Michele Bachmann warning, Breaking News, ACORN, TARP II, CFPA Oversight Board, Barney Frank, Democrats, Taxpayer bailouts permanent solution, systemic risk regulator, Breitbart TV interview

Representative Michele Bachmann has put out an urgent plea to stop a dangerous bill about to be voted on.

From Michele Bachmann’s site.

“Bachmann: House Preserves ACORN’s Role in TARP II

 
 
Washington, D.C., Dec 10 –

(Washington, D.C.) U.S. Representative Michele Bachmann (MN-06), member of the House Financial Services Committee, made the following statement after the Democrat Leadership denied the entire House an opportunity to vote on her amendment to prevent ACORN from participating in the Consumer Financial Protection Agency’s Oversight Board.  The Consumer Financial Protection Agency (CFPA) is an expansive new government bureaucracy with far-reaching powers to make decisions for consumers about the kinds of mortgages, small business loans, and other financial products they may access.  The Oversight Board will be tasked with advising the Agency’s director on strategies and policies.

“An organization that has repeatedly shown an inability to adhere to even the most basic standards of ethics should not have a role in overseeing our nation’s financial system,” said Bachmann.  “By rejecting consideration of my amendment, the Democrat Majority protected ACORN instead of American taxpayers and investors.”

In recent months, the IRS, U.S. Census Bureau, and Congress have taken numerous actions to sever ties with ACORN.  In fact, less than two months ago, the House Financial Services Committee accepted another amendment offered by Bachmann that would prevent ACORN from serving on a similar board established in the exact same bill under consideration this week.

“There is a clear consensus amongst the American people that ACORN is unfit to receive federal funds and partner with federal organizations.  The Democrat Leadership’s decision today robs Congress from having the opportunity to take an up-or-down vote on my amendment and keep ACORN out of our financial markets,” said Bachmann.”

Star Tribune: Giving more power where power is not due
Wall Street and bureaucracy would benefit from pending reform.

 
Washington, D.C., Dec 11 –

The majority of Americans last fall were united against the $700 billion Wall Street bailout known as TARP. Proponents of the bill urged immediate action, claiming that a failure to act quickly would send the financial industry over the brink. They promised to examine the root cause of the crisis once financial markets were secure. One year later, the House is considering legislation that will result in the most far-reaching reforms of the financial services industry in our nation’s history.

But instead of addressing the real causes of the financial collapse and fixing bad government policies that led to the crisis, congressional Democrats want to codify the fiscally irresponsible bailout mania. Their bill would make taxpayer bailouts the permanent solution for dealing with reckless financial institutions in the future.

The 1,300-plus-page bill the House is scheduled to vote on today creates a “systemic risk regulator” tasked with determining which firms meet an undefined “too big to fail” test. It allows the government to tap a multibillion-dollar bailout fund to save troubled firms whenever it wants. This fund will be initially financed by a massive new tax on financial institutions and is expected to take $55 billion out of the hands of small businesses and job creators, leading to a loss of as many as 450,000 jobs. Should that fund run dry, taxpayers are on the hook to replenish it. And unlike TARP, this bill authorizes the Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve to completely bypass congressional approval and directly provide such lifelines to flailing firms.

The moral hazard this bill creates will ripple through the entire financial marketplace. Providing banks with a bailout guarantee will perpetuate a cycle of irresponsibility, shielding creditors from taking the fall for making risky decisions and forcing taxpayers to ante up again and again.

Rather than increasing transparency within the Federal Reserve and directing it to focus on the nation’s monetary policy, this bill drastically expands the powers of the Fed to intervene in the private marketplace. But the Federal Reserve has already proven its inability to preemptively catch systemic risks as demonstrated by the financial crisis that occurred under its watch. Giving more power to government bureaucracies that have failed in the past will do nothing to stabilize our markets.

I support an alternative plan that addresses both the core problems in our financial system and promises American taxpayers that they will not be on the hook for Wall Street’s mistakes ever again. Three key principles guide this proposal: 1) It ends government bailouts of financial institutions; 2) It stops allowing the government to pick winners and losers in the financial industry; and 3) It reinstates market discipline by removing moral hazards that exist today.

Minnesotans know when Washington is trying to pull a fast one. While the government takeover of health care and total lack of job growth is at the forefront of everyone’s minds, we cannot let this permanent bailout legislation slip through Congress without a fight.”

http://bachmann.house.gov/News/

Must hear interview of Michele Bachmann

Breitbart TV

 

http://www.breitbart.tv/bachmann-on-the-b-cast-a-conservative-call-to-action/#

Thanks to commenter Katie.

282 responses to “Michele Bachmann warning, Breaking News, ACORN, TARP II, CFPA Oversight Board, Barney Frank, Democrats, Taxpayer bailouts permanent solution, systemic risk regulator, Breitbart TV interview

  1. CW,

    Is there any way to get this to Drudge other than his ‘tip line?’

    It needs to be his headline!

  2. SueK.
    I am a little rusty on my Drudge repertoire (don’t go there much anymore).
    Get other sites to post & try linking back here from Fox, etc.
    I missed Glenn Beck last night.
    To what extent is he covering this?

  3. VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT AP- WASHINGTON D.C. Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 7:40 AM

    Is this new? or from 2008?

  4. It ias obvious that ACORN is still attached to the Whitehouse ,and has pervasive tentacles through every crack in the walls. Sadly nobody seems to be interested in putting down some CRAB GRASS KILLER, of sorts. As long as ACORN is even remotely connected to the Whitehouse there will be business as usual……..CORROPTION, ….Chicago style!

  5. citizenwells // December 11, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    OK, CW, will do.

    Missed Beck last night, too-down with a cold-I’m sure someone here can fill us in on what he had to say.

  6. Looking for OVERSIGHT from people like Bawhney Fwank is a total waste of time. He is enjoying his lifestyle to much to do anything like what he was elected to do. He will hopefully be among the LIBERALS who will receive their LAY OFF NOTICES in 2010. I have a feeling that there is going to be a very long line of them at their local unemployment windows.

  7. Margie…………………………………………….

    Have you tried to track the source of your info?

  8. Robert Creamer Strikes Back

    Thursday, December 10, 2009
    By Glenn Beck

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,579973,00.html

  9. http://www.repubx.com/
    NASA manipulated data supporting global warming .. being Sued for refusing to release original data

  10. DenisetheMenace

    Rush is just talking about the “safe school” czar and the GLSN curriculum. So, this abomination is bubbling up in more open places.

    I just had a meeting with my children’s middle school principle about this. I looked up those recommended readings in the regional library that services my school district and there are two.

    I encourage EVERYONE to do the same. Find out just what is available to the children in your school district and then take that information to a meeting with the local school officials.

    Now that this information is out there we MUST do something to let our school officials that we do not approve and then take it to the superintendent/school board if you get a bad response at the principle level.

    This agenda is not appropriate and we need to call them on it.

  11. Old Salt.. I first found it in a comment section… tried googling it, and still not sure. I shall keep trying. It sounds similiar to what was said in 2008.

  12. What should we expect from a CONVICTED FELON?………MORE OF THE SAME, OR WORSE………SIMPLE!

  13. Guess getting the Nobel Peace Prize didn’t change pp’s ratings…

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

    Friday, December 11, 2009

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

  14. http://www.repubx.com/
    Has the Universe forsaken Al Gore? Why did the Nepalese cabinet climb the mountain and what’s the Sun been up to these days?

  15. Glenn Beck done a pretty good number on CREAMER yesterday. In fact I would think that CREAMER…………..GOT CREAMED!

  16. This has long been something that I advocate………………TURN OVER EVERY STONE!

  17. * OPINION

    * DECEMBER 10, 2009, 7:14 P.M. ET

    Do We Really Need a Systemic Regulator?

    By HAL S. SCOTT

    Based on what we now know about AIG, it’s unclear ‘too big to fail’ institutions are in fact too big to fail.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704342404574577870952276300.html

  18. Margie

    My 2;41 comment was directed at you! I neglected to make a reference.Getting older by the DAY! LOL

  19. JAG HUNTER here:
    There’s nothing to report. Nothing! No snail mail. No emails. No telephonic notice. Nothing!
    All that’s out there is rumor.

