last week. This absolutely should be the biggest national news story of the year in the mainstream media. It is amazing that this would be going on in our country. The national press continues to sleep. They have no shame and they no longer deserve the right to be considered journalists.
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    It is up to Citizen Journalists to report this story, Paxon.

    You can post stories here:

    http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/

  8. http://www.wwltv.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/Despite-Final-Well-Kill-Oil-Persists-Along-Coastal-Louisiana–103245774.html

    “We’re just building our case,” said Christina Cossich DeYoung, a private attorney whose firm is assisting the district attorney’s office. “We’re coming to take samples of the fish, to take scrape the fish, to see if there is any oil in the fish.”

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  10. bo SHOULD BE INDICTED FOR RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT IMMEDIATELY. bo IS THE ONLY PERSON WITH THE AUTHORITY TO ORDER THE AIR FORCE TO SPRAY COREXIT POISON ON THE GULF.

  11. http://www.fox8live.com/news/local/story/Third-fish-kill-reported-in-Plaquemines-Parish/XjIPlkHaTUu3XWl75Iut-g.cspx

    “Now millions of dead fish that have turned up in the area, and a variety: catfish, redfish, speckled trout we saw, it’s just a number of varieties of fish,” said Hahn.

    Meanwhile, Billy Nungesser is still waiting on more federal support, and more proper testing.

    “Can anybody look the American people in the eye and say it absolutely has nothing to do with dispersants, the oil, or the breakdown of the oil, or does anybody care? I mean somebody has to be as upset as I am huh,” said Nungesser.

  12. Third and Final Installment of Pravda Obama Eligibility Story
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/09/third-and-final-installment-of-pravda.html

    Dear Sam,

    I have just posted the final part III of your article on the main page.
    I believe it will be just as successful as the previous two parts.
    Thank you very much for sharing this with us. We do hope that our publications of your work gave many people food for thought.
    If you ever consider sending more of your articles to Pravda, we would be glad to consider them.

    Kind regards,
    Dmitry Sudakov
    Pravda.Ru English editor

  13. From Alan Keyes.

    Why Lt. Col. Lakin is not mistaken
    Socrates famously said that an unexamined life is not worth living. However that may be, there’s new proof everyday that a critically unexamined so-called news report is not worth reading.

    A case in point: A slyly derogatory article at foxnews.com purporting to discuss the prospects of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin’s effort to obtain, by means of a military trial, evidence that bears on the question of Barack Obama’s eligibility for the office of President of the United States.

    The article sports a headline that applies to Lt. Col Lakin the inaccurate epithet “birther” invented by Obama faction propagandists to distract from the profound question of Constitutional authority that is really at stake. It goes on to suggest that Lt. Col. Lakin made some kind of legal procedural error (“has chosen the wrong venue”) by declining to obey doubtfully lawful orders issued in the name of the President of the United States. To substantiate this assertion the story quotes from “Phillip D. Cave, a Washington attorney and director of the National Institute of Military justice.” “Cave said the validity of Lakin’s orders, under military law, does not depend on the president but on the chain of command. He will be convicted and is in jeopardy of dismissal.”

    Cave speaks as if it is acceptable, under the Constitution of the United States, to distinguish the authority of the “chain of command” from that of the President of the United States. If this distinction is accurate, then there must be a Constitutional source other than the President for the authority flowing through the alternative military chain of command. But the U.S. military is an instrument of the U.S. government’s executive power. The Constitution vests the whole of that power in the President of the United States. To avoid all possibility of misunderstanding, it explicitly states that the President is the Commander in Chief of the all the Armed Forces of the United States. To be Constitutional, therefore, any and all authority flowing through the chain of command must originate in the President, and any and all orders issued to officers in that chain of Command must ultimately depend upon and exercise the President’s Constitutional power.

    The words which commission all U.S. military officers reflect this fact.

    The President of the United States of America

    To all who shall see these presents, greeting:

    Know Ye, that reposing special trust and confidence in the patriotism, valor, fidelity and abilities of ………………, I do appoint [“him” or “her”] a [“Second Lieutenant” or “Ensign’] in the [name of service] to rank as such from the …. day of …….. …… This Officer will therefore carefully and diligently discharge the duties of the office to which appointed by doing and performing all manner of things thereunto belonging.

    And I do strictly charge and require those Officers and other personnel of lesser rank to render such obedience as is due an officer of this grade and position. And this Officer is to observe and follow such orders and directives, from time to time, as may be given by me, or the future President of the United States of America, or other Superior Officers acting in accordance with the laws of the United States of America.

    This commission is to continue in force during the pleasure of the President of the United States of America for the time being, under the provisions of those Public Laws relating to Officers of the Armed Forces of the United States of America and the component thereof in which this appointment is made.

    Done at the City of Washington, this …. day of …….. in the year of our Lord ……………. and of the Independence of the United States of America the ……….

    By the President:

    Whatever his claims to expertise in military law, when Mr. Cave relies on the concept of a military chain of command independent of the President he is entirely at odds with the provisions of the Constitution. In particular, he contradicts the Constitution’s subordination of all military authority to civilian control, embodied in and exercised through the President. Any military tribunal that adopted Mr. Cave’s view of the chain of command would assert the existence within the military of a source of authority not subordinate to the President, and not part of the executive power of the U.S. government, which the Constitution vests exclusively in the person of the President. Such an assertion would be, on its face, unlawful, unconstitutional and extremely dangerous to the stability of the United States government.

    Unlike the military in most other parts of the world, the U.S. military has a uniform and honorable tradition of unquestionable submission to the authority of the U.S. Constitution and its provision for the civilian control of the military. Military officers swear an oath to uphold the Constitution, and pursuant to that oath they “observe and follow such orders and directives, from time to time, as may be given by me, or the future President of the United States of America, or other Superior Officers acting in accordance with the laws of the United States of America.”

    Herein lies the nub of Lt. Col Lakin’s dilemma, and that of every other commissioned officer now serving in the U.S. military. If a Superior Officer issues a command relying on the authority of an individual claiming to be President of the United States, but not in fact Constitutionally eligible for the office, is obedience to that questionably lawful order consistent with the sworn duty to uphold the Constitution, and the laws of the United States made pursuant thereto?

    There is no question that doubt exists as to the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama for the Office of President. Had there been any authoritative pronouncement on the subject from an impartial and constitutionally empowered element of the U.S. government (the Supreme Court or the Congress) the officers of the military would be obliged to defer to that authoritative and constitutionally authorized judgment. But the Congress has refused to address the subject, and the Supreme Court of the United States has evaded the issue. Their dereliction leaves the doubt constitutionally unresolved, so that every military officer, and indeed every citizen of the United States, can have no certainty as to the Constitutionality of any action performed by Barack Obama when he claims to wield the executive power of the U.S. government. Indeed, if Obama is not constitutionally qualified to be President, the Constitution plainly states that the executive power passes to the Vice-President.

    The framers of the U.S. Constitution established a unitary executive precisely in order to avoid the potentially self-destructive spectacle of the U.S. government as a double-headed monstrosity whose doubtful assertions of authority on one side or the other could force elements of the Armed Forces of the United States to base their discipline and obedience on personal loyalties and dependencies, rather than on their duty to the people of the United States, whose more permanent will the U.S. Constitution embodies.

    Unless the people of the United States are willing to allow their self-government to be usurped by a regime dependent on the choice of military Praetorian guards (like that of the ancient Roman Empire), the present situation is intolerable. The Fox online news article leaves hanging the defamatory suggestion that Lt. Col. Lakin’s action is personal “grandstanding.” This is a callous and deeply disrespectful lie. With the frank and single minded integrity a free people should expect from its military officers he simply seeks a constitutionally authoritative resolution of an issue that leaves doubt where doubt may be fatal to the integrity of his oath bound conscience, as well as the democratic, civilian form of republican government established by the U.S. Constitution.

    Lt. Col. Lakin is not the one who has mistaken his actions. Indeed, he shows the intelligence, courage and common sense thus far sorely lacking among the civilian authorities for whose Constitutional position he shows greater respect than they themselves have so far demonstrated. I have no doubt that he hopes, as we should all pray, that his case will advance until it puts before these so far shamefully derelict authorities a conscientiously inescapable opportunity to stop evading their duty, and to heed, as Lt. Col. Lakin has, the clearly stated requirements of the Constitution they are sworn to uphold.
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  14. Is Larry Sinclair finally throwing in the towel? It seems that since the Parisi lawsuit began, Sinclair has been giving indications that this is his last hurrah. He’s been posting remembrance videos at his website, with the music of Terry Jacks’ “Seasons in the Sun” (great tune by the way). He has also announced that he is closing down his various websites.

    I don’t blame Sinclair. He must be a very tired man, having withstood two years of relentless attacks by Obama thugs. I hope wherever life takes him, that he stays safe and understands the deep admiration many of us have for his determination and strength of character in bringing to the public his story about his encounter with Barack Obama in Chicago back in 1999.

  15. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Does a bear crap in the woods? Hibernate in winter?

  16. Gianni….Larry did have to fight to get the truth out…I sure hope in wasn’t in vain….if only we had an American Media…..

  17. Everyone is going to love this video, with the exception of DC.
    http://hillbuzz.org/2010/09/20/neither-the-democrats-nor-the-cocktail-party-gop-establishment-have-any-idea-whats-heading-their-way/
    We the people are speaking.
    Washington is not listening.
    The Democrats are blind.
    The GOP Cocktail Party establishment is deaf.
    These fools have no idea what’s in store for them.
    If you are reading this, if you watched the above video, you are the American Resistance.

  18. Gianni | September 20, 2010 at 10:29 am |

    I don’t blame Sinclair. He must be a very tired man, having withstood two years of relentless attacks by Obama thugs.

    ________________________________________________

    I think Joe Biden was selected for VP by the BOTeam for having Larry falsely arrested by “BO” Biden – Joe’s Del. Attorney General’s son. Very strange.
    The MSM kept that story covered up as if it was the 2nd WW atomic bomb secret.

  19. http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/09/oil_spill_is_far_from_over_for.html

    FOURCHON BEACH — Don’t tell Forrest Travirca that you’ve heard Louisiana dodged the bullet on environmental damage from the
    BP oil disaster. You might find yourself eating those words.
    “Smell this!” Travirca demanded as he grabs a handful of brownish sand from this beach just west of Grand Isle and pushed it at the nose of a reporter. “That’s right — it’s oil.”

    “All the brown spots and patches you’ll see on this beach for the next nine miles is oil, too,” he said. “And if you dig down a few inches or a few feet, you’ll see oil, too. And if you walk into that marsh back there, you’ll find oil.

    “So don’t tell me we dodged any bullets. Or that it wasn’t so bad. ‘Cause I’ve been out there every day since May dealing with all that oil we dodged. It just makes my blood boil.”

  20. Free Speech @ 1:16 am | I figured a lot of lawyers must be quietly building their cases in the Gulf States-and their is so much evidence captured on the internet forever, witness testimony, sick patients etc. I was thinking last night another thing they may want to watch for is a spike in miscarriages, still born deaths-made me sick to think about it, but it is possible. About the paranoa due to drugs I saw the story re: Ted Binion
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Binion
    Death and aftermath
    Ted Binion was found dead on a small mattress on the floor of his Las Vegas estate home, 2408 Palomino Lane near Rancho Drive and Charleston Boulevard, on September 17, 1998. Empty pill bottles were found near the body, and an autopsy and toxicology report revealed that he died of a lethal dosage combination of the prescription sedative Xanax and heroin, with traces of Valium. The day before, Binion had himself purchased 12 pieces of tar heroin from a street drug dealer, and had earlier gotten a prescription from his next-door neighbor, a doctor, for Xanax, and evidence introduced at trial showed that Binion personally took the prescription to be filled at a local pharmacy.
    In June 1999, Sandy Murphy and Rick Tabish were arrested for Binion’s murder, as well as for conspiracy, robbery, grand larceny and burglary. The prosecution contended that Murphy and Tabish had conspired to kill Binion and steal his riches, drugging Binion into unconsciousness and burking him, a form of manual suffocation. The suffocation, in this theory, was done because the overdose was taking too long, and the pair feared discovery. They were each charged with murder and burglary charges connected to the removal of his fortune from the vault on the desert floor in Pahrump.
    Evidently there is money hidden, buried somewhere in Vegas that they haven’t found yet.

  21. Free Speech @ 9:23 am
    Thank you for giving me my Billy fix. What a guy, I hope he is not fighting these idiots and liars alone.

  22. They tried to warn us.

  23. Michelle | September 20, 2010 at 11:32 am | Free Speech @ 9:23 am
    Thank you for giving me my Billy fix. What a guy, I hope he is not fighting these idiots and liars alone.
    ==================================

    U R Welcome! Nice to have good intelligent discussions without the obots this morning.

  24. John Boehner: The Second of 12 Kids from Ohio Who is Obama’s Elitist Target

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8009943/John-Boehner-the-second-of-12-kids-from-Ohio-who-is-Barack-Obamas-elitist-target.html
    **********************
    This was an interesting read, because I was born and lived in Ohio for over a third of my life and have been interested in Rep. Boehner, especially since he has become Obama’s new poster boy for “BAD”. He has very humble roots and is certainly anything but an elitist, compared to other D.C.’ers.

  25. Alex Jones on bo’s PERVERT THUG sunstein.

  26. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech | September 20, 2010 at 9:23 am |

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    Yes! Billy Nungesser = GOOD

    No! Alexander Higgens = Chum Thrower

    Just a “little more discretion” in picking of sources and things to post, and then we will have credible news service going here.

  27. ALEX JONES CALLS FOR GRAND JURY INDICTMENTS

  28. Free Speech @ 12:05 pm |
    “Counter misinformation” that’s a good one, politically correct word for lie?
    bo’s PERVERT THUG sunstein, they are so much like Hitler’s bunch in the bunker during the last days of the war, crazy begets crazy, and they are just getting crazier by the day.

  29. More Republican collaborators:
    ===================
    From July 2009:
    ——–
    “John Boehner dismisses birthers”

    “When asked about the birther issue … Boehner was dismissive of the topic. Boehner signaled that for House GOP leaders, this question isn’t on the radar screen in any way.

    Other Republican leaders, including Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele, have outright dismissed the birth certificate question, saying there’s no doubt Obama is a natural-born citizen.

    When pressed by another reporter as to whether he had any doubts that Obama was born in Hawaii, Boehner had a curt, one-word answer: “No.””

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25572.html

  30. Bob Strauss…..

    Your post of Allen Keyes is 100% right on mark.

    As a retired Infantry officer of 27 years…I fully concur with Dr. Keyes assessment of the LTC Larkin’s court martial ( if we can call this sham such).

    I am ashamed of the conduct of our top ranked brass in all services today. They are ignoring the obvious. Has our Constitution outlived it’s usefulness to these numbnuts?

    There are millions of brave men young Americans lying in shallow fields all over the world who have given their lives to preserve our Constitution and way of life. They have been betrayed from within their own ranks.

    All young soldiers, sailors, and marines who serve today in our military and stand in harms way are also being sold down the river by their officer corp. The young soldiers, with rifles in their hands, not only deserve to know their Commander in Chief is not a foriegn usuper, the lowest private serving has a right to question this president’s qualifications in accordance to our Constitution. How can our country ask any soldier to give up his life for a Commander who is not qualified to lead them in battle?

    For the Joint Cheif of Staffs of each branch of service not to demand that obama produce documents which clearly shows he meets the qualifications to be CinC makes them as guilty as obama for covering up this grave injustice to the young people service this country and to the American people in general.

    When the truth finally come out, and it will eventually come out as sure as the sun will come up tomorrow, the top brass and ever officer who remained silent on this Constitutional matter will have a lot of splaining to do. Whatever their excuse, I for one will not buy it.

    Ltc Larkin deserves the thanks of every American for what he is doing. He is betting his everything, his fortunes, reputation, and his life on exposing the fraud we have now in the White House.

