Blagojevich retrial hearing, August 26, 2010, Judge James Zagel, Citizen Wells open thread

Blagojevich retrial hearing, August 26, 2010, Judge James Zagel

The retrial hearing for Rod Blagojevich takes place today, Thursday, August 26, 2010.

From the Chicago Tribune.

“The retrial of Rod Blagojevich could look decidedly different from the first go-around if the bombastic father-and-son team of Sam Adam and Sam Adam Jr. drop off the case, as the former governor’s lead lawyers have hinted since last week.

Both Adams have suggested they want out of a repeat performance, with the younger one telling attorneys in the case that it’s time for him and his father to move on, according to sources.

Sheldon Sorosky, another Blagojevich lawyer who could remain on a reduced two-member defense team, said Wednesday he believes the younger Adam, whom he described as a “legal Michelangelo,” may struggle to find the energy to tackle the mammoth task again.

Adam’s closing argument was marked by loud and passionate pleas, a flurry of government objections and even an apology for sweating on a juror.

Some answers could become apparent Thursday as U.S. District Judge James Zagel holds the first public status hearing since the trial ended last week, with the jury convicting Blagojevich of lying to the FBI about his knowledge of political fundraising but deadlocking on all the other 23 counts.”

“”The primary purpose (for the hearing) is to set a new trial date,” Sorosky said. “Then, as in any retrial situation, the second purpose — which this time may eclipse the first — is the lawyer situation.”

In a private conference last week with attorneys in the case, Zagel said he expects the former governor to be allowed just two lawyers for the retrial.

Blagojevich, who had seven attorneys for the first trial, has tapped out his $2.7 million campaign fund, which under Zagel’s supervision was used to pay his legal fees. Rules under the Criminal Justice Act allow a defendant whose defense is paid for with taxpayer funds to have no more than two lawyers.”

Read more:

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/08/blagojevich-hearing-could-answer-question-over-lawyers.html

89 responses to “Blagojevich retrial hearing, August 26, 2010, Judge James Zagel, Citizen Wells open thread

  1. Dr. Sam Sewell: “I think CGJ is the quickest, most effective, and most practical way to clean up government corruption. I have yet to see a viable argument against that premise.”

    Justice Antonin Scalia: “…In fact, the whole theory of its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people

    Justice Lewis Powell ruled:“ Such an (Grand Jury) investigation may be triggered by tips, rumors… or the personal knowledge of the grand jurors.”

    Mark Levin: “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO regime:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg1U4AkF6tY&feature=player_embedded

  2. Anyone who thinks that we are involved in a “GAME” of some sort had better take a very hard look around you and notice where the opposing team IS. If you see it aas a game then you need to understand that the quality of your life is up for grabs. This could also INCLUDE YOUR LIFE. If you think that is funny then by all means KEEP LAUGHING. Soon you will be laughing out the opposite side of your face.

  3. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has referred my Case: Barnett, Keyes et al v Obama et al for mediation for Oct. 4 at 11am. There will be only 3 attorneys at this mediation conference: Myself, Assist US attorney Roger West and Assist. U.S. attorney David DeJute. I will keep you posted regarding the outcome of the conference.

    United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
    Notice of Docket Activity

    The following transaction was entered on 08/25/2010 at 11:29:38 AM PDT and filed on 08/25/2010 Case Name:Pamela Barnett, et al v. Barack Obama, et al

    Case Number: 10-55084
    Document(s):Document(s)
    Docket Text:
    Filed order MEDIATION (VLS): Case referred to Mediation for assessment conference only. Telephone conference to be on 10/04/2010 at 11:00 am. (Pacific Standard Time) [7451423] (KKW)

    The following document(s) are associated with this transaction:
    Document Description: Main Document
    Original Filename: 10-56084.pdf
    Electronic Document Stamp:
    [STAMP acecfStamp_ID=1106763461 [Date=08/25/2010] [FileNumber=7451423-0] [640cd041708ca8f666a642ad6ddea5f24e92f0c99adc9b3a3d55957eda23b2f1816ffa78d5e01e783ba1762d98baeed82d39288ae85d2d30c0df1fade05d3943]]
    Notice will be electronically mailed to:

    DeJute, David A., Assistant U.S. Attorney
    Doctor Taitz, Orly, Counsel
    Mr. West, Roger E., Supervisory Attorney

  4. oldsalt79 | August 26, 2010 at 9:41 am |

    GZ iman thinks it is a game with him as the winning coach of bo and other “leaders” as evidenced by the off mic interview above.

    Justice Lewis Powell ruled:“ Such an (Grand Jury) investigation may be triggered by tips, rumors… or the personal knowledge of the grand jurors.”

    Mark Levin: “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO regime:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNW0lkjTxAQ&feature=player_embedded

  5. “DAVENPORT, Iowa (AP) — A federal jury has convicted an Iowa woman of illegally accessing President Barack Obama’s student loan records.”

    http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1110ap_us_obama_student_loan_trial.html

  6. oldsalt79 | August 26, 2010 at 9:41 am | Anyone who thinks that we are involved in a “GAME” of some sort had better take a very hard look around you and notice where the opposing team IS. If you see it aas a game then you need to understand that the quality of your life is up for grabs. This could also INCLUDE YOUR LIFE. If you think that is funny then by all means KEEP LAUGHING. Soon you will be laughing out the opposite side of your face.
    !!!!!!!!!!!
    Well stated, OS…I obviously am naive guessing there are 200 million weapons in our country for hunting and SUCH…Army informed me my guesstimate is waaay off…..
    There WILL be a Holy war if something isn’t averted; political correctness isn’t working for our kind and I believe God will lead us to victory.

