Harry Brown, Gun control, England, Criminals and totalitarian leaders always have guns, Open Thread, June 19, 2010

Harry Brown, Gun control, England, Criminals and totalitarian leaders

“It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government.”… Thomas Paine

 

First of all, I would like to thank my English ancestors for leaving England in the early 1700’s.

I watched the new movie “Harry Brown” last night. It stars one of my favorite actors, Michael Caine. As most of you know, guns are forbidden in England, unless, of course, you are a criminal. If you have any friends or acquaintances who are anti gun or inclined to follow our current totalitarian government down the path to slaughter, encourage them to see this movie.

159 responses to “Harry Brown, Gun control, England, Criminals and totalitarian leaders always have guns, Open Thread, June 19, 2010

  1. CW often refers to “1984″ and I agree with him that is what we are fighting against. I would just like to add “Clockwork Orange” to the list. For the younger here this was a Stanley Kubrick 1971 movie that showed the attempted takeover of a government by thugs. If you get a chance read this –

    “..a social satire dealing with the question of whether behavioral psychology and psychological conditioning are dangerous new weapons for a totalitarian government to use to impose vast controls on its citizens and turn them into little more than robots.[4]” – Stanley Kubrick

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_%28film%29

    PS – Change the word “robots” to “Obots”

  2. Good one, Helga.

  3. Philo-Publius

    Vote system that elected NY Hispanic could expand

    The court-ordered election that allowed residents of one New York town to flip the lever six times for one candidate – and produced a Hispanic winner – could expand to other towns where minorities complain their voices aren’t being heard.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/18/AR2010061803766.html

    If they expand this to a national level, our individual vote will not mean a thing anymore.

  4. Philo-Publius

    UPDATE ON DISCLOSURE ACT: Dems’ speech-limit plan hits rocky road in House

    An effort by Democrats to close down speech critical of their actions before it can impact the November elections is running into a rocky road in the U.S. House, where House Speaker Nancy Pelosi delayed action on the proposal while the party regroups and tries to assemble support.

    According to the Connie’s Congress column, “Democrats have been scrambling to shut down conservative political speech before the November elections this year since the January U.S. Supreme Court decision in ‘Citizens United v. FEC’ that found freedom of speech applies to everyone: individuals, corporations and unions.

    “Discontented with a more level playing field, Democrats threw together the DISCLOSE Act, a very lengthy and complicated piece of legislation designed solely to undo the court’s decision.”
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=168373

  5. ms. helga

    Mind control! Just like what Polosi, Reed, Dodd, Kerry, etc did all during president Bush’s term. They would constantly come before the cameras calling president Bush a liar and accuse him of every thing they could think of! Then we had the little liberal groups constantly doing their chants and making their awful signs and let’s not forget the MSM!
    Sorry to say a lot of people fell into the bash fest that was perpetrated on president Bush every day.

  6. Philo-Publius

    A new bill rocketing through Congress would give the president sweeping powers to police the Web for national-security reasons. The powers are granted to the White House under a bipartisan bill that was introduced in the Senate only last week but is already moving quickly through Congress toward passage. The legislation has generated considerable buzz on tech blogs—but drawn little notice so far by major news organizations.

    Wayne Crews, vice president of the Competitive Enterprise Institute, a free-enterprise think tank, said he believed the bill was so broadly worded that it might even allow the White House to take aim at whistleblowing websites”
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-06-18/new-bill-would-let-obama-police-internet-for-national-security-reasons/?cid=hp:exc

  7. citizenwells

    Philo-Publius.
    If they try to shut down internet opposition, I assume that you all
    will join me and others to continue spreading the word.
    I believe that and hope that a great many have pledged
    “their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor.”

  8. Free Speech

    zachjonesishome // June 19, 2010 at 7:13 am

    Bowling Green Man at Center of Obama Citizenship Controversy

    This was on google news search for tim adams.

    http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/96693159.html?ref=159

    Good Morning. Going to be at a tag sale all day for a not for profit my wife and I are involved with.

    Have a great day!
    ***********************************

    It appears the next boBot tactic will be to say anyone who thinks that the NBC Presidential Qualifications Clause should be enforced is a racist and that bo is qualified to be POTUS despite the fact that he was born in Kenya to a Father who was not a US Citizen and a mother who was to young to transfer her citizenship to him.

    Notice how this dumb reporter doesn’t even question Tim Adams false premises regarding bo’s citizenship.

  9. Alex Updates Us on Rob Dew’s Report of illinois Guard working with Polish Troops to Take Guns

  10. Free Speech

    Philo-Publius // June 19, 2010 at 8:50 am

    Is there any doubt that this bill is designed to shut down sites like CW?

    Notice that the bill is bi-partisan and is quickly headed for passage. Right after cutting off our means of communication, bo will declare Martial Law. We will be left with two options: 1. Grand Juries 2. Civil War.

    There are no political options left. Although I applaud the Tea Parties, we will not have Free Elections, Free Speech or a Free Republic come November.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/06/patriots-choice.html

  11. Philo-Publius

    citizenwells
    If they try to shut down internet opposition, I assume that you all
    will join me and others to continue spreading the word.
    I believe that and hope that a great many have pledged
    “their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor.”

    —————————
    Of course CW, we patriots need to stick together. Its probably time to get a short wave radio. Folks under communists regimes used them to communicate and share information as the dictators blocked or took control of all media outlets.

  12. On my last post you will see that Franklin Roosevelt was a “staunch Democrat” and Vincent Astor was a “staunch Republican” which begs the question – What does “Staunch” mean?

  13. Remember The Golden Rule – HE who has the gold RULES.

  14. The origianl Kenyan birth certificate of Obama–

    Authenticated

  15. Socialism is a ruthless minority police state dictatorship designed to seize and hold onto political power. The only way this minority can continue to oppress and exploit a much larger unwilling majority is through state sponsered police state terrorism. It is imperitive for them to disarm that majority and render them defenseless.

  16. Here we have Chicago-style deal-making once again, only this time a good conservative organization, NRA, was a party to sell out the free speech rights of the rest of us. READ THIS IMPORTANT ARTICLE:

    1ST AMENDMENT UNDER FIRE
    Dems’ speech-limit plan hits rocky road in House
    Pelosi delays floor vote amidst fracas over carve-out for NRA

    (excerpt)

    While moving forward, it still needed additional support, and in recent days a “carve-out” was created that would have exempted the National Rifle Association from its demands, allegedly in exchange for the NRA dropping its opposition.
    But analysts say the move backfired, since the Internet ignited with criticism of the organization’s “deal with the devil” and other less-complimentary descriptions.

    For the entire story:
    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=168373

  17. Good Morning….keep fighting the good fight. Prosecute the criminals already….

  18. frank // June 19, 2010 at 9:59 am

    Socialism is a ruthless minority police state dictatorship designed to seize and hold onto political power. The only way this minority can continue to oppress and exploit a much larger unwilling majority is through state sponsered police state terrorism. It is imperitive for them to disarm that majority and render them defenseless.
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    You are correct. After bo cohorts falsely arrested me they illegally confiscated all my guns.

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville/

  19. Margie // June 19, 2010 at 10:04 am

    Good Morning….keep fighting the good fight. Prosecute the criminals already….

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    Amen!

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

  20. Is there really any politician we can vote for in November, that we can trust to honor and abide by what the constitution says, if they are not now vehemently speaking out against Barry because he is an illegal alien usurper?

    At this point, I don’t know of any politician who I would vote for.

  21. Philo-Publius // June 19, 2010 at 8:44 am

    UPDATE ON DISCLOSURE ACT: Dems’ speech-limit plan hits rocky road in House
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    I remember reading the same sort of thing about bo’s “health care.” bo got boCare passed and he will get his bill to shut down the internet shut down too before the end of Summer, probably just after the 4th of July.

    July 4, 2010 will be our last Independence Day unless Patriots take action NOW and form Grand Juries.

  22. UpstateWarrior // June 19, 2010 at 10:21 am

    Is there really any politician we can vote for in November, that we can trust to honor and abide by what the constitution says, if they are not now vehemently speaking out against Barry because he is an illegal alien usurper?

    NO. We Patriots no longer have a political solution to this constitutional crisis. Although I applaud the Tea Parties, we will not have Free Elections, Free Speech or a Free Republic come November. If Patriots don’t act now we will be under Martial Law in November.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/06/patriots-choice.html

  23. Glenn Beck Loses Half His Audience

    “In January 2010, he had over 3.7 million viewers. On February 24, 2010, his viewers declined to 2.4 million. By June 16, 2010, Drudge Report has Beck’s viewers down to 1.9 million. In other words, in five months, Beck lost 1.8 million or 48.64%, that is nearly half of his viewers!

    On Jan. 4, 2010, Beck used the derisive word “birthers” to refer to those who question why Obama continues to refuse to release his long-form birth certificate. Even worse, Beck calls us stupid, referring to the ”birther thing” as ”the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.””

    read the whole thing at
    http://beforeitsnews.com/news/81/649/Glenn_Beck_Loses_Half_His_Audience.html

  24. Recently I reread parts of the out-of-print book, “None Dare Call It Treason”,
by John A. Stormer, who wrote it in the early 1960’s. I have followed his
work for many years; and since we are now facing a crisis, in my opinion, I find
that the information in that book is very timely. In fact, I just reread that quote
from Sen Jenner’s remarks, which are more true now than ever. Here is another
one from 1954: “The American people may be confused about minor issues.
They may accept for a time so-called remedies for very real difficulties, which
eat away at the foundation of their liberties. But once they recognize any act of
government or party or faction as a threat to their Constitution they will rise up
in determined anger…..In times of danger to the Constitution there can be no
partisan differences between the historic political parties which work under the
Constitution…The line of division today is between real Democrats and real
Republicans on one side in defense of the Constitution, and on the other the
secret revolutionaries and those they have brainwashed in their ruthless
pursuit of power.”

  25. I kind of wish this were brought up when someone waves that phony colb of Obama’s around and calls it proof.

    “Maya Soetoro was born to Indonesian businessman Lolo Soetoro and American cultural anthropologist Ann Dunham and half-sister to the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama. While living in Indonesia, she was home schooled by her mother and then attended Jakarta International School and returned to Hawaii and attended the private Punahou School in Honolulu, Hawaii, graduating in 1988.

    Besides being the First Sister Maya has a HawaiiaCertification of Live Birth despite be born in Jakarta Indonesia.”

    http://www.examiner.com/x-14143-Orange-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m7d27-Did-you-know-Obamas-half-sister-born-in-Indonesia-has-a-Hawaiian-Certification-of-Live-Birth

  26. On Jan. 4, 2010, Beck used the derisive word “birthers” to refer to those who question why Obama continues to refuse to release his long-form birth certificate. Even worse, Beck calls us stupid, referring to the ”birther thing” as ”the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.””
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    Glen Beck did some good in exposing ACORN, but he like most in the MSM can not get the simple concept of NBC. I will not call them DUMB but clearly they have some sort of mental problem.

    Here’s the Definition of NBC:

    Friday, May 7, 2010
    AKA Obama Ineligible if he was born on the steps of the Capital in D.C.

    Preface by Leo Haffey, an attorney from Nashville:

    When I first began writing about the “Natural Born Citizen” qualification for the Presidency, few lawyers had an understanding of what I meant. Fewer still, had read the basis for that Constitutional language derived by our Founding Fathers from Vattel’s Law of Nations. At the time of its publication, Vattel’s Law of Nations was used as a textbook in colleges in the United States and Europe. Furthermore, it was the principal legal treatise used by our Founding Fathers in writing our Constitution. To this day, the Law of Nations is still used as a reference text by such legal scholars as Justice Antonin Scalia.

    The following is the passage from Law of Nations that was used as the definition for a Natural Born Citizen by our Founding Fathers:

    “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

    Now what part of Vattel’s clear and concise Definition of a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN do Communists, Socialists, Liberals and Democrats not understand?