    This kangaroo court martial may temporarily convict him, but we must insure our history books will clear him of all charges and restore his reputation which is being stolen from him.

    God bless Ltc Larkin and give him the strength to endure this comedy of errors.

  31. Michelle | September 20, 2010 at 12:18 pm |
    Free Speech @ 12:05 pm |
    “Counter misinformation” that’s a good one, politically correct word for lie?
    bo’s PERVERT THUG sunstein, they are so much like Hitler’s bunch in the bunker during the last days of the war, crazy begets crazy, and they are just getting crazier by the day.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nazis_who_committed_suicide

  32. Michelle | September 20, 2010 at 12:18 pm |
    Free Speech @ 12:05 pm |
    “Counter misinformation” that’s a good one, politically correct word for lie?
    bo’s PERVERT THUG sunstein, they are so much like Hitler’s bunch in the bunker during the last days of the war, crazy begets crazy, and they are just getting crazier by the day.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nazis_who_committed_suicide

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    I wonder what will happen to sunstein’s obots when sunstein and bo are indicted?

  33. Free Speech………………………….
    Watched the Islam video. Tells it like it IS. Now all we have to do is make our young college grads take notice of the message that the video contains. I personally believe that many of our young people do tend to see Islam as a LIE. But I think that peer pressure has a tendency to circumvent their suspicions. So they shrug their shoulders and go on about their business. In effect as long as it doesn’t interfere with their partying, or other fun who gives a damn.

  34. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129782098&sc=17&f=1001

    Samantha Joye, professor of marine sciences, University of Georgia
    “We have to [chemically] fingerprint it and link it to the Deepwater Horizon,” she says. “But the sheer coverage here is leading us all to come to the conclusion that it has to be sedimented oil from the oil spill, because it’s all over the place.”

    The organisms that break down oil excrete mucus — copious amounts of mucus,” Joye says. “So it’s kind of like a slime highway from the surface to the bottom. Because eventually the slime gets heavy and it sinks.”

  35. When the Islamic flag flies over the WH, it WILL BE BECAUSE NOBODY GOT OFF THEIR A$$ AND DONE ANYTHING TO KEEP IT FROM HAPPENING. THEN YOU ALL CAN WEAR YOUR BURKAS,GROW A BEARD, WEAR A TURBAN, AND TAKE A BATH ONCE EVERY 6 MONTHS,WHETHER YOU NEED IT OR NOT!

  36. oldsalt79 | September 20, 2010 at 12:53 pm |
    When the Islamic flag flies over the WH, it WILL BE BECAUSE NOBODY GOT OFF THEIR A$$ AND DONE ANYTHING TO KEEP IT FROM HAPPENING. THEN YOU ALL CAN WEAR YOUR BURKAS,GROW A BEARD, WEAR A TURBAN, AND TAKE A BATH ONCE EVERY 6 MONTHS,WHETHER YOU NEED IT OR NOT!

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  37. joke of the
    day
    obummer declares that recession is over

    ROFLMAO

    what a lying sack of po….po….TA….toes

    and i am being kind

  38. Free Speech @ 12:40 pm |
    I wonder if psychiatrists ever figured out what was wrong with the Nazi’s in the first place-megalomaniac, manic depressives with a persecution complex, and major control issues? I read many times that Hitler’s doctors had him all “hopped-up” toward the end of the war, but I don’t think I ever saw what they had him on. Demented in the first place, with drugs to enhance more dementia?
    “The organisms that break down oil excrete mucus — copious amounts of mucus,” Joye says. “So it’s kind of like a slime highway from the surface to the bottom. Because eventually the slime gets heavy and it sinks.”
    Yet another metaphor for the Obama administration-WE THE PEOPLE-WE GOT SLIMED. Even nature is on to this guy. Slime does sink to the bottom-Obama/minions started at the bottom and are starting to dig to the center of the Earth.

  39. RM in NC…………………………………
    If Lakin is convicted it will take months if not years to clear his name,and sadly this could easily happen POSTHUMOUSLY, as it did for Captain McVey of the USS Indianapolis. He too was a SCAPEGOAT for the DO NOTHING upper echelon brass who sorely needed a patsy.

  40. oldsalt79 | September 20, 2010 at 12:53 pm |
    Did you get a chance to read this article over at The Post&Email ?.

    Military Law Manual: Authority to order courts-martial resides with the Commander-in-Chief.

  41. Army DAV ……………………………….
    Been covering some family issues the last few days,and didn’t get any chance to read much of anything. Sort of like a ONE ARMED PAPERHANGER,…………………………………………………………..

  42. Michelle | September 20, 2010 at 1:03 pm |
    Free Speech @ 12:40 pm |
    I wonder if psychiatrists ever figured out what was wrong with the Nazi’s in the first place-megalomaniac, manic depressives with a persecution complex, and major control issues? I read many times that Hitler’s doctors had him all “hopped-up” toward the end of the war, but I don’t think I ever saw what they had him on. Demented in the first place, with drugs to enhance more dementia?
    “The organisms that break down oil excrete mucus — copious amounts of mucus,” Joye says. “So it’s kind of like a slime highway from the surface to the bottom. Because eventually the slime gets heavy and it sinks.”
    Yet another metaphor for the Obama administration-WE THE PEOPLE-WE GOT SLIMED. Even nature is on to this guy. Slime does sink to the bottom-Obama/minions started at the bottom and are starting to dig to the center of the Earth.
    =============================================

    Several reputable Mental Health Professionals have concluded that bo suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder with traits Paranoid Personalty Disorder and Psychopathic Personality Disorder. Same thing with sunstein.

    http://www.webcrawler.com/webcrawler/ws/results/Web/OBAMA%20NARCISSISTIC/1/417/TopNavigation/Relevance/iq=true/zoom=off/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true

  43. Debunking The Islamophobia Card

    Fouad Ajami reports on an opinion survey taken by a leading Arab electronic daily newspaper, regarding the Cordoba mosque and Islamic center to be located at or near (depending on your perspective) Ground Zero.

    But the survey of Arab opinion cited by Ajami shows that many, if not most, people in the Arab world agree that the location selection was unwise.

    So does that make 58% of the Arab world “Islamophobic”?
    http://tinyurl.com/3amqss9

  44. The Buckley Rule…”Support the most conservative candidate who is electable.”

    Now that the general election primary is over, so too is the Buckley Rule. Please take notice that the Lombardi Rule is in effect: “The object is to win fairly, by the rules – but to win.”
    http://tinyurl.com/27bfybf

    I agree with the Lombardi Rule but the Limbaugh Rule: “Vote for Most Conservative Candidate in Primary should henceforth supersede the Buckley Rule.
    http://tinyurl.com/22nxd24

  45. New gay Army
    Top general calls Christian soldiers ‘bigots’

    Last month, a top military official offered a glimpse of how the military might look should the new policy take effect: Those serving who oppose the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) agenda are no longer welcome.

    …these people opposing this new policy will need to get with the program, and if they can’t, they need to get out.
    http://tinyurl.com/3ygny3f

  46. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    RMinNC | September 20, 2010 at 12:27 pm |

    ================================

    Thank you for your opinion and analysis. This kind of topic is exactly why you military guys are so important to this blog. To give us insight and perspective into a world that the rest of us here know less about.

    Right-thinking civilians have the utmost respect for the Military. Some of us used to think that somehow the Military would be the primary way out of the Zero mess. I am not talking about a coup or storming “the position”, but by other means – public awareness, courts martial, even the idea that SURELY any soldier being sent in harm’s way would have STANDING by even the most perverse definition of the term.

    We civilians are VERY DISAPPOINTED in the Senior-most Military seeming to be part of the problem and not part of the solution. And I know that you Military guys are as tight as herrings in a can – and very supportive and protective of your own. I can barely imagine the pain it must cause you guys. It must be very shattering.

  47. lt col latkin judge (JAR) says that the military can do whatever it wants, and obama is NOT the commander in chief.

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/09/19/military-law-manual-authority-to-order-courts-martial-resides-with-the-commander-in-chief/

    That is scary preposition, if that is the case, then WHO is in CHARGE of the military? According to the judge, it’s the pentagon, not OBama. Yet what does the Constitution have to say about the pentagon?

  48. cass sunstein like bo is a MORONIC LUNATIC.

  49. The problem that the obots who post here have with sunsteins MORONIC plan to infiltrate this forum is they like the MORONIC LUNATIC sunstein end up being confused by their own IDIOTIC RANTS.

  50. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Philo-Publius | September 20, 2010 at 1:55 pm |

    Debunking The Islamophobia Card

    ==============================

    I am Islamophobic,
    I am VERY Islamophobic

    You know what ‘phobic’ means? It does not mean ‘hate’.
    It does not even mean ‘irrational hate’ – as in the way
    various degenerates like to sling garbage like ‘racism’ or
    ‘homophobic’.

    ‘Phobic’ means ‘FEAR’. Yes, I am frightened of Islam.
    I am very VERY frightened. I am frightened that
    their agenda is as plain as the noses on their faces.
    I am frightened that or idiot PTBs are either clueless
    or mendacious!

    If there were a mosque in my quiet neighborhood,
    would I hate it? No, not in that sense. But I would
    FEAR it. I would not drive by it on purpose. I
    would not associate or come near any person who
    even looked like they ‘worshiped’ there. Profiling?
    You betcha. It is a basic tool of human survival.

    So, yes – I AM ISLAMOPHOBIC.

  51. GORDO | September 20, 2010 at 12:27 pm |
    More Republican collaborators:
    ===================
    From July 2009:
    ——–
    “John Boehner dismisses birthers”
    *******************************
    Your voice is heard, GORDO, but tell us of one in Congress who wouldn’t dismiss birthers, especially back in July, 2009. For one thing anyone conservative in Congress had their hands full with combatting the massive socialist legislation being thrown upon us by the Dems. To me the secrecy surrounding most of Obama’s roots IS extremely important, but few in government see it that way. That’s just the way things are right now.

  52. Free Speech at 2:22 pm
    cass sunstein like bo is a MORONIC LUNATIC.

    —————————————-
    I think Sunstein is more of a nut case and as the Regulatory Czar, more dangerous.
    http://tinyurl.com/28ys3tn

  53. Obama Supporter Slams President at Town Hall: “Frankly, I’m Exhausted. I’m Tired of Defending You.”
    http://tinyurl.com/2e6brek

  54. Free Speech | September 20, 2010 @ 1:29 pm
    His numbers started tanking in June of 09, is this what is driving adulation man to distraction?
    Monday, September 20, 2010
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 26% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-five percent (45%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -19 (see trends).

  55. Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?
    http://tinyurl.com/2d8fdrg

  56. Recession Ended in June 2009

    The decision by the NBER means that any future downturn in the economy would be considered a new recession and not a continuation of the recession that began in 2007.
    http://tinyurl.com/35v4aoh

  57. CBS Campaign 2010 “Chief Political Consultant” Marc Ambinder’s September 15 prediction that “The media is going to help the Democratic Party’s national messaging.”
    http://tinyurl.com/27zkz8l

    They have been doing that for years.

  58. AZ-legal citizen

    Obama is not for USA citizens nor was he for the IL citizens.

    Obama’s Book “Audacity of Hope” he relates a story about Thornton Township High School where the students complained because their school days were shortened to 1:30pm. 6 hours of school for 9 months average teachers made $83k a yr some made over $100k. The Chicago Teachers Unions are big supporters of Obama and his friends.

    Why do IL citizens still vote for Politicians tied to the Unions?

    IL Top 100 Teacher Salaries For 2009 Average $160,000. There was a story back in FEB 2010.

    As Illinois citizens struggle with the severe economic downturn plaguing the state, Illinois public school employees enjoy another record year of salaries, fringe benefits and pensions. See “Top 100 Teachers Salaries.”

    http://www.cdobs.com/archive/featured/top-100-teacher-salaries-for-2009-average-160000/

  59. Philo-Publius | September 20, 2010 at 2:36 pm | Free Speech at 2:22 pm
    cass sunstein like bo is a MORONIC LUNATIC.

    —————————————-
    I think Sunstein is more of a nut case and as the Regulatory Czar, more dangerous.
    http://tinyurl.com/28ys3tn
    ==============================
    Philo, thanks for these GHOULISH facts about sunstein wanting to harvest human organs.

    http://www.theobamafile.com/_associates/CassSunstein.htm

    Sunstein and Thaler pointed out that doctors often must ask the deceased’s family members whether or not their dead relative would have wanted to donate his organs. These family members usually err on the side of caution and refuse to donate their loved one’s organs.

    “The major obstacle to increasing [organ] donations is the need to get the consent of surviving family members,” said Sunstein and Thaler.

  60. 10,748.66 Stock Market at 3:10 Someone who gets the Tea Party. Loved the first revolution, love this one too.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_lawrence_kudlow/a_bullish_tea_party_revolt
    In short, this is a revolution
    Free-market capitalism is on the comeback trail. That’s one of the key tea-party messages. And make no mistake about it: The free-market power of the tea-party political revolt is totally bullish for stocks and the economy.
    The political elites in both parties don’t get it. Nor do the mainstream media. But the tea-party movement is stopping Obamanomics dead in its tracks. And it will overturn the Keynesian big-government planning effort now in full force in our nation’s capital. The tea parties are Reaganism reincarnate, and then some.

  61. America’s Invisible but Very Real Stealth War

    America is in a state of two undeclared wars. One war is between a false government and “we the people”. The other war officially began 9/11/2001 between Islam and America. The two wars are related to one another in that the imposter in the WH is closely connected to the terrorists of Islam. The reason we the people cannot seem to get winning grasp in this war is because its existence is officially denied by the government –now our enemy. This is the most evil war ever waged in the entire world history.
    We the people cannot destroy an enemy we can neither see nor identify. This is exactly what the enemy wants, so it can steal, lie, bribe, intimidate, ridicule, or convolute the judicial system to do anything it wants against an innocent and naïve “we the people.”

    The primary mind control weapons used in this war are TAQIYA, SAUL ALINSKY’S RULES FOR RADICALS, OBFUSCATION, CONVOLUTION, POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, PROPAGANDA, INDOCTRINATION, CHANGING THE WORDS IN OUR SACRED DOCUMENTS, CONFUSION AND CHAOS.

    Among the generals in this war are Imam Rauf, George Soros, Khalidi Mansur, Michele & Barack Sotoero aka Obama. The rank and file are David Axlerod, Rahm Immanuel, Valerie Jarret, Van Jones, Cass Sustein, Harry Dirty Reid, Nancy Pelosi, main stream media, CAIR, Eric Holder, Hillary & Bill Clinton, the entire Obama czar collection, Elena Kagen, Sonia Sotomayer and many others.

    One of their most effective weapons of this invisible war is political correctness. They believe if they refuse to call a pig a pig “we the people” will accept it as a goat. That is to say if the words “war on terror” are no longer permitted to be used and replaced with “man made disaster”—there will be no more terrorist attacks upon citizens in America or the western world. Any so called attacks that appear as if they are done by Muslim terrorist in the name of Allah financially sponsored by known terrorist leaders are merely coincidental and are the acts of only one disturbed individual. The promote Islam as a religion. They use Muslims around the world to intimidate people to force them to give in to Islamic demands. Then they play the victim card. This is nothing but taqiya in tandem with the government.

    While this taqiya government is assuring America there are no terrorists, no war upon America from Islam, (only a few extreme Muslims), they are using their strategy, following their blue print, and completing their check list to totally destroy America from within, shred the Bill of Rights, The Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution. Simultaneously this regime is destroying our Christian/Judeo Faith, our economy, our sacred traditions and trying every way it can to get Americans to give up its weapons, take the word “God” out of government, believe the misrepresented history in our education system, accept America as a “Muslim country”. They are attempting to order us to be glad funding NASA was stopped. Hence forward we should love the fact they insult and degrade us by demanding NASA be turned into an institution to make “Muslims feel better about themselves.” (Maybe if Muslims would stop marrying little children, beating and murdering them, and learn to become tolerant of other religions they might feel better about themselves.)
    It is all being done via Muslim leaders living in America with the financial backing and political support of a Muslim usurper who calls himself a Christian for the purpose of getting the vote of the poor and ignorant American. The sole purpose of deceptively named the “religion of peace” is to persuade American citizens to drop their guard while Muslims in partnership with this treasonous government lay the ground work to fully take over America and Islamize it totally under sharia law. Then America, along with the rest of the western countries will be forced to submit to ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT (They call it new world order). By the time America realizes what has happened –it will be forever—TOO LATE.