  7. 68Truthseeker's avatar 68Truthseeker

    Maj Gen Jerry R Curry(Ret.) : Obama- America Is Too Important To Be Played With By Anybody

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8-FygIOsRo

  8. bo/bp continue to poison Ocean

  9. GORDO | August 26, 2010 at 11:02 am |

    Remember, you can’t ask an illegal alien questions!!!
    You can ask legal citizens if they have health insurance, but can’t ask illegal aliens if they are citizens!!

  10. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/08/26/2010-08-26_james_cameron_bp_opened_avatarstyle_pandoras_box_here_on_earth.html


    But Cameron said the the oil giant has been running roughshod over the EPA, Coast Guard and scientific experts since the early days of the largest environmental disaster in U.S. history. He points to the use of the toxic dispersant, Corexit – BP says it weighed the risks and had government approval – and the company’s blockade of outside inspection of the wellhead site.

    “It’s a bit like having the bank robbers run the video surveillance of the vault,” says Cameron.

    “[The world is in worse shape] than anything I dreamed up for ‘The Terminator,'” said Cameron, referring to his 1984 post-Apocalyptic thriller. “I should make a new ‘Terminator’-like movie where someone travels back in time to warn us before it’s too late.”

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/08/26/2010-08-26_james_cameron_bp_opened_avatarstyle_pandoras_box_here_on_earth.html#ixzz0xjAknb4a

  11. Free Speech…………………………………………..
    That is specifically what I was responding to with my comment. They seem to think it is all a GAME. While there certainly are those Americans who ALSO think that it is all a game WILL at some point discover the error of their belief,as hordes of well armed,and extremely angry people appear over the horizon. Time is running out!

  12. oldsalt79 | August 26, 2010 at 12:00 pm |

    ”as hordes of well armed,and extremely angry people appear over the horizon.”
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    What people are you referring to?

  13. JJ……………………………………….
    While I do not ADVOCATE violence as a solution to any problem, I WILL say that when the steam pressure reaches operational level you may well see a well armed civil army of extremely angered citizen soldiers appear over the horizon. At that point you will need to hastily do one of two things; either join them ,or get out of their way,because it will not be possible to stop them or even reason with them. Time is running out.

  14. It is clear by actions of bo & cohorts in AZ, NY, Gulf States & TN they are trying to incite violence as an excuse for martial law before the Nov elections. I pray that Patriots will exercise their Grand Jury rights before it is too late.

  15. All 4 charges against Robert Blago dropped by DOJ.

  16. Free Speech…………………………………..
    You of all people should be able to figure that out. I should not have to tell you that. By virtue of you saying that ………….I get the feeling that for some reason you don’t realise that 300,000,000 people surround you. Those who you see coming over the horizon will be FROM among those people. Those who come from over the horizon will be those who have HAD enough of BUSINESS AS USUAL IN DC.. As I said to JJ you will need to do one of two things; either join them or GET OUT OF THEIR WAY. Even you will not be able to reason with them. While it could be the beginning of a disaster,it has an equal chance of a successful conclusion. The longer our quality of life deteriorates because of Soetoro,and his GOON squad, the more it will enhance the chances of such an occurrence. If you like the idea of having a ISLAMIC lunatic coming to your home and murdering you and/ or your family then DO NOTHING. The chances are good that this could happen. I am only saying that the bellies of the American people is filling up fast with what is being rammed down their throats by the CRIMINAL in the WH. When everybody has EATEN enough of the DC manure ,there will be an unstoppable wave of HUMANITY descending upon DC. The ensueing melee will probably not end until all branches of government have been PURGED.of the remaining manure in every respective office. Time is running out!

  17. U know things are bad for demRats when they start talking like this in public.

    http://southunionstreet.blogspot.com/2010/08/eggs-and-issues-brights-comments-about.html

    U.S. Congressman Bobby Bright, the first-term Democrat and former mayor of Montgomery, was heard having a little fun at U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s expense during his recent participation in the Montgomery Area Chamber of Commerce’s Eggs and Issues.

    He suggested, jokingly he insisted to his audience, that Pelosi could fall ill and die in coming months. That remark drew laughter from the crowd.

  18. Free Speech……………………………………
    Actually THREE WORDS would have sufficed……..ANGRY AMERICAN CITIZENS.

  19. oldsalt79 | August 26, 2010 at 12:36 pm |

    UR violent philosophy is no different from the jihadists like bo that U say U condemn and UR violent words are much less justified, i.e., we Americans were blessed with a Grand Jury system that can restore the Rule of Law in America.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNW0lkjTxAQ&feature=player_embedded

  20. ARMY DAV implied it all very well. It held true in the REVOLUTIONARY war, and every subsequent war. We are a nation who STILL have the right to BEAR arms. It was entered into the Constitution for a REASON. To provide us with both the legal foundation, and the tools with which to keep America free. If NEGOTIATION, including legal action fails against a tyrannical government, then we are justified in cleaning house no matter what a FEW might think about it. You can harp upon a GRAND JURY action . In reasonable times that might be useful,but when NO LEGAL route remains including the SCOTUS then we have reached the bottom of the barrel. It is then time for the citizenry to act. Nothing will move forwards eccept FORCE. Then the only remaining question is Do about 150,000,000 people have the guts to act.

  21. Keep fighting the good fight, stay safe, God Bless.

  22. oldsalt79 | August 26, 2010 at 1:03 pm |

    “You can harp upon a GRAND JURY action . In reasonable times that might be useful,but when NO LEGAL route remains including the SCOTUS ”

    ————————————————————————————–

    Again, U make a FALSE RED HERRING argument. Twice SCOTUS has upheld the 2nd Amend. right to bear arms in recent months and SCOTUS has signaled that bo will suffer more losses in SCOTUS beginning in October. Only U and the jihadists seem concerned about SCOTUS presently.

