Educate congressmen, Gear up for 2010 elections, Are they paying attention?
Back in 2008 there was an effort to educate members of Congress on Obama’s eligibility issues and on the definition of natural born citizen. We are just a few months away from the 2010 elections. How educated are current members now as well as those running for office? Are they serious about adhering to the US Constitution? Are they aware of Obama’s use of many private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a birth certificate and college records? Are they going to listen now? Are they aware of such important issues as corruption and racial bias in the US Justice Dept.? We need to find out. This is an opportunity to educate then and find out where they stand. Most of them get their news from the MSM.
This story should go viral. The news is finally talking about voter fraud and intimidation committed by the usurper and his evil minions.
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/07/11/great-merciful-zeus-gigi-gaston-on-fox-challenges-dnc-to-answer-for-the-voter-fraud-it-allowed-in-2008/#comment-225610
May God have mercy on their souls! Any and all of the MSM and elected people who conspire to hide the truth about this corrupted Kenyan and his little followers. OWO, SOROS,Bildeburg, at al
The first blood that is shed will be on your hands! MSM you have a chance to stop the civil unrest and the violence that comes with it. You dam well know that the children will be the focus of one certain group. Do you want their blood on your hands protecting the evil one?
God Bless America
with love from this cracka
I went the other day to have my test with Health Link and conversations start! Can you believe that several people still do not know what is going on? They hadn’t heard about the hate spewed out about whity and killing our babies! I told them to get off their ass and get educated!
Are they paying attention?
Not the White House.
Attorney General Eric Holder, just days after filing a federal lawsuit against Arizona’s immigration law, on Sunday floated the possibility of filing another suit on racial profiling grounds
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/11/holder-floats-possibility-racial-profiling-suit-arizona/
Doctors Threaten to Pull Out of Texas Medicaid
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/health/Doctors-Threaten-to-Pull-Out-of-Texas-Medicaid-98202569.html
More on the Fox & Friends interview with Gigi Gaston.
‘We Will Not Be Silenced’: Democrats Produce Documentary Alleging Rampant Vote Fraud by Team Obama
Posted by Jim Hoft on Mo
http://tinyurl.com/2wnbw7n
Kill the Ground Zero Mosque TV Ad
Are they paying attention?
Obama went golfing for the 8th time today since the Gulf Oil Spill disaster began on April 20, 2010
http://tinyurl.com/23cxdhj
The Warrior Song – Hard Corps
Are they paying attention?
Illegal alien child molester secretly awarded $4 million by Orange County, CA
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/07/illegal_alien_child_molester_r.html
It just dawned on me why Obama is so against the AZ law. The law makes it illegal for Obama to go to AZ.
If Obama went to AZ with his kids, and they all went for ice cream, he could be arrested for being undocumented.
Are they paying attention?
AZ Ceded to Mexico and the Rise of the Obama Police State?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/25246
Day 84…….
News for the day?
BP Happy with oil leak effort, but NO promises!
Meanwhile – News from the Grifters who helped start the moral and financial decay of our once great nation. OUR NATION HAS SOLD IT’S SOUL –
WOW – The Clintons have had a very busy and productive weekend. He PERFORMED the wedding ceremony on U.S. Congressman Anthony Weiner of N.Y. and Ms. Huma Abedin. Interesting – He is Jewish and she is Muslim. Gives new meaning to the old saying ” Keep your friends close and your enemies closer”. And now I read that they just bought (The Clintons) a 11 million dollar mansion in N.Y. Doesn’t she still have an outstanding election debt of 5 million dollars? Only politicians have this kind of credit rating -The more you owe, the better your credit.
http://www.usanewsweek.com/news/Bill-Clinton-to-Perform-Huma-Abedin–and-Anthony-D–Weiner-Wedding-1278785904/
http://www.holeinthehull.com/2010/07/the-clintons-purchase-11-million-dollar-mansion.html
Oh – I forgot. She paid off some of the debt by auctioning off her husband.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-11/hillary-clinton-gets-husband-s-help-reducing-08-debt-to-penn.html
PLEASE REMEMBER WHAT GENERAL GEORGE PATTON SAID – “Politicians are the lowest form of life, and Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.”
http://www.t-room.us/2010/07/posted-wpermission-enough-with-the-profit-and-power-driven-patriots/#more-1571
A great read if you think like me—yes, Mr. Williams, I was tired of ‘talk’ long before you were.
Actions speak louder than……..oh, never mind…obviously, words get more attention.
Texas Grand Juries and Gigi Gaston.
The creator of this shocking video is a long time loyal Texas Democrat named Gigi Gaston. Be sure to read her comments
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/note-to-obots-freaking-about-texas.html
Congress knows all about Obama ineligibility. They just either don’t care or don’t have t he guts to act on it.
They know all about the voter intimidation and the injustice handed down by the DOJ, they just don’t have the guts to do anything about it!
Throw them all out!
They know the law and if they play ignorantm it is no excuse. Hang’em high.
Thank you Citizen Carlyle for reposting that great comment.
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Ginger // July 12, 2010 at 9:08 am
Bravo and Ditto
njre
” Congress knows all about Obama ineligibility. They just either don’t care or don’t have t he guts to act on it “.
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You’re stating they , the Congress is involved in the conspiracy and cover up. It would only have taken one Congressmen to stop Soetoro from entering the contest in 2008.
Act upon it, in what way as a whistleblower , would they be protected under the ” law ” ,?,who would they give the information to ?, what federal department would handle the case?, etc.
JJ // July 12, 2010 at 10:59 am
http://www.t-room.us/2010/07/posted-wpermission-enough-with-the-profit-and-power-driven-patriots/#more-1571
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THE NATION HAS SOLD IT’S SOUL
(From prior thread)
FROM WILLIAM
William // July 12, 2010 at 6:06 am
Something of interest to read…(someone please move this to the new post when it comes out today, I will be away for a bit, thx)
“Sources say smackdown of Obama by Supreme Court may be inevitable”
“Apparently, the Court has had enough.
The Roberts Court has signaled, in a very subtle manner, of course, that it ntends to address the issues about which Obama critics have been screaming to high heaven. A ruling against Obama on any one of these mportant issues could potentially cripple the Administration.”
Second issue……”sources state that the Roberts court has quietly accepted nformation concerning discrepancies in Obama’s history that raise serious questions about his eligibility for the office of President. The charge goes far beyond the birth certificate issue. This information involves possible fraudulent use of a Social Security number in Connecticut, while Obama was a high school student in Hawaii. And that is only the tip of the iceberg.”
/www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conservative- Examiner~y2010m7d9-Sources-say-smackdown- of-Obama-by-Supreme-Court-may-be-inevitable
Sam Sewell // July 12, 2010 at 11:04 am
Texas Grand Juries and Gigi Gaston.
The creator of this shocking video is a long time loyal Texas Democrat named Gigi Gaston. Be sure to read her comments
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/note-to-obots-freaking-about-texas.html
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Thanks for posting this update on the Texas Grand Juries.
comments
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/note-to-obots-freaking-about-texas.html
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The Democratic National Committee (DNC) made a grave error by depriving American voters of their choice of Hillary Clinton as Democratic nominee. Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee. That didn’t happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts. We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for “dinners,” etc.
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It wasn’t just Texas in which bo & his co-conspirators committed these crimes. Crimes were committed all across the USA.
Voter Fraud Cover-up by BHO campaign:
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/leo-haffey-update-october-15-2009-nashville-tn-al-farooq-computer-theft-nashville-election-commission-da-torry-johnson-obama-thugs-judge-dumas-brent-horst-voter-fraud/
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/leo-haffey-update-october-14-2009-notes-from-leo-nashville-tn-davidson-county-obama-thugs-stolen-laptop-computer-with-the-names-social-security-numbers-dates-of-birth-and-addresses-of-every/
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/leo-haffey-latest-news-october-15-2009-subornation-of-perjury-leo-haffey%e2%80%99s-wife-pressured-threatened-and-intimidated-by-a-lawyer-in-nashville-brent-horst-false-charges-nashville-da-t/
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/leo-haffey-background-on-arrest-no-bond-legal-defense-fund-obama-thugs-nashville-corruption-leo-the-lawyer-and-patriot-nazi-germany-revisited/
http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m7d9-Sources-say-smackdown-of-Obama-by-Supreme-Court-may-be-inevitable
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”sources state that the Roberts court has quietly accepted nformation concerning discrepancies in Obama’s history that raise serious questions about his eligibility for the office of President. The charge goes far beyond the birth certificate issue. This information involves possible fraudulent use of a Social Security number in Connecticut, while Obama was a high school student in Hawaii. And that is only the tip of the iceberg.”
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United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams: “Rooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history, the Grand Jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the three branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right…In fact, the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”
For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html
http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html
http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com
For information on Crimes committed by the bo campaign:
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashv
“Educate congressmen, Gear up for 2010 elections, Are they paying attention?”
congress has repeatedly ignored all attempts to educate them; civil lawsuits, tea parties, townhalls, petitions, polls, phone calls, letters, emails etc. etc. etc.
The only thing that will get the politicians attention is a Grand Jury Indictment.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html
http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html
FOX New reporting: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota
The six-month election recount that turned former “Saturday Night Live” comedian Al Franken into a U.S. senator may have been decided by convicted felons who voted illegally in Minnesota’s Twin Cities.
That’s the finding of an 18-month study conducted by Minnesota Majority, a conservative watchdog group, which found that at least 341 convicted felons in largely Democratic Minneapolis-St. Paul voted illegally in the 2008 Senate race between Franken, a Democrat, and his Republican opponent, then-incumbent Sen. Norm Coleman.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/12/felons-voting-illegally-franken-minnesota-study-finds/
From the grounds of the Coffee Party rises … One Nation
Would that be One Nation Under God? Er, not exactly. After the Coffee Party ran out of caffeine, despite the attempts by mainstream media outlets to breathe life into it, progressives have decided to try again. This time, the Washington Post reports on the latest effort by unions and other hardball political players to create a top-down “grassroots” organization to compete with the Tea Party, this time called One Nation
http://tinyurl.com/2e93rsf
Video: Texas Dem blows up when challenged on ObamaCare
http://tinyurl.com/36f935p
speedy // July 12, 2010 at 8:52 am
This story should go viral. The news is finally talking about voter fraud and intimidation committed by the usurper and his evil minions.
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Speedy, the story you link does not detail voter fraud, but rather caucus fraud. Caucuses are private club affairs. Yes, the conduct of the ‘voting’ at caucuses violated club rules; but the club rules! No one has a right to the club nominee of his or her choice.
Caucus fraud is a sexy issue. Given that caucuses disparately award pledged delegates and that being held at night, in such an extended disorganized manner, they exclude from participating many populations including but not limited to elderly, parents of young children, shift workers, and physically challenged; these party contests should be eliminated as a means to choose the party candidate. Problem solved.
Now, can we stop craning our collective necks to look at the car wreck that is blatant D party caucus fraud; and concentrate on the unlawful ballot fraud that put BO’s name on the ballot?