    This is war upon America on EVERY FACET OF OUR LIVES—EVEN EATING AT MCDONALDS. The way to fight this is to call it what it is and let no one ridicule you. The time to start fighting back is NOW.
    Here is how. Call it what it really is. Keep calling what it is.
    1.AMERICA IS IN AN INTERNAL WAR WITH THE GOVERNMENT. We are under an illegal government created by a coup de etat via an ineligible person to be president. The vote of the people does not over rule the laws of the constitution. Consequently, we the people are at war with this government. This is war.

    2.THIS IS AN ILLEGAL GOVERNMENT.
    Barry Sotoero is an illegal alien who is a major accomplice in this war. This usurper is a Muslim leader who supports terrorist groups, aids and abets Americas’ enemies. It is purposely committing acts against America in favor of Islam, the UN, and New World Order. WE the People are directly opposed to these concepts.

    3.OBAMA IS A COCONSPIRATOR WITH JIHADIST ISLAM. Islam is increasing its power in America under the shield of freedom of religion. The government is perpetrating the lie by calling Islam a RELIGION. Under freedom of religion it is setting up political power basis, fund raising for jihadist terrorists, Islamic propaganda, and myriad non religious activities to harm America.

    4.ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION. Therefore we must challenge the identification of Islam as a religion and demand it be redefined as a government. For this, among many other reasons we must never allow the so-called mosque be built at GZ.
    The new world order people have been working for over fifty years (even longer) to bring America to where she is at now. They can almost taste her blood. They have planted Muslims all over the world to help destroy those countries, too. They believe with enough catastrophe, hunger, fear and any other good “crisis” citizens of countries all over the world will gladly capitulate to a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT to save them. WE MUST NOT ALLOW THEM. WE CAN STOP THEM.

  62. UK to confiscate paychecks in private sector?

    The British government’s tax agency has proposed a new process for employers in the private and public sectors to pay their workers. Instead of actually giving the money to the employees, they’ll pay Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs, which will then decide just how much to allow the workers to keep:

    http://tinyurl.com/283y385

    Just wait until Obama and his cohorts read about this.

  63. bo is BECOMING MENTALLY UNGLUED because he is being confronted with reality that nearly half of the American People despise him and another 25 % dislike him leaving only the certifiably insane who still strongly approve of him.

  64. Free Speech @ 2:22 pm |
    “cass sunstein like bo is a MORONIC LUNATIC.” and boring too.
    He and other Obama loony tunes are very damaging to Harvard’s reputation. I doubt many loyal Americans will even consider donating to Harvard sedition university.
    Cass R. Sunstein is currently the Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law at Harvard Law School.

  65. On several threads back I posted a site for Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist who now speaks out against the dangers of Islam.

    For those who might have missed it, here is the link which has a very important video (quite short). It sometimes takes a moment for it to appear on the page. This sheik is speaking to a group of men to inspire them to advance the cause of Islam.

    MEMRI TV Translates Public Broadcast of PLO (2005)

    http://www.shoebat.com/videos/palestinianTv.php
    Be sure to listen to the very end. Here is a partial quote:

    “Where did these super powers go? He who made them disappear will make America disappear too, Allah willing. We have ruled the world before. The day will come when we will rule the entire world again……when we will rule America.”

    If anyone has any doubts as to their intentions, this diatribe should dispel it.

  66. usapatriots-shout 3:13 PM
    America’s Invisible but Very Real Stealth War
    *********************************
    Excellent essay! You have covered the bases, exposing both fronts which are arrayed against us. This truly is a battle of good vs. evil – the forces of darkness against light – the power of the devil against an Almighty God.
    And isn’t it something the way all of the evil and deception is being denied in one way or another by those whom we have elected to lead us? It is almost as though to deny its existence is to make it so. Mind boggling, to say the least, and downright horrible at its worst.

  67. Vice President Biden: ‘I’m second in line to be president!’
    http://tinyurl.com/2778kku

  68. Free Speech @ 3:19 pm | I think sometimes Obama/minions and other cult followers never got past the terrible two’s and actually regressed.

  69. Michelle | September 20, 2010 at 2:47 pm |
    Free Speech | September 20, 2010 @ 1:29 pm
    His numbers started tanking in June of 09, is this what is driving adulation man to distraction?
    ============================================

    If you read or listen to reports on bo’s MENTAL ILLNESS, you learn that a trait of Narcissist Personality Disorder is SELF LOATHING. It is understandable that bo hates himself being that he is most aware of what a DESPICABLE MISCREANT he is. To compensate for his SELF-HATRED, bo projects a FALSE IMAGE of himself. This only works as long as the public is deceived by bo’s false image. It is clear that the majority of Americans are no longer deceived so bo is facing a MENTAL CRISIS.

  70. Free Speech @ 3:39 pm |
    I hope the inevitable crash happens on live TV so that all can witness the fool-and so that they can’t doctor more evidence.

  71. da verg | September 20, 2010 at 2:21 pm |

    Answer: Cheney

  72. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Philo-Publius | September 20, 2010 at 3:13 pm |

    UK to confiscate paychecks in private sector?

    =============================

    That is total unacceptable NONSENSE!
    But of course it’s coming to Amerika!

    That being nonsense, this is SENSE:

    For someone else to decide that because someone makes above a certain amount of money they should have their taxes raised is completely arbitrary, and arbitrariness is the enemy of individual freedom.

    The famous Scottish political economist John Ramsey McCulloch summarized this objection as follows: “The moment you abandon the cardinal principle of exacting from all individuals the same proportion of their income or of their property, you are at sea without rudder or compass, and there is no amount of injustice and folly you may not commit.”

    Contemporary conservative-libertarian economist and political philosopher Thomas Sowell leveled an even sharper attack on the policy: “Once you buy the argument that some segment of the citizenry should lose their rights, just because they are envied or resented, you are putting your own rights in jeopardy — quite aside from undermining any moral basis for respecting anybody’s rights. You are opening the floodgates to arbitrary power. And once you open the floodgates, you can’t tell the water where to go.”

    The truth is that it is easier to go the above route – of taxing a minority to pay for programs that benefit the majority – than to make the majority decide whether or not they really support such programs in the first place. At this time, it is likely that the majority of Americans would forsake many government programs that have no Constitutional basis in favor of keeping their current tax rate where it is at. Democrats know this and therefore, they want to stay as far away as possible from the genuine debate.

    Read the whole thing here:
    http://americasright.com/?p=5829

  73. Cabby – AZ | September 20, 2010 at 2:36 pm |
    GORDO | September 20, 2010 at 12:27 pm |
    More Republican collaborators:
    ===================
    From July 2009:
    ——–
    “John Boehner dismisses birthers”
    *******************************
    Your voice is heard, GORDO, but tell us of one in Congress who wouldn’t dismiss birthers, especially back in July, 2009. For one thing anyone conservative in Congress had their hands full with combatting the massive socialist legislation being thrown upon us by the Dems. To me the secrecy surrounding most of Obama’s roots IS extremely important, but few in government see it that way. That’s just the way things are right now.
    ___________________________

    Cabby AZ – remember many of us sent and hand delivered criminal complaints to our Republican State Attorney Generals and have never recv’d a response. Not a phone call. Not a letter. Nothing.

    Please, if you truly want change in Congress, R’s must be on the hot seat as well. They too ignored their thousands of constituent letters demanding accountability and recv’d the same crappola from the R’s that others did from the D’s.

    Furthermor, it was Justice Roberts, a Supreme Court Justice who flubbed publicly on his swearing in and this man was appointed by Dubya. Also, Cheney, being the President of the Senate asked for no NAY votes so even if a D or an R wanted to object the Republican Cheney did not ask for said vote. Third, the break in at the State Dept was under Dubya’s watch. It’s been three years with one man executed yet we know little more today about this break in than we did three years ago.

    Offering a defense for anyone either R or D is irresponsible at best. Oh, and I live in Cantor’s district. I personally sent him the complaint along with a very personal note to his private email account. Has he ever responded? Not once.

    All of them must go – R’s and D’s. No more making excuses for ALL OF THESE TREASONOUS CRIMINALS!!!

  74. Michelle | September 20, 2010 at 3:37 pm |
    Free Speech @ 3:19 pm | I think sometimes Obama/minions and other cult followers never got past the terrible two’s and actually regressed.
    =============================================

    bo is just another WORTHLESS SEXUALLY ABUSED child, abandoned by his father and mother. Sexually abused by his Grandfather and his Pal Frank Marshall Davis.

    Although bo is characteristic of EXTREME PARENTAL ABUSE, there are many abused and neglected children in America. These REJECTS of SOCIETY are the SICK people who strongly approve of the SADO-MASOCHIST bo. These SICK people have a COMPULSION TO ABUSE AND BE ABUSED.

    http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n07/doencas/killers_i.htm

  75. While you people are sharing your hatred and phobia for an entire people, the rest of the world is watching what’s happening at the UN Summit this week. Why? Because Obama has an agreement signed to levy a tax on you and me to pay for, get this, climate change…redistribution of our wealth.
    Stirring up hatred is more important, or better yet, it’s working to divert your attention away from matters that you should really fear.

    http://www.t-room.us/2010/09/globalists-push-world-transaction-tax-at-un-summit/

  76. bo certainly fits this profile.

    Read more: How to Spot a Serial Killer

    http://www.ehow.com/how_2156571_spot-serial-killer.html#ixzz106Py0iGM

    Consider the fact that many serial killers have been abused as children. The abuse can be physical, sexual, emotional, verbal or a combination of all of these. They may have a history of being bullied or teased by other children in grade school or junior high.

  77. Helen 3:55 PM
    Offering a defense for anyone either R or D is irresponsible at best. Oh, and I live in Cantor’s district. I personally sent him the complaint along with a very personal note to his private email account. Has he ever responded? Not once.

    All of them must go – R’s and D’s. No more making excuses for ALL OF THESE TREASONOUS CRIMINALS!!!
    ****************************************
    Helen, you seem to be misconstruing my comments about Rep. Boehner to imply that I approve of these Repubs when it comes to the birth issue and O’s secrecy. That couldn’t be further from the truth. I was speaking from THEIR viewpoint – the way THEY see things. I agree it is a rotten deal, but you appear to be so extremely cynical at this point that I don’t think there is a person living that would qualify, in your opinion.

    With all due respect, that attitude can be very destructive and paralyzing to a person. We ARE living in the real world; there are some things we can change and some that we cannot. We need the wisdom to know the difference, don’t we? This world is an imperfect place, and it will continue to be, because the people that live in it are not perfect – never have been.

  78. Helen,
    Considering that in all of o’s town halls todate, all of the questions were preprogrammed and the ones chosen to ask were plants, this line of questioning is verty telling.

  79. 2:36 pm —

    “For one thing anyone conservative in Congress had their hands full with combatting the massive socialist legislation being thrown upon us by the Dems.”
    ———–
    For one thing anyone conservative in Congress had the ability to combat the ‘massive socialist legislation’ being thrown upon us by the Dems. But all gave Obama ‘cover’ by dismissing the eligibility questions. They were/are enablers of the ‘massive socialist legislation’.
    ======
    “To me the secrecy surrounding most of Obama’s roots IS extremely important, but few in government see it that way.”
    ———–
    To them the secrecy surrounding most of Obama’s roots IS extremely important, and everyone in government sees it that way.

  80. Michelle | September 20, 2010 at 3:43 pm |
    Free Speech @ 3:39 pm |
    I hope the inevitable crash happens on live TV so that all can witness the fool-and so that they can’t doctor more evidence.
    =====================================

    Most people expect a SADO-MASOCHIST like bo to LOOK HAUGHTY & HATEFUL but that is only 1/2 of the PERSONALITY DISORDER. In bo’s SICK MIND, bo thinks that he is the one who is being ABUSED.

    When I worked for TBS, I did a documentary on a serial killer in Atlanta. When I interviewed him in his jail cell, he had the same look in his eyes as bo.

    bo’s psychic meltdown is already happening, just look at his eyes in this video. The eyes are the windows into bo’s SICK MIND.

  81. Also notice in the videos how when bo is AFRAID, he always covers his gential area. Why is that? Could it be when bo is FRIGHTENED he has a PTSD flashback to being RAPED by FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS?

  82. Cabby AZ – the hostility or anger you are picking up from me is the hatred I read, by some, not all, on this thread today. How does one even justify putting up a post like this. CW would never do such a thing so who is really behind the CW curtain now. I’ve been posting here for two years and not once has CW ever stoked such flames. It’s very disappointing to this longtime reader.

    Secondly, if this global tax is passed it’s the tax that will open America to the NWO. I don’t know about you, but losing my country to the UN scares the bajeebus out of me.

    Third, you have been around this board for sometime as well as many other’s, if you can’t sniff out propaganda by now, what in heavens name is it going to take? The gentleman in the video, with whom there was no second video to watch and learn what he had to say in the interview, only a voiceover telling the audience what he said is Israeli and likely Mossad. It’s a propaganda piece intentionally designed to stir your hatred for an entire people. You know better than that, Cabby.

    Everyone who posts here should know better and how to differentiate b/w propaganda and true journalism. Which btw I’m missing more and more of when I journey over to catch up.

    Where is CW? Who bought this site and never told the posters? Because the CW I came to know is not the CW we’re seeing today.

  83. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=134117

    Children who have been tortured and programmed can be given incredible abilities.

    It is possible that Barack has no memory of what his father figure friend did to him.

    In his shocking tell-all, Davis admits to seducing a thirteen year-old girl, voyeurism, exhibitionism, bisexuality, rape and sadomasochism.

    Barack, called “Barry” as a child, was a mere ten year old when he first met the family friend who lead a secret double life.

    What really happened to Barack during the years he was a special friend of Frank Marshall Davis?

  84. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/2601914/Frank-Marshall-Davis-alleged-Communist-was-early-influence-on-Barack-Obama.html

    It has also been established that Mr Davis, who divorced in 1970, was the author of a hard-core pornographic autobiography published in San Diego in 1968 by Greenleaf Classics under the pseudonym Bob Greene.

    In a surviving portion of an autobiographical manuscript, Mr Davis confirms that he was the author of Sex Rebel: Black after a reader had noticed the “similarities in style and phraseology” between the pornographic work and his poetry.

    “I could not then truthfully deny that this book, which came out in 1968 as a Greenleaf Classic, was mine.” In the introduction to Sex Rebel, Mr Davis (writing as Greene) explains that although he has “changed names and identities…all incidents I have described have been taken from actual experiences”.

    He stated that “under certain circumstances I am bisexual” and that he was “ a voyeur and an exhibitionist” who was “occasionally mildly interested in sado-masochism”, adding: “I have often wished I had two penises to enjoy simultaneously the double – but different – sensations of oral and genital copulation.”

  85. http://politicalpyro.blogsome.com/2008/08/26/obama-cover-up/

    The Obama Cover-ups

    Posted by Political Pyro in Media Firestorm August 26, 2008

    Occasionally, ships need to be hauled into dry dock so the barnacles can be scraped off and a fresh coat of paint applied to the hull. Likewise, every few miles the Obama campaign bus needs to pull over so Axelrod can hose off the sludge from Barry’s past.

    Here’s just a sample of what I’ve found:

    #1 — Frank Marshall Davis

    Apparently, the Canadians, the National Enquirer, and a few bloggers are the only ones interested in truly vetting Barack Obama. Canada Free Press has a multitude of information about Obama’s “other mentor” being a member of the Communist Party (see here, here, and here for starters).