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html

  27. On Jan. 4, 2010, Beck used the derisive word “birthers” to refer to those who question why Obama continues to refuse to release his long-form birth certificate. Even worse, Beck calls us stupid, referring to the ”birther thing” as ”the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.””
    *************************************

    Glen Beck did some good in exposing ACORN, but he like most in the MSM can not get the simple concept of NBC. I will not call them DUMB but clearly they have some sort of mental problem.

    Here’s the Definition of NBC from The Steady Drip:

    Friday, May 7, 2010
    AKA Obama Ineligible if he was born on the steps of the Capital in D.C.

    Preface by an attorney from Nashville:

    When I first began writing about the “Natural Born Citizen” qualification for the Presidency, few lawyers had an understanding of what I meant. Fewer still, had read the basis for that Constitutional language derived by our Founding Fathers from Vattel’s Law of Nations. At the time of its publication, Vattel’s Law of Nations was used as a textbook in colleges in the United States and Europe. Furthermore, it was the principal legal treatise used by our Founding Fathers in writing our Constitution. To this day, the Law of Nations is still used as a reference text by such legal scholars as Justice Antonin Scalia.

    The following is the passage from Law of Nations that was used as the definition for a Natural Born Citizen by our Founding Fathers:

    “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

    Now what part of Vattel’s clear and concise Definition of a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN do Communists, Socialists, Liberals and Democrats not understand?

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html

  28. I think Glen Beck did some good in exposing ACORN, but he like most in the MSM can not get the simple concept of NBC. I will not call them DUMB but clearly they have some sort of mental problem.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html

    Here’s the Definition of NBC from The Steady Drip:

    Friday, May 7, 2010
    AKA Obama Ineligible if he was born on the steps of the Capital in D.C.

    Preface by an attorney from Nashville:

    When I first began writing about the “Natural Born Citizen” qualification for the Presidency, few lawyers had an understanding of what I meant. Fewer still, had read the basis for that Constitutional language derived by our Founding Fathers from Vattel’s Law of Nations. At the time of its publication, Vattel’s Law of Nations was used as a textbook in colleges in the United States and Europe. Furthermore, it was the principal legal treatise used by our Founding Fathers in writing our Constitution. To this day, the Law of Nations is still used as a reference text by such legal scholars as Justice Antonin Scalia.

    The following is the passage from Law of Nations that was used as the definition for a Natural Born Citizen by our Founding Fathers:

    “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

    Now what part of Vattel’s clear and concise Definition of a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN do Communists, Socialists, Liberals and Democrats not understand?

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html

  29. NO. We Patriots no longer have a political solution to this constitutional crisis. Although I applaud the Tea Parties, we will not have Free Elections, Free Speech or a Free Republic come November. If Patriots don’t act now we will be under Martial Law in November.

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    We should however prepare to fight against martial law, should it be imposed on us. One way to prepare a fighting plan against anyone who comes to impose martial law in America, is for the patriots to get off the public grid and find an effective way to communicate with each other without the snooping ears listening in.

    I also think the words of Colonel John Mosby will be a help to many of us in this present time:

    “My purpose was to weaken the armies invading Virginia, by harassing their rear… to destroy supply trains, to break up the means of conveying intelligence, and thus isolating an army from its base, as well as its different corps from each other, to confuse their plans by capturing their dispatches, are the objects of partisan war. It is just as legitimate to fight an enemy in the rear as in the front. The only difference is in the danger …” John S. Mosby

  30. Free Speech, I viewed the Tim Adams video you posted at 8:57 am, and got the eerie feeling Tim Adams is an obot. The things he says go right down the list, at answering every question ever raised about Obama’s eligibility. Seems a little fishy to me, and the part about Obama’s and McCain vetting by congress is a little too convenient.

  31. What is socialism? Socialisma is Evil…

    We miss the boat if we say it’s the agenda of those left-wingers and Democrats. According to Marxist doctrine, socialism is a stage of society between capitalism and communism where private ownership and control over property is eliminated. The essence of socialism is the attenuation and ultimate abolition of private property rights Attacks on private property include, but are not limited to, another to whom it doesn’t belong. When this is done privately we call it theft. When it’s done collectively we use the euphemisms: income transfers or redistribution.

    Regardless of the purpose such behavior is immoral. It’s a reduced form of slavery. After all what is the essence of slavery? It’s the forceful use of one person to serve the purposes of another person. When Congress, through the tax give it to another person in the forms of prescription drugs, social security, food stamps, farm subsidies or airline bailouts, it is forcibly using one person to serve the purposes of another.

    The moral question stands out in starker relief when we acknowledge that those spending programs coming out of Congress do not represent lawmakers reaching into their own pockets and sending out the money. Moreover, there’s no Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus giving them the money. The fact that government has no resources of its very own forces us to acknowledge that the only way government can give one American a dollar is to first through intimidation, threats and coercion take that dollar from some other American.

    Some might rejoin that all of this is a result of a democratic process and it’s legal. Legality alone is no guide for a moral people. There are many things in this world that have been, or are, legal but clearly immoral. Slavery was legal. Did that make it moral? South Africa’s apartheid, Nazi persecution of Jews Stalinist and Maoist purges were all legal but did that make them moral?

    Can a moral case be made for taking the rightful property of one American and giving it to another to whom it does not belong? I think not. That’s why socialism is evil. It uses evil means (coercion) to achieve what are seen as good ends(helping people). We might also note that an act that is inherently evil does not become moral simply because there’s a majority consensus.

    An argument against legalized theft should not be construed as an argument against helping one’s fellow man in need. Charity is a noble instinct; theft legal or illegal is despicable. Or, put another way: reaching into one’s own pocket to assist his fellow man is noble and worthy of praise. Reaching into another person’s pocket to assist one’s fellow man is despicable and worthy of condemnation.

    For the Christians among us, socialism and the welfare state must be seen as sinful. When God gave Moses the commandment “Thou shalt not steal”, I’m sure He didn’t mean thou shalt not steal unless there’s a majority vote. And, I’m sure that if you asked God if it’s okay just being a recipient of stolen property, He would deem that a sin as well,

  32. I read CW daily. Don’t usually comment, and I’m hoping I posted this link properly. The video is in regard to the Chester County NY illegal voting that a judge has legalized for the latino people only. Please view it. It further explains the report above from Publius. How can we allow this type of corruption? This is what we will have to fight in coming elections. Pass it forward. Make em all aware. We can’t afford to continue to allow these reps to bully us and shred the Constitution via the word “Diversity”. We all need to be “Unapologetically AMERICAN”. Thank you CW for providing this site.

  33. We should however prepare to fight against martial law, should it be imposed on us. One way to prepare a fighting plan against anyone who comes to impose martial law in America, is for the patriots to get off the public grid and find an effective way to communicate with each other without the snooping ears listening in.

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    There are 3 factions among Patriots that need to unite in our Constitutional Cause:

    1. The Patriot Lawyers who have been working hard since 2008 to inform Patriots about the NBC issue and the 4th Branch of our Government, the Citizens Grand Jury system. There is no need for us to go underground since everything we are doing is legal and constitutional. Furthermore, we must continue to inform and debunk the constant attacks from boBots who are out to confuse and divide Patriots.

    2. Tea Party Groups definitely do not need to hide. To the contrary their public demonstrations have been instrumental in educating Patriots about the NBC issue. Now is the time for the Tea Party Movement to unite with the Citizen Grand Jury Movement to take our Country back before bo puts us under Martial Law.

    3. Those Patriots calling for Armed Revolution. These groups need the clandestine communications about which your refer.

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

  34. bob strauss // June 19, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Free Speech, I viewed the Tim Adams video you posted at 8:57 am, and got the eerie feeling Tim Adams is an obot. The things he says go right down the list, at answering every question ever raised about Obama’s eligibility. Seems a little fishy to me, and the part about Obama’s and McCain vetting by congress is a little too convenient.
    ***********************************

    Actually, I was not the one to first post that tim adams video. I merely re-posted it. I understand your concerns. However, I do not see how tim adams saying there is no Hawaiian BC helps bo. Regardless, it is imperative that this issue be brought before SCOTUS ASAP. Wouldn’t you agree?

  35. Free Speech, Actually, I was not the one to first post that tim adams video. I merely re-posted it. I understand your concerns. However, I do not see how tim adams saying there is no Hawaiian BC helps bo. Regardless, it is imperative that this issue be brought before SCOTUS ASAP. Wouldn’t you agree?
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    Yes I do agree, we are long over due and every one of our legislators need to act or resign.

  36. bob strauss // June 19, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Free Speech, Actually, I was not the one to first post that tim adams video. I merely re-posted it. I understand your concerns. However, I do not see how tim adams saying there is no Hawaiian BC helps bo. Regardless, it is imperative that this issue be brought before SCOTUS ASAP. Wouldn’t you agree?
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    Yes I do agree, we are long over due and every one of our legislators need to act or resign.
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    Yes & Tea Partiers need to continue to go after those rinos who have failed to act to remove bo. Grand Jurors need to INDICT the bo co-conspirators in their States.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

  37. Since SCOTUS has original jurisdiction over Constitutional issues, such as NBC we should be focusing our attention on SCOTUS to act. They have Leo Donofrio”s case sitting in front of them, we need to pressure them to act. Also 3rd circuit has Mario Appuzo’s case, the courts need to ACT.

  38. Maj. Gen. Paul E. Vallely:” We need to demand resignations of Obama, his cabinet, and members of Congress “»
    Over at the Post & Email is an interview with Gen Vallely, where he spells out how to rid ourselves of the illegal government. The General is not bashful in the least, it’s a patriot’s view of Obama and his regime.

  39. This is just part of what Orly Taitz has posted at her site about Obama.
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    Lastly, my favorite, Jan Brewer can send AZ state police, sheriffs and AZ National Guard to secure the border, deport the illegals and send Obama the bill for the cost of effectuating immigration laws, border patrol and expenses of providing health care and education to illegals and their children. If Obama does not pay, she can use her inherent executive powers and AZ state powers of eminent domain to take in eminent domain federal holdings in Az and to put a lien on all IRS Federal government payments of the citizens of AZ in lieu of the moneys owed to AZ by the federal government. If Obama doesn’t like it, he is welcome to come to AZ for a talk and (I love it, drums please) I will be there with Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Sheriff Richard Mack to serve him with an eligibility law suit and a complaint to the sheriff’s department seeking to verify his legal status in light of the fact that he never unsealed his long form birth certificate with the name of a doctor and the name of a US hospital where he claims to be born, and in light of the fact, that he is sitting in the White House using Social Security number 042-68-4425, issued in the state of CT to an individual who was born in 1890.

  40. bob strauss // June 19, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    The only way to get a case before SCOTUS quickly is through the Grand Jury process.

    It is noteworthy that it has been over a year and a half since I first began to write about the Citizens Grand Jury Process and Original Jurisdiction in the Supreme Court of cases against Barrack Hussein Obama and, to date, BHO’s lawyers have never been able to refute my Constitutional Theories.

    The precedent for getting standing and bringing a case directly to the United States Supreme Court upon Original Jurisdiction is the landmark case of Marbury v. Madison 5 U.S. (1 Crunch) 137, 2 L.Ed. 60 (1803). As succinctly stated by Chief Justice Marshall in Marbury, “If a persons duty is backed by law and not by political in nature, then he becomes subject of the law and is examinable by the court.”

    Article III, Section 2 of the United States Constitution states, “In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction.”

    Marbury was a case involving a minor public minister. The case against Barrack Hussein Obama involves all “Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls” of the United States and of all foreign nations with diplomatic status with the United States. Furthermore, the case against Barrack Hussein Obama involves all States of the United States as parties.