Cabby – AZ // July 12, 2010 at 2:15 am
Free Speech // July 11, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Why is it that the boBots are so concerned about a Grand Jury system that they allege will not work?
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Also, Cabby, the Supreme Court has a lot of legal liberty to hear or not hear cases as they choose. Contrary to some opinion, the court has not solely refused to hear cases purely on the grounds that the cases were flawed. There has been ample opportunity to hear cases (or at least allow discovery) if they wanted to. They could have even “cleared the calendar” and addressed this issue many times over.
One of the underpinnings of the CGJ approach seems to be that all previous attempts were flawed and the CJG approach is sound so the court has to act. Irrespective of “soundness” the court does not “have” to do anything. If they were inclined to deal with this critical issue, they would have already done it.
My well-considered opinion is that the courts have the ability to stall essentially forever, and so nothing will come of ANY court case. This battle must be won in the court of public opinion. We MUST get Mr. and Mrs. Joe Sixpack to have a V8 Moment.
I am still hoping however that the LtC Lakin thing (courts martial) has legs. If nothing else, if he gets railroaded, it will help our public-awareness cause — and could help fire up other military.
The B.P. Presidency – and not just the oil company.
http://www.redstate.com/dia0420/2010/07/12/the-bp-presidency-and-not-just-the-oil-company/
Philo-Publius // July 12, 2010 at 2:12 pm
FOX New reporting: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota
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Why didn’t the rino gov pawlenty & the MBI investigate this? Thank goodness for FOX.
bo & his co-conspirators committed these voter fraud crimes in every major city in America in 2008 and they will do it again in 2010 if they are not indicted for the 2008 crimes in State courts.
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville/
Sam Sewell // July 12, 2010 at 11:04 am
Texas Grand Juries and Gigi Gaston.
The creator of this shocking video is a long time loyal Texas Democrat named Gigi Gaston. Be sure to read her comments
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I am confused. There appears to be nothing new here. All this information has been widely known for almost two years – and Gigi did her documentary a long time ago.
Why the sudden and unexplained attention to this? Did something new happen? Random occurrence? What?
Not so very long ago Kevin and the hillbuzz guys were getting beat-up physically, economically and more, just because they supported the “unapproved” candidate near Obama’s SouthSide since the We will not be Silenced video was released people are finally paying attention. WE THE PEOPLE want honest elections, let the best candidate win but win honestly.
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/07/12/breaking-the-fourth-wall-surreality-of-the-day/
Breaking the fourth wall: surreality of the day
Posted by hillbuzz under Uncategorized
Occasionally, we like to break the fourth wall around here and let you in on some of the more bizarre things that happen in our lives, in relation to this site and the adventures we become embroiled in because of it.
Yesterday, it was a complete surprise for us that the clip from We Will Not Be Silenced featuring K. would be featured so prominently on FOX throughout the day. It ran again and again and again, and was heavily promoted by FOX as well. This was unusual for us because K. filmed that segment for Gigi Gaston two years ago, when she first prepped the initial footage for the documentary. A great many of the people you see from the film are K.’s friends from Team Hillary here in Chicago, with that footage recorded in the summer of 2008, after Hillary suspended her campaign, but before the Denver convention. We’re guessing it might have been July of 2008.
Normally, whenever K. does a media avail, we know it’s coming and can brace for repercussions. And, normally, something just airs once and then it’s over with, but this FOX clip aired many times over the course of Sunday…which is great for the film, and was interesting for K. on a personal level because a half dozen times he happened to be somewhere with a TV on while either a promo or the actual clip itself flashed across the screen and he got recognized. In a waiting room for an appointment. At someone’s house. In a restaurant. At Target. It was surreal.
“Ain’t that you on TV there?”
“No, I don’t think so”.
“Yes, it is. That’s you. On the TV. Right there. You’re saying stuff”.
“You’re crazy”.
The really interesting thing about all of this is the difference in reaction K. got here in Chicago, as opposed to other things he’s done on TV talking about how terrible Dr. Utopia is in the past. During the 2008 campaign, for instance, when the Kool-Aid was strongest in Obama’s cultists, whenever K. would do spots for the Hillary Clinton campaign or for McCain/Palin telling viewers what a fraud, socialist, and race-baiting incompetent Obama is, he’d be recognized afterwards for a day or so and accosted by strangers shouting irrationally at him, because he dared to speak out against The Lightbringer.
That was pretty standard. Especially in Boystown, where people who watched the news made it a point to come up to him after one of these interviews and call him all sorts of names, threaten him, and get up all in his grill.
Well, times sure have changed.
Yesterday, when those FOX spots aired, no one said a damn nasty thing to K. all day…and he was clearly recognized from the clips. People sat and watched the segment with Gigi Gaston. No one shouted to change the channel. They sat and watched, some with mouths agape. K. said he could see people’s eyes focusing intently, as they absorbed the information and thought about the fact that Obama made it into the White House because of graft, fraud, intimidation, and thuggery.
Which, we have known all along.
Which, we have tried to get Americans to understand.
But, until now, Americans on a large scale did not want to listen to this simple truth.
We hope Americans won’t let this happen.
We hope every man, woman, child, cat, dog, and imaginary friend out there sees We Will Not Be Silenced and asks the question “What other instances of voter fraud committed by Democrats using ACORN, the SEIU, the George Soros Secretary of State Project, the Black Panthers, the NAACP, and the Race Industry are out there?”.
Who’s directing this voter fraud?
Who’s ordering this intimidation?
What did the current “president” know and when did he know it?
If people in Chicago, in BOYSTOWN, are actually sitting in rooms with FOX News playing, and don’t get up to change the channel when a segment critical of Obama like this comes on…then we’ve entered into a whole new phase of this failed presidency…where the Kool-Aid has worn off enough for former cultists to at least LISTEN.
We can not waste a single day in giving them access to Gaston’s impressive film to put this information in front of them.
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Free Speech // July 12, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Philo-Publius // July 12, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Why didn’t the rino gov pawlenty & the MBI investigate this? Thank goodness for FOX.
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Exactly! Another question for the Gods. Why now? EVERYBODY knew at the time that this was all cr-p and fraud. Why all the hue and cry now, and not then? Why?
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 12, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Free Speech // July 11, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Why is it that the boBots are so concerned about a Grand Jury system that they allege will not work?
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My well-considered opinion is that the courts have the ability to stall essentially forever, and so nothing will come of ANY court case.
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UR opinion,cc, has no basis in fact or law. U can not quote one legitimate news article to refute the fact that the Roberts Court has disdain for bo. Nor case U cite one legal ruling that contests the Honorable Antonin Scalia ruling regarding the legitimacy and power of the 4th Branch of our Government, the Citizens Grand Jury.
http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m7d9-Sources-say-smackdown-of-Obama-by-Supreme-Court-may-be-inevitable
……”sources state that the Roberts court has quietly accepted nformation concerning discrepancies in Obama’s history that raise serious questions about his eligibility for the office of President. The charge goes far beyond the birth certificate issue. This information involves possible fraudulent use of a Social Security number in Connecticut, while Obama was a high school student in Hawaii. And that is only the tip of the iceberg.”
http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com
United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams: “Rooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history, the Grand Jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the three branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right…In fact, the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”
http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html
ARE THE CANDIDATES COMPLICIT IN OBAMA’S USURPATION?
Remember Scott Brown—the great hope of the Tea Party people who were very instrumental in helping him win? What a great big disappointment he became. He jumped in bed with Obama. It turned out Scott Brown was strictly for Scott Brown.
We are facing the 2010 November elections with many hopeful candidates counting upon being elected because America is so disgusted with the incumbents. They are running of similar platforms to the one listed below by a California hopeful.
For God’s sake, please pay attention. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
While they are astral puking their ideas for a better America trying to seduce the voter, they are totally ignoring the real issues. Not one—Not one—Not one—Not one of their golden ideas to utopia will ever become a reality as long as Obama remains in office. Their pie in the sky ideas how on they will make America better for Americans are just that. They refuse to acknowledge that Obama is directly opposed to any improvement in America that contradict his plan for America—which is to destroy it. Therefore, the best these well intentioned candidates can do is make promises they will never be able to deliver.
While the issues most candidates are claiming they plan to bring forward if elected are basically good they fail to understand that unless Obama is first removed from office they cannot become a reality:
Creating Jobs
“Small businesses and entrepreneurs are the economic engines that will lead us through these difficult times.”
Restoring Fiscal Accountability
“When we know where our money is being spent, it’ll be a whole lot easier to get people focused on saving money.”
California’s Water Crisis
“Bringing relief to California farmers in the Central Valley is one of my highest priorities.”
Focusing Health Care
“Health care reform should be focused on keeping decisions about care between doctors and patients.”
Reducing the Deficit
“Tax, spend and borrow is not a governing philosophy, it’s a cycle of dependency.”
Energy and the Environment
“Our focus must be to find efficiencies in the energy production sector and invest in innovation.”
Immigration
“Illegal immigration undermines our security.”
Protecting America
“Government’s first and foremost priority is to protect its citizens. That means defending our nation from threats of all kinds, both domestic and foreign.”
Good intentions are all the hopeful candidates asking for the public’s vote are offering. So what is wrong with this platform?
This is why we must hold their feet to the fire.
Here is the acid test. Insist the candidates do the following:
CANDIDATES MUST DEMAND OBAMA PRODUCE HIS SEALED RECORDS OR STEP DOWN.
If CANDIDATES GIVE YOU ANY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING ANSWERS AS LISTED BELOW—THEN DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM OR HER
1. Obama is qualified, he is a native citizen___NOT TRUE
2. All the cases in the courts regarding this issue have been thrown out—CORRUPT JUDICAL SYSTEM
3. I don’t want to risk by career by being ridiculed—COWARDLY CANDIDATE
4. The people voted for him, so he is the will of the people—NOT TRUE, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LIED TO ABOUT WHO OBAMA REALLY IS
5. What would happen to the country if it is ruled he is not eligible—NOTHING BUT GOOD AND IMPROVEMENT WILL COME TO AMERICA IF OBAMA IS ARRESTED AND TRIED
This is the acid test that reveals their secret character. Check it out. What is the candidate’s platform? Does their promise list include a willingness to demand Obama produce his documents or step down? When they are out campaigning and fail to mention Obama’s eligibility question, ask they where they stand on it.
If not—then
1. The candidates are complicit in Obama’s usurpation of the government
2. Candidates are in denial
3. Candidates are obfuscating
4. Candidates are placing their careers above country
5. Candidates are deceiving their supporters and voters
6. Candidates are neither different nor better than the corrupt incumbents who violated their oath and duty to protect and serve the Constitution of America and serve their constituents by protecting their best interest.
7. Candidates have already betrayed their country to satisfy their own ambition
8. Candidates will most certainly betray their public trust when confronted with a vote against the public in trade to stay in power
What is wrong is what is missing. What is wrong is what they are conveniently not saying. What they are ignoring is the simple fact they will never accomplish any of these items unless they deal with the most important issue at hand. A is A.