    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

    Ret. Lt. Fitzpatrick says everything out there is rumor….he hasn’t heard a thing from TN grand jury!!

  20. Margie // December 11, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT AP- WASHINGTON D.C. Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 7:40 AM

    Is this new? or from 2008?
    _______________________

    I wish this were true, but several sites like Snopes report it’s false. It’s been out there for a long time.

  21. Does anyone know if Michelle Bachmann publishes an electronic newletter, via email.? If so can you provide her website address?

  22. What is the bill number Bachman is referring to?

  23. FYI

    9:00pm 12/11/09 12:00am

    Hannity: Terror On Trial

    Al Qaeda terrorists trial steps from Ground Zero! Administration sees 9/11 as a crime rather than an act of war? The victims’ families speak out!

  24. Perhaps everything is quiet because the NATIVES are still full of gas from eating too much turkey, and dressing last week. If you think that is bad wait till you see the AFTER CHRISTMAS PAUSE……everybody will be very busy trying to reconcile their checkbooks.

  25. …………or will be wondering how the hell they are going to pay their credit cards.

  26. Thanks for all the help. It does seem to be the hoax from last year. Just for a moment, I wished it was still the America our Fathers fought for. A system of Truth and Justice. Although I must have be mistaken, we were sold out decades ago.

  27. I hate to say this but I am expecting the Soetoro goon squad to be sicced on to Bachmann. I look for her to be SILENCED! The Soetoro GOONS are experts at beating up on WOMEN!

  28. When the MEN come out to play Soetoro goons run away!

  29. Margie…….. It is all traceable to the PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT which began decades ago. Nowm it is compounded by the MARXIST nincompoops.

  30. Good afternoon everyone. Just checking in for a moment, trying to catch up. Thought this was worthy of a post.
    Here’s how things are done in NJ – ‘Democrats Change Inconvenient Rules”. This is a letter to the editor in my local paper today. Merry Christmas!

    http://www.app.com/article/20091210/OPINION04/912110319/1032/Democrats

  31. House Passes Sweeping Financial Oversight Bill (lets feds break up big risky companies)

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2405633/posts

  32. I believe my previous post is a good example of how the demoCRAPS operate nationwide.

  33. Nancy Drew…………………
    Good afternoon yourself! I have a thought regarding CHANGING the RULES. You can change the rules but it will be a cat of a different color to change what people think, and feel. This probably will trump rules changes; particularly AFTER an election. Sometimes somebody has the right bower guarded, and when they play it the game is over!

  34. Spitzer Might Run for New York State Comptroller.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2405609/posts

    “New York is one of the most unstable governments in the Union, as the state is deep in red ink, we have one of the most incompetent Governors ever to be in office, the corruption of Democrats has spread since all branches of Government are controlled by Democrats, and now we have the possibility of Eliot Spitzer running for public office again.”

  35. I think this will be the “Straw That Breaks The Camel’s(pardon the pun) Back”. Not only the whole financial structure of the world but our boy Tiger Woods who has $1.4 billion invested in Dubai World.

  36. House kills mortgage relief in Wall Street bill

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2405575/posts

  37. oldsalt77.
    I believe so.

  38. Just received this email:

    This bill (as Bachmann describes it) sets up a 5-member Panel (with an ACORN-like entity on it) that prevents the president from having to go to Congress to obtain money for BailOuts or any decisions having to do with the Financial Sector. It makes him autonomous with the assistance of this Board. This Board will control the flow of cash/credit throughout the US Economy. The bill was dropped by Barney Frank Monday (1300 pages) and passed today – Friday.

    I am watching C-Span. Nancy just threw down the gavel with a big smile on her face………..
    “Government Take-over of Financial Services” HR4173 just passed in the House 223 to 202………………
    this is ANOTHER SAD DAY FOR AMERICA

  39. FACTBOX: Keys to House financial regulation reform bill

    Reuters) – The House of Representatives passed historic legislation on Friday to overhaul financial regulation.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5B90LH20091211

  40. ACORN fraudulently PIMPED for Obama/Soetoro now he Owes them like he Promised in this video.

    Make sure you listen to what Obama promises to ACORN if he gets to be President Elect. Talk about Pay for Play??

  41. Michelle:

    Wonder what is going on?

    Google blocking Norway Spiral Photos

    http://www.repubx.com/

    Video: Similar Spiral seen over Russia in 2006 as in Norway recently

    http://www.repubx.com/

  42. My patience is just about at boiling point!!

  43. CW – I think I just heard on radio that HR4173 will not get to Senate until next year. Hopefully we will have recaptured the House and Senate. It ain’t over till the fat lady sings

  44. British Taxman Whacks ‘The City’

    By Larry Doyle on December 11, 2009 at 10:00 AM

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/12/11/british-taxman-whacks-the-city/

    Could this happen here?

  45. JOBS JOBS JOBS as far as the Lieberal eye can see but not for you and me.

    Today Barny Frank introduced another Job Creating Bill but ONLY Lieberals need apply.

    VOTE THE BASTARDS OUT all of them even the Republicans that didn’t start flipping desks and throwing chairs we are at the point now that we need LA type Riots in the Hall of Congress by the Republicans not just what Joe Wilson did by yelling out the TRUTH: “You LIE”

    Republicna need to take a “nutty” and start tearing that place apart

  46. JOBS JOBS JOBS as far as the Lieberal eye can see but not for you and me.

    Today Barny Frank introduced another Job Creating Bill but ONLY Lieberals need apply.

    VOTE THE BASTARDS OUT all of them even the Republicans that didn’t start flipping desks and throwing chairs we are at the point now that we need LA type Riots in the Hall of Congress by the Republicans not just what Joe Wilson did by yelling out the TRUTH: “You LIE”

    RepubliCANS need to take a “nutty” and start tearing that place apart if they are Patriots and see this TREASON going on. We need RepubliCANS to stand up organize and riot in the floor of CONgress.

  47. Al Qaeda, Jihadists and Afghanistan

    By Larry Johnson

    About: Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who moved subsequently in 1989 to the U.S. Department of State, where he served four years as the deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department’s Office of Counterterrorism. He left government service in October 1993 and set up a consulting business. He currently is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group) and is an expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, and crisis and risk management, and money laundering investigations. Johnson is the founder and main author of No Quarter, a weblog that addresses issues of terrorism and intelligence and politics. NoQuarterUSA was nominated as Best Political Blog of 2008.

    December 10, 2009 at 8:47 PM

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/12/10/al-qaeda-jihadists-and-afghanistan/

  48. We face a slow moving cancer within the Whitehouse. LIBERALISM. Since I lack the ability to provide the technical name for this disease, I will call it the CREEPING KRUD. I think this name is a bit crude,but I think what the name implies is quite accurate.
    While the pharmaceutical companies are scrambling to provide enought serum to cover the worldwide H1N1 virus they will soon find themselves being struck by the proponents of the CREEPING KRUD illness,which requires a fix that they cannot manufacture. This disease is very pervasive, and will require the attention of all patriots in this country to cast their vote against the people who are infected by this disease. It is a terminal illness, and they who have contracted it cannot be saved. It is an infection that involves the brain. Once in the brain it spreads very quickly, and turns the victim into a helpless robot.

  49. brought over…

    Thanks SueK and LindaNY about the global warming. I about freeked out looking at that
    iceberg heading to Australia. I pictured Australia “sunk” by the time the ice melted and
    flooded them all. Glad to know Al Gore is
    being challenged still. Scary stuff. In my
    world here (Ohio), I hope I’m “inland” far
    enough from any tidal waves.

    MERRY CHRISTMAS (not happy holidays)
    to ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

  50. I would like to see the squatters in the WH
    put a “spending freeze” on themselves—
    especially MO who is out-spending former First
    Ladies. The spending of tax payers money
    isn’t doing a thing for her, IMHO. Sarah Palin
    would look better in a “sack” than MO in anything. Hillary Clinton
    looks better in a pant suit. My Lhasa Apso
    looks better in a Petsmart sweater. Get my
    drift, I have more.