    As in Marbury, We the People shall prosecute our cases against Barrack Hussein Obama petitioning the United States Supreme Court for a Writ of Mandamus compelling Barrack Hussein Obama to abide by the Constitutional Contract that he entered into with We the People on January 20, 2009 and uphold his Oath to abide by the Supreme Law of the Land, the Constitution of the United States of America.

    It is stated in United States v. Butterworth, 18 S. Ct. 441, 169 U.S. 600 at 602 (1898),
    “The office of a writ of mandamus is to compel the performance of a duty resting upon the person to whom the writ is sent. That duty may have originated in one way or in another. It may, as alleged in the present case, have arisen from the acceptance of an office which has imposed the duty upon its incumbent. But no matter out of what fact or relations the duty has grown, what the law requires, and what it seeks to enforce by a writ of mandamus, is the personal obligation of the individual to whom it addresses the writ.”

    Following much good faith research regarding the issue of original jurisdiction in the Supreme Court of the United States, We the People have found no cases in the history of jurisprudence of the United States of America wherein a Defendant disputed the Constitutional fact that the Supreme Court of the United States has original jurisdiction over “all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls” as plainly stated in the Constitution of the United States, Article III, Section 2.

    That being the case, “We the People” respectfully request that the Barack Hussein Obama stipulate to the fact that the Supreme Court of the United States has original jurisdiction over all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; or, in the alternative, that Barack Hussein Obama show good cause why the Supreme Court of the United States shall not have original jurisdiction

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

  41. Fernley Girl

    UpstateWarrior // June 19, 2010 at 11:17 am

    We should however prepare to fight against martial law, should it be imposed on us. One way to prepare a fighting plan against anyone who comes to impose martial law in America, is for the patriots to get off the public grid and find an effective way to communicate with each other without the snooping ears listening in.
    ************
    I tried almost 1 1/2 years ago to address the issue of communication. Got crickets from this forum. Name any form of communication NOT controlled by the government. Short wave radio, TV, AM & FM radio…FCC. Telephone, snail mail? And soon they will control the internet. And, with the way the electric companies are tied together it wouldn’t be hard to shut down entire cities to create utter chaos and completely shut off all the usual sources of news.
    FedEX & Brown may be usable for a time, as well as CB’s and walkie-talkies, but it would not be hard for the government to shut them down during martial law, either. You should all be building LOCAL networks of people you can trust to work with you during a national or local crisis. Talking to each other in person, and printing/distributing flyers may be our only options.

  42. bob strauss

    Free Speech, I like! Great material,all we need now are some judges willing to work for the people instead of a paycheck from Obama.
    All judges currently overseeing cases in the courts should recuse themselves. They can’t be fair when they are threatened with the loss of pay and position, if they don’t favor Obama.

  43. Confirm:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

    While we were watching the oil spill, the New York failed terrorist bombing and other critical crises, Hillary Clinton signed the small arms treaty with the UN.

    OBAMA FINDS LEGAL WAY AROUND THE 2ND AMENDMENT
    AND USES IT

    On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a
    Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States

    On Wednesday the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States . The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened.

    Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This has happened in other countries, past and present!
    THIS IS NOT A JOKE NOR A FALSE WARNING.
    As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control. Read the Article U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush’s administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better. View The Full Article Here

    Click on the link below for further confirmation:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

    Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. This is a very serious matter! Silence will lead us to Socialism!!!

  44. Just for some perspective — Drudge displays a Russian new reserve currency they propose with China — the CIA is responsible for comparing the relative strength of the world’s economies. As I recall, Russia’s size is between 35 and 40, and China is between 85 and 90 in the rankings.

    The Euro and the Dollar comprise about 85% of the world’s hard currency.

    The reason the Chinese are growing so fast, is because they are performing like a penny stock — high rates of return off of pennies on the dollar.

    There are experts in economics who believe that both Russia and China are on the verge of an economic collapse — and are kept afloat only by US and European expatriate investments.

    U.S. business and investors have more than $12 Trillion invested overseas.

  45. MUST READ ARTICLES

    “Obama & Co Steps Up USA Destruction Before November Elections”

    Saturday, June 12, 2010

    By Sher Zieve

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/24196

    # # # #

    “Lies, Lies…and More Lies”

    By Sher Zieve Friday, June 11, 2010

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/24159

    # # # #

    To Find Author Sher Zieve’s MUST READ EXCELLENT Articles Click On The Link Here:

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/1/Sher%20Zieve

    # # # #

    Why Won’t Obama Lift The “Jones Act?” to save the USA Gulf natural ocean water, all of the animals from extremely torturous agonizing deaths, to save the environment, and to save the USA American citizens billions of dollars in environmental water, land, and business losses in damages?

    Keith Hennessey, the former White House economic advisor to President George W. Bush put up a blog post that everyone should read.

    “How To Waive the Jones Act”

    http://keithhennessey.com/2010/06/18/how-to-waive-the-jones-act/

    # # # #

    AMERICANS MUST UNITE AND MUST DEMAND AND FORCE THE REMOVAL of the Foreign Born Domestic Enemy Illegal Alien Usurper Barack Obama who truly was NOT born in Hawaii, and who was truly born in Mombasa in Kenya, Africa, who is currently using the STOLEN SOCIAL SECURITY # 042-68-4425 from the state of Connecticut that was previously issued to a deceased man who was born in 1890.

    I am TRULY WARNING AMERICANS, the man sitting 100% Illegally and 100% Unconstitutionally in our White House is:

    (1) NOT even a legal USA citizen today.
    Barack Hussein Obama was factually and truly born in Mombasa in Kenya, Africa.

    Barack Hussein Obama is TODAY DEFINITELY committing many Daily Felonies, many Daily High Crimes & Many Daily Treasons in the USA against ALL 400 + Million USA American Citizens.

    (2) Barack Hussein Obama is simply using Chicago and International Gangster Daily deliberate lies, intimidation, threats, bribes, secret back door deals, and murders, (the murders of three of his former gay lovers in Chicago, etc., the murder of Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., who was cooperating with investigators about Obama’s passport fraud and the scrubbing breech of Obama’s Foreign Passport, and other murders, etc) to try to prevent anyone from ATTACHING HIM & EXPOSING HIS CRIMES!!

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport-fraud-case-fatally-shot

    (3) We The People simply must stand up and DEMAND the Immediate Arrest of this Serial Criminal Gangster Imposter Foreign Born Domestic Enemy Usurper Communist/Marxist Radical Islamic Muslim Terrorist Usurper named Barack Hussein Obama II/Barry Soetoro who is a DAILY SERIAL DELIBERATE LIAR and a
    CONSTANT SERIAL CRIMINAL NON-USA CITIZEN and who has LITERALLY DECLARED a Coup D’Etat WAR on ALL American Citizens on January 20, 2009 because this Insane Sociopath Psychopath Constant Deliberate Liar Illegal Alien Barack Hussein Obama II is TRULY & FACTUALLY a Communist/Fascist/
    Marxist Radical Islamic Muslim Non-USA Citizen 100% Illegal Alien who is working diligently daily to OVERTHROW the USA Republic government!!

    EVERYTHING the Illegal Alien Serial Criminal Con-man Barack Obama is doing in America is (1) Absolutely Destructive to America and is meant to literally DESTROY THE SOVEREIGNTY OF THE USA REPUBLIC GOVERNMENT, so he can install his Barack Obama “FOR LIFE Totalitarian Dictatorship!!” (2) EVERYTHING Barack Obama is doing in the USA is 100% Illegal and 100% Unconstitutional!!

    That is why I am saying, AMERICANS DEMAND AND FORCE THE IMMEDIATE ARREST of the Illegal Alien Serial Criminal Foreign Born Domestic Enemy Usurper Total and Complete Fraud Con-Man, Barack Hussein Obama, who is working to DESTROY our United States Of America, our lives, and our futures in the FREE USA, as the Illegal Alien Foreign Born Usurper Barack Obama is working to enslave all of us in Communist/Marxist Islamic slavery in America!!

    Wake Up Quickly Americans!!

  46. Free Speech

    Fernley Girl // June 19, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    FedEX & Brown may be usable for a time, as well as CB’s and walkie-talkies, but it would not be hard for the government to shut them down during martial law, either. You should all be building LOCAL networks of people you can trust to work with you during a national or local crisis. Talking to each other in person, and printing/distributing flyers may be our only options.
    ***************************************

    I agree form local networks. Hopefully we can get bo & his local co-conspirators removed by the Grand Jury process before bo declares Martial Law. If not we can still regain control of our local County Governments.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

  47. Free Speech

    bob strauss // June 19, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Free Speech, I like! Great material,all we need now are some judges willing to work for the people instead of a paycheck from Obama.
    All judges currently overseeing cases in the courts should recuse themselves. They can’t be fair when they are threatened with the loss of pay and position, if they don’t favor Obama.

    ***************************************

    You are correct about US Federal judges they work for and are appointed for lifetime judgeships by bo. That is why I have always advocated indicting bo & his co-conspirators in State Court where Judges are elected to judgeships. We the people have the power to INDICT, CONVICT & IMPRISON any local State judge who has committed CRIMES on behalf of bo.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

  48. Free Speech

    DABIG // June 19, 2010

    As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control.
    *****************************************

    And so will the Diclose Act to outlaw Free Speech in the United States.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/06/patriots-choice.html

  49. Here is a video of Obama saying he was born in Kenya…I have never seen this before…its in thei first 30 seconds.

  50. Free Speech

    JJ,

    From Orly’s Original Blog

    A Natural Born Citizen…Orly?

    A discussion of the Obama Eligibility Controversy, with a call to action!

    Monday, February 2, 2009

    A few good men by EA Leo

    Please post as article by EA LEO

    A Call for a few Good Men & Women to Unite for Our Country

    To find standing the Court need look no further than the Preamble of the Constitution of the United States, “We the people of the United States in order to form a more perfect Union… do ordain and establish this constitution for the United States of America.” Thus, “we the people,” individually, are established as one party among many to a contract binding upon the executors of this contract, our Constitution.

    Who then are the executors of this contract with the people?

    “We the people” in this cause assert that anyone and everyone who takes Oath to be bound by our Constitution becomes a party to this agreement.
    Foremost among the parties counterbalanced upon this executory contract is the President of the United States, the Chief Executive or Executor of the Constitutional Contract.

    When is the President bound to this contract, our Constitution? “We the People” contend that he is bound immediately, upon the taking of the Oath. In the instant case, Barack Hussein Obama became bound to our Constitutional Contract on January 20, 2009.

    As in the cause of Marbury v. Madison 5 U.S. (1 Crunch) 137, 2 L.Ed. 60 (1803), “We the People” seek fullfillment of our executory contract, our Constitution, by way of a Writ of Mandamus upon the executor by oath of said contract, the President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama.

    As succinctly stated by Chief Justice Marshall in Marbury, “If a persons duty is backed by law and not by political in nature, then he becomes subject of the law and is examinable by the court.”
    Thus, Barack Hussein Obama, having bound himself contractually by law to our Constitutional Contract is subject to the jurisdiction of the law, in this case the original jurisdiction of the United States Supreme Court.

    It is stated in United States v. Butterworth, 18 S. Ct. 441, 169 U.S. 600 at 602 (1898),

    The office of a writ of mandamus is to compel the performance of a duty resting upon the person to whom the writ is sent. That duty may have originated in one way or in another. It may, as alleged in the present case, have arisen from the acceptance of an office which has imposed the duty upon its incumbent. But no matter out of what fact or relations the duty has grown, what the law requires, and what it seeks to enforce by a writ of mandamus, is the personal obligation of the individual to whom it addresses the writ.”

    Following much good faith research regarding the issue of original jurisdiction in the Supreme Court of the United States, “We the People” have found no cases in the history of jurisprudence of the United States of America wherein a Defendant disputed the Constitutional fact that the Supreme Court of the United States has original jurisdiction over “all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls” as plainly stated in the Constitution of the United States, Article III, Section 2.