A. The commander and chief is an illegal alien, criminal who does not believe in the above issues. Please take a look at the following video.
The video Obama does not want you to see
Unless every candidate who claims:
“Government’s first and foremost priority is to protect its citizens. That means defending our nation from threats of all kinds, both domestic and foreign.”
Makes the challenge of Obama’s legitimacy the first priority of his or her platform, then he/she is only fooling the him/herself and the public as well. It is “we the people” who are getting the ride up the creek . . .
B. At this stage any one who is not demanding Obama produce proof of his eligibility is complicit in the treason against America.
Every congress person who failed to demand Obama produce his records prior to counting the votes last January 2009 is guilty of aiding Obama to commit fraud and betrayed his oath of office and his country. Every one should be held accountable. Every hopeful candidate running for office should make this one issue the center piece of his/her platform. Shoving this issue under the bed will not absolve or cleanse the whole deceitful, cowardly bunch of them from of their crimes and their guilt. Of course, you probably think because they all agree that makes them innocent and no crime was committed. As I already said you and all those who think like you are just as guilty for their willingness to agree to “not discuss an issue that has sailed on.”
Breaking news—Obama not born in Hawaii
If we do the possible; God will do the impossible.
Please, if you agree with this, post and e-mail the above post everywhere you can. I only ask you do not edit this and credit usapatriots.shout.blogspot.com
We must do anything and everything we can to the best of our ability to restore America!
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 12, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Sam Sewell // July 12, 2010 at 11:04 am
Texas Grand Juries and Gigi Gaston.
The creator of this shocking video is a long time loyal Texas Democrat named Gigi Gaston. Be sure to read her comments
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I am confused. There appears to be nothing new here. All this information has been widely known for almost two years – and Gigi did her documentary a long time ago.
Why the sudden and unexplained attention to this? Did something new happen? Random occurrence? What?
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CC, U R not going to get any info re: Secret Grand Jury deliberations from Sam.
Sam & others have been working on this for a year and a half. Info is shared on a need to know basis only. Why ask why? It is obvious even to the casual observer that bo is going down, legally speaking, of course.
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)
“I am confused. There appears to be nothing new here. All this information has been widely known for almost two years – and Gigi did her documentary a long time ago.
Why the sudden and unexplained attention to this? Did something new happen? Random occurrence? What?”
Fox interviewed Gigi over the weakend.
Michelle // July 12, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Not so very long ago Kevin and the hillbuzz guys were getting beat-up physically, economically and more
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They were lucky they were not killed or jailed by bo’s co-conspirators.
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Who’s directing this voter fraud?
bo
Who’s ordering this intimidation?
bo
What did the current “president” know and when did he know it?
Then 1980’s when he began his career as an organizer of voter fraud and intimidation.
Alex Jones http://www.prisonplanet.tv
http://www.infowars.com
Jones now has links on http://www.drudgereport.com
http://www.wnd.com
http://www.repubx.com article BP doesn’t care about spill
stands to make millions off cap and trade.
CCX CHICAGO CLIMATE EXCHANGE NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED.SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO A U-TUBE AND NAME ALL INVOLVED AND HOW IT GOT STARTED AS BECK EXPLAINED
1,0000000 TIMES WORSE THAN WATERGATE
ANYONE THAT PUSHES AN ENERY BILL PROBABLY HAS SHARES IN CCX UNDER THEIR NAME,DOG’S NAME WIFE’S NAME CCX WILL MAKE 10 TRILLION OR MORE A YR.WHAT A SCAM AND NEEDS TO GO VIRAL !!!!!!!!
JARRETT,OBAMA,GORE,BP,GOLDMAN,REINES
AND MORE INVOLVED TO SELL CARBON CREDITS,AIR EXPOSE THIS
Sam Sewell // July 12, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Fox interviewed Gigi over the weakend.
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Sorry – let me be more clear. I meant: Why does Fox have this sudden interest?
And contrary to FS assertions, I am not fishing for info about secret grand juries – I don’t “fish” – I am always forthright.
I just don’t understand this recent surge of interest in several old topics. Why now?
usapatriots-shout
5. What would happen to the country if it is ruled he is not eligible—NOTHING BUT GOOD AND IMPROVEMENT WILL COME TO AMERICA IF OBAMA IS ARRESTED AND TRIED.
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Agree with everything in the post except for the above quote .
And of course , there is nothing about holding the incumbents accountable for their crimes . I haven’t heard one candidate bring this up.
TRUTH NOW // July 12, 2010 at 3:09 pm
http://www.infowars.com
CCX CHICAGO CLIMATE EXCHANGE NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED.
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Thank you for this post. This particular issue could very well be THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT issue in the world right now.
I know that sounds hyperbolic and insane. But look into it. It could easily put the nail in the coffin of American bankruptcy. It will deeply and dramatically affect each and every American. It has world-wide reach and impact. And ultimately it is the mother of all global wealth-distribution schemes. It’s underlying purpose is to cripple the dominant countries and cultures (1st world, white, northern european) and raise up the victim and underprivileged countries and cultures (3rd world, black/brown, equatorial).
I am an actual scientist – not a politicized pretend scientist – and I know that AGW is total cr-p. AGW is the foundation and pedestal on which carbon trading is built. Without AGW, it all comes tumbling down.
Take every opportunity to read, write, speak, and argue against AGW. This whole thing must be cut off at the knees.
For anybody new to this discussion – start by reading anything and everything by Lord Monckton (Christopher Walter Monckton, 3rd Viscount of Brenchley). He not only exposes the bogus science, but directly addresses the policies and politics involved.
PS – I hate Alex Jones – he is a mega crank. So you can see how passionately I care about this. To even have a topic mentioned in the same sentence as AJ would normally turn me away.
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)
“I just don’t understand this recent surge of interest in several old topics. Why now?”
Just like Sgt. Shultz, “I know nothing.”
(From prior thread)
FROM WILLIAM
William // July 12, 2010 at 6:06 am
Something of interest to read…(someone please move this to the new post when it comes out today, I will be away for a bit, thx)
“Sources say smackdown of Obama by Supreme Court may be inevitable”
“Apparently, the Court has had enough.
The Roberts Court has signaled, in a very subtle manner, of course, that it ntends to address the issues about which Obama critics have been screaming to high heaven. A ruling against Obama on any one of these mportant issues could potentially cripple the Administration.”
Second issue……”sources state that the Roberts court has quietly accepted nformation concerning discrepancies in Obama’s history that raise serious questions about his eligibility for the office of President. The charge goes far beyond the birth certificate issue. This information involves possible fraudulent use of a Social Security number in Connecticut, while Obama was a high school student in Hawaii. And that is only the tip of the iceberg.”
/www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conservative- Examiner~y2010m7d9-Sources-say-smackdown- of-Obama-by-Supreme-Court-may-be-inevitable
# # # #
There you go William.
It’s hilarious how boBots come here intermittantly seeking info on Citizen Grand Jury indictments of their messiah while trying to deny their overwhelming concern about Citizen Grand Jury indictments of their messiah.
Here’s some pro bono legal advice for you boBots, if you are in the United States, you are going to be indicted as a criminal co-conspirator in all of the crimes committed by bo, including but not limited to MURDER, TREASON, ASSAULT, IDENTITY THEFT, FRAUD ETC. unless you provide evidence of all crimes committed by bo to your local LEO’s.
If your local officials are all co-conspirators, then I suggest you hire the best criminal lawyer that you can afford.
Sam Sewell // July 12, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)
“I just don’t understand this recent surge of interest in several old topics. Why now?”
Just like Sgt. Shultz, “I know nothing.”
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I know I should not ridicule Shultz but I am LOL at that one, Sam.
PLEASE GOD – LET THIS BE TRUE
“Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Finds”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/12/felons-voting-illegally-franken-minnesota-study-finds/
Don’t Act Like White Suffering Is Equal To Black Suffering! pt.1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPOB1BwTp9Y&feature=player_embedded
btw, boBots if you think that boBot DA that you made the plea bargain with can protect you, then you are in for a rude awakening.
Don’t Act Like White Suffering Is Equal To Black Suffering! pt.2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRK-hlbjkso&feature=player_embedded#!
shabazz & bo just a couple thugs like oj and they will both soon be in Prison just like oj.
Senate hit with anti-amnesty avalanche
Join those who have sent 150,000 letters of protest
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=176913
Free Speech // July 12, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Sam Sewell // July 12, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Just like Sgt. Shultz, “I know nothing.”
I know I should not ridicule Shultz but I am LOL at that one, Sam.
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Cute. Very adult.
“Michelle Obama Rouses NAACP Before Vote Condemning ‘Racist’ Elements of Tea Party”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/naacp-tea-party-civil-rights-group-considers-resolution/comments?type=story&id=11144640
I wish Rev. Manning could have been there.
Sign the Heritage Action petition to stop New START and protect American sovereignty and security now!
http://heritageforamerica.org/start-sign-the-petition/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=hf-natl-def-list&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=START%2BPetition
Obama to earn nearly 85 million from Gulf oil disaster.
“…But according to this FSB report the largest seller of BP stock in the weeks before this disaster occurred was the American investment company known as Vanguard who through two of their financial arms (Vanguard Windsor II Investor and Vanguard Windsor Investor) unloaded over 1.5 million shares of BP stock saving their investors hundreds of millions of dollars, chief among them President Obama.
For though little known by the American people, their President Obama holds all of his wealth in just two Vanguard funds, Vanguard 500 Index Fund where he has 3 accounts and the Vanguard FTSE Social Index Fund where he holds another 3 accounts, all six of which the FSB estimates will earn Obama nearly $8.5 million a year and which over 10 years will equal the staggering sum of $85 million…..”
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/79/527/Obama_To_Earn_Nearly_85_Million_From_Gulf_Oil_Disaster.html
This should get Soetoro’s violent bloody revolution under way. Holden’s Heroes try to spark long awaited Marxist revolution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtJVPPi_iAk
This is interesting!
I found this pfd file (Executive Branch Personnel PUBLIC FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORT) through a link highlighted in blue (holds all his wealth) in the above article “Obama To earn nearly 85 millions …).
Go to page 7 of the file (Schedule B), you will notice that O sold some of his inheritance from the Estate of his grandmother on 1/5/09 and 1/29/09.
The Questions is doesn’t one has to go through probate for 6 months or longer before one can touch his inheritance? Note: His grandmother died on 11/3/08 as reported. Or did she?
Click to access N00009638_2009.pdf
Democrat Governors Fret Over White House Illegal Alien Stance
What a shame and disgrace are Obama, Eric Holder and all the worms included in their team. They protect the criminals and attack the good guys. IE: Sheik Kalid Mohamid to be protected under the American Constitution, The Fort Hood massacre watered down to be described as the act of a post traumatic syndrome. Then, of course. the Black Panther voter intimidation charges thrown our by the DOIJ with the now known fact it is their policy to throw our all cases by black criminals with white victims. The dirty list goes on and on. So let these few examples suffice.