  86. Free Speech @ 4:27 pm |
    “When I worked for TBS, I did a documentary on a serial killer in Atlanta. When I interviewed him in his jail cell, he had the same look in his eyes as bo.” What an interesting guy Mr. TBS happens to be, does he still own it? or did he retire again?
    Most of Obama’s pictures on that video could make your skin crawl but the one with his eyes half rolling back in his head was particularly creepy.

  87. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) at 3:48 pm |

    Philo-Publius | September 20, 2010 at 3:13 pm |
    UK to confiscate paychecks in private sector?

    =============================
    That is total unacceptable NONSENSE!
    But of course it’s coming to Amerika!

    That being nonsense, this is SENSE:

    ———————————-
    From the article at America’s Right.

    Thomas Sowell leveled an even sharper attack on the policy: “Once you buy the argument that some segment of the citizenry should lose their rights, just because they are envied or resented, you are putting your own rights in jeopardy — quite aside from undermining any moral basis for respecting anybody’s rights. You are opening the floodgates to arbitrary power. And once you open the floodgates, you can’t tell the water where to go.”

    That’s why Thomas Sowell is one of my favorite writers. Thanks for that link.

  88. Michelle | September 20, 2010 at 5:02 pm |
    Free Speech @ 4:27 pm |
    “When I worked for TBS, I did a documentary on a serial killer in Atlanta. When I interviewed him in his jail cell, he had the same look in his eyes as bo.” What an interesting guy Mr. TBS happens to be, does he still own it? or did he retire again?
    Most of Obama’s pictures on that video could make your skin crawl but the one with his eyes half rolling back in his head was particularly creepy.
    ==============================================
    bo sort of looks like Linda Blair in the “Exorcist,” Huh? Can’t wait to see the videos of bo’s when he starts VOMITING his BILE on camera. LOL!

    Ted had TBS taken away from him by the major stockholders after he nearly bankrupted the company with junk bond debt. It turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to Ted because when his shares were bought out by Time Warner, he made 9 Billion on the sale.

  89. Free Speech @ 4:46 pm |
    “Barack, called “Barry” as a child, was a mere ten year old when he first met the family friend who lead a secret double life. ”
    where was the family or adult supervision that would allow something like this to happen to any child? very sick family friend-something wrong with the family too?

  90. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Helen | September 20, 2010 at 4:37 pm |

    ================================

    What are you talking about? I went back and scanned this thread and found nothing unusual or off-center. I mean, I’m one of your favorite whipping boys, and I didn’t even post anything remotely controversial today.

    What specter are you seeing hiding in what shadow?

  91. Michelle | September 20, 2010 at 5:14 pm |
    Free Speech @ 4:46 pm |
    “Barack, called “Barry” as a child, was a mere ten year old when he first met the family friend who lead a secret double life. ”
    where was the family or adult supervision that would allow something like this to happen to any child? very sick family friend-something wrong with the family too?
    ==========================================

    I suspect that bo was RAPED by his WHITE GRANDPA too which would explain his COMPULSION to have FELATIO with OLDER WHITE MEN.

  92. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    If the Military guy’s heads haven’t exploded already, this ought to do it. Yeah, we have known about this for some time, but to see it actually in-print in a reputable place – it’s just mind-numbing.

    AND NOBODY CARES!

    Obama Imprisons 10 for Killing Al-Qaeda Agents
    By Suzanne Eovaldi

    Cruel. Despicable. Mean. Demonic. Deplorable. Duplicitous. Deceitful. Hypocritical. Dishonorable.

    No words in the dictionary are adequate to describe what is being done to 10 brave U.S. soldiers and Marines who are languishing in the Fort Leavenworth brigade. They are there for volunteering to protect us and after being placed into the fog of war to fight our enemies, “violating” our military’s feckless politically correct Rules of Engagement (RoE).

    Read the whole thing here:
    http://www.coachisright.com/mad-as-hell-day-is-sept-23-stand-with-the-leavenworth-ten-against-cowardly-rules-of-engagement/#

  93. AZ-legal citizen

    Sami Samir Hassoun – Another non muslim terrorist? Chicago Man Charged in Plot to Set Off Bomb Near Cubs’ Wrigley Field Home..

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-20/chicago-man-charged-by-u-s-in-plot-to-bomb-city-s-north-side-neighborhood.html

  94. Free Speech | September 20, 2010 at 5:34 pm |
    Michelle | September 20, 2010 at 5:14 pm |
    Free Speech @ 4:46 pm |
    “Barack, called “Barry” as a child, was a mere ten year old when he first met the family friend who lead a secret double life. ”
    where was the family or adult supervision that would allow something like this to happen to any child? very sick family friend-something wrong with the family too?
    ==========================================

    Let’s NOT FEEL SORRY for bo, that is a TACTIC SADO-MASOCHISTS like bo use to ABUSE their victims.

    We don’t feel any sympathy for Ted Bundy, Dahmer or John Wayne Gacy.

    bo is just like those other PERVERTED MISCREANTS. Never forget how he has POISONED the people of the Gulf Coast.

  95. Hypothetical Question – Is It Time?

    I watched the CNBC TownHall meeting today with the USURPER. For the first time in my several years of watching him, he showed a side of himself that seemed very human. His intellect in discussing business matters was very knowledgeable. No TOTUS was used and he spoke directly to small and big business people with what appeared to be a total understanding of the economical problems.
    The Big Question – If he were to admit there might be some question in his eligibility and that he is not sure of it even though he was a Constitutionalists professor, would we the “Birthers” who represent about 2% of the voting population forgive him?

    Ecclesiastes 3
    A Time for Everything
    1 There is a time for everything,
    and a season for every activity under heaven:

    2 a time to be born and a time to die,
    a time to plant and a time to uproot,

    3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
    a time to tear down and a time to build,

    4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
    a time to mourn and a time to dance,

    5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
    a time to embrace and a time to refrain,

    6 a time to search and a time to give up,
    a time to keep and a time to throw away,

    7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
    a time to be silent and a time to speak,

    8 a time to love and a time to hate,
    a time for war and a time for peace.

    9 What does the worker gain from his toil? 10 I have seen the burden God has laid on men. 11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end. 12 I know that there is nothing better for men than to be happy and do good while they live. 13 That everyone may eat and drink, and find satisfaction in all his toil—this is the gift of God. 14 I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added to it and nothing taken from it. God does it so that men will revere him.

    15 Whatever is has already been,
    and what will be has been before;
    and God will call the past to account. [a]

    16 And I saw something else under the sun:
    In the place of judgment—wickedness was there,
    in the place of justice—wickedness was there.

    17 I thought in my heart,
    “God will bring to judgment
    both the righteous and the wicked,
    for there will be a time for every activity,
    a time for every deed.”

    18 I also thought, “As for men, God tests them so that they may see that they are like the animals. 19 Man’s fate is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath [b] ; man has no advantage over the animal. Everything is meaningless. 20 All go to the same place; all come from dust, and to dust all return. 21 Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and if the spirit of the animal [c] goes down into the earth?”

    22 So I saw that there is nothing better for a man than to enjoy his work, because that is his lot. For who can bring him to see what will happen after him.

    AMEN

    PS – I know what the lawyers will say – If he asks for forgiveness, he is admitting guilt. BUT IF HE HUMBLES HIMSELF BEFORE THE LORD WHO CARES?

  96. If you don’t know the difference between a War and a Love In, you shouldn’t be fighting a War or be a fake CinC. When Japan attacked Pearl Harbor they went all in, in order to win the war, the United States and her allies had to go all in to win the war. George Washington wasn’t dancing with the British during the Revolutionary War-they were the enemy-it boils down to kill or be killed-the nature of War.

  97. obots need to go to sunstein’s blog to beg for forgiveness for bo.

  98. ms. helga | September 20, 2010 at 6:12 pm |

    Helga, what are you talking about? Forgiveness? Of course every person is eligible for forgiveness on any subject. But what are you saying here? Forgive and forget? Keep the status quo if he apologizes? Let him stay in office because he said, “Aw shucks, I’m sorry” (and best of all for you he did it without a teleprompter?

    Most of us don’t really care about what happens to him when the lie is exposed. We just want our government back so we can live our lives peacefully with as little government intrusion as necessary (this does not mean that I do not believe in safety nets, public education etc.). The sooner that he steps down or is removed through impeachment, the sooner that particular goal can be realized. Obama may be the current leader of the socialist movement in the United States, but there are many others like him (all over the world) that want to control our lives as well. So the work will not be done battling these people in the realm of public opinion when Obama is gone.

  99. Please visit http://museumofinnocence.org

    I am an adult survivor of all forms of child abuse. It ruined the rest of my life. I was nearly 50 years of age before I felt safe enough to deal with it. The break through came to me in the form of a vision while I was doing a landscape on site. The following morning, I painted that vision.

    That painting led me to a therapist whose specialty of adult survival of child abuse. As one epiphany after another came forward, I did great big paintings in passionate anger I was going to tell the world what happened to me. The paintings gathered around my studio. They were the story of my life. Every time a stranger had reason to be in my studio for some repair, the stranger would become engrossed in those paintings I at times didn’t even notice. Within ten minutes of viewing the paintings, those strangers would be sharing their own child abuse stories. Eventually I came to believe the truth in my own paintings mirrored the truth in many viewers’ lives. I had a few public shows to which the public viewed these paintings very favorably because they felt they took the practice of child abuse out of the closet and exposed it for what it is.

    The therapist recommended many books for me to read on the subject of child abuse. One in particular inspired me to paint about Hitler, who was also a severely abused child until his father passed away. That book led me to ask: HAD HITLER NOT BEEN AN ABUSED CHILD, WOULD THERE HAVE BEEN A WORLD WAR II?

    I had the pain/pleasure to visit the Simon Wiesenthal’s Museum of Tolerance. It is exquisitely presented. It inspired me to want to build The Museum of Innocence. For many reasons, I wasn’t able to raise the funds to launch it. The best I could do was create http://museumofinnocence.org.
    Maybe someday it might become a reality.

    Since so much talk about Barry’s own abused child hood has been on the site today, may I suggest you visit museumofinnocence.org? Quite a few of my abuse paintings are on that site–including the vision I had that started me. Please feel free to comment. Maybe some day some way this idea will become a reality. But first we have to rid the world of Obama and his scumbags.

  100. Free Speech | September 20, 2010 at 6:46 pm |
    obots need to go to sunstein’s blog to beg for forgiveness for bo.
    ____________________________________________________

    I must have been typing when you wrote this… I almost spit my glass of water on my screen in laughter when I read Helga’s post.

  101. Months ago American Grand Jury posted a close up picture of the fly on Zero’s face and I posted the link to comment on his eyes.

    Always watch his eyes.

    Dead.

    Distant.

    Empty.

    There’s just nothing there.

  102. Breaking:

    Shooting at Ft. Bliss.

  103. Clarification.

    I meant ZERO’S eyes.

    Grammar is key.

  104. Mother American / Father Kenyan = Dual Citizenship = ineligible for office of Commander in Chief… Time to kick some butt!!!

  105. Michelle,
    I AM THE RESISTANCE….
    But, for me, it did not begin with the deathcare bill…it began 2008, with the BAILOUT theft.

  106. Paxson – If he admits he is wrong he then identifies himself as a USURPER and his followers will become very upset and seek his punishment. But being the clever Usurper he is, he just might outsmart himself (he’s a lawyer, you know) and followers and self indict(destruct) himself. Comprende?
    We are at a stalemate and it needs to be resolved.
    His performance this afternoon showed a side that was different.

    Breaking News -Shooting at Fort Hood.

  107. Paxson | September 20, 2010 at 6:54 pm | ms. helga | September 20, 2010 at 6:12 pm |

    Helga, what are you talking about? Forgiveness? Of course every person is eligible for forgiveness on any subject. But what are you saying here? Forgive and forget? Keep the status quo if he apologizes? Let him stay in office because he said, “Aw shucks, I’m sorry” (and best of all for you he did it without a teleprompter?
    ===============================================

    bo can beg the judges and juries for forgiveness when he is tried multiple times for capital crimes. Maybe they will let him off easy with life sentences.

  108. ms. helga | September 20, 2010 at 6:12 pm |

    Hypothetical Question – Is It Time?

    *******************
    2% , where did this poll come from ?.

    Forgive evil ?.

  109. The single most important thing you can do today..Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is pushing the DREAM Act Amnesty on the Dept. of Defense Authorization bill that comes on the Senate floor Tuesday. CALL YOUR SENATORS NOW and urge them to oppose the DREAM Act. Capitol switchboard: (202) 224-3121. Ask for your Senator’s office ~ tell them VOTE NO on the DREAM Act!!

  110. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    ms. helga | September 20, 2010 at 6:12 pm |

    ==================================

    Are you really Ms. Helga?
    Is this your VERY FEEBLE attempt at humor?

    If not, you have stepped into a cowpie bigger
    than all the sins of all of us here have ever
    committed added together.

    FORGIVENESS? Are you out of your mind?

    The sins and evil this monster have perpetrated
    are far too big to either forgive or forget.

    This evil MUST be punished to the FULL
    EXTENT of the law. Get my drift?

    What God does is up to God. But men cannot
    tolerate infiltrators in their midst. To do so
    would be cultural and national suicide.

  111. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    ABSOLUTELY STUNNING

    Stunning total depravity in our culture.
    Revisionist history gone wild ! ! !

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=204965

  112. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Why don’t news people tell the truth?

    This was pretty benign, can you imagine what would
    have happened if he had stated some incediary truth?

    ABSOLUTE PROOF WE CANNOT TRUST
    EVEN THE “WELL INTENTIONED” MEDIA

    WJLA-TV fires veteran anchor

    By Paul Farhi
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, September 17, 2010

    WJLA-TV has fired veteran anchorman Doug McKelway for a verbal confrontation this summer with the station’s news director that came after McKelway broadcast a sharply worded live report about congressional Democrats and President Obama.

    McKelway was placed on indefinite suspension in late July after his run-in with ABC7’s news director and general manager, Bill Lord. In a letter to McKelway this week, the station said it was terminating his contract immediately, citing insubordination and misconduct.

    Amid the ongoing BP oil spill in July, McKelway covered a Capitol Hill demonstration by environmental groups protesting the influence of oil-industry contributions to members of Congress.

    In his piece, McKelway said the sparsely attended event attracted protesters “largely representing far-left environmental groups.” He went on to say the protest “may be a risky strategy because the one man who has more campaign contributions from BP than anybody else in history is now sitting in the Oval Office, President Barack Obama, who accepted $77,051 in campaign contributions from BP.”

    After a brief taped segment updating efforts to cap the BP well, McKelway added that the Senate was unlikely to pass “cap-and-trade” legislation this year, because “the Democrats are looking at the potential for huge losses in Congress come the midterm elections. And the last thing they want to do is propose a huge escalation in your electric bill, your utility bill, before then.”

  113. So, I have a question. Seeing it was utterly ignored earlier.

    Who owns CW’s site now, because it isn’t our long-time friend CW. Is it you FS? Is it Sam? Is it AIPAC? Honestly, who is the owner and now managing this blogsite. Trust me. I know it’s now our dear friend CW. He’d never, ever, ever post the dribble pro Israel crappola the new owners are. Not in a million years. You know how I know, b/c CW was ALWAYS nonpartisan and only sought the truth no matter the consequences!

    Whoever own’s this site now, come clean, your posters deserve nothing but honesty.

  114. Since you run the board FS, I can only assume it is you.

    Therefore, come clean with the rest of us and tell us who owns and manages this site now? C’mon, fess up. We know it’s not CW from yore, NO, it’s someone else, who has an agenda and who thinks we posters are stupid enough to not notice. The only group in the entire country who is infiltrating such blogsites and paying a handsome fee to purchase them is AIPAC. How do I know, ask Michelle Malkin and her earning $60k to sell her sister site.