    Sue: Cricket looks better in a Pearl Necklace.

    Oink–Miss Piggy looks better in a tutu.

    O.K., I’m done. Sorry.

  51. Limbaugh talked to a Congressman who talked
    about an omnibus bill trying to be rammed through. I’m wondering if this is the same thing.
    The rep. said the Republican weren’t going to see it as they took it into committees behind closed doors. Does this make sense. It didn’t to me.
    ++++++++++++++
    Also, on the radio show this a.m., G. Beck talked
    about a “Super Tax.” That was confusing also.

  52. A caller to Limbaugh today talked about a
    very strange “children’s book” whose subject
    matter dealt with marriage—- a girl marrying
    any of the following: a flower, an animal,
    her father, and on and on—–
    This garbage MUST be stopped. Our kids
    will be so confused as they go through school
    today. This junk must end and NOW!

  53. Obama Administration has delivered up a small consolation prize: the state’s very own federal prison for terrorists. Big Government has received what is claimed to be a leaked DOJ memo that was allegedly sent yesterday from Eric Holder’s Department of Justice to Defense Secretary Robert Gates. Memo below:

    http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/11/exclusive-leaked-justice-department-memo-terrorists-to-be-moved-to-camp-gitmo-illinois/

  54. Happy (erev) Chanukah. Shalom.

    (Jewish holidays begin at sundown and so, this is the evening, or erev, of the first day of Chanukah.)

  55. Hi Maddie,

    I read where you have a Lhasa Apso. I have one also. I think they are the best of the Temple dogs!!!

    The one have has a very gentle spirit about him. It is said the the Lhasa Apso brings “peace and calm” to the household. Well, that describes mine to a tee!

    He’s always a good boy. Well, he can be very arrogant at times, oh, and stubborn, and manipulative. LOL!

    It’s always nice to met other Lhasa owners!

  56. I hope the good folks of illnois rally against this fraudsters plans

  57. Maddie // December 11, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Hi Maddie,

    My pleasure!

    I got a little ahead of myself by using ‘iceberg’ and ‘glacier’ interchangeably. Of course, the glacier is the larger ice mass and the icebergs calve from the glaciers; icebergs themselves calve, too! I know what I’m talking about. Occasionally.

    I’m sure that there’s a way to smash that berg up so that it doesn’t threaten the Australian landmass. Maybe Algore could breathe on it-that’d be enough hot air to turn the poor thing into a liquid in seconds…

    And yes, Cricket has his own natural pearl necklace! It does look good on him :).

  58. Maddie,

    the Omnibus Bill usually covers operational budgets for a number of government agencies/departments lumped together. I think the bill Bachman is referring to is different. But…there’s no mention of bill number and little info on what she’s sounding the alarm on.

    I listened to the interview twice. I have a feeling, combined with other information, part of the bill (her #3 point) is a prelude to a cashless society – at the very least it’s probably laying the groundwork for it.

    Remember they are trying to get the number of banks down to 9 – easier to control that way. The so called “stress tests” would allow the govt the leverage to shut them down at will. It’s a process, but always have to look at the bigger picture.

    The cashless society is also tied in with the healthcare bill – which is going to pass. It’s also tied into the global warming scam.

  59. Glenn Beck is Great tonight. Covering all bases.

  60. For those interested…related info from previous thread.

    RON PAUL interview with Alex Jones today covering auditing the Fed, the healthcare bill passing, global warming and future of the economy. Some good new, some not so good news.

    He gives kudos to the grassroots efforts and shows how much power they have.

    Listen here:
    [audio src="http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/alex/1211091.mp3" /]

  61. Margie and all,

    There was something interesting that actually happened at the Supreme Court today. They conferenced about hearing the case regarding pension investments being dissolved by Chrysler, with obvious help from the Obama admin. The SCOTUS blog announced this morning that it was one one of the cases to watch today. I do not think that was the case with any of the citizenship cases. Here is the link:
    http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/petitions-to-watch-conference-of-12-11-09/#more-13686

    Scroll down to:
    Indiana State Police Pension Trust v. Chrysler, LLC

    What was the name of the supposed insider that was posting that the SCOTUS would not hear any of the citizenship cases, before the SCOTUS announcements? I’d like to search and see if he/she wrote anything about today.

  62. zachjonesishome

    jbjd – Happy (erev) Chanukah. Shalom.

    (Jewish holidays begin at sundown and so, this is the evening, or erev, of the first day of Chanukah.)

    Thank you and to you. My wife is Jewish and we celebrate Chanukah & Passover

    Zach

  63. I do not understand why the Supreme Court will not settle this once and for all. Why do they hate America??? I want them all to suffer, like we have to.

  64. Ladyhawke, Thanks for the site, another one I will keep an eye on. Has anyone ever spoken to anyone working at the Supreme Court? The phone numbers I had only get you a recording.

  65. Glenn going to show Nancy and her bill passing NOW.

  66. Margie and Everyone,

    I am not making excuses for any decisions handed down by the SCOTUS, based on procedural or substantive laws, when I say this but rather, I only want to point out a fundamental methodology of interpretation, whether legal meaning, legal precedent, or statutory construction.

    In general, given the proposition that everyone has an opinion, the rule is, if the tribunal interprets the question it is charged with deciding; in a way that is possible, all things considered then, deference goes to the tribunal. For example, if the lower court interprets the Constitutionality of a statute, if possible, it will find that statute Constitutional in deference to the lawfully elected/appointed state or federal legislature that passed the law.

    And the appeals court will defer to the lower court, etc.

  67. jbjd / 5:07 pm
    Shalom to you to and Happy (erev) Chanukah.
    and after an outcry from citizens of all faiths Menorah is in Delray Beach.
    POSTED: 3:17 pm EST December 11, 2009
    DELRAY BEACH, Fla. — In town from Jacksonville, Preston Talbot, 4, can’t believe the holiday display at Old School Square.
    “It’s huge,” Talbot said of the 100-foot tall Christmas tree.
    His mother was just as awestruck.
    “And then when you stand in the middle to look all the way up to see how tall that is, it’s a very tall tree,” Rebecca Faulk said.
    What the family didn’t see Friday morning was a menorah. It was omitted from Delray Beach’s holiday display this year.
    But that all changed after a public outcry. City leaders scrambled to find a suitable candelabrum, and within a day, one was born.
    “It came in as steel,” said Bill Emery, of Brandano Displays. “The welder had to bend the pieces, weld it. We had to paint it. (It) had to be bulbed. So, basically, in less than 24 hours, that was made.”
    The company, hired to provide some of the secular light displays, donated the menorah after the controversy.
    Emery, who installs displays all over South Florida, found the flash bulbs and television camera recording the set-up took a little getting used to.
    “I think a lot of people in Delray missed it and they should be feeling like they’re represented now,” said resident Steve Manning, who stopped to take a picture. “I’ve always grown up with a Christmas tree myself, but I think everyone needs to have some representation during the holidays.”
    Mayor Nelson “Woodie” McDuffie stopped by to survey the scene.
    “It’s brought a sense of well-being to Delray,” McDuffie said. “The feelings have changed already all over town right now. My e-mail is now very complimentary.”

  68. For anyone interested the supposed SCOTUS insider that was scooping the actual SCOTUS announcements was named “lawdawg.”

    A short search seems to indicate no postings on the Chrysler/Bondholder lawsuit.

  69. #

    Ladyhawke // December 11, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    For anyone interested the supposed SCOTUS insider that was scooping the actual SCOTUS announcements was named “lawdawg.”

    A short search seems to indicate no postings on the Chrysler/Bondholder lawsuit.
    ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

    lawdawg is an OBOT who used to post a lot at TRSOL!

  70. citizenwells // December 11, 2009 at 3:37 pm
    Just received this email:
    This bill (as Bachmann describes it) sets up a 5-member Panel (with an ACORN-like entity on it) that prevents the president from having to go to Congress to obtain money for BailOuts or any decisions having to do with the Financial Sector. It makes him autonomous with the assistance of this Board. This Board will control the flow of cash/credit throughout the US Economy. The bill was dropped by Barney Frank Monday (1300 pages) and passed today – Friday.