The Democratic Governors better be concerned what this biased, racist gang of worms is doing to this country and ultimately to their careers. If they had any sense they would be demanding Obama prove his eligibility.
NAACP to Vote Whether To “Condemn The Racist Tea Party Movement”
A lot of noise and hot air. Before the NAACP condemns anybody, they better start looking in their own back yard. Let’s start with the Black Panthers, then let’s go to Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan and his black Muslims, Let us not forget to include CAIR, and continue with Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the head of Acorn ad sick-a-nitetum. Then tell me how racist the Tea Party movement is.
What is worse is these people so angry at Caucasians don’t realize they are supporting a government that will enslave them. What is sick it is the white people who had worked to free them!
ARMY D.A.V.
5. What would happen to the country if it is ruled he is not eligible—NOTHING BUT GOOD AND IMPROVEMENT WILL COME TO AMERICA IF OBAMA IS ARRESTED AND TRIED.
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Agree with everything in the post except for the above quote .
And of course , there is nothing about holding the incumbents accountable for their crimes . I haven’t heard one candidate bring this up.
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I agree with you. The entire bunch of violators of their oath are as guilty as is O’Fraud and his worms. In my naive optimisitic way I believe one day America may see the entire can of worms being held accountable for their treasonous crimes. I am afraid I may not be around to see it on this planet. Maybe I will see it when I am in the after life.
I still believe the only good that will return to America is when Obama and his can of worms are removed and we can begin the long and ardous job of restoring America. That is the good I mean.
Cyber // July 12, 2010 at 4:20 pm
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Sounds like Insiders Shortsell which means every stockholder of BP and all people ruined by the oil disaster would have a case against Vanguard, BP and all involved. But the Government won’t do anything.
Lord Acton’s dictum –
“Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or certainty of corruption by full authority. There is no worse heresy than the fact that the office sanctifies the holder of it. “
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 12, 2010 at 2:29 pm
One of the underpinnings of the CGJ approach seems to be that all previous attempts were flawed and the CJG approach is sound so the court has to act. Irrespective of “soundness” the court does not “have” to do anything. If they were inclined to deal with this critical issue, they would have already done it.
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I agree. Memory goes back to the 2000 elections; I understand, however, that the attorneys involved requested the intervention of Supremes at that time. No doubt about it: THEY KNOW!! So…….. maybe they are waiting for the “right time” ?
Anyway, right now there is something that’s been brewing for a while, but BHO is counting on our being distracted with a multitude of other problems.
The Disclose Act is ominous indeed, because if passed, it will interfere with the election process in such a way that the Dems will benefit at the ballot box in Nov.
So there is more to watch than New Black Panthers and voter fraud. While our attention is on these violations, the Dems will try to sneak through the Disclose Act with the hopes that Repubs will not be able to launch any kind of legal challenge before the vote.
Read:
http://www.newsmax.com/GeorgeWill/Will-Disclose-elections-finance/2010/07/12/id/364355
Sam Sewell // @ 3:32 pm
Good answer and very subtle as well.
Shabazz instucts NPP to kill Cracker Cops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtJVPPi_iAk
Free Speech @ 5:10 pm
Little Shabazz reminded me of one of the black guys who worked in our shop in the Chicago suburbs, most of our shop employees came from the South Side-good jobs, paid well. The Shabazz guy got smart with one of the black grandmothers who worked there-she was a supervisor and a very strong lady. I don’t know what smart aleck comment he made to her, but the next thing I knew she had her hand around his neck saying “what did you say to me N word” as she bashed his head against the steel girder that supported the racks in the warehouse. I never saw him get smart with her again, a whole new respectful attitude. I told her I’m so glad you are my friend.
New ad from CDR Kerchner:
(Washington Times National Weekly edition – 2010-07-12 issue – pg 5)
http://tinyurl.com/23wal6o
I saw thousands of these punks in the Nashville Jail.
My Dad taught me how to get along with the Blacks that he hired in his business and my caregiver, Ellie, taught me as well. So in Jail, I made Black friends easily, but one punk threatened to “gas” me up one night. After I went to sleep my Black friends beat the hell out of the punk. The next morning he had his blanket over his head and he wouldn’t even get off his bunk to eat.
Btw, I never heard the N word more than when I was in Jail. Some used the N word and Mother F-er in every sentence.
I guess King Shabazz survived the Philly jail, but he will not survive very long in the Pen after he snitches on all his Panther pals and the prosecutors are done with him and the Aryan Nation has its way with him.
Cop killers die in Prison.
Erupts, boy did this unconscious (or pretending to be) politician hit a nerve.
http://www.breitbart.tv/democrat-congressman-unaware-of-the-new-black-panther-voter-intimidation-case/
A town hall meeting erupts when Democratic Congressman Brad Sherman claims to be unfamiliar with the New Black Panther Party case being dismissed by the Department of Justice.
Free Speech @ 5:53 pm
Yes I learned our shop folks had their own way of meting out justice. The worst instance was one of the girls a single mother of 5 children (sole support as far as we knew)-her boyfriend took a saucepan of bubbling brown sugar and dumped it all over her. It hit her face, neck and chest really bad. We took up a collection, we had very good insurance at work, I forget how long she was in the hospital. We just cried when she came back to work, you can just imagine the pain this poor woman went through. The black guys at work paid him a visit and he was advised to leave Chicago and never, ever come back there again.
I just don’t understand the black community! Black men have lost a large % of jobs because of Illegal Immigrant workers because they are competing for the same jobs in the same job markets according to the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. http://www.usccr.gov
Yet they have Sharpton and other Black leaders supporting Illegal Immigration and Amnesty for Illegals.
On the same government website you see USCCR sent AG Holder a letter requesting an investigation into ACORN VOTER FRAUD.
Now Fellons voted for Al Franken in MN and got him elected. I wonder what other MN races were affected?
Hillary filed camplaints about VOTER FRAUD during the primaries/ Caucus.
Maybe there’s a policy of NO investigations on Voter Fraud during Obama.
Michelle // July 12, 2010 at 6:11 pm
The punk is probably working for bo’s dept of injustice now.
Many former Democrats are trying to make things right in our country again, if we have to go through the Tea Party to do it, that is what we will do. We cannot support a corrupt DNC/Obama/DOJ. The country, our Constitutional Republic far and away before party.
Passionate Hillary Delegate Talks About Convention Speech
Fox News just reported – Olympia Snowe to vote FOR health plan.
Evidence of voter fraud aired on FOX only happens with the approval (or instigation) of TPTB who control FOX News.
Maybe the o. takedown has begun?
Maybe just warning shots? Letting o. know he’s expendable?
Maybe o.’ “usefulness” is over and TPTB needs to adroitly change the scene for the next act?
Maybe our citizen power is more effective than we know. Maybe the msm has to air more truthful news in order to maintain credibility?
It’s not about racism or hate , it’s about establishing a Marxist dictatorship…
Zinoviev, another high-ranking Bolshevik put it, “We must carry along with us 90 million out of the 100 million of Soviet Russia’s inhabitants. As for the rest, we have nothing to say to them. They must be annihilated.” As Paul Johnson observes, “There is no essential moral difference between class-warfare and race-warfare, between destroying a class and destroying a race. Thus the modern practice of genocide was born.” (Modern Times)
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) says:
July 12, 2010 at 5:39 pm
I know – it’s the MASONs ! ! Read Dan Brown’s latest book ! ! ! ! ! !
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You lost me on this one. Too many questions to begin to ask you, could you please clarify?
Thanks
I have not heard anyone talking about WHY Obama insisted on keeping his Blackberry – first president to ever be allowed use of a cellphone.
Really!
Just WHO is it that he speaks to that no one knows?
My guess: I think he’s doing his very own outreach to Muslims – NASA will expand on that.
Philo-Publius // July 12, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Video: Texas Dem blows up when challenged on ObamaCare
++++++++++++
ROFLOL
Well, we warned ’em. Millions of people stood in the streets and called out the warning.
They believed o. and their party instead of listening to the people.
So, “let them eat cake.” Payback time for constituents.
At least he didn’t assault the questioner like a certain Senator did. Is that Senator still in office?
When the issue is obaminable care, rage is the answer of choice and assault upon a citizen by a government employee is okay?
NO!!!
And the fact that he had so many foreign donations to his campaign (illegal) was simply swept under the rug …. there needs to be tighter watch on what happens during primaries and elections.
@Citizen Carlyle: you were asking why the documentary is suddenly taking off, even though it has been around for 2 years.
My answer to this question is that you can thank J Christian Adams. During his interview with Megyn Kelly Adams dropped that he was aware that there had been intimidation during the 08 primaries.
Even as an outsider I knew about this video and the intimidation. However, what is clear is that despite all efforts to be heard at the time the LSM would not touch the issue.
Now that the DoJ has insisted upon dropping the Black Panther case the issue suddenly has legs again.
ps to jbjd: although you might have some legitimate points about these caucuses, you failed to understand that the intimidation took place at the polling booths during the primaries. In other words there were the twin issues of the caucuses themselves where the hijinks occurred and the actual primary voting when people were turned away because of intimidatory tactics – that is a very serious matter.
Here’s a great article to hand out (or maybe read aloud) at Town Hall meetings, Tea Party gatherings, political rallies, etc., and to email to candidates, governors and other state officials.
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/04/entire-us-government-said-knows-obama-ineligible-for-office/
Mexican-born, naturalized citizen of the U.S.A., U.S. Army veteran that served in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, Hector Maldonado is now running for the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate Seat from Missouri.
But the Missouri Secretary of State demanded to see his birth certificate. Maldonado was surprised, but ceded to the request.
Maldonado said he asked Carnahan’s office if his citizenship documentation would be public record and available to anyone who wants a copy.
“They said, oh yes, absolutely, anyone that wants proof, we have it,” he explained. “I said, OK, can you do me a favor then? I’m sure Ms. Carnahan requested the same of Barack Obama when he petitioned to get on the Missouri ballot to become president.”
He added, “They had no response. They had nothing.”
http://tinyurl.com/264ef8h
WND:
“Senator: Resolve eligibility in court”
“A Republican senator from Louisiana, David Vitter, is suggesting the dispute over Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president be resolved in court.
“I support conservative legal organizations and others who would bring that to court,” the Associated Press reported a video of the event revealed him saying.
Vitter becomes just the latest high-profile leader, and the first U.S. senator, to take such a strong stand on the issue.”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=178321
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Associated Press:
“Republican senator says he backs birther lawsuits”
“Vitter, who is running for re-election, made the comments at a town hall-style event in Metairie, La., on Sunday when a constituent asked what he would do about what the questioner said was Obama’s “refusal to produce a valid birth certificate.”
Such claims about Obama’s birth certificate have been discredited. But with the crowd applauding the question, Vitter responded that although he doesn’t personally have legal standing to bring litigation, he supports “conservative legal organizations and others who would bring that to court,” according to a video of the event.