    Now, allow me to add this, I do not care who owns CW’s winning site. What I do care about is using his good name aka his brand to further your hateful propaganda toward anyone who does not support your hateful position toward the Arab, Muslim community.

    I promise. I will out you. I will write a story about you and I will demand truth and honesty. You will not get away with clouding these good people’s minds with your hate and propaganda. Trust me, better yet, tell me how I’m wrong!

  115. TruthSeeker | September 20, 2010 at 6:58 pm |

    Months ago American Grand Jury posted a close up picture of the fly on Zero’s face and I posted the link to comment on his eyes.

    Always watch his eyes.

    Dead.

    Distant.

    Empty.

    There’s just nothing there
    *************************************************
    Just like Muhammad Ata, the terrorist that flew a jet into the world trade center.

  116. Helen | September 20, 2010 at 8:52 pm |

    For God’s sake, Helen, you are nuts. Not one week ago, the Brits arrested 6 Muslim men conspiring to kill the Pope. Nobody hates the Arab, Muslim community. It is the other way around, Muslims are at war with Western Civilization. We are protecting ourselves.

  117. Oh..forgot about the 22 year old Muslim man in Chicago attempting a bombing to kill innocent people outside of Wrigley Stadium a few days ago…

    Get lost Helen. You have other objectives here.

  118. I am half way through “Atlas Shrugged”…it is too eerie how it mirrors today in America.

    Regarding the video…VOTER’S REMORSE?? WATCH HIS SMIRKY LAUGH AT ‘AMERICA’, NOT JUST THE LADY.
    VERY TELLING–ANY VOTER NOT ‘GETTING IT’, EMPLOYED OR UNEMPLOYED, SHOULD NOW BE ‘GETTING IT’!!

  119. Paxson | September 20, 2010 at 9:06 pm |
    Helen | September 20, 2010 at 8:52 pm |

    For God’s sake, Helen, you are nuts.
    ===============================

    U got that Right!

    Btw, I obviously do not own this site. If I did Helen and sunstein’s obots would be permanently banned. They do nothing but disrupt and distract intelligent discussion.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/02/winning-against-obots-and-astroturfers.html

  120. Paxson | September 20, 2010 at 9:11 pm |

    Get lost Helen. You have other objectives here.
    =======================================

    AMEN!

  121. JJ,
    Where’s Obama’s response to the lady who dressed him down? Did he blame Bush again?

  122. This is on “The Blaze” right now…

    Colin Powell Decries ‘Nonsense’ Attacks on Obama
    “Let’s not go down low.”
    http://www.theblaze.com/

    What’s Glen trying to say here?

  123. oh, bugooer off FS, you do to own this site now. As a blog owner myself, I’d never let you post your GJ info the way you do daily three and four times a day. Who in the heck do you think you are fooling?

    Paxson, I might suggest to you to do a bit of research all by yourself to learn it wasn’t Muslims, it was Mossad agents who look Arabic.

    You’re a fool, and I mean a real big ass fool, if you think we who post here haven’t figured out that ALL, AND I MEAN ALL of the terrorist attacks perpetrated on American’s and Brit’s aren’t MOSSAD AGENTS. Hello? How stupid do you take us for.

    And Paxson, there is no part of me, NONE, that is nuts. I’m just sick and tired of drool and dribble of hate toward an entire people who has never done a damned thing to harm us Americans. The only one’s doing that are our allies, ISRAEL! If you’re a part of that mosaic, I might suggest you get your dual citizenship passport together and go home and leave us American’s the hell alone!

    We’ll see if this gets posted…

  124. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    HELEN – WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
    I DID NOT IGNORE YOU – I ASKED EARLIER

  125. Outside of the fact that millionaire Obama lets his aunt live on public assistance and doesn’t help her to get off the dole, there are many different layers to this story. The least of which being the complete lack of gratitude for any help that she has received. http://wbztv.com/local/obama.aunt.zeituni.2.1921954.html

  126. 911 truther obot psy-ops agents are still stinkin up the joint.

  127. Free Speech | September 20, 2010 at 9:16 pm |
    Paxson | September 20, 2010 at 9:11 pm |

    Get lost Helen. You have other objectives here.
    =======================================

    AMEN!
    _____________________

    Paxson, it is obvious to me, at least, that you are tag teaming with FS now. Good for you. Hope they are paying you well.

    Allow me to make this abundantly clear to all of you. The gentleman who started this blogsite and built it to be NUMBER ONE in the WP blogosphere no longer owns or manages this site. Sure someone uses his username to appear every once and awhile, but it’s not the CW hundreds of us came to know and respect.

    These new owners came in, chased all of his former regulars off through threat and intimidation, and now they want to play nice and are toning down their anger toward folks like me who are calling them out.

    Above, those who own and run this blog now stated I have an agenda. They are correct. No argument there. What is my agenda, TRUTH!!! Looking out for my neighbor, my family and my friends. GUILTY AS CHARGED!

    Much to your chagrin, I have no other agenda. YOU on the other hand do. You purchased the blogsite and the brand and continue to hide and pretend it’s CW making these posts. You’re a moron if you really believe those of us who built this website are buying. Honestly. Because we’re not. We’ve speculated for months now and today’s post speaks volumes.

    NEVER, EVER, EVER, WOULD CW EVER POST SUCH CRAP PROPAGANDA. Understand, you boobs, that there is no interview. There never was an interview. It was all disinformation to lead these good souls astray! Shame on you new owners. Don’t be taking the very posters who made the CW site number one as fools. We are not. And I will nail you, promise, everytime you do. I’m watching you. Everyday. And whatever the new owners game is I will out. Promise.

  128. Helen,

    I choose to ignore you as you are a fanatic. I had a miserable time debating with you a week or two ago. Somebody has brainwashed you, either that or you have completely come unhinged and lost the plot. Pick your poison. It’s one or the other.

    I suppose that you think that all of the low brow protestors in London and Paris and the like are all Mossad agents sent over there to make life unpleasant for everybody else?

  129. Helen | September 20, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    Paxson, it is obvious to me, at least, that you are tag teaming with FS now. Good for you. Hope they are paying you well.
    ____________________________________________________-
    Helen, you need to honestly get a grip on yourself. I’m not tag teaming with anybody. I don’t usually confront people, but every now and then somebody just rubs me so far the wrong way that I have to call them out. You rub me the wrong way and everything that you seem to stand for appears to be complete rubbish. I don’t know you, so I won’t say that I don’t like you, but you have a real agenda. That agenda is to aid and abet our enemies. You play the role well. As long as we all know that we can carry on, but your disinformation about blaming the Jewish people for everything is very telling. No I am not a Jew. I am a Catholic as I have stated previously. You don’t pass the smell test.

  130. 6:58 pm —
    “… picture of the fly on Zero’s face …”
    ========

  131. lol Paxson, she probably does think that.

  132. Do Democrats Have Votes to Pass DREAM Act?

  133. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Helen –

    Pray tell. Are you or one or more loved ones very near to you (husband, for instance) Arab? Muslim? Do you attend Mosque regularly?

  134. Helen 8:52 PM
    You say, “Now, allow me to add this, I do not care who owns CW’s winning site. What I do care about is using his good name aka his brand to further your hateful propaganda toward anyone who does not support your hateful position toward the Arab, Muslim community.”
    **************************************
    Why in the world would you expect any of us to know if CW “sold his site”? You are so bloomin’ sure of yourself. It’s crazy talk – the same Helen that was dead sure that Citizen Carlyle was a woman, when anyone who had read much of his posts knew otherwise.
    Somehow you are going off into left field and your strong difference in opinion concerning the Muslim vs. Zionist issue is leading you there. You have an absolute right to your analysis and we do, too; so why do you hang around here if it is so upsetting to you? No one has heckled you that I can see. You seem to be heckling yourself.

  135. I’m sick of these useful idiots too, Paxson. Helen prolly thinks we’re both mossad agents tag teaming her, lol.

  136. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    I think maybe Helen’s grand purpose in life is to make ME look better. Some of you like to pick on me from time to time over things you disagree with. Compared to Helen’s posts, mine are centrist, moderate, brilliant, sane, and wise. Thanks Helen.

  137. LMAO CC!

  138. indymac | September 20, 2010 at 9:48 pm |
    I’m sick of these useful idiots too, Paxson. Helen prolly thinks we’re both mossad agents tag teaming her, lol.
    _________________________________________________
    Something has gotten to her brain. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not 100% pro-Israeli on every action that they take. But her world view is crazy.

    I almost believe that she is being held captive in some cave in Afghanistan with a gun to her head, being deprived of food and water and some crazy Taliban freak is telling her what to blog against the Zionist infidels on the Citizen Wells site. Remember those old cold war skits were they would show somebody reading the news in the U.S.S.R. and just off camera a gun was being held to the person’s head?

  139. Paxson | September 20, 2010 at 9:46 pm |

    Helen, you need to honestly get a grip on yourself. I’m not tag teaming with anybody. I don’t usually confront people, but every now and then somebody just rubs me so far the wrong way that I have to call them out. You rub me the wrong way and everything that you seem to stand for appears to be complete rubbish. I don’t know you, so I won’t say that I don’t like you, but you have a real agenda. That agenda is to aid and abet our enemies. You play the role well. As long as we all know that we can carry on, but your disinformation about blaming the Jewish people for everything is very telling. No I am not a Jew. I am a Catholic as I have stated previously. You don’t pass the smell test.
    =================================================

    U nailed Helen. I suspect that Helen and one or two of the other obots who post here are LUNATIC muslims. Helen just got too upset by this thread to be a normal person and her hatred of Jews is just beyond the pale.

  140. At any rate, I’m not going to let myself go down this road again with Helen. The ending will be just like the beginning and I don’t care to bang my head against the wall all night just for the good feeling that I get when I stop.

    Good night all.

  141. JJ
    I have read Atlas Shrugged thre times and just about every thing Ayn Rand wrote. I used to go to the Nathanial Branden lectures about objectivism. Ayn Rand was absolutely prophetic.

  142. Paxson | September 20, 2010 at 9:54 pm |
    indymac | September 20, 2010 at 9:48 pm |
    I’m sick of these useful idiots too, Paxson. Helen prolly thinks we’re both mossad agents tag teaming her, lol.
    _________________________________________________
    Something has gotten to her brain. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not 100% pro-Israeli on every action that they take. But her world view is crazy.

    I almost believe that she is being held captive in some cave in Afghanistan with a gun to her head, being deprived of food and water and some crazy Taliban freak is telling her what to blog against the Zionist infidels on the Citizen Wells site.
    ===================================

    ROFLMAO!

    U guys are too funny!

  143. indymac | September 20, 2010 at 9:48 pm |
    I’m sick of these useful idiots too, Paxson. Helen prolly thinks we’re both mossad agents tag teaming her, lol.
    ********************************
    In her mind then there are a bunch of us mossad agents out here! (sick)
    Somehow a real nerve has been struck and this fantasy is to the point of impairing her ability to balance different viewpoints.

  144. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    usapatriots-shout | September 20, 2010 at 10:00 pm |

    ====================================

    Ayn Rand is a goddess. She was the first, and it seems like the only, literary person to “get it”. And she “got it” with prophetic vengeance! Would that our universities and humanities departments were filled with people like her.

  145. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Alright you guys. It is still early in my part of the country. You all retire. I will wrestle with Helen for you. I enjoy it. It keeps the fangs sharp. But even better – I have this fantasy that she is young and vital and screaming hot and sexy and that this is like a mud wrestle! He HAWWW!

  146. Let me say this again, this site is no longer owned and managed by our very long time friend, CW.

    If you live in a cave or your head is swallowed up by a pillow, then you will never see how you are being played by the new owners of this site.

    9/11/2010 was a day of rememberance for the thousands of lives lost not only in the towers falling, but in the two wars we American’s sent our children to fight. 58,000 young men and women haved died for this false war. Millions of Iraqi’s have perished too – this number includes innocent moms, dads, and their children.

    We, American’s, are guilty of abominable war crimes, some worse than what Hitler did to his enemies.

    I honestly don’t know how you folks continue your fight to not see the TRUTH. I really don’t. All one needs to do is visit AE911Truth to learn who the real perpetrator’s were and read the PNAC document espousing The New American Century. But you refuse to do this. Why? What are you afraid of?

    We Democrat’s had to embrace a truth in 2008 and many of us did. Since then all we’ve tried to do is invite you to go beyond your comfort zones, just like we did, and learn the real truth. If you did, then trust me, none of you and I mean none of you, would have honored this propaganda post made by the new owners of CWs today. None of you.

    Paxson – I’ve never debated you, but apparently you think I have…know that I must have simply ignored your naive posts thus I never responded. Nothing personal, but I don’t debate the uninformed. Only those who are seeking the truth.

    Honestly, I feel pity for many of you. How you can honestly believe the propaganda this site is becoming is beyond my ability to understand. Yet, many of you, who have been on a path seeking the truth fall right into line and say, yeah, yeah…bad people. Ooooh scary. Please bother yourselves to learn. Get the hell away from this site that you spend your entire day on and seek out those formerly in the military, former journalists who left the msm b/c they were disgusted by not being able to report the truth, and those who are simply trying to educate anyone and everyone who dares to listen.

    I’m not your enemy, the liars are. And the people who bought out CW are being sneaky and not telling you who they are. Why don’t you question that for a change. It’d be kind of refreshing.

  147. GOP Plans ObamaCare Repeal

    Rep. Joe Barton of Texas lays out the strategy for a possible Republican majority in the House. Also, a plan to save the incandescent light bulb.
    http://tinyurl.com/27ceomd

  148. ms. helga | September 20, 2010 at 6:12 pm |
    Don’t kid yourself…there was a device in his ear

    Your question??HELL NO!!
    THERE CAN BE NO FORGIVENESS FOR DELIBERATELY DESTROYING A COUNTRY…HE IS EVIL.

    bob strauss | September 20, 2010 at 9:18 pm
    Good question..if you find , please share?

    Paxson says:
    Most of us don’t really care about what happens to him when the lie is exposed……..
    Not so damn fast… the Lord said, “Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them….then I will make you into a great nation.”
    Even God knows when being merciful is wrong !!

    TruthSeeker | September 20, 2010 at 6:58 pm |
    I have delved into the scientific and wondered…can he be a lab creation?

    Helen | September 20, 2010 at 9:24 pm |
    Thanks…I listened at church yesterday..such ignorance…and today, my good neighbor.
    I get quiet among the ignorant statements..

  149. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    More SICK SICK SICK

    Creeping G A R B A G E ! ! !

    See what happens when you sleep and don’t pay attention.
    Does the MSM tell you all you need to know about this so
    you can have a proper dialog and input to your congressmen?

    The “stuff” is coming fast and furious. Faster than we can
    monitor it, let along control it.

    From Connie Hair at HumanEvents:

    At the House Energy and Commerce Health Subcommittee hearing last Thursday, Democrats passed a bill to require federal health officials to question anyone seeking healthcare in community health centers about their sexual orientation and “gender identity.” The new law would include asking school children in their in-school health clinics if they’re gay, lesbian, bisexual or if they know their “gender identity.”

  150. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 20, 2010 at 10:09 pm |
    “Alright you guys. It is still early in my part of the country. You all retire. I will wrestle with Helen for you.”
    *********************************
    LOL!! You’ve got the ability to do it, too, CC. I will probably be lurking around (like a mossad agent) to referee if necessary. (wink)

  151. Pay attention.

    The posters who do not agree with me and my take on the world are demeaning, mean and downright uncivil, yet you chat with these people day in and day out. You think they are your friends and buds. They are not.

    Their only goal is to innoculate you and to turn you into a hater. Why on earth would so many of you good souls buy into their diversion tactics and dismissiveness of a simple question – who owns this blog now? Do you not see their diversionary tactics – beat up the messenger to distract from the question at hand. Demean the messenger so no one dares to hold the new owner’s of CWs accountable for not telling you, CW’s faithful posters the truth?