    That being the case, “We the People” respectfully request that the Barack Hussein Obama stipulate to the fact that the Supreme Court of the United States has original jurisdiction over all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; or, in the alternative, that Barack Hussein Obama show good cause why the Supreme Court of the United States shall not have original jurisdiction over our cause.

    Posted by Orly Taitz, DDS Esq. at 1:08 PM

    – Chalice Carpenter
    This is exactly what is needed. Where do we sign up to be part of this WE THE PEOPLE lawsuit?

  51. Bob Strauss………………………………………………

    Regarding Tim Adams I am in complete agreement with you. I got the same feeling when i read what was said. I look upon him as possibly deceptive,and frankly a bit trite.

  52. 68truthseeker

    Robert Gibbs Is Asked About Obama’s Connecticut Social Security Number

  53. 68truthseeker

    Obama’s Social Security Number(s) – Jerome Corsi on the Jeff Kuhner Show – 5/18/10

  54. 68truthseeker // June 19, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    Obama’s Social Security Number(s) – Jerome Corsi on the Jeff Kuhner
    ********************************************

    It is just staggering.
    And wouldn’t we assume that the fbi, secret service, whoever(?) knows all about this?

    I don’t know whether these poeple in the secret service etc have seen obama’s real birth certificate or not. Certainly they are aware that this his birth has never really been proved.
    But, they ABSOLUTELY MUST be aware of this ssn fraud.

    UNBELIEVABLE!

  55. Free Speech……………………………………………

    As long as the SCOTUS,and ALL of the Federal Courts are under occupation of criminal judges, no Citizen’s Grand Jury action will be heard. We need to FIND another way to force the convention of a FEDERAL GRAND JURY. We need to do a lot of research on the subject. I personally believe that where there is a will there is a way. We need to be ready in November. There is going to be wholesale slaughter of Democrats, in both houses. Once we have regained control of Congress,or have regained a substantial gain of seats then we immediately petition for the Convention of a Federal Grand Jury. It only requires a few determined Senators,and Congressmen. I believe that they WILL cooperate. If we don’t get off our duffs,and act then it is probable that we will never have another opportunity to act before 2012,at which point free elections could be a thing of the past. But I do agree with you that if we simply sit and talk NOTHING is going to happen.

  56. Bob (AGJ) didn’t want me to publish this but I did anyway (secretly) but now it can become public.

    Presenting Obama Indictments to Authorities

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009/05/presenting-obama-indictments-to.html

    Tips on Presenting Obama Indictments to Authorities

    Also:
    Bounty Hunters, Soldiers of Fortune, and Mercenaries for God

    GIVEN THE GENERAL LEVEL OF INACTION AND INCOMPETENCY OF GOVERNMENTS EVERYWHERE THIS SHOULD COME AS NO SURPRISE! THERE ARE OTHER LOCAL GROUPS DEALING WITH GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION AND ADMINISTERING “POSSE”* JUSTICE.

    *Posse comitatus or sheriff’s posse is the common-law authority of a county sheriff or other law officer, or PRIVATE CITIZENS to conscript any able-bodied males to assist in keeping the peace or to pursue and arrest a felon; compare hue and cry. Originally found in English common law, it is generally obsolete, and survives only in America, where it is the law enforcement equivalent of summoning the militia for military purposes.

    Are you a Dew Drop Warrior?

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009/03/welcome-are-you-dew-drop-warrior.html
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/06/bounty-hunters-soldiers-of-fortune-and.html

  57. Free Speech

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009/05/presenting-obama-indictments-to.html

    Getting together to examine evidence of possible crimes by politicians and presenting evidence of such alleged crimes to the judiciary is “the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

    While citizen convened Grand Juries are not common in modern times they still have the full force of the Constitution and law. Educating modern prosecuting attorneys and judges may be necessary. Here is a law professor’s statement on Grand Juries.

    “Grand juries also acted as a sword, seeking out corruption and preferring charges on their own. The classic example of a grand jury’s acting as a sword is a runaway grand jury in New York in the 1930’s; the grand jurors ignored prosecutors and embarked upon their own investigation into municipal corruption. They eventually began cooperating with Thomas E. Dewey, a prosecutor whom they felt they could trust, and returned indictments against a variety of defendants, including well-known Mafia members.

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009/05/presenting-obama-indictments-to.html

  58. DABIG………………………………………………………..
    There is a serious problem to Soetoro’s attempt to negate the 2nd amendment. It takes at least 3/4 of the states to approve it. He will never get such approval,and if he tries to do this WITHOUT repealing the 2nd amendment he will find himself looking down the sights of the AMERICAN PEOPLE. I personally believe that WE THE PEOPLE have long since HAD ENOUGH of SOETORO, and such an illegal anti gun action would be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. The outcome will not be pretty.

  59. Asked to pass this on.

    The Tesla Haarp Plan

    Simplicity

    “Any Patriot now doing anything to Protect and Empower the country’s People and the Constitution shall focus their Action at a Frequency Peaking at the 1st of each Month.”

    Needed:

    1. Self Appointed Activity coordinators to help concentrate United Action on ALL lawful Fronts at one time!

    2. Self Energized Patriot’s doing what they are doing now, only, Better and Rhythmically climaxing at the 1st of each month!

    P.S. Will somebody post this over at CW’s. I have issues with the management, but there are some patriots over there that may advance ‘The Tesla Haarp Plan’.

  60. Soetoro can’t seem to get it through his head that the AMERICAN people are not quite as submissive as he thinks. When it really soaks in that we are about to lose our 2nd amendment rights, then ALL BETS are OFF. There will be open warfare,and he can try to impose Martial LAW, but WHO GIVES A DAMN about a Soetoro declaration. You tear it up and jamb the remainder up the messenger’s butt, and THEN chamber a round to accomodate the next messenger. In short we THE PEOPLE are WITHIN OUR RIGHTS TO RESIST A TYRRANICAL GOVERNMENT, and (WITH FIREARMS IF NECESSARY). He cannot take away our firearms without having first REPEALED the 2ND AMENDMENT. This is why most of us know that he was raised essentially OUT of the US. He hasn’t the SLIGHTEST idea as to how Americans will behave. HE WILL LOSE,ALONG WITH THE COWARDS,AND DIMWITS IN CONGRESS WHO FANCY THEMSELVES AS DEITIES OF SOME SORT. THEY TOO ARE GOING TO COME CRASHING TO EARTH. MANY HAVE ALREADY ABANDONED SHIP! AS THE DAYS TO NOVEMBER DIMINISH WE WILL SEE HUNDREDS ABANDONING SHIP. IN THEIR LITTLE MINDS THEY THINK THAT THIS WILL KEEP THEM SAFE FROM PROSECUTION. THEY COULD NEVER BE MORE WRONG. EACH OF THE BASTARDS WHO SUPPORTED,AND/OR PERPETRATED TREASON AGAINST WE THE PEOPLE WILL BE HUNTED DOWN,AND BROUGHT TO JUSTICE , JUST AS THE MOSSAD DID SO EFFECTIVELY AFTER WW2.

  61. #

    oldsalt79 // June 19, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    DABIG………………………………………………………..
    There is a serious problem to Soetoro’s attempt to negate the 2nd amendment. It takes at least 3/4 of the states to approve it. He will never get such approval,and if he tries to do this WITHOUT repealing the 2nd amendment he will find himself looking down the sights of the AMERICAN PEOPLE. I personally believe that WE THE PEOPLE have long since HAD ENOUGH of SOETORO, and such an illegal anti gun action would be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. The outcome will not be pretty.
    ********************************
    oldsalt79,

    I’m in 100% agreement with you, sir. Yet again we’re not dealing with representatives who use the Constitution.

  62. It would seem that if Soetoro used a phoney Social Security number on his selective service registration then he has committed still another Federal Crime. He has LIED to the Selective Service, which was then an Arm of the Federal Government. Probably still prosecutable.

  63. Free Speech

    Aristotle,

    Thank you for posting this most informative Article about the power of the Citizens Grand Jury.

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009/05/presenting-obama-indictments-to.html

  64. Philo-Publius

    The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations.

    ——————————————————
    The treaty power in the Constitution is discussed in The Federalist Papers, numbers 64 written by John Jay, and 75 written by Alexander Hamilton. Those discussions clearly indicate that the term ‘treaty’ is used in the Constitution to refer to a bargain or contract between two independent sovereign nations pertaining to subjects that are customarily and traditionally considered to be treaties. The Founders did not intend for the Supremacy Clause to supersede any provisions in the Constitution.

    “[a] treaty cannot be made which alters the Constitution of the country or which infringes any express exceptions to the power of the Constitution of the United States.”
    — Alexander Hamilton

    “The only constitutional exception to the power of making treaties is, that it shall not change the Constitution….On natural principles, a treaty, which should manifestly betray or sacrifice primary interests of the state, would be null.”
    — Alexander Hamilton, The Works of Alexander Hamilton, 1796

    “I say the same as to the opinion of those who consider the grant of the treaty making power as boundless. If it is, then we have no Constitution.”
    — Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Wilson Cary Nicholas; The Works of Thomas Jefferson, September 7, 1803

    “In giving to the President and Senate a power to make treaties, the Constitution meant only to authorize them to carry into effect, by way of treaty, any powers they might constitutionally exercise.”
    — Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1793. ME 1:408

    “Surely the President and Senate cannot do by treaty what the whole government is interdicted from doing in any way.”
    — Thomas Jefferson: Parliamentary Manual, 1800. ME 2:442

    “By the general power to make treaties, the Constitution must have intended to comprehend only those objects which are usually regulated by treaty, and cannot be otherwise regulated….It must have meant to except out of those the rights reserved to the states; for surely the President and Senate cannot do by treaty what the whole government is interdicted from doing in any way.”
    — Thomas Jefferson, A Manual of Parliamentary Practice, p. 110. 1873

    “I do not conceive that power is given to the President and the Senate to dismember the empire, or alienate any great, essential right. I do not think the whole legislative authority have this power. The exercise of the power must be consistent with the object of the delegation.”
    — James Madison

    “[T]hough the power is thus general and unrestricted, it is not to be so construed as to destroy the fundamental laws of the state. A power given by the Constitution cannot be construed to authorize a destruction of other powers given in the same instrument…A treaty to change the organization of the Government, or to annihilate its sovereignty, to overturn its republican form, or to deprive it of its constitutional powers, would be void; because it would destroy what it was designed merely to fulfill, the will of the people.”
    — Chief Justice Joseph Story, ,Limitations on the Treaty-Making Power (5th ed. 1891), Commentaries on the Constitution, Section 1508

    Case law: (the controlling precedent)

    In 1957, in Reid v. Covert, the Supreme Court clearly ruled that constitutional guarantees cannot be abolished by either treaty or statute, stating:

    “…no agreement with a foreign nation can confer power on Congress, or on any other branch of Government, which is free from the restraints of the Constitution.”

    There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with provisions of the Constitution. Nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification of the Constitution which even suggests such a result. These debates as well as the history that surrounds the adoption of the treaty provision of Article VI make it clear that the reason treaties were not limited to those made in ‘pursuance’ of the Constitution was so that agreements made by the United States under the Articles of Confederation, including the important treaties which concluded the Revolutionary War, would remain in effect. It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights – let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition – to construe Article VI as permitting the United States to exercise power under an international agreement without observing constitutional prohibitions.

    “There is nothing new or unique about what we say here…This Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty.”

  65. Philo-Publius // June 19, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    ********

    Nice find!