    Patriots should follow the example of this Honorable Military Officer.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg1U4AkF6tY&feature=player_embedded

  23. Free Speech……………………………………..
    When or if DC attempts to impose martial law it will probably be useless because a VERY LARGE PART of our existing LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, in nearly every state along with a probable large percentage of our country’s military ALREADY SEE, AND KNOW exactly what is happening. They know that it is only a matter of time until either armed insurrection, and/or complete civil disobedience happens. No imposition of alleged MARTIAL LAW will even matter to people when they have HAD ENOUGH of DC. In all probability the forces assigned to impose, and otherwise enforce martial law will instead ALLY THEMSELVES with the people, and assist in bringing a quick arrest to every CRIMINAL either occupying the WH, and/or all other FEDERAL BUILDINGS in DC. It could all happen in a matter of minutes if properly coordinated. . Everyone …..do your OWN thing. When the action starts you will then know for sure if you are right or wrong. Unfortunately it might already be too late to correct your own error in judgement.

  24. Newsmax.com recently reported:

    “One thing appears certain: Supreme Court Justice John Roberts isn’t likely to back down to Obama. Roberts reportedly still is angry over President Obama’s decision to use the State of the Union address to scold the justices for their Citizens United v. FEC ruling, which rejected limitations on corporate and nonprofit electioneering.

    When Obama said during the State of the Union address that the ruling would “open the floodgates” to donations by foreign companies and other special interests to influence U.S. elections, Justice Samuel Alito mouthed the words “Not true.”

    The president’s decision to use his bully pulpit to frame the ruling’s political impact incorrectly may have caused lasting damage to his relationship with the judiciary. The Los Angeles Times reported on Tuesday that “Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. is still angered by what he saw as a highly partisan insult to the independent judiciary.”

    The Los Angeles Times reported Monday that a number of legal scholars now consider a clash between the expansive pro-government plans of the Obama administration and the Roberts court to be inevitable.”

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    The same thing that happened to ex-President Zelaya is going to happen to bo.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/honduras/5677026/Honduras-supreme-court-ordered-army-coup.html

    Honduras supreme court ‘ordered army coup’

    Manuel Zelaya, the president of Honduras, was arrested by the army in a coup ordered by the country’s supreme court.

    By Jeremy McDermott, Latin America Correspondent
    Published: 8:59PM BST 28 Jun 2009

    “Today’s events originate from a court order by a competent judge. The armed forces, in charge of supporting the constitution, acted to defend the state of law and have been forced to apply legal dispositions against those who have expressed themselves publicly and acted against the dispositions of the basic law,” the country’s highest court said.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Uf_fah5p8

  25. Breaking news –

    “Key Karzai aid at centre of corruption probe ‘on CIA payroll for years’”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7965990/Key-Karzai-aid-at-centre-of-corruption-probe-on-CIA-payroll-for-years.html

    BO = Barack Obama
    CIA = CIA
    BO + CIA = BOCIA
    BOCIA = “THE KID” in Italian

  26. Michael Savage last night was talking about the USA funding & rebuilding & building Islamic Muslim sites on his Radio Program which was Great last night!

    I have been saying & WARNING ALL PEOPLE who will listen to me, history shows us from 600 a.d. all the way through to our present time that we are living in, that ISLAM COMMANDS ALL Islamic Muslim followers to Destroy, Conquer, & TO LITERALLY KILL ALL Non-Muslims, meaning everyone who is not a Muslim; this means ALL Christians & All Jews and Everyone who is a Non-Muslim in MASS MURDERS in what Islamic Muslims call a “Holy Jihad War, ” in their Satanic bible called the Qu’ran (Koran). PLEASE LISTEN ALL AMERICANS & WAKE UP !!

    THE 100% ILLEGAL ALIEN, 100% FOREIGN BORN DOMESTIC ENEMY, BARRY SOETORO/OBAMA – SOEBARKAH HAS DECLARED A WAR ON ALL AMERICANS FROM WITHIN!! LITERALLY, BARRY SOETORO/OBAMA – SOEBARKAH IS A RADICAL ISLAMIC MUSLIM & A COMMUNST/MARXIST FASCIST 100% ILLEGAL ALIEN, & A 100% FOREIGN BORN DOMESTIC ENEMY TERRORIST USURPER WHO WAS SENT TO OVERTHROW & TO DESTROY THE USA GOVERNMENT & THE USA PEOPLE FROM WITHIN!! WAKE UP QUICKLY ALL AMERICANS!!!

    ISLAM IS A TERRORIST POLITICAL GOVERNMENT/CULTURE & A TERRORIST ANTI-CHRIST RELIGION IN SELF-DECLARED PERMANENT WAR AGAINST ALL CIVILIZATION, as Islamic Muslims use the Anti-Christ Satanic bible called Qu’ran (Koran) to lead their lives & to guide their behavior on earth with.

    AMERICANS…….. The Islamic Muslim Qu’ran (Koran) COMMANDS ALL Muslims TO DECLARE PERMANENT WAR BY THE SWORD & BY WEAPONS AGAINST & ON ALL NON-MUSLIM PEOPLE, & A PERMANENT WAR BY THE SWORD & BY WEAPONS ON ALL NON-MUSLIM GOVERNMENTS, NATIONS, CULTURES, & RELIGIONS.

    ISLAM TEACHES IT IS COMMANDED TO DO THE HOLY & GOOD TERRORIST ACTIONS TO MASS MURDER ALL NON-MUSLIMS & TO OVERTHROW & TO CONQUER ALL NON-MUSLIM NATIONS & NON-MUSLIM GOVERNMENTS TO MAKE ISLAM THE ONE WORLD DOMINANT ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT & PEOPLE ON EARTH, ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATING & KILLING BY MASS MURDER & BY THE SWORD OF WAR ALL NON-MUSLIM PEOPLE & ALL NON- MUSLIM NATIONS BY DESTOYING & KILLING THEM!! THIS IS
    WHAT ISLAM TEACHES!! WAKE UP!!