    Do you see it? Do you get it? This is how it works. And I’m the prime example of it tonight. Ask me if I care, b/c I don’t. The truth will always override lies.

    And there is not the first thing I hate, loathe or disrespect about an individual who practices Judaism. Nothing. So don’t be putting words in my mouth.

    What I do loathe is the Zionist POLITICAL PARTY that runs Israel. Nuff said. Don’t be an idiot and confuse the two.

  152. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Helen | September 20, 2010 at 10:11 pm |

    All one needs to do is visit AE911Truth

    ================================

    It’s not that we don’t go to websites like this. But it’s like a pig sty. Most of us have sufficient discernment and critical ability to detect the smell and slime BEFORE we wade very far in – let alone get swallowed up in the muck. It really is that simple.

    Doesn’t pass the smell test – RUN RUN RUN.

  153. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Helen | September 20, 2010 at 10:27 pm |

    What I do loathe is the Zionist POLITICAL PARTY that runs Israel. Nuff said. Don’t be an idiot and confuse the two.

    ====================================

    If you have not read my insightful essay on the Last Stand of the n-gger haters in Alabama, that I posted a day or two ago, you really should. Then take a deep breath, and then come back here and let’s have an intelligent conversation.

  154. Now, watch closely, someone who bought the site will chime in under CitizenWells user name and pretend it’s him.

    Many of us know better, so don’t waste your or our time, we know CW is no longer the owner of this site.

  155. And CC, you are putty in my hands…

  156. Helen – 10:11 PM
    You say, “58,000 young men and women haved died for this false war. Millions of Iraqi’s have perished too – this number includes innocent moms, dads, and their children.”
    **********************************
    Where are you getting the 58,000 figure from? Are you including the lives of the Iraqis and Afghans? ONE of our servicemen would be one too many, but the total as of a couple of days ago was about 5,700. 5,700 too many, but a far cry from 58,000.
    Then you say:
    “We, American’s, are guilty of abominable war crimes, some worse than what Hitler did to his enemies.”

    With a statement like that you are sending the minds of many here into outer space. Helen, you can’t be real, can you? Now I really am beginning to think the unthinkable – You are either an agent of Islam or you are so duped that you are doing their work either on purpose or unwittingly.
    What you are saying, in effect, is that we PURPOSELY slaughtered innocents. THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE TO EVERY MAN AND WOMAN IN OUR MILITARY, and it is a shameful statement.

  157. CW,
    Thank you for moderating this blog. I am deeply shamed by those who have insulted you for your attempts to provide a free and unhindered place to post and exchange. You have answered me many times in the past, and you have never ‘moderated’ my comments away. While others do not grasp the importance of the ‘exchange’ of ideas and free thoughts, I surely get the importance of the blog. The founding fathers, including Jefferson, would have been advocates of your blog and free thinking, based upon my limited understanding of history.
    Pete

  158. CC – our young men and women are NEVER TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE

  159. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Since I have a few minutes before dinner, let me add to and clarify a previous post. Perhaps it will help Helen as well.

    I do not hate Muslims. I fear them but I do not hate them. What I do hate is their founder – one of the most absolutely evil and degenerate humans ever. Their “book” is the most vile and absurd “religious text” ever created. It is so vile that it even makes the short list of vile books by secular standards.

    So, I do not heap scorn upon any person or any Muslim. Listen carefully. THEY HEAP SCORN UPON THEMSELVES if they read this book or worship this leader or this false god.

    Whether or not some Israelis do vile things behind the scenes is irrelevant. Americans (especially the likes of various alphabet agencies) also do questionable things behind the scenes. It is next to impossible for us mere mortals to judge such things because we do not have the information to know if such acts are necessary or not. But we do know that the Israelis and the United States share the common Judeo-Christian tradition. Our morals and ethics are the same. Our gods and our cultures are the same.

    Muslims – in their doctrines and every day activities – and on the surface and in public – you can read it yourself – it is not a secret – have a FUNDAMENTAL directive to destroy the West. Our morals and ethics are diametrically different. Our gods and our cultures are not just different, but existentially AT ODDS with each other.

    Do you know what goes on in a Mosque? That combination of church, community center, cultural preservation center, and military headquarters? Do you?

    I really fail to see how this is hard to grasp. There are no false facts and no “hatred of whole peoples” involved.

    Finally, you need to really ask this question. When they have swarmed a street and thrown down their prayer rugs and are as being annoying as they can possible be – what do you think they are praying? “Dear God, please bless mommy and daddy and may all people learn to love each other”?

  160. Helen – 10:33 PM
    “Many of us know better, so don’t waste your or our time, we know CW is no longer the owner of this site.”
    ***************************
    Since you’ve made repeated statements like this and you say “we know”, then please tell us HOW you know!! What is the basis for this strong assertion?
    As the old saying goes, “Put up or shut up.”

  161. Islam’s tentacles enveloping U.S.
    ‘Every time we allow a mosque to go up, it’s like planting IED’http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=204613

  162. CC – our young men and women are NEVER TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE for what their CIC led them to believe.

    HELL NO, I do not hold ANY of our military men and women responsible, but you better believe I hold Dubya, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Liebowitz and the entire CONGRESS who voted for unending WARS responsible. Get a grip on yourself. And don’t go putting words in my mouth.

    I’M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DEBATE YOU CC; I’m just not willing to debate a kool-aid drinker. Not my thing or style.

    And nothing about the 1,300 Architects and Engineers work is crappola. They have gone to the greatest of lengths to demonstrate the science and facts behind what really happened in 2001. And I don’t know about you, CC, but the death of 3k American’s blamed on a guy that was on dialysis at a hospital in Pakistan seems a bit too much for me to believe. Add this factoid to this, six out of the supposed 18 hijackers are still alive. Now, how does that happen? You tell me Mr. KNOW IT ALL.

  163. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Helen | September 20, 2010 at 10:45 pm |

    CC – our young men and women are NEVER TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE

    ========================================

    What are you talking about? That one went right over my head.

  164. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Helen – 10:11 PM

    “We, American’s, are guilty of abominable war crimes, some worse than what Hitler did to his enemies.”

    ========================================

    War is a nasty business. Some say ALL war is a crime!

    By the twisted logic of some of the provisions in the Geneva Conventions (that great body of fiction that pretends that war is a game – complete with rules and referrees!) EVERYBODY, including Americans commit “war crimes” – quite regularly. What is your point?

    The war fighting in the last 8-years or so have been the tamest cleanest wars every fought. We are ridiculously citizen-casualty-adverse — even to the point of having totally bizarre and unsafe ROEs.

    Again, what is your point?

  165. JJ, Bob S, here’s BS/BO’s response to the tired lady……

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/09/20/obama_responds_to_exhausted_woman.html

    I couldn’t even listen to the whole 4 minutes. he makes me so sick. I don’t think the question was unexpected, he took the opportunity tell about all the great things he has done.

  166. Yikes
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2593182/posts
    Aunt Zeituni: ‘The System Took Advantage Of Me’ (Crazy Auntie Obama)
    WBZTV ^
    Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 11:05:58 PM by chuckee
    BOSTON (WBZ)
    “If I come as an immigrant, you have the obligation to make me a citizen.” Those are the words from 58-year-old Zeituni Onyango of Kenya in a recent exclusive interview with WBZ-TV.
    Onyango is the aunt of President Barack Obama. She has been living in the United States illegally for years, receiving public assistance in Boston.
    Aunt Zeituni, as she has come to be known, first surfaced in the public light in 2008, in the final days of the Presidential election. Then-candidate Obama said that he was not against the possible deportation of his aunt. “If she has violated laws, then those laws have to be obeyed,” he told CBS’s Katie Couric. “We are a nation of laws.”
    Onyango had violated the law, and she knew it.
    “I knew I had overstayed” she told WBZ-TV’s Jonathan Elias when the two sat down one-on-one.
    Zeituni Onyango said she came to the United States in 2000 and had every intention of leaving. Then, however, she says she got deathly ill and was hospitalized. When she recovered, she said she was broke and couldn’t afford to leave.
    For two years Onyango said she lived in a homeless shelter, before she was moved into public housing. “I didn’t take advantage of the system. The system took advantage of me.”
    “I didn’t ask for it; they gave it to me. Ask your system. I didn’t create it or vote for it. Go and ask your system,” she said unapologetically.
    And she’s right. The system provided her assistance despite her status as an illegal immigrant.
    In 2004 a judge ordered Zeituni Onyango out of the country, but she never left. She stayed, hiding in plain site. In 2005 she attended her nephew’s swearing in as the junior Senator of Illinois. In 2008 she traveled to D.C. for President Obama’s inauguration.
    Onyango hired a top immigration lawyer from Cleveland to help fight her case. We asked how she afforded that lawyer, when she claimed poverty.
    “When you believe in Jesus Christ and almighty God, my help comes from heaven,” she responded.
    When asked about cutting in line ahead of those who have paid into the system she answered plainly, “I don’t mind. You can take that house. I will be on the street with the homeless.”
    In May 2010, Onyango’s case went back before the same judge who ordered her out of the country in 2004. This time she was granted asylum in the United States. The ruling said a return to Kenya might put Onyango in danger.
    So she is now here legally, still living on public assistance and hoping that the spotlight on her will dim

  167. Cabby – let’s see, CW was the kind of poster who could have cared less about the visuals on his front page for years…so today, we have a nice clean red, blue and black CW logo. Then we have a new tag line under CW’s logo. Let’s add to that how clean his posts are now and how they sound exactly like FS. CW was sloppy which is what we all loved about him. He could have cared less whether his site was neat and tidy or his posts were tight. All CW cared about was communicating his truth, which is what drove so many of us to his site two and three years ago. His passion laid in the bedrock of truth. Nothing more and nothing less.

    Today’s post with a propaganda piece would never have passed CWs muster. Never. Click on the piece and wait until the end. You can click on all seven silohette’s below and none of them are part 2, 3 or 4 etc to the interview. You know why? B/c there never was an interview!

    CW, being an old hand at this game would have seen right through this and never posted it. Never.

    How’s that. Plus, friend FS posts the same chit day in and day out. I own a blog and if a blogger did that on my site I’d block them after awhile. But FS has had free reign and booted off a community of bloggers he knew would never, in a million years, believe CW was still managing this blog after FS and SS took over.

    Have you ever bothered to ask yourself why 30 to 40 regular bloggers left this site? These were bloggers who knew CW. They’d write him and have daily contact with him. Look downstairs and see where Larry was begging for CW to contact him. Larry would never do this unless he was being ignored, which he has been by the new owners.

  168. http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20109121073&template=printart

    Scientists can only surmise that huge amounts of the seaweed and the animals within it died and sank. But while the acute damage may be over with the capping

    of the well, the chronic problem of tar balls will remain indefinitely.

    Though less toxic than fresh crude, tiny tar balls can kill sensitive animals, such as young sea turtles, or cause illness in larger creatures. The cancer-causing hydrocarbons in tar balls also can work their way up the food chain into fish that land on dinner plates at home, such as tuna, mahi mahi and wahoo.

  169. All i know is regular bloggers will continue to leave this site as long as the likes of helen/prairie continue to pollute it with 911 truther (the joooz did it!) CRAP. But I guess that’s the intent.

  170. Obama bans nearly 1 million rifles – watch the video and sign the petition.
    http://nagr.org/M1garand.aspx?pid=2

  171. indymac | September 20, 2010 at 11:14 pm |
    All i know is regular bloggers will continue to leave this site as long as the likes of helen/prairie continue to pollute it with 911 truther (the joooz did it!) CRAP. But I guess that’s the intent.

    ========================================

    Yes that is exactly the obot’s intent, to disrupt all intelligent discussion with bo’s muslim BS.

  172. Helen, you may have a point about CW…or he’s indisposed…my email hasn’t been removed yet.

    I wish someone would get CW to remove my email from

    JJ | September 18, 2010 at 4:38 pm |

    on this thread:

    November 2, 2010, Buh bye congress, Vote jackasses out, Video, Citizen Wells open thread, September 18, 2010

  173. Today they said the Recession ended in June 2009. That means that Obama had nothing to do with ending it. He was only sworn in a few months before. His first budget didn’t begin until Oct. 09 and they had barely begun to spend the so called stimulus. So that means that it was Bush’s efforts that actually ended the recession and everything Obama has done has been a waste and has actually made things worse.

    It’s Obama’s fault.

  174. oh get over yourself, FS and indymac, go back to your conservative echo chamber. your two cents isn’t wanted or needed.

    Cabby – allow me to add, CW never used tags. Do you know why? b/c he knew he’d get more hits by putting the tags in the header. The guy was smart. He also said good morning, everyday, to Zach. Everyday. Never missed a beat. You’d know all of this if you’d been posting here for the last two or three years like so many did. I’m sorry you didn’t know the community then. It was vibrant, full of life and yeah, debate. And yeah, we had our share of arguer’s but rarely did it become personal. And yeah, we had a blogger or two that dominated the blog but we simply learned to go past them and continue to the conversation. For the most part it was civil. Yes, some were taken to the dry cleaner, but those times were rare.

    CC – ya see, once again, your post starts off with a negative – my twisted logic. I’ll tell you what. When you decide to be a man and to hold an honest and forthright conversation with me, a woman, then c’mon over to my site and let’s go head to head. The smell test and discernment you use is bunk. I could give a rip about your resume. You know why? B/c anyone who remains in anonymity can make up anything they wish about themselves. Me, on the other hand, I have the courage to be an open boook – my entire resume, name and opinions are at my site. When you have the cahoonas to walk your talk then c’mon out. I relish in the idea of taking that super ego of yours and bringing it down a noche or two.

    My passion is simple. 911 changed my life dramatically. Why? B/c my government said it had too in order for all to be safe. Bulltwinkie! Like many hear, I bought the official 911 line from Dubya up until last year. No one can watch Building 7 falling in free form in its own footprint at 5:20 something in the afternoon, when there was no reason for it to be demolished. NONE. No plane. A couple of floors w/fires but they were all out by 5ish pm that afternoon. Why did Silverstein, the owner of the entire complex, give the instruction to the NYFD to “pull it”. His words not mine.

    So, like I said, CC, show some respect and tell me who you are and let’s go head to head at my blog. I’m more than happy to take you on. Anytime.

  175. one more thing, Cabby, CW never abandoned those he believed in. So why was Larry’s plea ignored. Moreover, he helped FS when none of us knew him and contributed to a fund to get him released. The only reason we did this was b/c we took CW at his word. We trusted him.

    Today, not so much.

  176. Helen, for one to open their minds to the capability and plausibility of the involvement of Israeli Mossad and the U.S. govt, elitists, and ‘underworld’, one must admit the vulnerabilty of an entire population to distrust and deceitful actions—it’ll never happen.

  177. JJ | September 20, 2010 at 11:39 pm |
    Helen, you may have a point about CW…or he’s indisposed…my email hasn’t been removed yet.
    *******************************
    JJ, many moons ago I had posted an e-mail that I found out to be wrongly attributed to an author and asked CW to to remove it. He did not, so the fact that he hasn’t responded to your request wouldn’t be conclusive, imo.

  178. Obama’s Auntie still living in Poverty while he is campaigning telling everyone that he is a Millionaire. Didn’t he write in his book about how much he Loved his Auntie? If He has that much Love for her, just think how much love he has for people that are NOT part of his family.

  179. Helen 11:47 PM
    “The guy was smart. He also said good morning, everyday, to Zach. Everyday. Never missed a beat”
    **************************
    Not too long ago he “missed a beat” because he later explained that he had been away. Zach still says “good morning”. Some of your points may be valid, but you have a very vivid imagination, and I’m not really sure you come to accurate conclusions. You have “missed the boat” before. When CW started the separate News site, was that CW or someone else?