  66. Dabig……………………………………………

    It is irrelavent if we are dealing with people who don’t follow Constitutional law. They are nothing more than CHEAP,SLIMEY criminals who are trying to use Chicago style intimidation of the American people. That is one reason why I recently reactivated my M1 rifle. When they try to impose an ILLEGAL action on me those who try will pay dearly. Of course this is my choice. Again HE CANNOT REMOVE ANY OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WITHOUT FIRST REPEALING THE AMENDMENT,and if he tries to do it via MARTIAL LAW I again will resist because, 1. He can’t legally impose martial law to begin with. 2. the Constitution allows me to protect my rights that are GUARANTEED by the Constitution. 3. He is NOT a LEGAL sitting POTUS,therefore he is NOTHING. I do not regard him as a legal POTUS. When he shows me the CERTIFIED LEGAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE THAT IS EXACTLY LIKE THOSE OF THE NORDYKE TWINS, then I might consider an alternate view of him.

  67. He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat-
    He is sifting out the hearts of men before his judgement seat-
    Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer him! Be jubilant my feet;-
    Our God is marching on!
    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah our God is marching on.

  68. #

    oldsalt79 // June 19, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat-
    He is sifting out the hearts of men before his judgement seat-
    Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer him! Be jubilant my feet;-
    Our God is marching on!
    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah our God is marching on.
    ****************
    Keep the powder dry oldsalt79!

  69. The Battle Hymn of the Republic is music that I hold dear to my heart. I first learned it in grade school in the late thirties. When ww2 began our teachers saw to it that each day was begun with the pledge of allegiance, and a 1 or 2 minute reading from the Holy Bible. Often during a school month all grades were assembled in the gymnasium, and the school music director led us in singing such songs as The Battle Hymn of the Republic,America,and others. NOBODY EVER SUED THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR ANYTHING. EVEN CORPORAL PUNISHMENT of their children. Perhaps when all of that STOPPED, is where we began to get in to trouble. I attended a COUNTY PUBLIC GRADE SCHOOL.

  70. Philo-Publius

    “Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, to plainly prove a deliberate systematical plan of reducing us to slavery.”
    — Thomas Jefferson, Rights of British America, ME 1:193, Papers 1:125. July 1774

  71. Free Speech

    oldsalt,

    Why haven’t you organized a posse to arrest BSbo? You advocate armed force don’t you?

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/06/bounty-hunters-soldiers-of-fortune-and.html

    Btw you a dead wrong about advocating for action against bo in Federal court. Did you fail to read the many posts regarding the fact that Federal judges are appointed by bo?

    The proper way to convene a local State Grand Jury is described here:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/03/two-ideas-to-empower-patriots-by.html

    To further clarify the point: If you live in a County with a Conservative Constitutionalist Attorney General, by all means see if you can get the Attorney General’s cooperation in presenting your criminal information against BO & his co-conspirators to the Grand Jury, i.e., you don’t need to bypass the Attorney General if he is on your side, the side of Our Constitution.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

  72. Free Speech

    Philo-Publius // June 19, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    “Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, to plainly prove a deliberate systematical plan of reducing us to slavery.”
    – Thomas Jefferson, Rights of British America, ME 1:193, Papers 1:125. July 1774
    ************************************************

    Yes and all of those “Single acts of tyranny” are indictable offenses.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/06/patriots-choice.html

  73. Philo Publius……………………………………………

    You are so kind as to post the exact words from which I gather my strength. I thank you for this and dearly hope that everybody will feel a renewed spirit from your post. I have read the same laws and believe in them with all that I have. The criminal in DC cannot legally command our MILITARY forces, or LEGALLY impose ANY of his BS EXECUTIVE ORDERS upon us. NOR CAN HE IMPOSE ANY other of his blatantly ABSURD bills upon us even though they have passed both houses. I am referring to the ALLEGED HEALTH CARE, CAP AND TRADE,ETC. We have a Constitutional right to resist all of his MANURE.

  74. In short,Soetoro’s behavior tells me that he had to have been raised out of the US. This only lends great strength to our belief that he is a USURPER, AND THEREFORE NOT ENTITLED TO THE RESPECT OF ANY AMERICAN,WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS ALLEGEDLY SWORN IN AS THE POTUS. IF HE HAS NOT QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION THEN HE IS NOT THE POTUS OF THE US. AT PRESENT THE US HAS NO LEGAL POTUS. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KEEP THIS FOREMOST IN YOUR MINDS. THE ALLEGED POTUS IS NOTHING, AND THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.

  75. TruthSeeker

    I’ve said it before OldSalt,

    BO if fully aware of his Kenyan/Muslim heritage through his father. That was the very reason the Founders specicified the NBC clause in the constitution. BO doesn’t give a fig about America or its institutions. He has every intention of reducing us into a Marxist, Muslim African style despotism.

    P.S. On the gun issue, does anyone know of the NRA’s response on this? Have they been informing their members of this possibilty?

  76. Exactly…Barack? is an American Citizen as well as a Kenyan citizen…dual citizenship’s !!!! The CIC calls for a Natural Born American Citizen. I am losing my patients..nearing 2 years…and he is partying like there is no tomorrow….PROSECUTE TODAY!!!! So I can party…..

  77. Old Salt

    You have mail………..

  78. Free speech………………………………….
    What makes you think that I havn’t been taking action? You do not live here and have no insight as to my day to day activity. To so imply tells me that you have some sort of control mentality. Keep GUESSING SONNY. You really don’t know the half of it, and WON’T until I decide to tell you what I am doing, which probably will never happen. Your continued thorn in the side sort of attitude towards everyone here on the blog seems to say that you are pretty much still a child. Have you ever been involved in our military services? I think not. I seriously doubt if you know the butt of a rifle from the muzzle. I recently read one of your comments where you called your weapons “GUNS” which you alleged were confiscated. Was the weapons returned to you? In the military a rifle is just that,and a sidearm is just that. The “guns” are for another purpose.I wonder how you would behave in the face of an enemy bearing weapons. I have done these things and was fortunate enough to live to tell you about it. I also have my DD214s to back up what I say. But I will never show them to you. I don’t have to, because as long as I know why I have them along with my other service related documents is enough for me . Besides I likely served either before you was born, or while you was in kindergarten.. I have travelled over a million miles of our planet, in both the military and as a civilian. I have enjoyed the fruits of my PEACEFUL labors, and raised two sons, both of whom have served in our military forces. Both have formal educations,and both are successful in private business ventures today.
    I made my contribution to your safety, and perhaps it is time for you to do what you have been advocating, and return the favor to all of us vets who served in the Korean war,and before.

  79. For OldSalt –

  80. and in recent days a “carve-out” was created that would have exempted the National Rifle Association from its demands, allegedly in exchange for the NRA dropping its opposition
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And these members really believe they will remain exempt from this speech infringement if the bill is passed????
    LOL

  81. TruthSeeker

    The law has a reason and a purpose, doesn’t it, Margie?

    Thanks for having my back!

    🙂

  82. Free Speech // June 19, 2010 at 10:09 am

    frank // June 19, 2010 at 9:59 am

    Socialism is a ruthless minority police state dictatorship designed to seize and hold onto political power. The only way this minority can continue to oppress and exploit a much larger unwilling majority is through state sponsered police state terrorism. It is imperitive for them to disarm that majority and render them defenseless.
    **************************************

    You are correct. After bo cohorts falsely arrested me they illegally confiscated all my guns
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I read husband remarks while he reads his rifle magazine ……..and to this strategy my redneck says……..

    THIS AIN’T AFGHANISTAN!!!

  83. oldsalt79 // June 19, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Free speech………………………………….
    What makes you think that I havn’t been taking action? You do not live here and have no insight as to my day to day activity. To so imply tells me that you have some sort of control mentality. Keep GUESSING SONNY. You really don’t know the half of it, and WON’T until I decide to tell you what I am doing, which probably will never happen. Your continued thorn in the side sort of attitude towards everyone here on the blog seems to say that you are pretty much still a child. Have you ever been involved in our military services? I think not. I seriously doubt if you know the butt of a rifle from the muzzle. I recently read one of your comments where you called your weapons “GUNS” which you alleged were confiscated. Was the weapons returned to you? In the military a rifle is just that,and a sidearm is just that. The “guns” are for another purpose.I wonder how you would behave in the face of an enemy bearing weapons. I have done these things and was fortunate enough to live to tell you about it. I also have my DD214s to back up what I say. But I will never show them to you. I don’t have to, because as long as I know why I have them along with my other service related documents is enough for me . Besides I likely served either before you was born, or while you was in kindergarten.. I have travelled over a million miles of our planet, in both the military and as a civilian. I have enjoyed the fruits of my PEACEFUL labors, and raised two sons, both of whom have served in our military forces. Both have formal educations,and both are successful in private business ventures today.
    I made my contribution to your safety, and perhaps it is time for you to do what you have been advocating, and return the favor to all of us vets who served in the Korean war,and before.
    _______________

    oldsalt79

    Thank you sir, for yet another great comment. I have always admired your honesty and wisdom. As a grateful free American, please accept my most humble and heart-felt appreciation for your service to our country.

  84. Old Salt 79 –
    We who enjoy freedom must not and cannot forget all that you brave men have done for us! Let me add my salute to you, Old Salt, for serving your country and helping to secure our liberty!

    Being just three years younger than you, I remember vividly sitting in a large study hall while listening to Gen. Douglas MacArthur give his farewell speech after being dismissed from command by Pres. Truman. His parting words were, “Old soldiers never die; they just fade away.” It was a momentous event.

    You had to have been just a young lad during your service in the Korean War, which, I’ve heard, was one of the most difficult in which to fight. I have a cousin who served in WW II and who was planning on being a thirty-year man. During his tour of duty in Korea he made his decision to cut that time short, because he said the conditions were nearly unbearable in that theatre of war. Then it was a war that our boys were not allowed to win.

    Keep on telling it like you see it, Veteran!
    And God bless you!!

  85. TruthSeeker

    And here we wee thinking the NRA would be the LAST group to negotiate terms with the Liar in Chief and co, eh jj?

    We’re all screwed beyond belief…

  86. Free Speech

    I have to question the allegiance of the leaders of on-line grand juries who continue to call for the prosecution of Barrack Hussein Obama in Federal Court.

    Hello! BHO is now the boss of all US Attorneys in the United States Federal Court system. BHO appoints all Federal judges in the United States Federal Court system. The leaders of these on-line grand juries might as well be asking that O.J. Simpson be released from Prison in Nevada so that he can get tried again in Los Angeles. The leaders of these on-line grand juries might as well be expecting to get a different result from trying former DC Mayor over again in Federal Court in DC.

    The DC jury saw video evidence of Mayor Marion Barry smoking crack cocaine and buying crack for re-sale, yet they acquitted the Mayor just like the Los Angeles jury acquitted O.J. The LA DA could try O.J. over and over again until doomsday in LA and they would not get a different result. The Federal US Attorneys could try Marion Barry over and over and over again in DC and they would not get a different result. A Federal jury in DC is even less likely to convict “President” Barrack Hussein Obama than they were to convict Mayor Marion Barry. Why the leaders on-line grand juries expect that they can get BHO convicted in Federal Court in DC is incomprehensible.

    The leaders of these on-line grand juries can’t even get BHO indicted by a Federal grand jury after over a year of holding illegitimate on-line grand juries. Hello! You can’t convict BHO unless you get him indicted first.

    Why can’t the leaders of these on-line grand juries get BHO indicted by a Legitimate Federal Grand Jury? The answer is simple. It is contained in footnote 4 to Rule 7 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure: “Presentment is not included as an additional type of formal accusation, since presentments as a method of instituting prosecutions are obsolete, at least as concerns the Federal courts.”

    What exactly does that footnote to Rule 7 mean? While many constitutional scholars have reasoned that said footnote is unconstitutional, as a practical matter, it has been construed by US Federal attorneys and judges to mean that they do not have to accept the presentment of criminal evidence from citizens or grand jurors. Thus, US attorneys are never going to accept the presentment or indictment by the leaders of these on-line grand juries because they don’t have to, according to their interpretation of their rules of procedure; and since all the US attorneys work for BHO, they are not going to risk their jobs to indict BHO even if that is the constitutionally right thing to do.