    This is WHO & WHAT The USA Government is giving our USA money to. Brothers & Sisters In ALMIGHTY GOD THE SAVIOR OF HUMANITY, GOD THE SON, LORD JESUS CHRIST’S MOST HOLY NAME, our own USA Government is giving money to help Islamic Muslims build buildings, gain food, clothing, shelter, and buy & stock up on weapons that the Islamic Muslims can use to destroy us in the USA. This Is Completely Outrageous as the USA Government is committing High Crimes & High Treasons against ALL Americans, as the USA Govenment helps Enemies of the USA to get stronger & The USA Government is giving Enemies Of The USA Aid & Comfort so The Enemies Of ALL Non-Mulims in the USA Can Literally DESTROY US!!

    I have been calling for a Peaceful 50 State Secession from the Out-Of- Control Treasonous Federal Government for over 8 months now, because the USA Federal Government is NOT Representing us, and because the USA Federal Government is Refusing to Obey the Rules Of Law in the USA Constitution, and in the USA Federal Government, and the Federal Government is completely Out-Of-Control, & Tyrannically using its powers to remove, abolish, destroy & to end the existence of the God-Given Freedoms, Civil Rights, & Liberties that GOD THE CREATOR gave to us.

    “US FUNDS RESTORATION OF ISLAMIC SITES”
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38838568

  27. The Government Can Use GPS to Track Your Moves

    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2013150,00.html#ixzz0xjoG3MoW

  28. Free Speech…………………………
    You are certainly within your rights to call whatever I say a RED HERRING or anything else you wish. That is your privilege. I simply don’t give a hoot what you think. I have only stated my case which is what all of us are privileged to do here, and I have all done it. So be it. If you choose you can comment until hell freezes over about RED HERRINGS. By the way I threw the phrase out of my vocabulary, years ago. Many people these days don’t even know what a RED HERRING is. I of course do but I don’t give a damn anyway what people think. So it is irrelavent. I like to refer to things that I see, read,or hear as either REAL,or PHONEY, the TRUTH, or a IIE. Call it what you want and I will call it what I want. So we agree to disagree. Have a good day FS. I wish you well.

  29. From the Houston Chronicle, “Gonzalez said DHS attorneys are conducting the reviews on a case-by-case basis. However, he said they are following general guidelines that allow for the dismissal of cases for defendants who have been in the country for two or more years and have no felony convictions.

    In some instances, defendants can have one misdemeanor conviction, but it cannot involve a DWI, family violence or sexual crime, Gonzalez said.”

    So, sneak into this country, do not get caught for two years, and you are home free.
    Link:
    http://capoliticalnews.com/blog_post/show/6074

  30. Bill Cutting…………………………
    Did you expect anything else? This was easy to see coming.

  31. Philo-Publius's avatar Philo-Publius

    oldsalt79 at 1:03 pm |

    We are a nation who STILL have the right to BEAR arms. It was entered into the Constitution for a REASON…If NEGOTIATION, including legal action fails against a tyrannical government, then we are justified in cleaning house no matter what a FEW might think about it.

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    That’s how the Founders intended it.

    “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government…it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
    — The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, July 4, 1776

    “No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
    — Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334, [C.J. Boyd, Ed., 1950]

    “…And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”
    — Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787, ME 6:373, Papers 12:356

    Decades later, even Lincoln spoke the same

    “This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it.”
    — Abraham Lincoln

    “Our safety, our liberty, depends upon preserving the Constitution of the United States as our fathers made it inviolate. The people of the United States are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”
    — Abraham Lincoln

  32. Free Speech……………………..
    The capability to see into your back yard has existed almost since the first GPS sattelite was put into orbit. Unfortunately it has the technical capability to see a pile of doggy do on your back yard lawn in sharp detail. It is also probable that a ROGUE government will indeed look down upon you ,or your property for any number of alleged reasons. Unless there is an expert rifleman among us who owns a really nasty anti space craft battery that will shoot a projectile up to the suspected spying satellite it is probable that the spying will go on for a long time.

  33. Philo-Publius's avatar Philo-Publius

    “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”
    — George Washington

    “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.”
    — Ronald Reagan

  34. Aka Presidency – America’s Most Expensive Mistake
    Little-known fact:
    Obama’s failed stimulus program cost more than the Iraq war
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/08/aka-presidency-americas-most-expensive.html

  35. Philo-Publius | August 26, 2010 at 2:47 pm |

    “Our safety, our liberty, depends upon preserving the Constitution of the United States as our fathers made it inviolate. The people of the United States are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”
    – Abraham Lincoln

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    Abe neglected to mention that We the People are the rightful masters of the President and all other public servants as well. Furthermore, our Founding Fathers gave us the right to remove any public servant by the Grand Jury process.

  36. Philo-Publius's avatar Philo-Publius

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is now nearly tied with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi when it comes to unpopularity among voters nationwide.
    http://tinyurl.com/nfpt9g

    Voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats on all 10 of the important issues regularly tracked by Rasmussen Reports.
    http://tinyurl.com/lnahxa

  37. Philo-Publius's avatar Philo-Publius

    Michael Bloomberg shamed those who oppose the Ground Zero Victory Mosque and told a Ramadan audience this week, “We are all Muslims.”
    http://tinyurl.com/28edwlc

  38. 68Truthseeker's avatar 68Truthseeker

    Dr. Alan Keyes Discusses His Upcoming Obama Eligibility Lawsuit

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQc-baC7ZGE

  39. 68Truthseeker | August 26, 2010 at 3:16 pm |

    Thanks. Once again Dr. Keyes frames the argument exceptionally well.