    I am watching C-Span. Nancy just threw down the gavel with a big smile on her face………..
    “Government Take-over of Financial Services” HR4173 just passed in the House 223 to 202………………
    this is ANOTHER SAD DAY FOR AMERICA
    ==========================

    (sobbing, because of what I see happening to my counrty)
    How can this happen? Congress is giving up their Constitutional right of controlling the purse strings to a panel that answers to the President?? Isn’t this unconstitutional????

  71. Just Me:

    Please see my post @ 3:48 PM. The provisions of this bill are discussed.

    Bill No. is HR 4173.

    Happy Night…Linda

  72. Just Me,
    Thank you for the clarification on Omnibus Bill–
    politics was not my field by a long shot. Now I
    believe we’re all learning even more than we
    ever thought!
    After listening to G. Beck today and more comments on gold I think we all had better
    start thinking out of the box. For example,
    did you know you can buy someone a heifer
    for $50—-it would provide milk for your
    family (now this is as far as I go—live in the country, but I’m no farmer). I am thinking
    of selling my house and moving to a small farm where we could quickly learn how to raise
    livestock (chickens, pigs, sheep, a cow or two,
    and whatever else is good in a pinch). What
    do you think of that idea? I’d like a llama
    or alpaca (but alpacas are expensive, just checked on the Net—plus sheep are cheaper
    and provide fiber).

  73. Hi Reese & Lhasa,
    Glad to hear there is another Lhasa Apso owner
    here. They are dear little Tibetan guard dogs
    (inside). The first Lhasa we had took his guard
    duty to the extreme, but we loved him nonetheless. Our second Lhasa (the one we have now) is smaller, and she is calm (inside) and like
    a lioness outside (will go up to big dogs and let
    them know she “owns” the street). Lhasas are
    intelligent, imo; I have just started “reading”
    Christmas stories to her–she will look up at
    me, look at the page, and wait for me to turn it.
    It’s a little strange—but she’s the one who
    started this with her head on my knee, looking
    at the book.
    Glad you let me know —keep me informed
    about your pal.

  74. Hi SueK—
    Glad to know that glaciers and icebergs are
    different and that calves can be broken off of
    icebergs (and have nothing to do with baby cows). These global warming gurus are making us all nervous, especially when I heard these scientists didn’t want to reveal their data. What’s up with that?

    It’s still freezing over here—not a bit of
    global warming in sight!

  75. (sobbing, because of what I see happening to my counrty)
    How can this happen? Congress is giving up their Constitutional right of controlling the purse strings to a panel that answers to the President?? Isn’t this unconstitutional????

    Jonah,
    How can a 5-member panel control all this and
    just answer to the President who can dip his hand in over and over for more money.

    This almost sounds like a step to totally
    get rid on the Congress completely some day
    and only have a 5-member Panel (like a Russian Troika with 5)
    with the Head Dictator Commie himself
    in continuous power. I am sitting here thinking am I going nuts with this thinking.

  76. DenisetheMenace

    Maddie,

    By congress giving up their rights to the purse strings….. (reminiscent of Germany)
    I feel like he cannot let the power go to any next president who may reverse this – therefore, he cannot allow the next election……

    Does this go too far???

  77. Maddie // December 11, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    I wish there were simple answers. They have already taken steps to make sure we can’t be self sufficient, in so far as raising our own food. There are taxes on chickens, cattle, etc…that are more than the cost of the chicken. I kid you not.

    Of course these farm animals have to be “registered” with the govt, as do any vegetables you grow and sell. Oh yes, they’ve thought of everything. All under the guise of protecting us from some bad bacteria or whatever the heck else they dream up.

    Right now there are laws on the books that require people who sell produce in roadside markets or farmer’s markets to fill out paperwork on produce sold so they can “track” this stuff in case someone falls ill. Not many bother to do it. It’s all about control.

    It’s so Orwellian I am embarrassed to write about it here.

    You control the food supply, you control the world.

  78. Maddie // December 11, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    Hi Maddie,

    Yup, icebergs come off glaciers and are the ‘kids’ of the larger ice formation. Nothing to do with cows!

    Don’t let them get ya all nervy-the numbers and trends were all cooked.

    This seems to be a pattern-change the results to suit your needs; just another way to stick it to us! Much the same thing as what happened when Kennedy died-the law was changed to allow the ‘governor’ to appoint an interim Senator so he could vote on DeathCare. That was accomplished by appointing Paul Kirk, who was Kennedy’s pal.

    Don’t like the rules, or the outcome of the research? Change it so you can get your way. This is happening more and more and the global warming stats and Paul Kirk are small potatoes compared to what they’re really doing behind closed doors.

    24 degrees here-didn’t even crack freezing today. Global warming, indeed!

  79. Mortgage Cram-Downs Revisited

    Posted by Larry Doyle on December 11th, 2009 2:03 PM

    http://www.senseoncents.com/

  80. It’s bad when acorn cookies are served at the White House. It’s a slap in the face of every red-blooded American taxpayer.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/09/white-houses-acorn-cookies-surprises-republican-lawmaker/

    A bigger slap is Obama wanting to take Christ out of Christmas and make this a “holiday” season. They’re playing with fire and we’re all going to get burned.
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=118351

  81. What?

    Judge Rules Effort to Strip ACORN of Federal Funds Unconstitutional

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12
    /11/judge-rules-effort-strip-acorn-federal-funds-unconstitutional/

  82. The Name of the Game…

    Judd Gregg: No Added TARP $$ for Government

    http://video.foxsmallbusinesscenter.com/12396520/judd-gregg-no-added-tarp–for-government

  83. Linda NY,

    Thank you. I’ll have a look.

    Curious, I tuned in to Beck. He gave it a gratuitous mention – maybe all of a few seconds. If this is so alarming, as Bachman indicated, WHY has it gotten this far this fast?

  84. DenisetheMenace,

    therefore, he cannot allow the next election……

    Does this go too far???

    ++++++++
    I can see what you mean.
    Are we looking at a totalitarian dictatorship
    ahead? America will not stand for that
    end result.

  85. Laura Ingram filling in for O’Reilly tonight
    interviewed a Canadian who debated with Laura
    the idea of limiting the number of children couples could have—like Chinese 1 child situation. Idea was to keep world’s population down, save resources, less polution, etc.
    Laura gave her h*ll, bringing in the Catholic
    Church and what would they do.
    Thoughts???

  86. Oh, yes, Obama prays all right: in a White House mosque

    http://americangrandjury.org/oh-yes-obama-prays-all-right-in-a-white-house-mosque

    Unbelievable pix!

  87. Just Me,
    So, if I get the little farm (and I mean really little)
    I have to “register” my chickens (how ’bout if
    just 5?), and the hand full of other animals?
    If I have a garden just for family consumption,
    do I have to “report” it? I hope not on that one!

  88. Remember this treason before the inauguration?
    Oathgate Revisited
    THE ARTICLE II RED-HERRING
    by Jane Menta
    http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/11/oathgate-revisited/#comments

  89. LindaNY,
    Is this pix inside the WH? Someone commented
    on the arches in the pix. He Obama built a
    mosque inside the WH? in the basement maybe?

    Why is he doing this? I thought he was a Christian. I believe he told us he was a Christian
    and member of the Trinity Church of Christ
    (earlier in the primaries). This Usurper
    has a lot of ‘splaining to do!!!

  90. Linda,
    I just thought of something about the arches—
    they could just be cardboard cutouts to give
    “atmosphere.”

  91. tminu // December 11, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    Hi tminu,

    Yes, I saw that article and commented on it.

    Something always bothered me about that oath and the do-over.

    Folks were saying that the Bible wasn’t used in the do-over, but I believe that’s more tradition than a requirement. His usurping Muslim hand probably burned a hole in that historic Bible on 1/20, anyway.

    Thanks for posting!

  92. Are Americans Too Broken for the Truth to Set Us Free?

    http://www.repubx.com/

  93. Maddie:

    I don’t know about you, but I did not believe he was a Christian for one NY minute. There was no doubt in my mind he was a Muslim.