    How can righteous Patriots get their presentments or indictments heard by a Court? Patriots should first go to their local county DA and Sheriff with their criminal information against BHO and his local county co-conspirators.

    Why would the local law enforcement officials be more inclined to prosecute BHO at the request of local citizens? The answer to that question is simple: the local officials are elected unlike Federal US attorneys and judges. Thus, these local law enforcement officials will be much more inclined to abide by the wishes of their constituents, rather than face election defeat or possible Grand Jury indictment themselves.

    The is precedent for a Grand Jury acting on its own without interference by a local DA or judge. The most notable example came in 1935 in New York when a Grand Jury which was investigating gambling and mobster Dutch Schultz complained in open court that the DA was not investigating criminal evidence against Schultz and that the DA was receiving bribes from Schultz. The DA was replace by Thomas Dewey as an independent prosecutor. Few DA’s will cover-up for BHO and his co-conspirators, if they know in no uncertain terms that they will be run out of office or, worst yet, get indicted by the Grand Jury.
    .
    If these local law enforcement officials question the authority of your Grand Jury presentments or indictments, you should cite the rulings by United States Supreme Court Justice Scalia on Citizen Grand Juries.

    In the United States v. Williams, Justice Scalia stated “Rooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history…the Grand Jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the three branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right…In fact, the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.” In other words the power of the Grand Jury is assigned to We the People in order that we may obtain a “more perfect Union.”

    Thus, it is clear that in order to bring Barrack Hussein Obama and his co-conspirators to justice, Patriot will have to begin by forming local Grand Juries and indicting BHO and his co-conspirators in State Court.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

  87. UpstateWarrior // June 19, 2010 at 11:17 am
    When the last effort broadcast of controlling internet, my email contacts suggested exchanging landline numbers…….I only got 4, so that didn’t float.

    I lost them with my hard drive….I guess people don’t want to give out that info…but I didn’t mind.
    That’s what they’re hoping for–they must know we don’t have personal info like first and last names.

  88. Barack Obama Falls to Another New Low Just Days After Hitting Rock Bottom

    Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) — Just days after hitting rock bottom in his approval ratings, President Barack Obama has hit a new low with American voters. A new Rasmussen Reports poll finds just 41 percent of likely voters now say they are pleased with his job performance, compared with 58 percent who now disapprove.

    The new numbers are surprising given that Obama recently addressed the nation to further discuss his response to the oil spill that has caused severe problems in the Gulf of Mexico.

    Currently, 76 percent of Democrats approve of the president’s performance while 85 percent of Republicans disapprove along with 72 percent of independent voters.

    Full story at LifeNews.com

  89. Pro-Life Issues Could Make My Pennsylvania Blue State Red for Pat Toomey
    by Maria Vitale

    When citizen activists from across the country converge on the National Right to Life Convention June 24-26, they’ll be coming to a Blue State with a decidedly red streak.

    . . . . . this year, pro-abortion Democrats may be seeing red in PA. Former Republican Congressman Pat Toomey, who is pro-life, is waging an impressive campaign against pro-abortion Democratic Congressman Joe Sestak in the race to become Pennsylvania’s next U.S. Senator.

    And, even in a Blue State, Toomey has a good shot at winning

    http://www.lifenews.com/state5203.html

  90. Free Speech:

    Several times on the Citizen Wells threads you have stated that you first began to educate people about the natural born Citizen issue and GNO’s singular lack of eligibility to hold the office he’s in. You stated that you first did so 2 years ago/

    Would you please give us a link to that 2 year ago link where you did so?

  91. My apologies – “GNO” = “BHO” of course.

  92. FS

    From basic training …….. for calling your rifle a gun………..

    You were made to run around the barracks holding your rifle in one hand and your crotch in the other ……………..

    “This is my rifle, this is my gun. This is for shooting, this is for fun.”

    In early times all firearms were guns , then came rifling . Guns don’t have the rifling .

  93. oldsalt79 // June 19, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    As I stated before, when it gets bad enough, when the citizens have had enough, when there is nothing to lose, there will be a revolution.
    This must come before the gun confiscations.
    As husband said, THIS AIN’T AFGHANISTAN!!

  94. Free Speech

    !?!! // June 19, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Currently, 76 percent of Democrats approve of the president’s performance while 85 percent of Republicans disapprove along with 72 percent of independent voters.
    *****************************************

    That 76 % of what is left of the dem party is clearly insane.

  95. Some very interesting, yet puzzling things going on with the microfilm research.

    Please read, and look for her 6/19 update:

    http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/wheres-sherlock-holmes-when-you-need-him/

  96. TruthSeeker // June 19, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    And here we wee thinking the NRA would be the LAST group to negotiate terms with the Liar in Chief and co, eh jj?

    We’re all screwed beyond belief

    Not one of these bast–ards have any loyalty to the U.S….it’s all about the money.

  97. Thus, it is clear that in order to bring Barrack Hussein Obama and his co-conspirators to justice, Patriot will have to begin by forming local Grand Juries and indicting BHO and his co-conspirators in State Court
    You’re really beginning to get on my one last nerve left……..still don’t get it, do you??
    This has been a coup from the get go.
    Accept this and move on!!!
    Keep your ammo dry.

  98. Free Speech

    There are 3 factions among Patriots that need to unite in our Constitutional Cause:

    1. The Patriot Lawyers who have been working hard since 2008 to inform Patriots about the NBC issue and the 4th Branch of our Government, the Citizens Grand Jury system. There is no need for us to go underground since everything we are doing is legal and constitutional. Furthermore, we must continue to inform and debunk the constant attacks from boBots who are out to confuse and divide Patriots.

    2. Tea Party Groups definitely do not need to hide. To the contrary their public demonstrations have been instrumental in educating Patriots about the NBC issue. Now is the time for the Tea Party Movement to unite with the Citizen Grand Jury Movement to take our Country back before bo puts us under Martial Law.

    3. Those Patriots calling for Armed Revolution. These groups need the clandestine communications about which your refer.

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

  99. Free Speech

    Aristotle the Hun // June 19, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    Bob (AGJ) didn’t want me to publish this but I did anyway (secretly) but now it can become public.

    Presenting Obama Indictments to Authorities

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009/05/presenting-obama-indictments-to.html

    Tips on Presenting Obama Indictments to Authorities

    Also:
    Bounty Hunters, Soldiers of Fortune, and Mercenaries for God

    GIVEN THE GENERAL LEVEL OF INACTION AND INCOMPETENCY OF GOVERNMENTS EVERYWHERE THIS SHOULD COME AS NO SURPRISE! THERE ARE OTHER LOCAL GROUPS DEALING WITH GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION AND ADMINISTERING “POSSE”* JUSTICE.

    *Posse comitatus or sheriff’s posse is the common-law authority of a county sheriff or other law officer, or PRIVATE CITIZENS to conscript any able-bodied males to assist in keeping the peace or to pursue and arrest a felon; compare hue and cry. Originally found in English common law, it is generally obsolete, and survives only in America, where it is the law enforcement equivalent of summoning the militia for military purposes.

    Are you a Dew Drop Warrior?

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009/03/welcome-are-you-dew-drop-warrior.html
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/06/bounty-hunters-soldiers-of-fortune-and.html

    *******************************************

    Aristotle, you, Sir, are an Officer & a Gentleman as well a brilliant strategist.

  100. Old Salt, I really appreciate your input on this site. I don’t post much but thought I would say this. Thanks for your service to our country.

  101. Free speech is our foundational right, non-negotiable.

    I’m looking to see a huge upsurge in free speech among all the citizens throughout the land. Instead of limiting us, this attempt will result in a grassroots expansion of free speech on every front.

    Three hundred million citizens ignoring a handful of folks who think they do, but don’t have the right to dictate away our freedoms takes care of that issue right now.

    When all of us, in spontaneous agreement, cease to take this Congress and (faux) president seriously, we’ve effectively stopped their play.

    When we ignore them by continuing to exercise our rights, we cut off their power — which derives from us in the first place.

    When we all start laughing at all their pronouncements, laughing right in the face of the msm, and continue to go about our business as if they’d never spoken, they’re done.

    We take their power away by refusing to cooperate with their illegal, unconstitutional insanity.

  102. Free Speech

    JJ // June 19, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    TruthSeeker // June 19, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    And here we wee thinking the NRA would be the LAST group to negotiate terms with the Liar in Chief and co, eh jj?

    We’re all screwed beyond belief
    ****************************************

    This is not the time to be overcome by fear and start lashing out at fellow Patriots. . There are many Patriots who are keeping the cool and preparing Grand Jury indictments. President Nixon was a much more formidable force and he was legally removed. We will legally remove bo as well.

  103. Free Speech

    !?!! // June 19, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Free speech is our foundational right, non-negotiable.

    I’m looking to see a huge upsurge in free speech among all the citizens throughout the land. Instead of limiting us, this attempt will result in a grassroots expansion of free speech on every front.

    Three hundred million citizens ignoring a handful of folks who think they do, but don’t have the right to dictate away our freedoms takes care of that issue right now.

    When all of us, in spontaneous agreement, cease to take this Congress and (faux) president seriously, we’ve effectively stopped their play.

    When we ignore them by continuing to exercise our rights, we cut off their power — which derives from us in the first place.

    When we all start laughing at all their pronouncements, laughing right in the face of the msm, and continue to go about our business as if they’d never spoken, they’re done.

    We take their power away by refusing to cooperate with their illegal, unconstitutional insanity.
    ***************************************

    ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!

    That Sir, is one of the best posts that I have read. We need to legally attack bo & his cohorts at every angle and every opportunity.

    Some are giving into fear of bo. bo is pathetic creature, insanely fearful himself. There is no need to fear him. A fearful soldier will not win in battle.

  104. Oldsalt,

    Please forgive me for being so forward. I truly feel your pain and frustration, but you MUST keep your head down for now. There is a peaceful way to deal with these problems, and it starts with voting this fall. However, like minded individuals should be preparing themselves.

    Pete

  105. I’m wondering about that dem’s 76%. Where do o. approval numbers come from?

    Do the dem officials who leave town when o. shows up, still approve of his job performance?

    Do the dem leaders who have urged o. NOT to campaign for them, to the extent that the WH has tried to substitute MO instead, still give him a high approval rating?

    Can anyone in the Gulf states still be approving his job performance? Even the foe msm dissed him about his lack of response to the oil spill.

    I can’t get over my suspicion that these polls are somehow calibrated for political correctness. Maybe they’ve already been using a technique similar to the NY method of allowing 6 votes at a time for one candidate. Like, maybe every third “dem” polled is counted as speaking for 10 dems instead of just one. What are the pollsters NOT telling us?

    Quick, somebody check the algorithms in the polling software.

  106. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    JJ // June 19, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    and in recent days a “carve-out” was created that would have exempted the National Rifle Association from its demands, allegedly in exchange for the NRA dropping its opposition
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ============================

    I am a NRA Life Member, NRA Instructor, and in many other ways “in bed” with NRA.

    I am not happy about this. There are many things they do like this that rub my fur the wrong way. But the reason I am “tight” with them is that I am a Gun Rights activist and on the average they are leading lights in this area.

    You also have to understand that they are not specifically “tea partiers” or broad-based “constitutionalists” or “patriots”. They are pretty much a one trick pony.

    All of their lobbying and legislative activism is totally focused on that single pony. They take calculated risks as to what is the best way to feed that pony. For instance, I think they would vote for a Cap and Trade bill or any other socialist nonsense if they could get an amendment attached that promoted Gun Rights.