  40. What happened to a sitting President in another country is one thing and what will happen in the US will likely be quite another as was the case for the President of Honduras, some time back. Where it relates to Soetoro, the case is substantially different. Soetoro so far as I can see is NOT even the LEGAL President of the United States. I base this upon the notion that NO clear evidence has EVER been shown to ANYBODY in the US that Soetoro’s birthname was ever LEGALLY reinstated via a NAME CHANGE PETITION IN a COURT of LAW. This was researched for many months,and there IS NO PUBLIC RECORD of his name change having been granted in any US COURT. The court action on such a petition becomes PUBLIC INFORMATION.(YEA OR NEA.) when acted upon If this is accurate then the fact that he used the name Obama he perpetrated election fraud against the American people while his true name was still Soetoro. The American people voted for an illegal name.(Barrack Obama) This is as damning as NO LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE. He is NOT the LEGAL POTUS .At present the US does not have a LEGAL potus. So far everything he has signed, said, and done is all not binding. Everything that he has signed is also illegal,including the Healthcare Bill. Everybody needs to see this in the light of day. This is also why I suspect the SCOTUS of being a CO CONSPIRATORS (John Roberts) I personally think that Roberts at least had suspicions. If there was any suspicion AT ALL on his part he was OBLIGATED to act by not swearing in Soetoro until the suspicion was either proven as real or completely disproven. No harm would have ever been done to the POTUS, by a few days of delay. I personally think that the American people would have allowed this,if for no other reason than to strengthen the POTUS which such an action would certainly have done, or it would have ended his POTUS career early on. It is also probable that as an IllINOIS SENATOR he was NOT legally Barrack Obama either.. This means that he has perpetrated election fraud TWICE in the US.

  41. bo/bp have already abandoned clean up of oil spill and it now appears that they are ready to abandon the relief well.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill

    HOUSTON – A senior BP executive is again avoiding committing the oil giant to using relief wells to seal to the Gulf of Mexico well that blew out in April.

    Senior Vice President Kent Wells on Thursday skirted questions by federal investigators on whether the oil giant will proceed with the relief wells. He told the investigators probing the April 20 explosion that killed 11 people that there are “multiple options” to stop the oil. He says the relief wells are “the ultimate backup if everything else fails.”

    Retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the government’s point man on spill response, has insisted the relief wells would be the final solution.

    However, BP said in a statement that the company and Allen “remain aligned regarding relief well plans.”

  42. Hi Old Salt,
    If you want to do something outside on your property and you don’t want satellites to be “watching” your actions, wait for a cloudy day and the satellites will not be able to see your outside activities.

  43. Fernley Girl's avatar Fernley Girl

    If you think Obamacare is a bad idea PLEASE go here to read, donate, volunteer:

    http://peoplev.us/

  44. WASHINGTON — Scientists heaped more criticism Thursday on the Obama administration’s claim that most of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill is gone, saying that it was too early to determine the remaining oil’s impact on the waters or marine life.

    Ian MacDonald, a Florida State University oceanographer, also cast doubt on the government’s claim that oil “is biodegrading quickly” in the ocean, arguing that scientists still don’t know how fast hydrocarbon-eating bacteria are working. MacDonald, who’s 58, said the spill would remain in the Gulf in some form for the rest of his life.

    “That’s a lot of oil,” he said, “and it’s not going away quickly.”

    Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/08/19/99410/scientists-say-gulf-oil-to-linger.html#ixzz0xk9VHsl4

  45. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oil-spill-hearings-20100826,0,2159269.story

    Oil industry’s answers frustrate federal panel

    The lead investigator examining the Deepwater Horizon disaster appears to be losing patience with vague or nonresponsive responses from officials including a BP vice president.

  46. Bloomberg couldn’t shame a PISSANT. He will soon discover the exact level of his popularity. He has made everyone in the city administration look like HORSES rear ends. There ia a SEETHING anger amongst a hell of a lot of New Yorkers. If an election was to occur today in New York either Giuliani, or Koch would be elected by a landslide. Moronic Bloomberg would be out the BACK door with a size 12 shoeprint on the rear of his trousers.

  47. Fernley Girl's avatar Fernley Girl

    Video, Judge Napolitano, candidate Terri McCormick & Peoplev.us:

    https://peop27.sslcert14.com/video.aspx

  48. Crystal…………………………………
    That probably wouldn’t stop Soetoro. He would probably try to use RADAR, or certain sophisticated high altitude listening devices. Just don’t hiccup, because the FED will know about it.

  49. Crystal

    Plant lots of shade trees.

  50. In sound and video technology sub sound technologies exist which permit our subs to hear a human pass gas over a thousand miles away. A similar technology exists where video from some real distance exists. By the way the video even has the capability to measure your house, accurately from nearly 1000 miles out in space. Hard to believe. Well there is a National telephone number that you can dial up that if you dial it you can order a space measurement of your property. If you live in the country,they can also tell you where your septic tank is.

  51. Up around Santa Barbara Cal, crude has oozed into the sea for nearly ever. Yet mother nature has been able to turn the black stuff into very heavy tarballs for a very long time. Some divers recently dove down to have a look at the botton of the Ocean in about 100 feet of water. Apparently huge tarballs have been forming and rolling down the national shelf for hundreds of years. At 100 feet they stated some are petrified into hard black rocks. Really interesting stuff. These recent dives were by people from Cal Tech.

  52. California used to have a real problem of crude oozing to the surface at various places throughout California. A number of years back a lot of properties had to be abandoned because oil was even seeping into basements of older homes. Most of the properties were sold or leased to companies that specialised in shallow oil recovery.

  53. Does it somehow seem that BP is afraid to penetrate the Macondo well. Do you suppose that the methane pressure could be building again. If that is the case it won’t take mother nature long to let everybody know about it. Perhaps after another couple of drilling platforms head to the bottom somebody might just figure out that mother nature doesn’t like having holes drilled in her BOSOM.