  180. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Helen | September 20, 2010 at 11:47 pm |

    =================================

    1. You did not answer my question about your personal connections to Arabs and Muslims. I know lots of anti-Semites and many that I would be kinder and just say they are very suspicious of what the Jews/Israelis are upto – worldwide. But I have NEVER met or heard anyone with as much white-hot Jew Hatred as you. With several exceptions. What Muslims say in their Mosques when they think no one is listening, what their “good book” says, and Ah-mayonaise-nutjob. I would say that is not any sort of company I would take comfort in being aligned with.

    2. My credentials do not matter. I do not argue this topic with my credentials. For someone who is a “over the edge”, just simple high-school logic is sufficient. I would dare say that anyone who posts here easily has sufficient credentials to THOROUGHLY debunk what you are saying. My post on 10:46 is all it should take. I did not pull rank or flash credentials once. Read the foundational literature for Jews. Read the foundational literature for Muslims. That is all you need to know.

    3. I will NOT debate the issue of Good Jews vs. Bad Jews. That is a ridiculous concept and a refuge of scoundrels. To find out what that means, read my recent essay on Good N-ggers and Bad N-ggers. That is totally diagnostic of your condition.

    4. Your 911 arguments are totally bogus. Even if, for the sake of argument, I agree to all your facts (although I think many are in dispute) there is a non-Israel good answer to all of them. So what if Bldg 7 fell over. That has no meaning or no bearing on anything interesting whatsoever. And it certainly says nothing about Jews.

    5. Finally what set you off today, anyway? Sometimes you come over here and post and argue and get yourself worked up to a frenzy. Not to day – you came loaded for bear from the beginning. I asked you quite a bit earlier, WTF you are talking about and you never answered. I don’t see anything unusual or odd about any of today’s postings.

  181. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Apology from Free Speech?

    Oh, on another topic – now that the well is plugged up has Free Speech ever admitted he was wrong? Or apologized to the whole blog for misleading us? Lakes of underwater oil? The GREAT DOME about to explode and swallow the whole gulf, tidal waves? Secret wells? Exploding BOPs? Matt Simmons? Any of that? A few bloggers have remarked on the Pure Hearts or other positive attributes of misguided or mistaken bloggers who, upon being proven wrong, actually apologized.

    Anyway, just wondering if Free Speech had a Pure Heart, I guess.

  182. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 21, 2010 at 12:48 am |
    You said to Helen,
    “…..5. Finally what set you off today, anyway? Sometimes you come over here and post and argue and get yourself worked up to a frenzy.”
    ****************************************
    CC, couple the above with the tirade about CW not being involved with this blog gives us the clue: It was the CW featured video concerning “Obama Muslim Plant?” that set her off big time.

  183. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Why? It has been around for quite a while. It is not new news. It is not even particularly strong evidence, just more circumstantial evidence. Even the title of the thread for the day is a question, not a statement.

    The video proves nothing. But it is one more brick in a great building of pro-muslim, pro-Saudi, suspicions about Zero. I think it has been proven about as tight as you can get without an actual court verdict that Saudis paid for Zero’s Harvard education.

    We also know that Zero is a Usurper and Infiltrator. We just don’t know exactly who he is working for. For him to be a Saudi stooge is a lot more credible than most other possibilities.

    I stand by my question – why knickers in knot?

  184. I tried to tell you Helen, these children are sooo frightened to admit our country not only kills bad Arabs, but the innocent children, women, and elderly, any unarmed or willing to fight.
    You are wasting your breath.

    The death of 3k American’s blamed on a guy that was on dialysis at a hospital in Pakistan seems a bit too much for me to believe.

    Touche!! And that information was made public by one of our famous journalists/news anchors.

    Helen, if you were a Mossad agent as suggested, why in the name of God would you be wasting time here of all places with, what 10 posters??; and also, why would a Mossad agent be implying that Israeli Mossad agents were behind 9/11 with the evil Bushes/Cheneys/Rumsfelds when it would be in your best interest to plant a theory that Arabs and the guy in the cave did it??

    Thanks Tennbrock..
    it’s hard for me to even see his face—haven’t watched news since his theft of the (s)election.

    Helen says:
    Have you ever bothered to ask yourself why 30 to 40 regular bloggers left this site?(true) These were bloggers who knew CW.(true) They’d write him and have daily contact with him(true). Look downstairs and see where Larry was begging for CW to contact him( very true!!!). Larry would never do this unless he was being ignored, which he has been by the new owners.

    indymac | September 20, 2010 at 11:14 pm |
    Try to keep up—the Israeli Mossad, not Jews, did it. Israeli Mossad is controlled by Zionist Jews–not Jews.
    If I’m wrong, Helen will correct me.
    I did spend weeks on 9/11 inconsistencies—I could debate facts, but why, when 1270 architects world-wide- more brilliant and knowledgable on physics than you or I- with a TOTAL of 25,000 YEARS experience for 9/11 truth challenge congress and the entire world to re-open the investigation.

    Amazing, the intelligent ‘experts’ want to blow me and Helen off, but haven’t been brave enough to venture into the intellectual minds of 1270 architects…afraid, guys??
    Get out of your comfort zones and go for it—right Helen?
    And I am anti-Islamic/Muslim, for those building Mosques anywhere near America. So, see, Helen isn’t fond of me either.
    It’s not about racism for me, Islamophobia, when discussing 9/11, it’s about facts, and a hell of a lot of common sense.
    Jews or Zionist Jews….Muslims or Islamic Muslims….I’m still learning.

    Helen says:
    No one can watch Building 7 falling in free form in its own footprint at 5:20 something in the afternoon, when there was no reason for it to be demolished.

    I was ready to close, but can’t now—Helen, you left out the most important facts…May I?
    1)Twin Towers Complex was due for a renovation costing millions due to condemned insulation…and
    2)Silverstein received twice the insurance pay-outs because two planes(remote-controlled)hit his towers…and
    3)billions in gold bars just disappeared—just disappeared…and
    4)building 7 contained offices of SEC, FBI, and Dept of Defense(who couldn’t account for over 2.3 trillion in missing funds)
    5)Silverstein hadn’t missed breakfast for 3 MONTHS at the towers—he stayed away 9/11!!!

    NOW, I’M FINISHED!!!!

    COMMON SENSE, BOYS AND GIRLS—DON’T DEBATE UNLESS YOU WANT THE TRUTH—I SPENT WEEKS ON THIS!!!

  185. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 21, 2010 at 1:10 am |
    “Why? It has been around for quite a while. It is not new news. It is not even particularly strong evidence, just more circumstantial evidence. Even the title of the thread for the day is a question, not a statement.”
    ****************************************
    Yes, but a particular nerve was struck. Maybe it shatters her opinion of CW?
    I agree, it is NOT new news and it was in the form of a question – Not at all a dogmatic statement.

  186. JJ | September 21, 2010 at 1:12 am |
    You say,
    “….Helen, if you were a Mossad agent as suggested, why in the name of God would you be wasting time here of all places with, what 10 posters??; and also, why would a Mossad agent be implying that Israeli Mossad agents were behind 9/11”
    ********************************
    You need to check the prior posts again. Nobody accused Helen of being a Mossad agent, but rather an agent for Islam. It would be good to get your facts straight.

    Then you respond to indymac:
    “indymac | September 20, 2010 at 11:14 pm |
    Try to keep up—the Israeli Mossad, not Jews, did it. Israeli Mossad is controlled by Zionist Jews–not Jews.”
    *************************************
    The Israeli Mossad ARE Jews. This trying to make a distinction between Zionists and Jews is a red herring. I am not saying that everything done by the Israelis is correct, but trying to evade being an anti-semite by focusing on the Zionists is bogus – entirely without any firm footing.

  187. JJ 1:12 AM
    “COMMON SENSE, BOYS AND GIRLS—DON’T DEBATE UNLESS YOU WANT THE TRUTH—I SPENT WEEKS ON THIS!!!”
    *****************************
    Well, you could spend a lifetime on it and still be wrong. It is not the LENGTH of time, it is the source of your “instruction” that counts and your ability to do critical thinking. I’ve come to the conclusion that some folks decide on what they believe to be true simply because that “truth” fits into their own preconceived notions. In other words, it is easier to believe that it was all an inside job than to accept that there is an enemy out there committed to destroying America. Go ahead with your fantasies if they make you satisfied.

  188. Helen, who with Silverstein would want records (bldg 7) destroyed??
    It contained offices of the FBI,
    Dept. of Defense,
    IRS(tax fraud of Enron),
    US Secret Service( all case records stored), SEC (with more stock fraud records and 3,000 to 4,000 files destroyed),
    Citibank’s Salomon Smith Barney, the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management,
    Citi-Group records( back-up tapes of corporate emails were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack).
    CAN YOU HEAR US NOW?

  189. wow, oh wow…. Helen has been on the warpath again!!!
    Once again we see a whole lot of absurd ranting and raving from someone who seems to be off the planet.

    Here are my observations:

    1. Helen is a follower of Ron Paul…. probably not… but she does have that same anti-Semitic ranting that is evident amongst some Ron Paul followers.

    2. Helen is a follower of LaRouche… I think this is probably correct. The LaRouchies tend to be a touch more crazy than the Paulites and that sums up most of Helen’s rants.

    Now for the obsession about who posted the video which seems to have set Helen off into a rant of madness:

    I see nothing that shows that someone other than CW has taken possession of the site. If Helen had been a daily reader, then she would have known about the change that took place with the headers, because WordPress made changes to the theme. This happened several weeks ago.

    Also, I know that it is CW because he has been consistent covering many issues relating to Chicago politics.

    So whether the raving anti-Semitic Helen wants to accept the content of the video or not, the fact is that it throws some light on the very thorny subject of the truth about Øbama. The fact is that he does have many Arab connections. The fact is that all of us, including little ol me in Australia should be very afraid of this man – he is evil.

    Helen either get a grip on reality or simply stop coming to this blog.

  190. btw I agree with all comments made by Paxson, CabbyAZ, FS and CC on this thread.

  191. @USA-Patriots Shouts,

    I know what you mean about abuse. I went through something too.
    Did you read Alice Miller’s “On Being Child”. This is the book where she looks at Hitler’s early life, as well as touching on the lives of others, including a young man who was a “butcher” in terms of his murders.

    The reason that I mention her book is that I found what she had to say rather fascinating. She was neither condoning nor excusing Hitler, because she understood the evil. However, she looked into the background and the abuse within the background; her real conclusion was that Hitler was playing out his early life on the world stage.

    In lots of ways, I see the same thing with Øbama, as I am of the view that he is also playing out some of his early life on the world stage.

    I do not accept the notion that Øbama was abandoned by parents. His “father” was never in the picture. The “autobiography” seems to be a work of fiction with some truth that weaves through the story. Since I accept Øbama sr as the real father, the reason that I do not accept any abandonment is due to the fact that Ann Dunham had enroled herself at Washington State for a course that started at the end of August in the year that she allegedly gave birth to her son. Øbama Sr. was still in Hawaii at the time.

    There is another explanation here but it requires Ann either going to Kenya or at least discovering that Øbama sr had a wife and child in Kenya prior to her giving birth. We have to accept that in the Luo tribe polygamy was acceptable, even though in our western society it is unacceptable. So it is not correct to call the man a bigamist as we understand the term. However, what about Ann Dunham? How did she react when she discovered the truth?

    The end result is that it was Ann who left and moved to Washington State, meaning that Øbama sr. did not abandon his son.

    The other side of this is whether it is correct to state that Ann abandoned her son when he was around 10 years old. I am going to argue the same thing. Barry had the option of remaining in Indonesia with his mother, but he chose to stay in Hawaii. Why? What happened in Indonesia? Did Lolo Soetoro bash Barry? The real story has not been told. The other reason that I do not believe that Ann abandoned him, is that it was Ann who was pushing him about being lazy with his study as he was getting older.

    On the other hand, what I see as more likely is that he was heavily influenced by the Marxism of his mother and grandparents. Ann hated America. The grandfather in particular was a strong Marxist, and it was Stanley Dunham who seemed to have the ties to Frank Marshall Davis, not grandma…. interesting. These are the same people who deliberately sent their daughter to a high school on Mercer Island in Washington state knowing that there were teachers at the school who were Marxist and were teaching Marxism.

    I would suggest that these early Marxist influences had an enormous impact upon Barry Soetoro.

  192. Thanks Pete.

  193. Aussie | September 21, 2010 at 3:58 am |

    As always I appreciate your comments, but I think your assessment of helen is much too kind. It seems clear to me that helen is a muslim LUNATIC.

  194. Pete | September 20, 2010 at 10:44 pm |

    CW,
    Thank you for moderating this blog. I am deeply shamed by those who have insulted you for your attempts to provide a free and unhindered place to post and exchange. You have answered me many times in the past, and you have never ‘moderated’ my comments away. While others do not grasp the importance of the ‘exchange’ of ideas and free thoughts, I surely get the importance of the blog. The founding fathers, including Jefferson, would have been advocates of your blog and free thinking, based upon my limited understanding of history.
    Pete
    ___________________________________________________

    I agree with you Pete.
    ms. helga

  195. http://www.houmatoday.com/article/20100919/ARTICLES/100919221/1211?Title=Illness-from-spill-unknown-still

    “I miss playing with my Paw-Paw, and I want him to get better,” Eli said while watching Clayton Matherne inhale medication through a nebulizer. “At night, when he lays down, he cannot breathe. I don’t want to go to school because I’m scared what’s going to happen to my Paw-Paw.”

    When he started working on a crewboat for Guilbeau Marine in May cleaning up the Deepwater Horizon spill site, the 35-year-old Pierre Part native said, he became gravely ill. He can no longer work, medical bills and household expenses ate up a piddling settlement, and promised help from Kenneth Feinberg’s Gulf Coast Claims Facility has yet to materialize.

  196. MORE MASSIVE FISH KILLS ON ATLANTIC COAST

  197. http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/09/20/fish-kill-washes-thousands-dead-fish-wildwood-jersey-beaches-5419/

    The Feds and the corporate media entirely ignored the reports of hundreds of tar balls in New Jersey and New York and categorically blamed the massive widespread fish kills low oxygen levels.

    Deja Vu as thousands more dead fish wash up on Wildwood New Jersey beaches once again on September 20th.

    As with every other fish kill from Louisiana to Massachusetts the Feds once again have blamed the fish kill on low levels of oxygen.

    The only problem with the explanation this time around is that it has not been hot enough in NJ to cause the so called oxygen depletion so they need to come up with a better explanation this time.

  198. tennbrock | September 20, 2010 at 11:01 pm |

    JJ, Bob S, here’s BS/BO’s response to the tired lady……

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/09/20/obama_responds_to_exhausted_woman.html

    I couldn’t even listen to the whole 4 minutes. he makes me so sick. I don’t think the question was unexpected, he took the opportunity tell about all the great things he has done.
    *********************************************
    I listened for 30 seconds, Obama stuttered 50 times, had to turn it off.

  199. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    JJ | September 21, 2010 at 1:12 am |

    Amazing, the intelligent ‘experts’ want to blow me and Helen off, but haven’t been brave enough to venture into the intellectual minds of 1270 architects…afraid, guys??

    =======================================

    I keep trying to tell you but you won’t listen. Even if just for the sake of argument I totally accept what these architects say – what does that have to do with Jews/Zionists? All it proves is that there is more to the story than we have been told. How you make this GIANT non-logical leap to Jews/Zionists is what makes most people here think you are lunatics.

    You keep harping on all these anomalies regarding 9/11. WE TOTALLY GET THAT. Please don’t bring it up again. Only somebody pre-disposed to HATE JEWS would LEAP to the conclusions you have. THAT is the problem, not that we are stupid or unaware.

  200. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    DON’T DEBATE UNLESS YOU WANT THE TRUTH—I SPENT WEEKS ON THIS!!!

    ====================================

    Spending “weeks” on learning from a flaming idiot(s) does not qualify you as having any sense. It just means you have in all likelyhood been dragged down to their level.