    They also keep a database of politician’s voting records on matters that interest them. In that regard, they have Harry Reid listed as ‘A+’. If a conservative patriot were running with a ‘B’ or ‘C’ rating, they would endorse Reid. That’s just the way they roll.

    I don’t know if that makes you love ’em or hate ’em more – but at least you know their grand plan.

  107. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    PLEASE READ – Very Important – Very Timely

    In regards NRA – I have another personal conflict. In addition to being a Gun Rights activist I am a State’s Rights activist.

    Consider the Chicago gun ban now under consideration by the USSC. The NRA is strongly on the side of using the 2nd amendment as a hammer to force the states, cities, and individuals to provide firearms rights to everybody. My State’s Rights activism teaches that the States are sovereign and that the Federal Gov has no business telling the states what to do. More specifically the Bill of Rights (including the 2nd amendment) only applies to the Federal Gov infringing of various unalienable rights.

    The whole history of USSC precedent in that last 100 years has largely been focused on just this issue as embodied in the 14th amendment. Does the 14th amendment trump all the State’s Rights issues?

    Interestingly enough, the USSC has never decided this “as a whole”. They decide in regards to individual rights, presumed rights, anticipated rights, and amendments, one at a time as the various cases are brought to the court.

    Any provision of the US Constitution that the USSC decides to apply to the states via one of these rulings is described as being “incorporated against the states”. The 2nd amendment has never been so incorporated. That is why this court case (to be decided any day) is so important.

    [For instance – if you got fluffed up by a local constabulary wanting to take away your gun – and you started wailing about your 2nd amendment rights ‘guaranteed to you by the Constitution’, you would be wrong. You have no such rights at the moment. On the other hand if a Federal Officer accosted you, then you have 2nd amendment rights!

    This is exactly how the current Chicago case got to the USSC. Gun ownership was denied or infringed to a Chicago man by the city authorities. He said he had 2nd amendment rights. City said no. Appeals court said no. So now USSC decides.]

    Will they incorporate it? (thereby offending the State’s Rights enthusiasts)

    Will they decide formally to not incorporate it? (thereby offending the Gun Rights enthusiasts)

    Will they decide to deal with the Chicago thing as a special ad hoc ruling without deciding the Incorporation issue as a precedent for other states and cities? (thereby offending EVERYBODY)

  108. Free Speech // June 19, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    JJ // June 19, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    TruthSeeker // June 19, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    And here we wee thinking the NRA would be the LAST group to negotiate terms with the Liar in Chief and co, eh jj?

    We’re all screwed beyond belief
    ****************************************

    This is not the time to be overcome by fear and start lashing out at fellow Patriots. . There are many Patriots who are keeping the cool and preparing Grand Jury indictments. President Nixon was a much more formidable force and he was legally removed. We will legally remove bo as well
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Are you sure you’re a Tennesseean??
    I swear you don’t understand what ‘lashing out’ is in my vocabulary!!
    What the hell?? You confuse our comments with fear??
    Words…words…words…words…words… ARE NOT WORKING!!! DON’T YOU GET IT???
    Keep your ammo dry!!
    Like my redneck husband, Viet Nam veteran said……….THIS AIN’T AFGHANISTAN!!

  109. Thanks, Free Speech.

    I’m not sure what you said is what I said, but I appreciate your comment.

  110. We take their power away by refusing to cooperate with their illegal, unconstitutional insanity
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Are you really ready??
    Do you have food and supplies for a year?
    A way to cook it?? A way to see at night like an oil lamp??
    What if those foreign troops use the new ‘vomit’ spray on us?? Do you have gas masks for all your family??
    Could we hold onto our guns??

  111. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 19, 2010 at 9:51 pm
    My husband just became an NRA member and thanks for the info—giving away one freedom for another—
    Hmmm..is that really freedom??

  112. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    JJ // June 19, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    —giving away one freedom for another—
    Hmmm..is that really freedom??

    ==========================

    NRA – not Freedom Fighters – you expect too much?

    NRA are Gun Rights lobbyists. Period.

  113. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    In the end the two greatest priorities that overwhelm everything else are:

    1. National Security – and all that that implies.

    2. Socialism – including all the economic and totalitarian ramifications.

    So, it is critically important that Zero be deposed (yes, I used that word on purpose!) instantly.

    Alas, I fear that means something like graft or personal finance irregularities – like Al Capone.

    But, dammit – This has gotten way too personal. I want him to be tried for Treason and suffer the penalties of THAT conviction.

    A pardon or sitting in low-security jail (country club!) will NOT give me closure!!!

  114. !?!! // June 19, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Free speech is our foundational right, non-negotiable.

    I’m looking to see a huge upsurge in free speech among all the citizens throughout the land. Instead of limiting us, this attempt will result in a grassroots expansion of free speech on every front.

    Three hundred million citizens ignoring a handful of folks who think they do, but don’t have the right to dictate away our freedoms takes care of that issue right now.

    When all of us, in spontaneous agreement, cease to take this Congress and (faux) president seriously, we’ve effectively stopped their play.

    When we ignore them by continuing to exercise our rights, we cut off their power — which derives from us in the first place.

    When we all start laughing at all their pronouncements, laughing right in the face of the msm, and continue to go about our business as if they’d never spoken, they’re done.

    We take their power away by refusing to cooperate with their illegal, unconstitutional insanity.

    # # # #

    We The People should spread this post far and wide!! This is a Great Post!!

    Thank you for posting this Great Idea because this is exactly what the USA American Citizens MUST Do!!

  115. About the NRA , does anyone know when and why the NRA was first founded. Wasn’t the NRA the first gun control advocate . Keeping freed slaves from owning firearms ?.

  116. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    JJ // June 19, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Are you really ready??
    Do you have food and supplies for a year?

    =========================

    Hey JJ – you growled at me a couple of threads ago in regards the power of the Fed – but you said you were “ready”.

    Did you read my response? I figured I had just miscommunicated. I mostly agree with you and applaud your readiness.

    Regardless or your preparedness – which is good for a lot of scenarios – I still think the Fed will win in a “who cries Uncle first” scenario!

  117. oldsalt79.. I join the others in thanking you for serving our country. You not only have talked the talk.. you have walked the walk. We are proud of you.

  118. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    NRA was first founded in recognition of the “Tennessee Rifleman” – or Kentucky, or Pennsylvania, or whichever you prefer.

    They were founded (at the behest of THE GOVERNMENT) to keep arms in the hands of the populace and to keep markmanship training at the highest levels.

    I think their history is on their website somewhere.

    Whether or not they advocated against slave firearm ownership, I don’t really know. But would not be surprised. Before the Civil War, slaves were property or “animals”. They had no recognized rights. Why would anyone at that time think they should have gun rights?

  119. Free Speech:

    I’ll ask again that you post a link to the natural born Citizen and eligibility warnings you say you posted 2 years ago.

    Please provide a verifying link.

  120. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 19, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    In the end the two greatest priorities that overwhelm everything else are:

    1. National Security – and all that that implies.

    2. Socialism – including all the economic and totalitarian ramifications.

    So, it is critically important that Zero be deposed (yes, I used that word on purpose!) instantly.

    Alas, I fear that means something like graft or personal finance irregularities – like Al Capone.

    But, dammit – This has gotten way too personal. I want him to be tried for Treason and suffer the penalties of THAT conviction.

    A pardon or sitting in low-security jail (country club!) will NOT give me closure!!!
    *******************************************

    bo & several of his treasonous co-conspirators should be incarcerated at Gitmo for the rest of their lives or better yet, Gitmo is far too cushy for bo, he should be incarcerated at Angola Prison where the people of Louisiana can have their way with him.

  121. I believe Governor Brewer, along with all AZ elected and appointed officials, would do well to follow in LTC Lakin’s footsteps and refuse to participate in a mockery of our justice system.

    o. has no authority, jurisdiction or basis in American juridprudence to sue AZ over their immigration law.

    The judge has no jurisdiction or authority in the matter, either. The statutes about illegal immigration found in the US Code are exceedingly clear. Any judge advancing o.’s bogus case in any way is in obvious violation of US Law.

    The “case” is a set-up whereby one person gets to negate the will of the people, the law of the land, and the Constitution all in one play.

    The AZ government needs to publish their rationale, citing all relevant laws, as well as the Constitutional authority for their actions, and simply refuse to cooperate with o.’s charade.

    The AG could approve a warrant for the judge’s arrest for violating US law, to be issued should any similar threats be made against the Governor or other AZ official.

    To stand for America, Governor Brewer, et al. must refuse to play by o.’s made-up rules.

    They must stand on the truth that the Court in this case has no jurisdiction over them and, therefore, they are bound by their duty to the citizens of AZ to say NO to the farce.

    They need to state loudly and firmly that the AZ legislation stands and will be enforced by AZ employees.

    Otherwise, they are violating their oath to the Constitution and selling out their citizens to tyranny.

  122. They should all go to AZ Joe Arapio’s (spelling tent jail cities.

  123. I am off to watch the movie, Valkyrie. Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg was a soldier who had the guts not to be overwhelmed by fear.

  124. !?!! // June 19, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    They don’t have the authority but you do ,,, We The People have the Constitutional authority to remove the entire Government , right NOW.

    Where’s the petition , I’ll sign it now , and I’m sure the majority is in our favor.

    Maybe we can get Leo to start the petition, Leo ………………….

  125. Starla // June 19, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Why, thank you, ma’am.

    Maybe if we all pray, a la 2 Chronicles 7:14, for everyone, althogether, to ignore o. as a leader and to refuse all the unconstitutional legislation illegally manuvered through Congress without due process, we would see the will of the American people prevail.

  126. ARMY D.A.V. // June 19, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    Maybe if we start talking about adding pressure to the petitions . . . .

    What if millions of citizens in each state engage in serious, creative, unrelenting PRESSURE for their “representatives” to resign.. . ??

    What if citizens sign a “Declaration of Independence” from this Congress, declaring all “edicts ” void, all bonds severed, and Congress suspended until new representatives are duly elected.

    Daydreaming is such an enjoyable pasttime . . .


  127. This is one way of getting a message to a lot of people very fast and very cheap.

  128. !?!!

    Daydreaming it is not .

    The Profound Capstone Right:
    The Right To Petition For Redress of Grievances

    The People may rightfully Petition when Government has either abused its limited, delegated authority (such as when it applies the armed forces of the United States in hostilities overseas without a declaration of war), or when it has failed to perform a duty mandated by the Constitution (such as the current failure of the President to “faithfully execute” the immigration laws, as he is required to do by Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution).

    The Government is then required, as a servant and creation of the People, and by the legal nature of the Right of Petition, to respond to the Petition for Redress of Grievances.

    The Government refuses to respond or to provide Redress as demanded in the Petition, the People possess the lawful authority to withdraw their allegiance and obedience from the Government until it provides Redress to the People.

    If your still watching Glenn Beck you could be daydreaming.

  129. Nice try Rahm, for almost two months Americans have been treated to Obama and the admin partying almost the entire time of the oil spill-it was only due to public outrage, polls falling that Obama deigned to go at all and what about 13 approx. countries that offered to send help immediately but the WON rejected their offers, besides you idiot politicians, etc. this is about a region of the United States of America, with loyal taxpaying Americans trying to do their best in spite of you. Lead, follow or get the he## out of the way. In the best interests of the American people (that you PRETEND) to care so much about get the he## out of the way. LA and FL already have gone rogue and took the bull by the horns after witnessing the beyond inept work that the gov’t and all that surrounds it have employed so far. If any of them were half as intelligent as the PRETEND to be this would not have happened in the first place, they should get off of their high horses.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/us/20spill.html?src=me
    BP officials on Saturday scrambled yet again to respond to another public relations challenge when their embattled chief executive, Tony Hayward, spent the day off the coast of England watching his yacht compete in one of the world’s largest races.
    But Rahm Emanuel, the White House chief of staff, who taped an interview for ABC’s “This Week,” called Mr. Hayward’s attendance at the race “part of a long line of P.R. gaffes and mistakes” that he has made.
    “To quote Tony Hayward, he’s got his life back,” Mr. Emanuel said.