  54. Illegals Are Entering U.S. by Boats Off of CA

    This is a new frontier for illegal immigrants entering the United States — a roughly 400-square-mile ocean expanse that stretches from a bullring on the shores of Tijuana, Mexico, to suburban Los Angeles. In growing numbers, migrants are gambling their lives at sea as land crossings become even more arduous and likely to end in arrest.

    http://www.newsmax.com/US/US-Sea-Smuggling/2010/08/26/id/368436?s=al&promo_code=A9D6-1

  55. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5he31KTJkp-oYdB1bLEhHuzIzH1hwD9HKOQE84

    “I probably would put oysters at the top of the concern list and I don’t think there’s a close second,” said marine scientist George Crozier, who directs the Dauphin Island Sea Lab in Alabama. …

    Oysters are probably the best absorbers of oil, as they take in droplets and dissolved oil, said Carys Mitchelmore, an aquatic toxicologist at the University of Maryland Center for Environmental Science.

    Most oyster testing is just beginning, so stay tuned.

  56. http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=52627

    “Great concern” about this fish kill [of 5,000-15,000 fish floating dead on Sunday in St. Bernard Parish], and many others in recent weeks.

    “Because it was both bottom dwelling fish and crab, and other fish from the middle of the water column, whatever caused this covered the entire water column. That gives me great concern.”

    “The scientist in me says there was some other triggering mechanism.”… likely oil and toxic dispersants from the BP oil disaster.

    “A fish kill from a red tide, as I’ve observed, causes fish to come to the surface to be in distress, flopping around, and slowly they die, and new ones come up. This was not observed in any of these kills. All we had was a massive amount of dead fish coming to the surface.”

    “I was amongst all these dead fish in St. Bernard Parish… And there were off-bottom fish there as well, which was the same thing we had at the fish kills at Cat Island and Long Beach-Pass Christian, so I see a trend here. Prior to the BP oil spill and the widespread applications of dispersants in all three of these recent fish-kill areas, we have never had evidence of such widespread kills.”

  57. http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=52627

    On Aug. 18, a team from Georgia Sea Grant and the University of Georgia released a report that estimates that 70 to 79 percent of the oil that gushed from the well “has not been recovered and remains a threat to the ecosystem”.

    … Dr. Cake, along with commercial fishermen and Gulf Coast environmentalists, are drawing direct parallels to BP’s oil disaster and the use of toxic dispersants as the likely cause of the increased numbers of fish kills they are witnessing.

    “There are several parallels to the spill,” Dr. Cake added. “We have evidence from fisherman operating in the VOO [Vessels of Opportunity] fleet and fishermen in the area who observed the spraying of dispersants by both aircraft and vessels in the immediate vicinity of the fish kills. Therein lies one triggering mechanism.”

    “A fish kill from a red tide, as I’ve observed, causes fish to come to the surface to be in distress, flopping around, and slowly they die, and new ones come up. This was not observed in any of these kills. All we had was a massive amount of dead fish coming to the surface,” he said.

    Chasidy Hobbs, with Emerald Coastkeeper in Pensacola, Florida, is on the City of Pensacola Environmental Advisory Board and directs the environmental litigation research firm, Geography and Environment.

    Hobbs recently informed IPS of a one mile-long fish kill on Aug. 20 near Pensacola, and said of the BP oil disaster and ongoing use of dispersants, “We’re poisoning the entire Gulf of Mexico food web. It’s criminal.”

    The growing dead zone in the Gulf, which scientists believe will be the size of Massachusetts this year, is now already extremely close to shore.

    “Local fisherman in Alabama report sighting tremendous numbers of dolphins, sharks, and fish moving in towards shore as the initial waves of oil and dispersant approached in June,” Environmentalist Jerry Cope wrote recently. “Many third- and fourth-generation fishermen declared emphatically that they had never seen or heard of any similar event in the past. Scores of animals were fleeing the leading edge of toxic dispersant mixed with oil. The Gulf of Mexico from the Source into the shore is a giant kill zone.”

    “I was amongst all these dead fish in St. Bernard Parish,” Dr. Cake added, “And there were off-bottom fish there as well, which was the same thing we had at the fish kills at Cat Island and Long Beach-Pass Christian, so I see a trend here. Prior to the BP oil spill and the widespread applications of dispersants in all three of these recent fish-kill areas, we have never had evidence of such widespread kills.”

  58. Has bo/bp’s use of corexit has made it impossible to separate dispersed oil/corexit from Gulf water?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_szilqpFjg&feature=player_embedded

  59. John McCain At It Again

    http://conservativeactionalerts.com/blog_post/show/923

    Anyone paying attention knows that John McCain has been a Big-Government Globalist Neocon (BGGN) for virtually his entire senatorial career. As with many BGGNs hiding out in the Republican Party, McCain likes to talk about smaller government, but his track record is littered with the promotion of one big government program after another. But, what else would one expect from a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)?

    Lately, however, McCain has outdone himself. He has introduced two bills in the US Senate that are about as Machiavellian as they could be. I am referring to S.3081, a bill that would authorize the federal government to detain American citizens indefinitely without trial, and S.3002, a bill that would authorize the federal government to regulate vitamins, minerals, and virtually all health and natural food products.
    ************************************
    I am LIVID over the above. Of course, we know he is a RINO, but, boy, the pretense we had during the primaries. I just talked to his local office about these bills he has introduced; they referred me to the DC office tomorrow. Arizona is stuck with him for another six years. (Sob!)