    And besides, that is an incredibly bizarre argument. Personally, I spent “weeks” plus one day. Does that automatically make me the winner?

    Or if you need another example – a young Arab may spend YEARS in a Madrasa learning how evil the Jews are. Does that make him either smart or right?

    5 SECONDS of common sense trumps DECADES of B.S.

  201. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Fortunately the Jew Haters are in a teeny tiny minority and their only confederates are Arabs and crackpots. They keep throwing down the gauntlet and challenging to debates.

    If I might describe what they propose as a graceful aerial “dog fight” than I laugh in their face. Their airplane is so loaded with baggage – nay, garbage – that it cannot even get off the ground.

    I poke at them from time to time to keep my fangs sharp – but I would not even consider any kind of serious debate or discussion until they at least jettisoned the following baggage/garbage.

    1. Good Jews and Bad Jews (AKA Good n-gger and Bad n-gger as a way to weasel out of ‘racism’)

    2. Palestinians are good/victim/peaceful and Jews are bad/oppressor/belligerent.

    3. Any Arab having any legitimate claim whatsoever to any land or buildings or sites in the Holy Land (roughly between Syria and Egypt north and south, and Mediterranean and Jordan east and west).

    There may be more. But with these false premises, there is no possibility of INTELLIGENT discussion and no possibility of any MEANINGFUL debate.

  202. Citizen Carlyle – Very good wrap-up!! It’s appalling at the lack of plain, common sense at times. A big question could be posed, but it lacks the incentive for any meaningful pursuit:
    Which comes first? The 911 theories or the Zionist/Jew controversy? We know that Jew haters have been around for centuries, so when certain supposedly scientific findings concerning 911 emerged did these haters take pleasure in linking up Zionist/Jews with 911? OR, was it more of the opposite?
    That is, the Jew bashers sought out (or the “scientists” themselves are Jew haters) to prove scientifically that 911 was the fault of Zionist/Jews. Who knows, and who cares? The end result is the same, isn’t it?

  203. @CC,

    your points are well understood by me, but I do believe that one thing needs to be totally clarified regarding those “innocent” Arab women and children.

    What the Jew-haters do not understand, and refused point blank to believe is that their beloved Arabs could do anything so ruthless as deliberately shield themselves behind women and children.

    It has been documented on film that the Palestinians in particular hide behind the skirts of the women and the children. They constantly thrust the children into danger. They place their rockets and artillery amongst the houses deliberately, knowing that when the retribution comes it will hurt the women and children that live in those houses.

    At times when they have holed themselves up in one of their fort mosques (a fort because that is where they store their weaponry), that they have fled the building wearing womens clothes.

    The women are also guilty because they teach their children to hate others. Children are being taught to handle weapons at a very young age and they are encouraged to throw the stones that harass the soldiers that are normally there to protect them.

  204. @CabbyAZ, my answer to your questions is along the line that they have found themselves a small number of like minded individuals, who are more than likely also Jew-haters, or at the very least suffer from an acute case of Bush Derangement Syndrome (our resident Jew-hater shows signs of having BDS) and therefore they question things from a certain viewpoint.

    Their so-called experts are anything but experts, especially with regard to why the buildings collapsed. Their “experts” regarding the Pentagon are absolutely ludicrous. What they are doing is denying the eye-witnesses in Washington D.C. who saw the plane crash into the Pentagon. There was no missile.

    Some troofers carry on a treat claiming that there were no airframe parts on the ground. Well that is also BS. I cannot remember the site, but I did find one that had the pictures of the aftermath, and the aircraft engine was visible on the site. However, these jew-hating troofers will not acknowledge reality because it does not match with their ideas that the Jews were responsible.

    Then there is the derisive nonsense that refers to Osama Bin Laden, “being on dialysis in a cave”, and that is also BS. The reason that it is BS is because at the time OBL and Al Qaeda leadership were living in Afghanistan, and they were being protected by the Taliban government at the time. OBL was NOT LIVING IN A CAVE in 2001 when the planes struck the WTC. Such derisive nonsense also disregards the length of time that this planning took.

    The Saudi Arabian “students” who were responsible for the attack were highly intelligent. At least one of them had an engineering degree and was studying in Germany. Others had slipped into the USA and they actually took flight lessons in Florida prior to their hijacking of the aircraft. It is also worth noting that they had links to the same Virginia mosque that was used by Hasan the Ft. Hood murderer. The imam at the time was Alaqui (sp) who is on the “wanted dead or alive list”. This born in America Yemeni has been pushing radical jihad inside of the USA and now on the Internet whilst he hides in Yemen.

    These people do not understand that the Al-Qaeda network is huge. In some of these countries it goes by a different name, but they are linked to Al Qaeda. For example the Indonesian Jamaat Islamiyaah (sp) is a branch of Al-Qaeda. I cannot quite remember the name of the group from Pakistan – they were responsible for the Mumbai massacre and they had links to Al-Qaeda.

    As a result there are several masterminds for these events, not just OBL. In fact I thought that KSM was a mastermind with regard to the carrying out of the WTC attack. These things cannot be denied. OBL is the leader, but it is his underlings who do all of the “footwork” including the plotting in each individual country.

    Also, I will point out that OBL and Al Qaeda have been attacking in Saudi Arabia. He wants to oust the Saudi Royal Family .

  205. Aussie 5:24 PM
    Very good, factual post. I tend to agree with you that the overwhelming, compelling anti-semitism (I mean all of it – Zionists/Jews) in certain factions is what drove them to find fellow haters among engineers, scientists, etc., whose credentials are probably not worthy. There has been for a number of years the belief that America herself has provoked the hatred the jihadists have for us.

    That is simply wrong, because the radical Islamists hate us because we resist their tyrannical belief system, and because they believe that Allah has ordered them to kill the infidels, which we are in their minds. To them America is the Great Satan and MUST be brought down. For pity sakes, they have said it over and over again. Isn’t everyone listening? How much more plain can one get? Wow! It boggles the mind.

  206. @CabbyAZ,

    I totally agree with your statements and have something extra to add 🙂

    Again, the Jew-haters will deny these truths because they are too lazy to do their own research. As I pointed out, they also suffer from BDS… they cannot help themselves, they just have to bash GWB… it is a real psychological disorder with them.

    Anyway, if they had bothered to do research they could easily find where Islamists have demanded that America surrender and bow down to Allah. There have been several statements from OBL demanding the surrender of the USA. Ahmahnutjob, the faux president in Iran (because he is only there as a result of a political coup as well as the harsh treatment of the people), has also made similar demands of the American people.

    I do understand why there are some who claim that the USA provoked the attack, BUT, I have to add that people who think that way are also the subject of constant propaganda from the LSM that constantly gives that impression. Nothing could be further from the truth!!

    I still think that there is a link between the first WTC and the OKC bombing which was rightfully blamed upon McVeigh, who did not act alone. Neither Nicols nor McVeigh had the ability to build a home made bomb, so who helped them? The answer is Hussein-al-Husseini, who had been a part of the Iraq elite guard for Saddam Hussein, and who had ties to an Iranian millionaire. It gets intriguing!!

    I also believe that there is a tie to the WTC bombing, the second attack on the WTC and OKC. The fact is that OBL was behind the first bombing of the WTC… that failed, and he was pissed. With OKC the blame was placed on McVeigh (which is true), but nobody attempted to find John Doe #2, the man identified as Hussein-al-Husseini. The fact that there were any ties to Islamist terrorism to OKC was denied would have also p’d off OBL and his minions.

    OBL is a member of a very wealthy Saudi clan, and very likely that explains the reason why he wants to get control of Saudi Arabia. Now, the thing is that the USA has been a friend to the Saudi royal family. Can you see the connection? With these American connections the Saudi royal family remains strong. It retains the power that OBL desires. When OBL masterminded the attack on the WTC it was as much about attacking the Saudi royals as it was about attacking the USA.

    OBL is one of the Islamist fundamentalists. The Taliban are also extreme fundamentalists. It seems odd here that we know that in Saudi Arabia the women can end up being beaten in the streets by the purity police, which means that Saudi Arabia is also fundamentalist, yet OBL is way more extreme.

    The USA is in the middle because there are people on the left who desire to see the USA fall. That is why they use the LSM to lie and produce this propaganda blaming the USA for such attacks. It is not until one starts to do some digging into the faction fights within Islam that we begin to see a glimmer of truth.

  207. @CabbyAz (continued)

    Islam is just as complex as Christianity when it comes to sects. However, there is one sect that stands out because of the nature of its beliefs. This is the Ahmadi sect – two of the proponents are GrandPoohbah Khamenei and Usurper President Ahmanutjob in Iran. This sect believe that the 12th imam will come out of a well and will lead the WORLD WIDE CALIPHATE.

    Ahmahnutjob believes this to the point that he has paved the road from the well that is in Iran at Qom, and he is doing everything in his power to create World War III, which is his version of Armageddon.

    What this means is that Ahmahnutjob believes that it is necessary to create chaos in the world in order to hasten the arrival of the 12th imam. To create this chaos he believes in whipping up hatred against Israel. This is why he denies the holocaust. It is also why he makes those constant threats. He is being aided and abetted by Vladmir Putin, as well as Chavez and other thugs around the world. They are assisting him to create a nuclear bomb, which he wants to use against Israel. I have no doubt that the Soviet Union want the USA and other western allies to be dragged into this situation, and to see a world war created – only this time Putin sees himself as the winner.

  208. Aussie | September 21, 2010 at 10:47 pm |
    Islam is just as complex as Christianity when it comes to sects.
    ******************************
    Yes, the very complexity and numerous factions represented in Islam are probably a blessing in disguise to the western world, in at least one way.
    They all share an intense hatred of Israel, but the diversity among the nations in the mid-east sometimes keeps them from being on the same page. For example, I heard that Saudi Arabia has given tacit permission for Israel to use her airspace in the event that it is needed to carry out some action against Iran. Interesting indeed.

    Also, the 12th imam belief by the little Iranian weasel is an absolute delusion – a crock if you will. But if we are dismissive and consider it all a big joke, we do so at our peril, methinks. He is such a nut case that one should listen to what he says, at least to a point. Crazy people do crazy things.

  209. @Cabby,

    It is a belief that is held by both Ahmanutjob and the GrandPoohbah in Iran. At present these are the two most powerful men in Iran. The GrandPoohbah helped to pull that coup last year. They had nutted it out prior to the presidential election. Their crackdown on the Iranian people was extremely harsh. My heart remains with those brave souls in Iran who seek to overthrow such evil.

    You are right, we cannot be dismissive because this is the background to the present “conflict”, and ignore this background at our own peril. It is this belief that spurs on Ahmahnutjob. On top of that he sees this Armageddon as the means of establishing the worldwide caliphate with Iran in control of the world.

    We have to view and understand the machinations of the Saudis in light of the beliefs of the GrandPoohbah and Ahmahnutjob. The Saudis maintain control over Mecca. From what I understand the Saudis are mostly Wahibbi, and I suspect that a number of them are Sunni. The Sunni and the Shia have been fighting each other ever since Islam began as a political system. Both seek to have full control over the rest of the Muslim world. When the Shia are not busy blowing up the rest of the world, they are busy blowing up Sunni and Wahibbi Muslims. Normally both of them persecute the Ahamadi sect people.

    Even in Iraq, the majority of the Iraqi deaths were caused by blowing each other up, and not by the bullets of the Allies. The people with BDS tend to not understand this fact – they will just continue to spread the lies that they have been told. Some of the worst of the atrocities over there have been in marketplaces and also in mosques that have been blown up. Always it had been Sunni vs Shia. The Shia tried to gain control of the new govt with Moqtada being their leader, but he has not been all that successful. Also in Iraq the Al Qaeda operatives have been active – in particular in the Anbon province and they were winning until the leaders of the tribes in that province decided that enough was enough. Only recently some of those leaders were murdered in Baghdad via a suicide bomber.

    This means that in Iraq you had:

    1. Sunni vs Shia – temples being blown up – one of them was the Golden Temple. Plus bombs in marketplaces that killed hundreds of people.
    2. Al Qaeda operatives, usually Saudis who went there to fight “the Americans”.
    3. Iraqis vs Kurds
    4. Islamics vs Christians (or what remains of the Chaldeans).
    5. the Baath Party members who had remained loyal to Saddam Hussein.

    There have been many players and they have caused the instability. Yet the truth remains that the Allies killed very few Iraqis since most of the deaths were due to issues relating to Sunni vs. Shia.

  210. Aussie | September 22, 2010 at 12:57 am |
    There have been many players and they have caused the instability. Yet the truth remains that the Allies killed very few Iraqis since most of the deaths were due to issues relating to Sunni vs. Shia.
    *****************************
    You’ve got a good grip on the situation and I really liked reading your thoughts. Oh, it is SO true – when it comes to the bleeding hearts who think that all of the carnage was caused by us, they overlook the important fact that there was a great deal of civil war going on in Iraq between the various factions. In fact, it was the “perfect” opportunity for some Iraqis to “even the score”, so to speak. While the evil Saddam Hussein was in power, he had kept in check much of the conflict among the various sects. Of course, he HAD to go and many Iraqis are forever grateful to the US for liberating them.

  211. @Cabby,

    and yes, what is true about Iraq is also true when it comes to the Gaza strip and the West Bank.

    Everyone is very quick to condemn Israel, yet they ignore the thousands of rockets that are fired into Israel from the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. They ignore the terror that is faced by the people of Srdot (sp) on a regular basis. They also ignore the blood libel.

    The best example of the blood libel is that which occurred near the Al Asqa mosque around the year 2000. This is where the young boy who was with his father was allegedly shot by Israeli soldiers, except that it is not true. The whole thing was a set up. The story was aired in France, and it showed the boy with his father. The raw footage of the incident shows a very different story. The boy and his father were deliberately placed in that position. The position of the Israeli soldiers meant that they could not have fired shots at them. The footage showed other people running past them. We do not even know whether Mohammed Al-Dura did in fact die of any wounds. The whole thing was a set-up and was only recently fully exposed in France. (there were several court cases involving the story, and finally the truth was revealed).

    Then there is the use of Red Cross ambulances for the carrying of weapons. On top of that they deliberately place their rockets near homes and that normally means that these homes get blasted… end result is the alleged loss of “innocent women and children”.

    However, there is more to reveal, because the higher number of deaths in the West Bank and Gaza strop is not caused by Israeli soldiers doing their job, but it is caused by Fatah and Hamas fighting each other. However, the carnage from these fights barely gets a mention in the LSM, let alone is it recognized by the Jew-haters.

  212. Aussie – In one of your posts you referred to the way the Muslim men have used women and children as shields. I am reminded of the Iraq-Iran war that lasted for so many years. It was reported then that mere children were put in the infantry to take the first bloodshed in a battle. Oh, what inhumanity!!

    Also, they often hole up in mosques where they can wage war with those without, but no one can touch them because they are on “holy ground.”
    Grrrr…….. What hypocrisy!! Likewise they use the mosques to store weapons. One could go on and on. Then they are a religion of peace?!?!

  213. @Cabby
    I have not forgotten those stories about the way that the Iranian children were used during the Iran-Iraq war.

    Even though Saddam Hussein was evil – and we probably did not recognize it at the time of that way – I think that it was the right thing to support Iraq over Iran. At least Saddam Hussein was more secular.

    However, what a lot of people do not realize about Saddam Hussein is the way in which he came to power – he staged a coup (of sorts) – he burst in on the Legislative Assembly in Iraq and with his goons he opened fire killing everyone, and that is how he took power in Iraq. From memory, there are other details about him, such as his membership of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    The Muslim Brotherhood was started in Egypt and it had links going back to Hitler’s Germany. There was a mosque in Munich and there are a lot of connections to the the Muslim Brotherhood. The aims were, of course to eliminate the Jews. I see that the aim has not changed.

    Neither should we forget that the Mufti of Jerusalem was an advisor to Hitler.

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