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Hawaii officials have repeatedly confirmed the president’s citizenship, and his Hawaiian birth certificate has been made public, along with newspaper birth notices published when he was born in 1961.”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5idZPacmZiyemguTJ30vEiQxrdepAD9GTQT280
Republican Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana says he supports conservative organizations challenging President Barack Obama’s citizenship in court.
Vitter, who is running for re-election, made the comments at a town hall-style event in Metairie, La., on Sunday when a constituent asked what he would do about what the questioner said was Obama’s “refusal to produce a valid birth certificate.”
Such claims about Obama’s birth certificate have been discredited. But with the crowd applauding the question, Vitter responded that although he doesn’t personally have legal standing to bring litigation, he supports “conservative legal organizations and others who would bring that to court,” according to a video of the event.
http://tinyurl.com/36uasba
GORDO it looks like we were both reading the same news articles.
NRA takes flak for ties with left
Critics cite a list of transgressions, from considering an endorsement of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), to endorsing moderate Republicans — and even Democrats — rather than their more-conservative challengers, to taking a cautious approach to Second Amendment court cases and President Barack Obama’s judicial nominees.
And they are especially angry about the group’s willingness to play ball with Democratic leaders on campaign finance legislation vigorously opposed by congressional Republicans, powerful business groups and nearly the entire conservative movement.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39591.html
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) says: July 12, 2010 at 2:20 pm William // July 12, 2010 at 6:06 am
The Roberts Court has signaled, in a very subtle manner …
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I don’t do “signal”. I don’t do “subtle”. That leaves the interpretation in the eyes of the beholder. i.e. promotes Wishful Thinking.
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I agree with you. However, the brief article was about the several cases heading for SCOTUS, including Obamacare, any single case would case a destruction of this administration, including, but not limited too…
I’d like to know exactly what Sen. Vitter has DONE to support “conservative legal organizations and others who would bring that to court.”
Out of tons of possibilities, I’d like to know what he is DOING right now, today, about the foreign usurper in the WH.
He doesn’t have to litigate. He can call for Congressional investigation.
What a humongous cop-out.
We still believe what these folks say? Especially when they are trying to get re-elected?
A.P.
“Such claims about Obama’s birth certificate have been discredited.”
Not! You’re way behind the story, A.P.
The discreditors have been discredited.
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/us-constitution-hall-of-shame/
U.S. Constitution
Hall of SHAME
Louisiana
Senator David Vitter
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A letter received from Senator David Vitter of Louisiana
regarding Barack Obama’s eligibility issues:
“Thank you for contacting me with concerns about President-elect
Barack Obama’s citizenship status. I appreciate hearing from you
on this important issue.
I am deeply concerned about many policies the incoming Obama
Administration may promote, including nominations of liberal judges
who do not follow a strict interpretation of the Constitution, higher
taxes on Louisiana families and businesses, fewer opportunities for
domestic energy production, and more. I will continue working in the
U.S. Senate against things like these and to promote policies that
will grow our economy and follow our Constitution.
As you know, Article II, Section I of the Constitution requires that
candidates for president must be natural born citizens, at least
thirty-five years old, and residents of the United States for fourteen
years. Hawaii state officials have verified that President-elect Obama
was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961, making him a natural born
citizen. To this point, the U.S. Supreme Court has refused to hear
cases contesting Obama’s citizenship status, leaving in place the lower
court rulings. I will continue to monitor this situation and any cases
on this matter in our courts.
Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this important issue.
Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future about other issues
important to you.
Sincerely,
Senator David Vitter
United States Senator”
In short,
I was merely pointing out that the Roberts court is highly ill (professionally pissed off) at obama and his administration. It will take only one of several cases headed their way to crumble this facade.
His past could be one of them, or the health care, or the AZ illegal immigration suit, ect…..any of which, the SCOTUS, will expose his stupidity.
If we are lucky enough, maybe his illegal holding of office. But any will due foe now, the rest will fall into place shortly thereafter.
In my opinon of course.
NEW Polarik video:
“FRAUD IN THE USA. Special Feature: “Hail to the Cheats!””
“This special feature focuses not only on the biggest liars of the online media, Factcheck and Politifact, but also the “fact-check” wannabes like Politico and Snopes. They have two things in common – (1) all of them THINK the American public is colossally stupid and gullible, and (2) they are all shilling for the Liar-In-Chief. Trouble is, more than half of the country NOW KNOW they have been betrayed – by gangster politicians and their equally corrupt and complicit media. Whatever it takes, we need to convince them to quit their day jobs.”
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDrRJP#p/c/10/JKs5n9G9uGA
GORDO // July 12, 2010 at 9:25 pm
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If Vitter is running for re-election, that means he was part of the senators that accepted oba without question. He had the chance to lodge an objection and have o vetted by the senate. He did NOT do so, Why is he questioning now??? Does re-election ring a bell??
Citizen Carlyle – 3:19 PM
You say,
“And contrary to FS assertions, I am not fishing for info about secret grand juries – I don’t “fish” – I am always forthright.”
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CC, it has dawned upon me (probably you, to0) that any general information is being held very close to the vest for, perhaps, a couple of reasons. One is the admonition that proceedings be kept secret. That is understood.
However, a side purpose in keeping absolutely ALL information away from us is so that if nothing works there will be no explaining to do. That motive could have a good side, because none of us would want to flaunt failures in trying to unseat the usurper.
So, maybe there is something really tangible going on, and maybe not. Patience we need!
Now, if there should be some movement forward that yields what we hope for, then there will be plenty of room for accolades. Just a thought.
ms. helga // July 12, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Fox News just reported – Olympia Snowe to vote FOR health plan.
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I’m confused. Didn’t that vote occur last March, or is this something else? (hard to keep track of everything)
Citizen Don – 10:30 PM
Does re-election ring a bell??
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Hi, CD! How are things doing over in the Golden State? Yes “re-election” rings a bell loud and clear. That can be multiplied over and over again now that campaign season is here. “Jail house conversion?”
Aussie, you are mistaken. The movie is only based on caucus fraud. Indeed, the opening promo on their blog emphasizes the unfairness of the caucuses by mentioning not the conduct at those caucuses but the disparity in votes/pledged delegate from caucuses versus votes/pledged delegate from primary votes.
Dr. Lynette Long compiled all of the statistical analysis anyone would want. This sounds like her data, although she is not credited.
Hawaii guv candidate member of socialist group?
Obama also closely tied for years to Marxist-oriented organization
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=178049
From WND,
A Republican senator from Louisiana, David Vitter, is suggesting the dispute over Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president be resolved in court.
“I support conservative legal organizations and others who would bring that to court,” the Associated Press reported a video of the event revealed him saying.”
Senator Vitter was responding to a constituent who on Sunday at a town hall meeting in Metairie, La., asked about Obama’s “refusal to produce” a “birth certificate.”
The AP reported the crowd applauded the question, and Vitter said he doesn’t have personal “standing” for litigation.
But he said he supports those groups that are bringing the question to court.”I think that is the valid and most possibly effective grounds to do it,” he said.
He said “first and foremost” Americans need to “fight the Obama agenda at the ballot box starting this fall.”
My personal response……..
1). Senator Vitter, you are a coward and a liar.
2) Senator Vitter, it is obvious by your quick responce, you are in fact aware of the issues and have been, without doubt, following the multiple legal challenges in courts pertaining to Obama’s eligilibility problems.
3). Senator Vitter, you are repeating what the courts have already said, and you are thus fully aware, this issue will never be resolved in a court by citizens, or as you further extend in your comments, “Those groups” that challenge the courts.
4). Senator Vitter, you claim you do not have personal “Standing” to do anything abount it. Again, this reaffirms my analysis that you have been closely following the multiple law suits, as they are failing on standing issues, and will continue to do so, as you know. However, this is a cop-out. YOU SENATOR DO NOT NEED STANDING TO FORCE OBAMA TO PROVE HIS ELIGIBILITY. You are lying and passing the buck, and you know it.
5). Lastly, you lying S.O.B., you again follow the Liberal courts decision and claim the way to overturn the Obama administration is at the voter box – excusing yourself for your crime of “Failure to preform your Ministrial Duties” as a Senator.
Again, you Senator Vitter, are a treasonous Coward, passing the buck where you know it will fail, whilst acting as a caregiver.
If you really backup your comments, then file for a full investigation. I doubt you will, Coward.
Cabby AZ,
Thank for moving my eariler post forward,
Cabby – AZ // July 12, 2010 at 11:37 pm
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We are still getting small shakes, but other wise, summer has arrived… 108 today.
I believe that vitter and a whole bunch of other cowards are beginning to find reason to question o’s eligibility. Too bad it is too late for them. They had a chance when the verified the electoral votes and didn’t say a word.
Thay could still speakup on the senate or house floor if they were serious. They are NOT serious.
This is old…just listen to the New Panther leader called her.
Shabazz vs. Malkin = Mayhem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9vadcdgzjI
Army D.A.V. 8:33 PM
It’s not about racism or hate , it’s about establishing a Marxist dictatorship…
Zinoviev, another high-ranking Bolshevik put it, “We must carry along with us 90 million out of the 100 million of Soviet Russia’s inhabitants. As for the rest, we have nothing to say to them. They must be annihilated.” As Paul Johnson observes, “There is no essential moral difference between class-warfare and race-warfare, between destroying a class and destroying a race. Thus the modern practice of genocide was born.” (Modern Times)
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You hit it exactly right! In fact, that’s what Communists have done wherever they operate – pit one race against another in order to bring chaos – so that a Marxist regime can be established. Yes, destruction of human life is most certain in order to accomplish their goals.
BHO is right on target. He is causing division between the states and federal government, between races, between rich and poor – All of it is to destabilize the country in order to radicalize it.
Although back in 2007 I knew BHO was a Marxist I had no idea that he would immediately rule from the far left.
ANOTHER OF THE THOUSANDS OS CRIMES AND IMPACHABLE OFFENSES OF BARACK OBAMA !!!
USURPER BARACK OBAMA’S IMPEACHABLE QUID PRO QUO’S …… TO TRADE JOB POSITIONS & FEDERAL GRANT MONEY (IN QUID PRO QUO’S) GIVEN TO TERRORISTS & FORMER CAMPAIGN DONORS – IN RETURN FOR THEIR CAMPAIGN DONATIONS, & ILLEGAL WORK, & ILLEGAL SUPPORT FOR HIS 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION & 2012 PRESIDENTIAL RUN!!
We Are Talking About A Beginning Start Up Capital of $49.2 MILLION DOLLARS For Ayers’ and Obama’s Challenge!!
“THE MANCHURIAN PRESIDENT”
*** “Yet Another Terrorist Tie To Obama White House” ***
*** “You Won’t Believe Who Won
‘Champion Of Public Interest” ***
Posted: July 02, 2010
12:00 am Eastern
By Aaron Klein
© 2010 WorldNetDaily
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=173641
Excerpts:
“Earlier this week, WND reported Moelis’ White House program appointed as one of its fellows Vartan Gregorian, a charity boss who served as a point man in granting $49.2 million in startup capital to Ayers’ and Obama’s Challenge.