    Everything he has done since he “stole” our WH has been to appease the Muslims and degrade our country. In his speech to the Muslim nations, he bragged he was a Muslim on three continents. Doesn’t that make you feel all warm and fuzzy? I didn’t think so.

    This does not surprise me in the slightest, but it does sicken me.

    Happy Night…Linda

  94. Maddie,

    I saw Laura grill her on the 1 child policy. I do like Laura. But…come on, the woman was so obviously shallow in making her points. I believe that to be nothing more than a “performance.” Fair and balanced as long as it can be “one upped.” It’s never a REAL debate with true opposition. It would destroy their ratings.

    What was made evident today with China’s declaration of a 1 child policy was simply this…China is now in the driver’s seat. And… we have us to thank for that. Our houses are full of their crap.

  95. Hi, Maddie:

    The leftards have no right to tell people how many children they can have or when they can have them, etc. Honestly, these mentally ill folks have a very high opinion of themselves, which goes over the border and touches upon arrogance.

    If they realized who they were and what will happen in our creator’s plan, they should be kissing the ground that they walk on and realizing who we are as mankind. I.e., even Abraham, who was a friend of Yahweh and a prophet and will be like #3 in his government, knew that he was but dust and ashes.

    For example:

    Gen 18:26 And Yahweh said, If I find fifty righteous within the city, in Sodom, then I will spare all the place because of them.
    Gen 18:27 And Abraham answered and said, Behold, I pray, I have undertaken to speak to the sovereign (i.e, Yahweh), and I AM BUT DUST AND ASH.

    Do the leftards take this humble stand? Do they think that they can somehow change things with their false religion?

    Somehow these guys think that they have control. This is just so laughable. It’s Yahweh who has control. Not them!

    All these guys are here for are to rob folks blind, including the poor people of the earth. Just so sick.

  96. Linda NY, et al

    I couldn’t decipher anything from the Reuters summary of the bill passed today. I just found this. I’m not sure it’s as bad as we were led to believe. Maybe Bachman was more concerned about ACORN having a seat at the council’s table. But, honestly, I’m still trying to understand EXACTLY what it is. Thoughts?

    I posted the mp3 file of Ron Paul earlier today and his mentioning of this. I just didn’t know THIS was the bill/amendment he was talking about. Neither he nor Bachman bothered to give the bill number.

    Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act Passes in the House

    http://www.infowars.com/wall-street-reform-and-consumer-protection-act-passes-in-the-house/

  97. Linda NY, et al

    excuse the inaccuracy in my post at 9:11. After reading more of the article on infowars.com, looks like Ron Paul opposed this bill and voted against it even though it contained a provision to audit the Fed.

    I’m tired and didn’t read the article carefully. Sorry.

    This article on infowars.com is more informative than the Reuters article.

  98. Just Me,
    Glad you saw it, too. As you said, it wasn’t a
    true debate, that’s for sure.

  99. Hannity on now with a good program on
    “Terrorism”—glad he’s doing this, we need
    to keep this uppermost in our minds.
    There is still a “War on Terror” whether of not
    Obama thinks there is!

  100. Linda,
    I agree. I thought he was a “closet Muslim.”
    By the looks of that pix, he’s out of the closet
    in some mosque —wonder if this is really INSIDE the WH and it not, where is it?

    Looks like he knows what to do, as a Muslim,
    taking off the shoes, etc.

  101. Hi Kittycat,
    That’s right. These idiots in DC are not in charge, and that’s the best way to think to remember that this DC bunch will not have the
    last word.
    These crooks are going to try to put as many taxes on us as they can dream up. In Ohio there are lots of people needing vouchers for clothes and going to food banks, etc. lots of job loss, too.

  102. Maddie,

    here ya go…Chippin your chickens….

    http://news.goldseek.com/DollarCollapse/1251312720.php

    the article links to an article by Ron Paul, as well as a couple of videos.

  103. JBJD!

    Been looking for you.

    Do you have any copies of the bho election certification letters signed by pelosi?

    I need copies of the two that show the different text. Going to force the issue with my elected official real soon.

    CW can give you my e-mail address.

    Thanks.

  104. Hannity’s asking if the Pres. could be asked to
    change his mind on the trial of this terrorist in
    NYC—they just voted in this audience—
    unanimous (except for 1) for NOT having this
    trial in NYC.

  105. TO:

    Linda from NY // December 11, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Oh, yes, Obama prays all right: in a White House mosque

    http://americangrandjury.org/oh-yes-obama-prays-all-right-in-a-white-house-mosque

    Unbelievable pix!

    ========================

    Where are the foot baths? Soon there will be a pork bill to have them installed in the District of Criminals. After all the Constitution says spearation of church and state NOT separation of mosque and state .

    Republicans better start throwin chairs and body slamming we need a Vince McMahon and the WWE action by Republicans in Congress.

  106. TO:

    Maddie // December 11, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Just Me,
    So, if I get the little farm (and I mean really little)
    I have to “register” my chickens (how ’bout if
    just 5?), and the hand full of other animals?
    If I have a garden just for family consumption,
    do I have to “report” it? I hope not on that one!
    ===============

    Didn’t these CONS just intorduce some bill to have a carbon tax on milk cows, pigs, etc?

  107. Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero - Peter Francisco

    TO:

    Maddie // December 11, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    LindaNY,
    Is this pix inside the WH? Someone commented
    on the arches in the pix. He Obama built a
    mosque inside the WH? in the basement maybe?

    Why is he doing this? I thought he was a Christian. I believe he told us he was a Christian
    and member of the Trinity Church of Christ
    (earlier in the primaries). This Usurper
    has a lot of ’splaining to do!!!

    =================
    Trinity Church of Christ is a MOSQUE in church clothing and they are muslims under cover of “christianity” just like Louis Farrakhan the Nation of ISLAM (meaning MUSLIM) another MOSQUE pretending to be a church.

  108. Everyone needs to refresh their knowledge the Koran allows for Muslims to pretend to be Christians in order to Convert or Decapitate.

  109. Just Me,
    Thank you so much for posting the link above.
    Even while reading it, it’s hard to believe this
    is going to happen. I don’t want to “chip” the
    animals! This is crazy. Mine will be “undercover” animal-agents!

  110. Father of a son killed in 9/11 said:

    Obama lied to us (preferring to having met with
    Pres. )
    Obama sympathizes with terrorists!!!!!!!!

  111. The new “omnibus bill” has the 15 million dollar gift to Ireland (a nation in far better economic condition than the usa) but wait there is more, this money also has a 3 million dollar increase this year, why are we giving Ireland 18 million for nothing?

    This same bill has over 5000 earmarks in it. I thought we were going to control earmarks and spending?

    Omnibus Problem : Questionable Spending

    The Omnibus bill contains questionable spending, including the following:

    $545 million for State Department to fund foreign family planning programs, funds that will flow to abortion providers now that the Mexico City Policy has been repealed by the Obama Administration.

    $181 million for the Neighborhood Reinvestment Corporation for housing counseling. ACORN has been a past recipient of such funding.

    $155 million for the National Endowment for the Arts, in addition to the $50 million for the NEA provided in the stimulus bill

    $15 million for the International Fund for Ireland

    $15 million for a new building for the House of Representatives

    $500,000 for the National History Day Contest

    Omnibus Problem: Earmarks

    The Omnibus bill contains roughly 5,000 earmarks totaling $7.7 billion. Since the Omnibus bill will come to the floor under closed rule, Congress will not amend or debate these earmarks.

    $2.7 million for the Wood Education and Resource Center in West Virginia

    $2 million for the promotion of astronomy in Hawaii

    $1.9 million for the Pleasure Beach Water Taxi Service Project in Connecticut

    $1 million to research red snapper in Florida

    $950,000 for a bike path in Wisconsin

    $950,000 for a National Council of La Raza loan fund for the “community development activities”

    $900,000 for planetarium equipment in Chicago

    $500,000 for a Native Hawaiian Culture and Arts Program

    $285,000 for Native Hawaiians Organizations Association entrepreneurial development

    $167,000 for the (Gene) Autry National Center for the American West

    $122,000 for the Greater Toledo Arts Commission Creative Industry Development

    $100,000 for the Seals as Sentinels program in Maine

    House passes $1.1 trillion omnibus spending bill “more than 5,000 back-home projects sought by lawmakers.”