  60. I just checked on the bill, S3002, which is mentioned in my last post as being introduced by Sen.McCain. His office told me sometime ago that he had pulled his support from that bill regulating vitamins, etc. Here is what I found:

    “Senator McCain’s Dietary Supplement Safety Act (S. 3002) is no longer supported by McCain himself, but cannot be formally withdrawn and so remains for this session.”

    So, it is still “around”, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if McCain puts new life into it against the will of the people.

  61. Philo-Publius's avatar Philo-Publius

    Regents Exam Propagandizes For Islam, Against Christianity

    http://tinyurl.com/2bq66g3

  62. oldsalt79 | August 26, 2010 at 12:43 pm | Free Speech……………………………………
    Actually THREE WORDS would have sufficed……..ANGRY AMERICAN CITIZENS.
    Hi, Oldsalt…I’ll add to that…
    ANGRY AMERICAN TAXPAYING CITIZENS!!

  63. The Arizona senate race with McCain winning to me is unbelievable! Does anyone think there is any possible legal way that the PATHETIC McCain could have possibly legally won in Arizona? To me, It is OBVIOUS that McCain is a One World Government/New World Order RINO (Republican In Name Only) when he really is a unprincipled Lawless Liberal who is a Totalitarian BIG FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LAWLESS GLOBALIST hiding out as a Republican! When people were voting for Hayworth and their ballots were hand fed into ballot counting machines, were the ballot COUNTING machines rigged to give many votes that people voted for Hayworth delivered to
    McCain? I think this is what happened! From what I have read there were very few people in Arizona who wanted McCain to get re-elected. Many
    Arizonians thought McCain was an incompetent & weak career politician, & an Anti-American, & an Anti-Constitutionalist traitor.

    Hilllary Clinton is a Democrat who is even more libert and more BIG GOV. than McShame!

  64. How Has It Come to This?

    Photo Essay of The Gulf – A Must See!!!

    Sunday 22 August 2010

    Throughout the day, the question “what have we done” drifts into my consciousness. What have we done? How has it come to this?

    Thousands of lives along the Gulf Coast are being devastated by this disaster. This is merely the beginning of yet another toxic epoch for the Gulf of Mexico, all the humans that live along the coast, and all the marine life and wildlife that make their homes here.

    What have we done? How has it come to this? Where do we go from here?

    (EXCERPT) more:

    http://www.truth-out.org/how-has-it-come-this62558

  65. UR violent philosophy is no different from the jihadists like bo that U say U condemn and UR violent words are much less justified, i.e., we Americans were blessed with a Grand Jury system that can restore the Rule of Law in America.

    Oh my, Oldsalt….do we have someone who wouldn’t approve of the actions of 1776??

  66. Starla – Unfortunately J.D.Hayworth had some things in his past that the McCain campaign dug up. I researched those sometime ago and found those allegations were nothing really of any importance. It was the perception that McCain played on and distorted in his ads. After all, he had twenty million to pump into retaining his seat.
    I like J.D. from when he was in the House, I believe, for six terms. He is honest and a true-blue conservative. He certainly won the debates with McCain hands down. Of course, I voted for him and was very sad to learn that the polls had been true. Don’t forget, he had the endorsement of Sarah Palin and other conservatives. J.D. fought a hard, courageous fight.

  67. Patriots should follow the example of this Honorable Military Officer.

    Ahhhh…oldsalt’s and ARMY”S way doesn’t require a retainer to attorneys…..bullets are cheaper.

  68. DABIG | August 26, 2010 at 7:11 pm |

    It looks like after poisoning the Gulf with corexit and covering up oil on the beaches, bo/bp are shutting down the “clean up” and abandoning the relief wells.

    It will be interesting to see how the msm cover 5th anniversary of katrina without reporting on the bo/bp oil spill.

  69. When Obama said during the State of the Union address that the ruling would “open the floodgates” to donations by foreign companies and other special interests to influence U.S. elections, Justice Samuel Alito mouthed the words “Not true.”

    UHHHH…he should know …I mean foreign companies, foreign gov’t…just horses of different colors.

  70. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)'s avatar Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    oldsalt79 | August 26, 2010 at 2:28 pm |

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    I am becoming very afraid that what you are anticipating is substantially correct and the only option left other than wholesale submission.

    What you are saying is far different from illegal Jihad activities to overthrow The Government, The American Way of Life, and Our System. That is what our enemies want to do. What you are saying is to eliminate the CANCER within The Government, while PRESERVING our Way of Life and our System. That is the wonderful thing about America – it is the System that is sacred, not an individual or even a gaggle of corrupt individuals. We swear allegiance to a constitution, not a king. And the founding fathers and the words of the constitution itself anticipate that a “house cleaning” may be necessary from time to time.

    And I am frankly getting tired of hearing about Grand Juries. At this point in time and for this particular purpose, they clearly will not work. Think about this rationally. They are just another path to get to where we already are. We can turn the crank on a constitutionally allowed process (as we have already done!) and you will eventually get in front of a magistrate who will deny standing or claim lack of jurisdiction.

    Several courts – including the USSC – have had multiple opportunities to grab these particular reigns and they have REFUSED! Why would they change in the future? It is just preposterous to suggest otherwise.

    I don’t care how mad any of the Supremes are, I don’t care what the LA Times says – that is just posturing and huffing and puffing. No court will EVER touch this. And, like the Blago trial, even if another collateral trial even gets close, the DOJ will frag it.

    In my well considered view, right now, there are only two possible non-revolutionary solutions: 1) LtC Lakin Court Martial, and 2) something yet to break in the court of public opinion. That’s it.

    Then it is either submit or rebel.

    Look for a big Repub win in November and the a malicious and angry Lame Duck congress to drive the final nails in our coffin.

    As far as treason and treachery go, however, I think Commander Zero has finally done the deed – in blazing neon lights. I cannot believe what he did in his UN Human Rights report. One would think that would even wake up the dead and sycophantic MSM! That is bold deluxe first rate treachery! This is way worse than just simple bowing and apologies for some generic things America may or may have not done. This is chapter and verse knife in the back.