(The hot new best-seller, “The Manchurian President,” by Aaron Klein, reveals inside story on Team Obama and its members. Now available autographed at WND’s Superstore!)
WND reported Gregorian was central in Ayers’ recruitment of Obama to serve as the first chairman of the Challenge Project – a job in which Obama worked closely on a REGULAR BASIS with Ayers.
Obama later touted his job at the project as qualifying him to run for public office, as WND previously reported.”
(snip)
“Moelis and her husband, Robert S. Rivkin, became financial bundlers and donors for Obama’s 2008 campaign as well as for the president’s previous runs for public office. They personally contributed to every one of Obama’s congressional campaigns since 1999, according to public records.
In 2008, Moelis and Rivkin were members of Obama’s presidential finance committee as well as bundlers committed to raising more than $200,001 for Obama.
In May 2009, Rivkin was sworn in as the 21st general counsel of the U.S. Department of Transportation.
Moelis, meanwhile, was appointed by Obama last April to head the president’s fellowship commission.
A White House statement announcing Moelis’ appointment fails to mention her work at the Challenge–funded Business and Professional People for the Public Interest.”
Read More In The Full Article Here:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=173641
ANOTHER ONE OF THE THOUSANDS & THOUSANDS ( AND EVENTUALY TRILLIONS $$$$$ OF DOLLARS) OF CRIMES AND IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES OF BARACK OBAMA!!!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=173641
Typos, sorry…..
EVENTUALLY not EVENTUALY
OF not OS
IMPEACHABLE not IMPACHABLE
Campaign for Liberty Declaration of Support
http://www.chooseliberty.org/fecattacks1.aspx?pid=fc14
Starla // July 13, 2010 at 12:15 am
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Thank you. Wink.
You should all pay attention to this:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/ap/debt-commission-leaders-say-all-must-be-considered-as-they-paint-gloomy-picture-for-governors-98204374.html
The only way to start paying off the debt is to create jobs but not by selling off more T-bills to China but to make it illegal to outsource jobs! If this became a National law, any company selling a product in the U.S. must manufactured it in the U.S. and likewise the same law should be adopted by the EU. This does not apply where a product is manufactured in a foreign country and it is a real imported product rather than being a domestic product manufactured offshore by cheap labor and then re-imported back to the U.S.
A 2 part law needs to be put on the books, the first is no hiring of non-citizens. If an employer is caught employing an illegal immigrants, the government will seize the company and will sell off its assets at auction. The second is all applications for citizenship will only take place in foreign countries via embassies, no amnesty will be given!
If you put these laws in place, all these illegal Muslims in Europe and all these illegal Mexicans in the U.S. will go home! With the law being passed about making it illegal to outsource jobs, the unemployment rate will immediately shrink! Also all these formerly cheap employers will see the benefits of hiring legal workers at livable wages. As more and more companies hire legal workers, the amount of money being added into the economy will be huge! At this rate, a more normal level tax rate across all income levels can be adapted rather than just taxing the rich (as in the past).
In the end, the EU and U.S. will no longer need to spend their way out of debt, they’ll just let their economies blossom and level more normalized rates of taxation to all income levels and before you know–they will have paid off their debts!
William // July 12, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) says:
July 12, 2010 at 5:39 pm
I know – it’s the MASONs ! ! Read Dan Brown’s latest book ! ! ! ! ! !
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You lost me on this one. Too many questions to begin to ask you, could you please clarify?
Thanks
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That was mostly tongue-in-cheek. However, it was precipitated by the following.
For centuries ‘everyone’ has thought the Masons were up to no good. This is mostly prompted by their extreme secrecy and by the fact that they are multi-national, seemingly unbound to any country. Many think they are scheming to take over the world. This again is prompted by several peculiar facts. The most notable being: 1) many very important people are Masons – including Founding Fathers; and 2) Masonic cryptic imagery is everywhere throughout officialdom – look at dollar bill for instance.
So, maybe it’s just me – but when anybody talks about some giant conspiracy – my mind always screams: M A S O N S ! ! !
Citizen Don in California // July 13, 2010 at 12:00 am
RE: Vitter, et al.
Amen!!
Tom W. // July 13, 2010 at 12:41 am
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Brilliant !
Which only means that they will not do it – but more likely something approaching the polar opposite.
William // July 12, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Well said!
(video) Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana says he backs birther lawsuits
To: jbjd,
“EYE-POPPER: IS NANCY PELOSI IN ON ELIGIBLITY COVER-UP? ONLINE IMAGES FOR CERTIFICATION OF NOMINATION RAISE QUESTIONS”
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=109363
Posted: September 11, 2009 – 8:01 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2010 WorldNetDaily
jbjd you said on: June 25, 2010 at 1:33 am
“Starla, you don’t know what you are talking about. For example, you say, “That is why Poisonous Viper Nancy Pelosi heinously signed 50 DNC form’s…” This simply is not true. Ms. Pelosi did not sign the Certifications that verified BO’s eligibility in all 50 states.”
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jbjd, Can you please read the article above?
When I told you, jbjd, that Nancy Pelosi did sign “50 DNC form’s” with her signature, I was telling you the facts and
I was correct. You did not believe me. You told me that I did not know what I was talking about.
The article listed herein will confirm to you that my statements to you are correct.
Nancy Pelosi did sign 50 DNC form’s.
When I told you, jbjd, that Nancy Pelosi did, in fact, sign 50 DNC forms, she did
indeed also send 50 DNC Certifications Of Nominations for Barack Obama out, one to each of the 50 states with her signature, to certify Barack Obama as the choice for the Democratic candidate for USA president for the DNC.
What I told you is the evidentiary factual records and truth of this. The article herein that I am providing here to you, jbjd, demonstrates to you clearly that I am correct, and you were wrong in your view that this did not happen.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=109363
Here Is An Excerpt From The Above Article:
“The DNC drafted, signed and notarized TWO slightly different versions of their Official Certification of Nomination documents, not one,” he wrote. “One of those documents had complete legal language, and one of them was missing the text concerning the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama.
[Emphasis added.]
“THE VERSION WHICH IS ABSENT ANY CERTIFICATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL STANDING FOR THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT IS THE VERSION THAT WAS FILED WITH EVERY STATE IN THE COUNTRY, AND THE ONE USED BY THE DNC TO ELECT BARACK OBAMA PRESIDENT,” HE WROTE.
[Emphasis added.]
WND contacted the Democratic National Committee multiple times over three days to request an explanation of the two images, including whether one might be a forgery. A spokeswoman in the press office confirmed, “We are aware of it,” but declined to elaborate.
Likewise, WND contacted the office of Pelosi, but got no response over several days. And the White House declined to respond to multiple e-mails asking for a comment.”
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jbjd, you can see that Nancy Pelosi did sign with her signature, file, and send 50 copies to the 50 states the DNC Certification Of Nomination, absent the Constitutional Eligibility Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 strict constitutional and legal eligibility requirement for Barack Obama.
IT IS CLEAR, NANCY PELOSI SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY ARRESTED, IMMEDIATELY REMOVED, AND IMMEDIATELY CHARGED FOR COMMITTING: Ruthless & Premeditated High Crimes, Sedition, & High Treasons, Heinous & Gross Obstruction of Justice, Gross Malfeasance & Misconduct Of Fiduciary Duties, Misprision Of Felonies, and other crimes in the greatest Serial Criminal Cover-Up of a Coup D’Etat WAR on the USA that ever happened against All Americans.
jbjd, for some reason you were saying & thinking Pelosi signed only one DNC form. I stated to you that she signed 50 of them. What I told you was correct according to the actual events that Nancy Pelosi performed, and thus, Pelosi has committed many crimes against the American people that are clearly detailed in evidence for you here, and that I reported to in the legal factual truth.
Michael Savage Attacks Mort Zuckerman Writing Obama’s Speeches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBmPXk9tegk&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBmPXk9tegk&feature=player_embedded
Sam Sewell // July 11, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Just saw your comment.
I’d never seen that interesting tidbit before.
Thanks.
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 13, 2010 at 12:29 am
Starla // July 13, 2010 at 12:15 am
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Thank you. Wink.
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Sgt. Schultz “I know nothing” Citizen Carlyle (FUBO), no need to wink & say thank you. I am not interested in your opinions.
Good Morning!
Andy and Grandy Morning show is talking about birth certificate.
http://radiotime.com/WebTuner.aspx?StationId=30888&
Starla, I make mistakes. But quoting WND as a source that supports your charges I am wrong is a huge mistake. They seldom get it ‘right.’ Ha, and not only that, the first materials they printed on the subject of differences in state Certifications of Nomination; had been stolen by another writer, directly from my blog! (He insisted someone sent him my documents anonymously.) (Where have you been?) And, because this person had only stolen the work but, adding insult to injury, hadn’t studied what he stole, he had no idea what was the significance, if any, of the different certifications and so, made it up!
I repeat, Nancy Pelosi did not sign all Certifications that got BO in the ballot in all states.
For example, NP did not sign the Certification that was submitted to election officials in Texas to get BO’s name on the ballot. Only Boyd Richie, Chair of the Texas Democratic Party, signed that Certification.
NP did not sign the Certification that put BO on the ballot in South Carolina; Kathy Hensley, Treasurer of the SC Democratic Party, swore, in her own handwriting, BO was qualified for office, as required by SC law. (This law is similar to the state law in HI.)
Individual states; individual laws. But know what? Swearing someone is “duly nominated” by the DNC is tantamount to saying, s/he is Constitutionally eligible for the job. Know why? Because the DNC rules say, the nominee must be Constitutionally eligible for the job.
And you would already know this, if you relied on my blog for the facts instead of WND.
In sum,let me repeat, it takes time to learn as much about our political process as the people who stole the election already knew. I took the time to learn, and published what I had learned on my blog. (Have you tried any of the 3 (three) “jbjd’s CIVICS for CITIZENS QUIZZES” posted there?) http://jbjd.wordpress.com
Senator: Resolve eligibility in court
‘I support organizations’ that raise birth challenge
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=178321
@jbjd
have you actually watched all of the documentary or just the opening portion.
I agree that the major emphasis is on the caucuses. That is quite clear. However, there is also mention of intimidation when people went to vote in the primaries.
In the video (not sure if it was in part 1) there is a black woman who was a civil rights activist. She witnessed people being turned away from the polling booth, not from the caucus meeting.
Also, there are issues of fraud that go beyond the statistics with regard to the caucuses. This includes the allegations of how people were tricked into leaving the meetings. There were several instances cited of this form of trickery.
This includes what took place at Iowa when Hillary supporters were tricked into not attending the caucus in Iowa, as well as the other issues that were detailed when people arrived wearing their Hillary Clinton buttons.
There are so many allegations of fraud and trickery as well as intimidation that had been cited.