    December 10, 2009
    ASSOCIATED PRESS
    WASHINGTON — The House Thursday passed a huge spending measure combining major spending boosts for domestic agencies and foreign aid with more than 5,000 back-home projects sought by lawmakers.

    The 1,088-page, $1.1 trillion measure would provide $447 billion in operating budgets for 10 Cabinet departments, awarding increases averaging almost 10 percent. On top of that comes more than $600 billion in payments for federal benefit programs such as Medicare and Medicaid.

    The 221-202 vote to approve the House-Senate compromise bill sends it to the Senate, which may pass it this weekend and ship it on to President Barack Obama. Not a single Republican voted for the bill.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1932454,house-omnibus-spending-bill-passes-1210009.article

  112. The 9/11 survivors in Sean’s audience are
    crying —- they can’t believe “this president”
    is going to let this terrorist trial go on.

    I don’t know about you, but I can’t believe
    any of our Presidents we have had in the past
    40 years or so who would have ever agreed to try an enemy combattant with full civilian rights.

  113. Reese,

    thanks for posting the breakdown of this bill. Disgusting what they hide in these bills that are supposedly operational budgets.

    Meanwhile the number of people on food stamps skyrockets. Unbelievable.

  114. Maddie // December 11, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    The 9/11 survivors in Sean’s audience are
    crying —- they can’t believe “this president”
    is going to let this terrorist trial go on.

    I don’t know about you, but I can’t believe
    any of our Presidents we have had in the past
    40 years or so who would have ever agreed to try an enemy combattant with full civilian rights.

    ****************************8
    Maddie,……. Our other Presidents LOVED AMERICA,….and they were not muslim trying to destroy America.
    We need to find someone who can stand up to the administration and start the process of TREASON. That one guy on Hannity said it too.
    Also Dick Cheney said it on Hannity the other night. WHO CAN GET THIS GOING?

  115. Maddie,

    I realize this trial situation is distressing for many, but I heard it was appropriate and within the realm of the Constitution from Judge Napolitano and others because war was never declared.

    We invaded, so using a military tribunal doesn’t work. Just a minor detail that no one is talking about.

  116. Cheney should be in prison. He’s the real terrorist.

  117. Reese,
    Details of expenditures are amazing…
    almost a $mil for a bike path? Has blacktop gone up that much? The “water taxi”—
    project ? Now, on the “seal sentinels”–
    that’s one I want to research. Are the seals
    on the payroll?
    Thanks for the interesting post, Reese.

  118. PRWH, Thanks for the info.; I had not thought of the Trinity Church as a mosque. I makes
    sense though.

    Trinity Church of Christ is a MOSQUE in church clothing and they are muslims under cover of “christianity” just like Louis Farrakhan the Nation of ISLAM (meaning MUSLIM) another MOSQUE pretending to be a church

  119. The reason Obama and Holder want this trial in NYC, is because now KSM will be moved into a federal court system, where he now has constitutional rights.

    Since he’s now basically a US citizen with full constitutional rights, all the evidence gathered on him by way of ‘torture or water boarding’ will not be admissible in a federal court.

    Khaleid Sheik Mohammad will walk free, and probably be able to file a counter suit against the United States for torturing him.

    Treason!

  120. Just received this:

    We just learned that the House Republicans are going to force a vote on Friday to end the TARP program, and use all the unspent TARP funds to reduce our national debt.

    Please pick up the phone, and urge your representative to support this measure.

    To be exact, tell your representative to vote for the motion to recommit on H.R. 4173.

    Here’s the number for the main switchboard: 202-224-3121.

    Sincerely,

    Dan Varroney
    Chief Operating Officer
    American Solutions

  121. JoyceAZ—
    You’re correct, other Presidents believed in
    America and were not out putting this country
    down. Do you think that the rest of the world realizes what Americans are really thinking
    about this mess over here?

  122. JustMe // December 11, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Cheney should be in prison. He’s the real terrorist.
    *******
    You know about Halliburton, and his other company, the drugs, smuggling arms, etc., his involvemant in 9/11???

  123. The South—
    If this b_____ goes free I don’t have printable
    words to describe here what should happen to
    those who allowed this trial to go forward.

  124. CA Patriot,

    One article that has both images posted is http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/if-drowning-out-opposing-facts-is-un-american-then-ignoring-unpleasant-facts-must-be-un-american-too/. But make sure you understand that, some state laws like those in HI and SC, require the specific wording that the party candidate is eligible for the job. (For the statement in SC, see http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/if-it-looks-like-a-duck/.) Also, read at least one of the complaints of election fraud to state A’sG, on the front page of the blog, so that you understand the true nature of the election fraud I allege lies in the fact, members of the D party Certified to state election officials BO was Constitutionally qualified for POTUS, whether explicitly or indirectly, to get his name printed on state ballots; when no documentary evidence existed in the public record from which they could have ascertained this status, beforehand.

  125. Peter:

    The Koran instructs the devout to lie if it means they can keep their true intentions from the infidels. They are not to be-friend the infidels; just fool them into thinking they are peaceful and not militant in any way.

    Isn’t it amazing how well pp lies? Wonder if he practiced that in his Muslim school, and that is why it does not bother him when his lies are discovered. When he is caught, his expression is non-existent. Then, he just tells another lie more outrageous than the previous one. That is why no contract went out on him even though he said he was a Christian; they knew he was lying, and that he did not convert.

    Peace…Linda

  126. JustMe—
    I thought KSM qualified for a military tribunal,
    no?? He has already pleaded guilty. Why is
    it necessary to drag him to NYC in the face of
    the 9/11 families? Bad decision by a bad usurping POTUS and his bad AG, imho.

  127. JJ,
    JJ // December 11, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Just received this:

    We just learned that the House Republicans are going to force a vote on Friday to end the TARP program, and use all the unspent TARP funds to reduce our national debt

    ++++++++++++++
    Good news, hope it happens.

  128. Suggestion:

    Job Opening in DC:

    “BIRTH CERTIFICATE” CZAR needed in
    the White House.

    Duties: DIG UP Authentic COLB out of
    Obama’s _ _ _ _ .

  129. Seals for Sentinels….

    Susan Shaw, the energetic executive director of the Marine Environmental Research Institute (MERI) in Blue Hill, Maine, believes that seals in the Gulf of Maine can alert us to threats to human health. “Just as the songbirds in Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring warned of the approaching dangers of DDT pollution, so can observations of our local seal population inform us of imminent threats,” she says. “Wildlife signal us about toxic chemicals in our shared environment, and we need to read the signals correctly.”

    Maine Gulf Times

  130. IS OBAMA REALLY PREPARING FOR CIVIL WAR?

    http://www.repubx.com/

    You betcha!

  131. Maddie,

    What has been reported as the constitutionality is the distinction of declaring war versus invading.

    We invaded Iraq. If we had declared war, Congress would have been involved and other parameters would have had to be followed. Bush/Cheney were shrewd in how to get around this.

    Recently, it was also revealed that Tony Blair was well aware there were no weapons of mass destruction (WMD’s) at least 10 days prior to the invasion.

    Cheney purchased property in Dubai fearful of being charged with war crimes – which he is guilty of – there’s no extradition treaty in place. Bush purchased property in Paraguay for the same reason – there’s no extradition treaty in place.

  132. This afternoon at WOR radio station in N.Y. the Steve Malsberg Show ( forgive the misspelling of his last name) Steve received a call from one of the listeners about Omaba’s BC saying why has Obama not shown the original birth certificate and Steve went all out with this no only he mentioned the birth certificate but also the other records that Obama refuses to produce.

    Patriots, little by little, drip by drip this issue will be in the forefront of the nation real soon. lets keep pushing and asking talk radio and tv hosts to start pushing this issue. do not dispare, the truth and GOD is on our side.