    In your military experience, what is the proper punishment for a commander that rats out some of his own staff and turns them over to the enemy?

  71. “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.”
    – Ronald Reagan

    I like to think that of christianity also…apparently Bloomberg isn’t one of us.

  72. Cabby – AZ | August 26, 2010 at 6:17 pm |
    Hmmm…this you’d believe from the skank that helped Kennedy create the amnesty bill of 12 million Mexicans??

    And then told the Arizonans he wanted the border patrolled, Mexicans sent home, and no amnesty??
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    DABIG | August 26, 2010 at 7:11 pm |
    How Has It Come to This?

    Photo Essay of The Gulf – A Must See!!!

    Dabig, I visit this link for news from the residents each day and sometimes share news…

    http://pub47.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3957401277&frmid=7844&cmd=show

  73. JJ | August 26, 2010 at 7:52 pm |
    Cabby – AZ | August 26, 2010 at 6:17 pm |
    Hmmm…this you’d believe from the skank that helped Kennedy create the amnesty bill of 12 million Mexicans??
    ********************************
    Are you being funny or do you think I believe McCain’s words??

  74. Citizen Carlyle – 7:36 PM
    What you are saying is to eliminate the CANCER within The Government, while PRESERVING our Way of Life and our System. That is the wonderful thing about America – it is the System that is sacred, not an individual or even a gaggle of corrupt individuals. We swear allegiance to a constitution, not a king. And the founding fathers and the words of the constitution itself anticipate that a “house cleaning” may be necessary from time to time.
    **********************************************
    Your points are well taken, but I can see danger in making a hasty decision. We should be assessing the situation by hours and days, not weeks and months. By that I mean anticipating any kind of violent revolutionary action should be SERIOUSLY thought out, and, frankly, today is not the day, nor tomorrow, nor next week. There is among some here (not our military folks) a rather cavalier attitude re. the armed resistance that may truly come about. That attitude scares me. These folks that speak this way are still probably not fully realizing what they are thinking and saying.

    If it comes to a civil war, life (for the survivors) will never be the same again and don’t expect armed rebellion to right all of the wrongs. Please don’t think I’m against war, but I am against a bunch of vigilantes taking it upon themselves to start something that they cannot finish. It will be a big free-for-all. Don’t forget our founding fathers were men of great faith and when they revolted against Great Britain they were under the command of true leaders who could lead. They were on God’s side, too.

    Are we on God’s side today? He definitely is against tyranny and what this country is now enduring, but we need to seek His guidance. Take a look at the French Revolution – It did not have the outcome that ours had. The oppressed under the elite, became the oppressors once they got into power.

    IMHO, what we need to do is be prepared in our hearts (and arms, etc., for those who can) that it may come to armed rebellion, BUT – and it is a big “but”, we need to exercise some patient waiting to see exactly what direction we are going to take after November. We cannot “jump the gun.” After all, from battle encounters I’ve read about (not like our veterans here who know combat) to be effective, proper timing is mandatory. If a body of soldiers is going to take a hill, it must be done exactly at the right time to be the most effective. Anyone who steps out of line to “do it on his own” can enable the enemy to have the advantage and cause soldiers lives to be lost from a foolish move.

    We haven’t yet exhausted the means that our F. Fathers gave us in the Constitution to right the wrongs – to rid our government of the tyrants. We must do that first. I think we need to stop the talk of storming these public officials by armed resistance and throwing the bums in the slammer. That may be what we feel like within our hearts, but we still live in America and America still is constitutionally under the rule of law, until and unless it has been broken completely. That is not true yet, no matter how disgusted we are.

  75. Citizen carlyle, An exellent post at 7:36 pm and very true statements. I commend you.

  76. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)'s avatar Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Cabby – AZ | August 26, 2010 at 8:58 pm |

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    I cannot disagree with anything you say. In addition there are a number of ways to rebel without taking up clubs and grunting like cavemen. I think a widespread refusal to pay Federal Taxes is one such way.

    But I am also concerned about what happens if “they” start the war. What happens if they declare martial law? What happens if they try to disarm us? These are significant near-term probabilities (months – not weeks, not years).

    We also need to see what happens in the Nov elections. That is drawing near. That will also usher in the Lame Duck congress – which we need to watch like a hawk.

    And PLEASE do not underestimate the magnitude of the treason Commander Zero just perpetrated with his Human Rights report.

  77. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)'s avatar Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Joy | August 26, 2010 at 9:00 pm |

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    Aw shucks. Blush. Blush.

  78. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | August 26, 2010 at 11:36 pm |
    But I am also concerned about what happens if “they” start the war. What happens if they declare martial law? What happens if they try to disarm us? These are significant near-term probabilities (months – not weeks, not years).
    (snip)
    And PLEASE do not underestimate the magnitude of the treason Commander Zero just perpetrated with his Human Rights report.
    ************************************
    Very salient points! If they start the war, declare martial law, or unacceptably invade our privacy, etc., then in order to protect ourselves there would have to be conflict, and it would be armed, no doubt. In order to be effective that conflict would have to be offensive, as well.

    This latest from BHO (well, I haven’t read any news for a couple of hours) in contacting the U.N. to report on AZ’s immigration bill and tattle about other things “he” feels offensive about this country, just has to be one of the worst things yet. The unmitigated gall for him to subject us to the “review” of other nations is an outright assault on the sovereignty of this great country. Treason? Well, of course, SOS Hillary has gotten a small arms treaty worked out with the U.N. So…….

    I cannot afford to do any wishful thinking. If things don’t change, we are headed on a collision course and that will probably result in armed conflict. May God help us! God bless America!

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