From what I understand the documentary is not complete.
The issue you raise is also important, but it is only one part of the overall fraud that was perpetrated upon the public.
Here is an outline of the issues:
1. question of eligibility. Obama is not NBC because of dual citizenship; there are probably other reasons to be included with this issue including the actual place of birth. For now I will assume he was born in Hawaii but there is growing evidence of an earlier birth date in Kenya.
2. Nancy Pelosi committed fraud when she allowed Oboomboom to be on the ballot.
3. the intimidation at polling stations during the primaries.
4. fraud during the caucuses.
It should be enough to see Oboomboom impeached.
Cabby – AZ // July 12, 2010 at 11:32 pm
ms. helga // July 12, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Fox News just reported – Olympia Snowe to vote FOR health plan.
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I’m confused. Didn’t that vote occur last March, or is this something else? (hard to keep track of everything)
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Yes, the RINO Snowe already voted for Obamacare. This is probably what ms. helga was referring to:
Olympia Snowe Says She’ll Vote For Financial Reform
Dems Line Up Votes for Financial Overhaul as White House Shrugs Off Concerns
…have lined up enough GOP support to pass the measures in the Senate. Republican Sens. Scott Brown of Massachusetts and Olympia Snowe of Maine signaled Monday they would back the Senate financial overhaul bill, boosting its chances of passing this week.
http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/olympia-snowe.htm
http://www.onepennysheet.com/2010/07/olympia-snowe-says-shell-vote-for-financial-reform/
Mort Zuckerman Admits He Helped Write One Of Obama’s Speeches
http://tinyurl.com/29cn2nr
Michelle Obama Rouses NAACP Before Vote Condemning ‘Racist’ Elements of Tea Party
Tea Party members have used “racial epithets,” have verbally abused black members of Congress and threatened them, and protestors have engaged in “explicitly racist behavior” and “displayed signs and posters intended to degrade people of color generally and President Barack Obama specifically,” according to the proposed resolution.
http://tinyurl.com/25z732t
Former Democratic Rep. Neil Abercrombie, a close friend of President Obama noted for his role in the eligibility controversy and now running for governor of Hawaii, was listed as a member of a U.S.-based socialist organization.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=178049
jbjd // July 13, 2010 at 6:03 am
Starla, I make mistakes.
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Aussie,
It is best just to ignore, jbjd. Almost all of it is boBot disinformation, posted to create cognitive dissonance.
Read this:
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/02/winning-against-obots-and-astroturfers.html
We Will Not Be Silenced! St. Louis Tea Party Passes Resolution Condemning NAACP Racism
The St. Louis Tea Party Coalition passed a resolution last night condemning the racist attacks by the NAACP and the democratic-media complex.
Whereas, the National Coalition for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) was founded to advance the position of minority groups, and
Whereas a hallmark of the NAACP has been to do the important work of identifying and exposing remaining vestiges of racism and discrimination, and
Whereas the NAACP vocally stands against the discriminatory and harmful practice of labeling people with a broad brush, and
Whereas the NAACP decided to launch their 101st National Convention with a resolution condemning the Tea Party movement and labeling millions of their fellow Americans who subscribe to the movement as “racists”, and
Whereas the “Tea Party movement” is a label applied to patriotic Americans who have expressed their political free speech in the grand tradition of all that is American, that being the spirited expression of viewpoints in a 100% peaceful manner, and
Whereas, it is a hallmark of America that we settle our disputes civilly and avoid the gutter tactic of attempting to silence opponents by inflammatory name-calling, and
Whereas the very term “racist” has diminished meaning due to its overuse by political partisans including members of the NAACP, and
Whereas, the NAACP had an opportunity to preserve some semblance of legitimacy by standing up for Ken Gladney, the victim of a vicious racist battery conducted by a black avowed communist, even labeling him an “Uncle Tom”, but chose instead to use the opportunity to mock the St. Louis Tea Party, and
Whereas, the NAACP has refused to denounce the New Black Panther’s call to murder white cops and their babies, and
Whereas, the NAACP does its entire membership a grave disservice by hypocritically engaging in the very conduct it purports to oppose,
Now therefore be it resolved that the St. Louis Tea Party condemns the NAACP for lowering itself to the dishonorable position of a partisan political attack dog organization, and,
Be it further resolved that the St. Louis Tea Party calls on similar organizations to join in unanimous condemnation of this despicable behavior, and
Be it further resolved that we demand that the NAACP withdrawal their bigoted, false and inflammatory resolution against the tea party for any further consideration, and
Be it further resolved that these organizations call on the Internal Revenue Service to evenly apply their standards and consider the tax-exempt status of the NAACP considering the degree to which they are engaging in habitual partisan political behavior.
http://tinyurl.com/355tvbe
This resolution should have been passed by Congress.
Good morning everyone
Bill O’Reilly told his audience last night that in light of the false reports on the Arizona immigration law and the fact that the three media networks ignored the New Black Panther polling scandal, that the three media networks were not reporting the truth and their agenda today is to protect President Obama.
http://tinyurl.com/2cm4dpk
Considering how often O’Reilly defends Obama, I’m glad to hear him finally admit the alphabet media is an arm of the White House.
Issa wants answers on White House’s Google ties
http://tinyurl.com/24mk3fw
He may want answers but we all know Obama will not give them.
Wow, just Wow.
Barely had 2 cups of coffee and the name calling has already begun.
Simply Wow.
William @9:05,
My thoughts exactly.
Philo-Publius // July 13, 2010 at 7:38 am
Bill O’Reilly told his audience last night that in light of the false reports on the Arizona immigration law and the fact that the three media networks ignored the New Black Panther polling scandal, that the three media networks were not reporting the truth and their agenda today is to protect President Obama.
http://tinyurl.com/2cm4dpk
Considering how often O’Reilly defends Obama, I’m glad to hear him finally admit the alphabet media is an arm of the White House.
Philo-Publius // July 13, 2010 at 7:48 am
Issa wants answers on White House’s Google ties
http://tinyurl.com/24mk3fw
He may want answers but we all know Obama will not give them.
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U R right on both.
Richard,
I cannot get that theme song from the Dr. Pepper commercial out of my head, you know the that says; I’m a pepper, your a pepper, wouldn’t you like to be a pepper too….
Now replace “pepper” with “bobot”.
It’s just about the way it is, disagree with someones advice, opinion or paradigm and you’re a “Pepper”……
William @ 10:28,
I’m still waiting for Nosfaroto to answer the simple question that CC asked of him. I surmise that the question was too difficult.
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PS – One of the questions you can start with: Aside from trivial local or personal matters, can you cite even one case of a successful CGJ in the last 50 years? Especially one in which a prominent government official was tackled?
Tom W. // July 13, 2010 at 12:41 am
Your proposal has been presented many times and rejected as many.
Of course this country needs to hire its legal citizens to make our own ‘stuff’.
Kill two birds with one stome.
Now I have a question–
We all know that about ’40 or ’50, CONgress began using our taxed SS.
Trillions were stolen—WHERE DID THE TRILLIONS GO??
There is no way in hell all these reps, csenators, governors could have spent 50 trillions in 70 years.
I’d really like to know someone’s opinion of where that money went–even if it was only fiat currency, backed by nothing( spending air and being paid with air sort of balances out to air)–where did it end up??
Richard,
No, I cannot, and that is the problem. CC and Cabby AZ both are correct when they state their concerns and ask questions as well as yeild their personal analysis and opinions. They are directly reflecting my concerns and paradigm as well.
However, I also agree with freespeech’s analysis of the history of CGJ’s and it’s reasoning. But the legal system has changed and the laws need to change back and start recognizing the CGJ, the way it once was and as intended by our founding fathers including but not limited to john Jay and Marshall.
Now just because I said that, or CC and Cabby states the history and their concerns, doesn’t make us “fearfull obots, bowing on our knees”….
That kind of thinking is just assonine, and childish.
When I am called a bobot, or reffered or insinuated to such, it makes me want to say: Hey, look slightly to the South-East, on top of the hill, through the trees, it’s me on my back porch, can you see my hand signal to you?
Richard,
“can you cite even one case of a successful CGJ in the last 50 years? Especially one in which a prominent government official was tackled?”
Recent CGJ efforts are mostly PR ploys and are legally impotent.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/06/why-citizen-grand-juries-havent-worked.html
Grand juries also acted as a sword, seeking out corruption and preferring charges on their own. The classic example of a grand jury’s acting as a sword is a runaway grand jury in New York in the 1930’s; the grand jurors ignored prosecutors and embarked upon their own investigation into municipal corruption. They eventually began cooperating with Thomas E. Dewey, a prosecutor whom they felt they could trust, and returned indictments against a variety of defendants, including well-known Mafia members.
Citizens can form Grand Juries with or without the consent of any branch of the Judiciary, Federal or State. Furthermore, it means that any and all Federal or State Rules or Laws of Criminal Procedure are unconstitutional to the extent that they limit the formation of Citizen Grand Juries to prior or post approval by any Branch of the Judiciary, Federal or State.
The most unfortunate aspect of the modern grand jury is that because grand jurors tend to be ignorant of their role, they fall under the sway of prosecutors and, to use Sol Wachsler’s infamous phrase, are “willing to indict a ham sandwich” if asked to do so. The secrecy surrounding the role of the grand jury makes it very much a mystery to the general public; citizens’ only image of jurors comes from media and news portrayals of trial jurors, and trial jurors are entirely passive. This has subtly changed the functioning of grand juries over the last century or so, with the result being that they are far less independent than they used to be. This, in turn, is an unfortunate state of affairs, as it undermines the purpose of utilizing the “voice of the community.
However, sometimes prosecutors get bit by their own dog. A prosecutor in Arkansas was indicted for paying herself illegally.
by the Grand Jury she convened.
The laws haven’t changed. CGJ are still a power to be reckoned with but judges and prosecutors need to be re-educated.
Sam Sewell said,
CGJ are still a power to be reckoned with but judges and prosecutors need to be re-educated.
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Sam, i don’t have a problem with CGJ’s or with the Constitutionality of their history and as a citizens right.
What i have a problem with is how your friend has presented them, and himself.
This blog has a lot of sharp and poised Patriots here, who have been insulted, ridiculed, slandered, by your friend. Who on numerous occasions bears false witness.
The subject matter of the Common Law Grand Jury has been damaged here, along with his credibility.
As far as TIMING is concerned, and Time is of the essence isn’t it ?? I will attack on the State level in exposing the fraud committed.
How long will it take for you to re educate our judicial system and it’s appointed Judge’s ??
Sewell // July 13, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Richard,
“can you cite even one case of a successful CGJ in the last 50 years? Especially one in which a prominent government official was tackled?”
Recent CGJ efforts are mostly PR ploys and are legally impotent.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/06/why-citizen-grand-juries-havent-worked.html
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There are many examples of Grand Juries doing their duties are indicting corrupt politicians, 3 judges have been indicted in the last 20 years in Nashville alone. The most recent judge to be indicted by the Grand Jury was Tom w. Brothers for drug money laundering.