  133. Justme,….. No One will ever convince me that Saddam Hussain did NOT have WMDs. They were moved. Maybe they weren’t the newest type,….. but, I fully believe that they were there. You want to know why they weren’t found,… right?
    Well, Saddam had lots of friends. Some other country has them. Iran,…. Syria,… among a few.
    I know that President Bush wasn’t the most perfect president. (and I didn’t really care too much for cheney),…. BUT,… they sure in hell were better than what is leading this country right now. THAT is MY HONEST non bias OPINION!

  134. NBC documentary about OBAMA eligibility for presidency

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

  135. Maddie @ 9:57 “Obama sympathizes with terrorists!!!!!!!!”
    Well then you also sympathize with murderers which is what terrorists really are, the SS, Nazi’s, and every murderer since Cain. If/when you sympathize with murderers you are a co-conspirator in their crime because you are essentially saying you approve of the murders.

  136. http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/11/obamas-holiday-bribes/

    Guess whose using your tax money to bribe journalists to follow him to Hawaii…

    A Post & Email exclusive…

  137. Another flight disrupted by a group of muslims?

    This makes two of these stories not covered in the media. Whether true or not, it’s a powerful reminder to stay alert, be aware, and listen to your instincts!!

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/17836

  138. just wondering

    This came to me via e-mail today…I saw aomeone post about it earlier:
    AP- WASHINGTON D.C. – In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency,the group “Americans for Freedom of Information”
    has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College . Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry
    Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court
    order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for
    foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, forthe scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
    This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups,

    Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

    Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent
    upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep
    indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on
    the matter.

    LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T !

    Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?

    While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama
    answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?

    So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket,suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

    And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

    The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and
    simple one.

    Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
    A : Yes, by his own admission.

    Q: What passport did he travel under?
    A: There are only three possibilities.
    1) He traveled with a U.S. . Passport,
    2) He traveled with a British passport, or
    3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

    Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S.
    Passport in 1981?
    A: No.. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State
    Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

    Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was
    traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

    If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling
    with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

    Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “naturalborn” American citizen between 1981 and 2008..

    Given the destructive nature of his plans for America , as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress,the
    sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.

    If you Don’t care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this and go into your cocoon.

    If you do care then Forward this!

  139. joyceaz // December 11, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Hi Joyce,

    You’re 100% right about the WMDs. I’ve mentioned this before, but it bears repeating.

    Remember how Saddam was refusing access to the weapons inspectors on a constant basis? He was moving everything (mostly, to Syria) and what he couldn’t move, he buried. Whole chemical and bio labs were ‘dug up’ in the desert, and they were NOT mom and pop operations. These were sophisticated labs capable of producing bio and chem weapons ‘en masse.’

    Sorry, but I can’t quote a source for this as it was work-related, but this is known via reports from the field in Iraq.

    For those who beat the drum and insist that there were no WMDs, I say just ask the Kurds who were gassed with a very inhuman combo of chemicals, many of which were in the mustard class.

    Just ask them…

  140. Law and Order did an episode based on Acorn. Their Acorn was really bad: among the crimes committed by the Acorn people were adultery, intimidation, pay-offs, murder, money laundering,extortion,cover-ups (multiple)-murder victim found in front of Federal Reserve Bank in NY, with FED written on his chest.

  141. Katie // December 11, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Another flight disrupted by a group of muslims?

    This makes two of these stories not covered in the media
    ******************************
    Thanks Katie, This is a real eye opener. Another case of Political Correctness. Don’t know why the MSM feels that it is not news worthy. I sent the article to Greta, Glenn, O’reilly, Hannity. I asked them why no one felt that it was important enough to report on. I know I will new receive an answer, but, hopefully someone will investigate it.
    POLITICAL CORRECTNESS WILL END UP KILLING US.

  142. just wondering // December 11, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Hi just wondering,

    I’m afraid that info is very old; there is no such group as the “Americans for Freedom of Information.”

    It was an April Fools joke.

  143. SueK,….. Exactally. Just ask the families of the dead. Saddam had lots of time to move them. The desert over there is very large,… and he has lots of friends.

  144. joyceaz
    Many times when I had to go to O’Hare I saw various airport personnel explain to various members of the flying public THE RULES.
    http://www.smilinjack.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=000283
    Captains Bob and Randy,
    I really do get weary hearing of pilots complaining about the erosion of their authority to command their flight. If a captain’s authority is diminished who’s fault is it other than the captain who relinquished that authority?
    FAR 91.3 clearly states, “The pilot in command of an aircraft is directly responsible for, and is the final authority as to, the operation of that aircraft.” The question that often arises is when does the captain assume that final authority and responsibility for the operation of that aircraft and flight.
    FAR 91.103 states, “Each pilot in command shall, before beginning a flight, become familiar with all available information concerning that flight. This information must include–

  145. Michelle // December 11, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    joyceaz
    Many times when I had to go to O’Hare I saw various airport personnel
    *********************
    Michelle,……… It must be very difficult for the whole crew. I fly a couple times a year. Yes, I do watch my surroundings and I do PROFILE. I just want to be ready for everything,…and ANYTHING.
    The muslims know that they will be able to get by with anything now,….. there is one of them in OUR White House. And he will side with the terrorists. The writing is on the wall and it is very plain to see.

  146. http://hillbuzz.org/ Sometimes in Chicago “rumors” would start and take on a life of their own, this is sad.
    The black community believes it is getting “Slavery Reparations” from Dr. Utopia before he leaves office. They call this “Obama Money”, and expect it to be tens of thousands of dollars each, delivered in the form of a check from the White House to them.
    We wish we were kidding, but we hear this all the time in Chicago. People on the trains and buses talk about it nonstop. The other day, in fact, we were on the Halsted bus headed downtown when we passed a cop car, lights flashing, talking to a motorist who was black. A black man in front of us shouted loudly through the closed window, “Leave him alone! He ain’t did nothing! You’s just hassling him ’cause he black. Let him go! He ain’t did nothing! He’ll learn you when he gets his Obama Money in the mail. Then you won’t be hassling nobody, damn white devil.”
    That’s an exact quote, by the way. And it wasn’t a crazy homeless black man shouting that: it was someone who looked liked he worked a steady job, wearing nice clothes, who otherwise seemed like a normal, rational man.
    There’s the famous clip Rush Limbaugh runs of blacks somewhere waiting at a government office for checks that they thought they could pick up: and they say the same things about “Obama Money” coming to them. The reporter asks where this money comes from and they say, “Duh, it’s from Obama. It Obama money. Don’t know where he gets it. Don’t care. It’s from his stash.”
    Then these people laugh: Heh, heh, heh.
    It’s ridiculous, and almost funny, until you realize they really think they are going to get “Obama Money” in the mail.
    To many of them, “Obama Money” seems to be some sort of “Slavery Reparations” money.

  147. joyceaz // December 11, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    Yup, Joyce, a ton of time to move/bury the weapons.

    People have asked me over the years why these WMD ‘discoveries’ weren’t reported in the media. While I don’t know for sure (even though we know how the MSM *always* reports the truth) I have a simple theory:

    The press hated Bush as much as they love Barky. By not reporting this, going into Iraq would be construed as a senseless war, and Bush ridiculed that much more; of course, this did happen.

    Now that we know the capabilities of the MSM to knowingly report false info and/or sit on the truth, the theory makes more sense each day.

    They wanted to make Bush out to be a fool, and they did. They wanted to make Barky The Messiah, and they did that, too.

    Just my take…

  148. Michelle // December 11, 2009

    *****************
    Michelle,….. I think the reason they think that is didn’t he promise them he would pay their rent and make sure they had gas for their cars? These people are looking for a handout,… and for their vote,… HE LIED. He continues to lie. Amazing that he continues to get by with it. No one will confront him and tell him he is a lier. (EXCEPT FOR JOE WILSON) and Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck,….. I also heard Greta call him a lier tonight on her show. She was talking about how he promised to have open hearings on the health care issues….. she had over 5-6 videos of him promising transparency on all bills. ha ha what a lie.

  149. joyceaz-A major point for the pilots is they don’t need any distractions of any kind, which is why they rely on their crew. Sometimes things get dicey very fast, we had some very bad airplane crashes near O’Hare-pilots and crew need all their wits-at all times, something like Capt. Sullenberger when he had to ditch the plane in the Hudson. These decisions are split seconds and I’m sure they pray the entire time that they made the correct decision.