  130. Starla —

    Here’s more like what I was trying to say.

    “Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit,” says the Lord of hosts. Zechariah 4:6

    We can pray for God to break o.’s “spell” and to open America’s eyes to see o. for the joke that he really is.

    If no one follows o., if no one complies with his bullying legislation, then he can’t lead us into destruction.

  131. !?!! // June 19, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    Maybe if we all pray, a la 2 Chronicles 7:14, for everyone, althogether, to ignore o. as a leader and to refuse all the unconstitutional legislation illegally manuvered through Congress without due process, we would see the will of the American people prevail.

    # # # #

    A Great Plan!! GOD can lead ALL Americans, as we pray the words from the Holy Bible, the Forever Living Words of GOD from the book in the Holy Bible in the New Testament, 2 Chronicles 7:14.

    http://bible.cc/2_chronicles/7-14.htm

    New International Version
    Holy Bible

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

    New Living Translation
    Holy Bible

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    Then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land.

    English Standard Version
    Holy Bible

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

    New American Standard Bible

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    And My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

    GOD’S WORD® Translation

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    However, if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves, pray, search for me, and turn from their evil ways, then I will hear [their prayer] from heaven, forgive their sins, and heal their country.

    King James Bible

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    American King James Version

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    American Standard Version

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    If my people, who are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    Douay-Rheims Bible

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    And my people, upon whom my name is called, being converted, shall make supplication to me, and seek out my face, and do penance for their most wicked ways: then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sine and will heal their land.

    Geneva Study Bible

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    (e) I will cause the pestilence to cease and destroy the beasts that hurt the fruit of the earth, and send rain in due season.

    # # # #

    Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary

    7:1-22 God’s answer to Solomon’s prayer. –

    God gave a gracious answer to Solomon’s prayer. The mercies of God to sinners are made known in a manner well suited to impress all who receive them, with his majesty and holiness. The people worshipped and praised God. When he manifests himself as a consuming Fire to sinners, his people can rejoice in him as their Light. Nay, they had reason to say, that God was good in this. It is of the Lord’s mercies we are not consumed, but the sacrifice in our stead, for which we should be very thankful. And whoever beholds with true faith, the Saviour agonizing and dying for man’s sin, will, by that view, find his godly sorrow enlarged, his hatred of sin increased, his soul made more watchful, and his life more holy. Solomon prosperously effected all he designed, for adorning both God’s house and his own. Those who begin with the service of God, are likely to go on successfully in their own affairs. It was Solomon’s praise, that what he undertook, he went through with; it was by the grace of God that he prospered in it. Let us then stand in awe, and sin not. Let us fear the Lord’s displeasure, hope in his mercy, and walk in his commandments.

    James 4:10 – Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you.

    http://bible.cc/2_chronicles/7-14.htm

  132. ARMY D.A.V. // June 19, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    Let’s do THAT — withdraw our allegiance and obediance, en masse. I think that’s the only thing that will work.

    Exercising our allegiance to the Constitution IS refusing to follow o. and Congress, at this point. The two are now mutually exclusive.

    Giving ground to o. and his bullies IS relinquishing our Constitutional rights.

    No way is this government about to redress any citizens’ grievances whatsoever (Hear them laughing their heads off.). This government is about the retraction of our freedoms and the de facto nullification of our Constitution.

    I’ve never watched Glenn Beck, except once on U-Tube for about 70 seconds, just so I would know to whom everyone here was referring.

    I tuned out of the msm and the political scene once upon a time when my illusions about our government were all of a sudden quite rudely shattered.

    I only tuned back in when I got wind of o. on the horizon.

  133. Re: !?!! // June 19, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    “Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit,” says the Lord of hosts.

    Zechariah 4:6

    # # # #

    !?!! I recommend to you and to everyone who happens to read this to visit this web site for an EXCELLENT Online Holy Bible, Condordances, etc. web site:

    http://bible.cc

    http://bible.cc/zechariah/4-6.htm

  134. Starla – 11:46 PM

    Amen and Amen!!!

  135. TO EVERYONE:

    Please read this and study this:

    1 Thessalonians 5

    http://isv.scripturetext.com/1_thessalonians/5.htm

  136. !?!! // June 20, 2010 at 12:01 am

    ARMY D.A.V. // June 19, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    Let’s do THAT — withdraw our allegiance and obediance, en masse. I think that’s the only thing that will work.

    Exercising our allegiance to the Constitution IS refusing to follow o. and Congress, at this point. The two are now mutually exclusive.

    ********************

    Whoa , slow down friend, first you have start the petition , better hurry , before the radicals start their violent revolution .

  137. Starla // June 19, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    Quite a commentary on 2 Chronicles 7:14. The ones who humble themselves receive God’s blessings.

    What America is facing right now, likewise, reminds me of the lists of blessings and curses in Deuteronomy 28.

    God’s people prosper when their lives are based on His ways and His Word. In choosing life, they reap blessing upon blessing.

    When God’s people base their lives on their own self-centeredness and willfulness, making up their own rules as they go along . . . . eh, not so good. For one thing, their enemies gain power over them and defeat them.

    Chapter 28 helps me make sense out of the way America is being overcome by inane absurdities. Our national strength resides in adherence to our godly foundations. Without the pillars of God’s absolutes, we’re putty in the hands of our domestic enemies.

    All the 2 Chronicles 7:14 prayer seems to be having a good effect, though. Seeing a grand national repentance would be awesome.

  138. ARMY D.A.V. // June 20, 2010 at 12:26 am

    Ooops. I thought we’d done that part already. Seems like there are a ton of those redress petitions gathering dust on the desks of various unresponsive officials, along with all the requests and petitions for investigation into o.’s ineligibility and ballot fraud.

    I thought we’d already absorbed the bitter truth that not one of our representatives or other government officials is going to prioritize their oath to the Constitution over good evaluations, job advancement, bribery, or any sort of self-agrandizement.

  139. Michelle // June 19, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    You’ve just given me another great idea for cleaning up the oil (along with all the others you’ve posted).

    Throw all the politicans into the goop.

    If that doesn’t motivate them to get the spill cleaned up, at least they will be out of the way of the people who CAN and WILL clean up the mess.

  140. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Yeah – so who exactly is the official organization designated to receive and process our Petitions for Redress? And, who exactly is going to force “them” to respond? And how?

    Yeah – I know what the constitution says, but there seems to be no method of enforcement.

  141. Citizen Don in California

    !?!! // June 20, 2010 at 1:13 am
    Don’t forget to have the feathers waiting on shore.

  142. Citizen Don in California

    Oldsalt, Thank you! As I’ve said before, you are one of a kind and we need more like you!!

  143. jtx, I can prove I ‘discovered’ early in August 2008 that the way to keep BO out of the WH would be to keep him off the ballot! (Literally, this was a 3:00 AM epiphany!)

    Comment by jbjd | 2008-08-02 23:38:00
    I posted this last night, here and on texasdarlin (and puma pac blog).
    ****************************************************
    I think I just figured out how to contest BO’s eligibility to run for President, based on questions as to whether he is a natural born citizen!
    Anyone wishing to appear on the ballot for President must register with the Secretaries of State in the individual states, according to their rules regarding numbers of signatures; and citizenship. The timetables for contesting the validity of ballot submissions are listed for each state. So, if BO manages to take the nomination in August then, his people will file paperwork to get him on the ballots of the 50 states. At this time, people can file individual challenges against his eligibility with the individual Secretaries of State.
    For a full discussion of BO’s legal eligibility to be POTUS, see http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/birth-certificate-obama-soetoro-or-dunham
    Comment by jbjd | 2008-08-03 01:50:47
    I am too tired to go into detail here now but, I wanted to clarify a few confusions in these comments, off the top of my head.
    1. President is a federal office; and requirements to hold this office, which are contained in the U.S. Constitution, are also codified in federal law (U.S. Code).
    2. Elections for the federal office of President are held in the several states under the auspices of the Secretary of State, part of the executive branch of government.
    3. The state is responsible for promulgating the rules and regulations for conducting state elections, in compliance with all state and federal law.
    4. Individual candidates or candidates representing political parties must satisfy filing requirements set by the state to appear on the ballot.
    5. Eligibility challenges to ballot submissions can be made by interested parties (usually voters in the state) or by the Secretary sua sponte, that is, on her own. In other words, you could argue to her that BO does not belong on the ballot; or she could refuse to put him there. One could argue that appeals, by you or BO, of adverse decisions to eligibility challenges could proceed in either state or federal court (judicial branch of government), in the individual state.
    Any case involving ballot challenges, filed in either federal or state court, would receive expedited hearings. If federal courts take jurisdiction, on the basis that federal laws defining eligibility requirements are at the heart of this conflict; or that multiple states are implicated in the dispute, then they could combine all pending ballot challenges in one case. (This would most likely be heard by the DC Circuit.)
    Enough. I will read all these comments and write more tomorrow.

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  145. http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/

    “Dew Drop Warriors” is a coded reference to the 300 warriors picked by Gideon to reestablish the rule of God in Israel. Israel had been invaded by foreign peoples and foreign gods.

    Judges 6:2 And the hand of Mid’ian prevailed over Israel; and because of Mid’ian the people of Israel made for themselves the dens which are in the mountains, and the caves and the strongholds. 3 For whenever the Israelites put in seed the Mid’ianites and the Amal’ekites and the people of the East would come up and attack them; 4 they would encamp against them and destroy the produce of the land, as far as the neighborhood of Gaza, and leave no sustenance in Israel, and no sheep or ox or ass. 5 For they would come up with their cattle and their tents, coming like locusts for number; both they and their camels could not be counted; so that they wasted the land as they came in.

    Judges 6:36 Then Gideon said to God, “If thou wilt deliver Israel by my hand, as thou hast said, 37 behold, I am laying a fleece of wool on the threshing floor; if there is dew on the fleece alone, and it is dry on all the ground, then I shall know that thou wilt deliver Israel by my hand, as thou hast said.” 38 And it was so. When he rose early next morning and squeezed the fleece, he wrung enough dew from the fleece to fill a bowl with water.

  146. Re: Aristotle the Hun // June 20, 2010 at 11:45 am

    Thank you for your EXCELLENT and VERY INFORMATIVE comment. America is being invaded by foreign peoples and foreign gods. It is up to our ALMIGHTY GOD to use We The People as GOD’S humble and faithful & true servants like Gideon, and Gideon’s
    “Dewdrop Warriors,” to reestablish the rule of God in the United States Of America and throughout the earth for GOD.

  147. Hey JJ – you growled at me a couple of threads ago in regards the power of the Fed – but you said you were “ready”.

    Did you read my response? I figured I had just miscommunicated. I mostly agree with you and applaud your readiness.

    Regardless or your preparedness – which is good for a lot of scenarios – I still think the Fed will win in a “who cries Uncle first” scenario
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Agreed——–
    I’m still waiting for our Moses!!

  148. Starla // June 19, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    !?!! // June 19, 2010 at 11:13 pm
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    All over our county in Ky…………

    IF MY PEOPLE PRAY

    II CHRONICLES 7:14

    And UCLA hasn’t shown up yet!!

  149. JJ // June 20, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Way to go, Ky!!

    Prayer does deter God’s enemies.

    ACLU can just keep their noses out of Ky citizens’ freedom of speech, freedom to worship, freedom to. be. FREE.

  150. Citizen Don in California // June 20, 2010 at 1:53 am

    hahahahahaha

    That sounds like a plan!

    That’s what I like about collaborative thinking. The plan just gets better and better.

  151. Aristotle the Hun // June 20, 2010 at 11:45 am

    S w e e t!

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