It is rare that a Grand Jury indicts a DA but it has happened in the celebrated case of Dutch Shultz, in the Nifong North Carolina case and in these recent cases.
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/614/police_drug_corruption
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/DN-medina_15tex.ART.State.Edition1.45a30ee.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_jury
Sewell // July 13, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Richard,
“can you cite even one case of a successful CGJ in the last 50 years? Especially one in which a prominent government official was tackled?”
Recent CGJ efforts are mostly PR ploys and are legally impotent.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/06/why-citizen-grand-juries-havent-worked.html
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Thank you for posting the excellent article on why the illegitimate AGJ grand juries have not worked:
“Why citizen grand juries haven’t worked up until now:
In short, sloppy legal work and overeager but clumsy and misinformed patriots.
There is a very important issue that isn’t being discussed. The obvious problem with AGJ is even if a presentment were accepted by a jurisdiction the first question a judge or prosecutor would ask would be; “How was this Grand Jury formed?” If the question were answered accurately one would need to reveal that a group of citizens with the desire to indict AKA Obama got together and indicted him. So the next question the judge would ask is, “So there was not a random selection of Grand Jury members to insure basic fairness and people found out that the purpose of the Grand Jury was to indict AKA Obama and that is why they volunteered to serve? Is that is how jury members were selected?”
And we would be forced to say, “Yes Your Honor, that is how it was done.” And the judge would rightfully say, “I can’t order a trial on the recommendation of a Grand Jury convened in that manner.” And the jeering would begin.”
For those who are skeptical of the power of the Grand Jury to operate independent of the prosecutor or indeed target a prosecutor. Take a look at this little tid bit:
Because grand juries are generally composed of ordinary citizens with no special training or experience in the law, they usually follow the lead of the prosecutor assigned to them. The classic complaint of defendants’ attorneys is that grand jurors would indict a ham sandwich if the prosecutor asked them to. But they don’t always do as the prosecutor wishes, as Jeannene Pacific, the district attorney in Jones County, Mississippi, discovered. Ms. Pacific became the target of her own grand jury when it sought to investigate over $35,000 paid by the county’s Worthless Check Unit to Pacific and her staff as “salary supplements.” Alarmed, Pacific asked the local court to forbid the grand jury’s actions. Although the local court did so, the Mississippi Supreme Court ruled that the grand jury had the power to investigate:
“The grand jury must be free to pursue its investigations unhindered by external influence or supervision so long as it does not trench on the legitimate rights of any witness called before it. The court generally cannot limit the grand jury, its legitimate investigation, interfere with its investigatory function, control the nature of its investigation, prohibit consideration of offenses within any particular class of crimes, stay its proceedings, dismiss a matter, or do various other things.”
Ms. Pacific and her assistant eventually repaid over $30,000.
Ex Parte Jones County Grand Jury, 705 So. 2d 1308 (Miss. 1997)
Sam Sewell @ 12:47
How long will it take for you to re educate our judicial system and it’s appointed Judge’s ??
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OK – guys enough smoke and peripheral information. Perhaps it was my fault if I was not clear. Let me try again:
1. We are all aware of the ‘normal’ Grand Jury that considers items brought by a prosecutor and issues indictments. We know they are constituted in every legal jurisdiction all over the country. And we know how it is done and the legal basis.
2. We also know that such a Grand Jury can become a “runaway grand jury” and pursue leads on their own without direction from the prosecutor. And we know of a few of those and the results.
3. We know that a ‘self initiated’ (my words) Grand Jury is provided for in the constitution. We also believe that at one time these may have been the more common type of grand jury.
4. We know that such Citizens Grand Juries have been indicated as obsolete in current legal doctrine and documents. We are not sure this actually prevents them – but it does indicate that the current ‘system’ is ill-prepared for them and would likely have no idea what to do.
5. NOW – THE MONEY QUESTION – We are not aware of any such CGJ ever being constituted and producing something broadly important for the last 60 years. Please advise if we are ill-informed. Just a single example would do for a start.
For those who like scenarios or stories, my concern can be told this way:
A guy walks into a court and plops down a folded piece of paper.
“Hey, we all just had a secret, private, under-the radar-Citizen’s Grand Jury – per the constitution – one that you didn’t know anything about until now. I was elected foreman and we just formulated this presentment. Where’s the in-box?”
Now – your mission is to speculate what happens next.
Or maybe even better – he twists the arm of the local news to come along and cover the action. Do you think they will show it on the evening news? Will they take it seriously?
You could trace the presentment paper trail from the table to the trash can, to the trash truck, and then out to the County land fill somewhere on the edge of town. No ??
CC, as usual U R, to use your words, ill-informed and as usual U cite no facts or laws to support your posts. I suggest you read the facts and law provided by Sam.
There are many examples of Grand Juries doing their duties and indicting corrupt politicians. 3 judges have been indicted in the last 20 years in Nashville alone. The most recent judge to be indicted by the Grand Jury was Tom w. Brothers for drug money laundering.
It is rare that a Grand Jury indicts a DA but it has happened in the celebrated case of Dutch Shultz, in the Nifong North Carolina case and in these recent cases.
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/614/police_drug_corruption
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/DN-medina_15tex.ART.State.Edition1.45a30ee.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_jury
Free Speech // July 13, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Sam Sewell // July 13, 2010 at 1:14 pm
For those who are skeptical of the power of the Grand Jury to operate independent of the prosecutor or indeed target a prosecutor. Take a look at this little tid bit:
Because grand juries are generally composed of ordinary citizens with no special training or experience in the law, they usually follow the lead of the prosecutor assigned to them. The classic complaint of defendants’ attorneys is that grand jurors would indict a ham sandwich if the prosecutor asked them to. But they don’t always do as the prosecutor wishes, as Jeannene Pacific, the district attorney in Jones County, Mississippi, discovered. Ms. Pacific became the target of her own grand jury when it sought to investigate over $35,000 paid by the county’s Worthless Check Unit to Pacific and her staff as “salary supplements.” Alarmed, Pacific asked the local court to forbid the grand jury’s actions. Although the local court did so, the Mississippi Supreme Court ruled that the grand jury had the power to investigate:
“The grand jury must be free to pursue its investigations unhindered by external influence or supervision so long as it does not trench on the legitimate rights of any witness called before it. The court generally cannot limit the grand jury, its legitimate investigation, interfere with its investigatory function, control the nature of its investigation, prohibit consideration of offenses within any particular class of crimes, stay its proceedings, dismiss a matter, or do various other things.”
Ms. Pacific and her assistant eventually repaid over $30,000.
Ex Parte Jones County Grand Jury, 705 So. 2d 1308 (Miss. 1997)
Sorry – more smoke and mirrors. I ask a question about A and you answer about B. Others here are seeing the same thing.
Please answer the question. It is you – not me – who needs to cite a case. I am asking if there has ever been a case of XYZ. Sorry, the onus is on YOU.
Quit badgering us with IRRELEVANT details.
I am not ill-informed about most things. However, I specifically and freely admitted I may be unaware of a successful CGJ that may have actually happened. I gave you the opportunity to inform and educate us. So far you have declined.
Your credibility is on a very steep slippery slope. You continue to refuse to answer the most fundamental questions.
You are not helping your cause by attacking Patriots and rational people just seeking answers they can understand.
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)
“OK – guys enough smoke and peripheral information. Perhaps it was my fault if I was not clear. Let me try again:”
Absolutely brilliant analysis!
There are some examples but they do not rise to the level you are asking for. That is the problem!
We need Citizen Grand Juries that do significant things in today’s world and that is my goal.
previously
Cabby, I don’t care if bo & co-conspirators are indicted by a standing Grand Jury, a special Grand Jury, a Federal Grand Jury, a State Grand Jury, a Citizens Grand Jury or whatever as long as bo & co-conspirators are indicted, convicted and imprisoned.
Notice that Justice Scalia doesn’t split any of the hairs that you are unsuccessfully attempting to split.
United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams: “Rooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history, the Grand Jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the three branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right…In fact, the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”
CC,
You keep asking the same old question expecting a different result. No one privy to secret Grand Jury info is going to give you any info. Regarding successful Citizen Grand Juries that have already indicted the info in all over the internet. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
Frankly, I don’t care if bo & co-conspirators are indicted by a standing Grand Jury, a special Grand Jury, a Federal Grand Jury, a State Grand Jury, a Citizens Grand Jury or whatever as long as bo & co-conspirators are indicted, convicted and imprisoned.
Notice that Justice Scalia doesn’t split any of the hairs that you are unsuccessfully attempting to split.
United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams: “Rooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history, the Grand Jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the three branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right…In fact, the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”
Richard
“How long will it take for you to re educate our judicial system and it’s appointed Judge’s ??”
My judges are elected.
The Feds are out of my equation. Always start at the local level. How long? Who knows.
But here is a start on how to do it:
http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009/05/presenting-obama-indictments-to.html
CC,
Fyi, since 1978 several demRat politicians have been indicted by Grand Juries in Tennessee: A dem governor, dem senator, 3 dem judges, and several other dems in lesser offices.
Clearly, U have not done much research on the recent history of successful Grand Jury indictments of democrat politicians.
Free Speech – After reviewing the exchanges here on this thread and subsequent ones for July 13th, I have come to a conclusion.
Back in 2009 you wrote a serious essay on the strength of and advisability of pursuing citizens grand juries as a means to accomplish judicial relief. I’ve read that and have respect for your thoughts.
Now nearly two years later you are expounding on this approach – many, many times, along with the assistance of Sam Sewell (Aristotle the Hun).
Naturally some of us have serious questions and have frequently brought them out publicly.
Usually your responses to our questions are either side-stepped, ridiculed, or subverted into something never asked. After a certain period of time – weeks and months, not just days – it is pretty easy to come to personal conclusions.
I won’t be so presumptive as to express my own conclusions, because that would not be proper. First of all, I do not have full knowledge of your own circumstances, and it would be patently unfair to make a public judgment.
Secondly, I don’t want to add beyond what is already evident – It’s unnecessary.
I have found that it is not productive to enter into discussions about the CGJ issue with you.
That will free you up to concentrate on other pressing, current matters. I’m always, however, interested in your views accordingly.
Others have and will come to their own conclusions.
Cabby – AZ // July 13, 2010 at 7:52 pm
In other words you don’t have an answer to this. I welcome a cessation of your personal attacks. Sad that you had to resort to personal attacks because the facts and law don’t support you.
Cabby, I don’t care if bo & co-conspirators are indicted by a standing Grand Jury, a special Grand Jury, a Federal Grand Jury, a State Grand Jury, a Citizens Grand Jury or whatever as long as bo & co-conspirators are indicted, convicted and imprisoned.
Notice that Justice Scalia doesn’t split any of the hairs that you are unsuccessfully attempting to split.
United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams: “Rooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history, the Grand Jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the three branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right…In fact, the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”