  150. SueK,….. OH YA,…. they did hate President Bush. They fought him every step of the way just like the fools (dems) in congress once they had the majority in 2006. They bent over back wards to tear him down. They sure didn’t want to win that fight in Iraq. NO THEY DIDN’T.
    It is so sad to Hate someone so much that they’d destroy OUR COUNTRY in the process. Makes me so D___M angry when I think of their ignorance.

  151. This is one of the crashes I remember-we were at work when all the lights went out, then we saw a lot of black smoke, so we thought one of the refineries that was near by blew up. Sirens that went on forever. All the stop lights out, everything out. About an hour this came on the news, no one at work could talk due to shock.
    Memorial Day also anniversary of plane crash
    May 25, 2009 9:18 AM | 10 Comments
    Memorial Day this year is also the 30th anniversary of the worst single-plane disaster in the history of U.S. commercial aviation — the crash near O’Hare International Airport of American Airlines Flight 191.
    May 25, 1979, was the Friday leading into Memorial Day, and Flight 191 took off that afternoon for Los Angeles International Airport. The DC-10 carried 258 passengers and a crew of 13.
    Authorities later determined that an engine began falling off on takeoff. The huge jetliner was in the air for only 45 seconds and reached an altitude of only 400 feet before it plunged to the ground near Elk Grove Village.
    All 271 people on the flight were killed, as well as two people on the ground.
    Karen Pride, a spokeswoman for the Chicago Department of Aviation said that on Sunday O’Hare’s chaplain dedicated morning services to the victims of the crash. She said no other memorials are scheduled.

  152. Sue K and Joyceaz,

    Please note my post said “it was recently revealed” that 10 days prior to invasion Tony Blair knew there were no WMD’s, as did Bush/Cheney.

    If WMD’s were there and then moved has no bearing on the constitutionality of tribunal versus being tried in court of law according to the sources I’ve mentioned.

  153. Call me a masochist but I called Pelosi’s and Frank’s offices in DC today and asked, in a very civil tone,…
    “Obama published twice that he was born British. How can this be considered a Natural Born Citizen?”

    Frank’s rep., a woman, SCREAMED at me “aw come on just get over it! nobody’s ever going to get any of this through!” then hung up, so I called her back, and she screamed again, “he was born in Hawaii or is that too difficult for you?” and then she phone slammed me again.

    Pelosi’s rep just said “thank you I have another call but I really have other people on the line and…” and then hung up on me.

    It was interesting, I think we should all pursue this with great vigor, and see if we can get one of them to drop dead from a coronary.

    In retrospect it’s kind of funny, they know they’re criminals and guilty as sheet. They hate that we know it.

  154. Michelle, I don’t know too much about Chicago,. Never been there. I know that the airports are busy,…. everywhere, especially ohare. These pilots have lots of responsibility on their shoulders. Have to make some quick decisions.
    Life or Death decisions.

  155. Hi Michelle and Linda from NY,

    Linda, thanks for the post “Obama Imports Terrorists to Midwest”. I heard about this listening to the radio this afternoon. The Chicago Tribune has a write-up about it:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-thomson-memo_skibadec12,0,309485.story

    Our sitting Gov and our esteemed Senator, Dic*less Durbin, are just thrilled about the possibility of this happening. THANKS guys, I live about 60 miles east of the place. The state needs the money, to hell with the people. Durbin flatly refused to have a referendum vote and let the people who pay him have a say. He felt he knew what was best, after all that is what he was elected for.

    Michelle, did you know there are 12 people from 3 parties running for Gov next year? Let me know if you want a list.

    This is what happens to a state that is run by the Democrats (with Richie Daley as Da Boss):

    American Thinker
    December 09, 2009
    Moody’s lowers Illinois bond rating
    Ethel C. Fenig

    In a shuddering preview of what’s in store for the U.S., Moody’s Investor Services lowered the state of Illinois’ bond ratings on Tuesday reports Karen Pierog of Reuters.

    Illinois’s bond ratings are now the second lowest of all 50 states, trailing only the # 1 holder of this dubious honor–California. In practical terms this means Illinois will have to pay bondholders a higher interest rate to compensate for their higher risk.

    Illinois, is the state where then State Senator Barack Obama (D) voted present as a state legislator, consistently voting for tax and spend policies. Then, he moved on to represent Illinois in Washington as Senator Obama where he continued to do the same before moving on to become president of the United States where he continues his pattern of tax and spend, consequences be damned.

    He brings forth policies of spending our way out of the recession caused, of course, by his predecessor. His presidential predecessor, of course, had to deal with aCongress that was controlled by the party of the now president of which the now president was a member. And the now president voted present or agreed with all the budget busting legislation.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/12/moodys_lowers_illinois_bond_ra.html

  156. joyceaz-I guess what I am trying to say is Airports/Jets/Pilots/Passengers/Personnel-safety is very important. Not a place for playing mind games-subtly attempting to intimidate fellow passengers. I know the airline industry does not want to lose passengers but people are not going to put up with anyone acting in an irresponsible way in the airport or on the plane.
    Airline industry is going to have to figure out some solution to this real fast.

  157. Michelle,…. And that is the reason we don’t have time for anyone to pull crap like that on any plane. It causes panic and fear. AND,….. all rightly so. I know that I would cause a ruckus if I was to be on a plane and some muslim garb wearing guys, acted that way. Just the way I am.

  158. Reese-As a former Chicagoan I can just hear the guys swearing on the radio, they would be so da*mn mad. I bet this is going over well. Obama just in a long line of corrupt politicians-along with Cook County’s happy corruption. What county are you in, I grew up in DuPage and I think they have their first nickel. They never spent any of the tax money they collected. What is weird too is what about all the tax revenue O’Hare generates? where does that go? Lottery money? Is illegal gambling still big there? Sports betting, I remember the frequent raids?

  159. tminu
    “Call me a masochist” No, concerned citizen with a question.
    Frank’s rep., a woman, SCREAMED at me “aw come on just get over it! nobody’s ever going to get any of this through
    Screaming is not going to change the question.

  160. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Don in California // December 11, 2009 at 2:58 am
    *************
    Thanks for the reply. Seems like there are always more questions than there are answers.

    I agree with you. Nothing about this whole thing makes any sense. Everything seems upside down and inside out.

  161. c.n.d.e. ville II

    If the U.N. is talking about abolishing Christianity, I say we hold “In God We Trust” patriotic rallies all around the country and do it ALL: signs with the 10 commandments, signs with verses from the BIBLE (gasp!), praying out loud . . . in Jesus’ Name, singing real Christmas CAROLS (even after Christmas), have speeches about the faith of our founders with lots of quotes, carry Bibles, wear “faith-based” shirts . . . what else??

    Time to get God back into our nation, before He’s banned!!!

    Patrick Henry
    American Revolutionary Leader

    ”It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.”

  162. c.n.d.e. ville II

    What The Founding Fathers Said

    Political Science professors at the University of Houston wondered if there was something unique about the government of the U.S. They gathered 15,000 quotes from the Founders and located where all of them came from. They then boiled that down to 3,154 quotes that had significant impact on the founding of America. It took them 10 years to finish the project, but they found that the three men most quoted by the Founding fathers were Blackstone, Montesquieu, and John Locke. They also found that the Bible was quoted: 4 times more often than Montesquieu, 12 times more often than Blackstone, and 16 times more often than Locke.

    Additionally, 34% of all quotes were from the Bible, and another 60% of the quotes were from men who were using the Bible to arrive at their conclusions. Added together, 94% of all the quotes of the Founders had their origin in the Bible, which shows the importance of God’s word in their lives and of this Nation’s founding.

    http://www.inplainsite.org/html/founding_fathers.html

  163. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Michelle // December 12, 2009 at 12:35 am
    Screaming is not going to change the question.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Screaming is not an answer, either. The “you’re right but we don’t want you to know it so we will scream, curse, ridicule, and discount you, call you names, attack you, disconnect you and make you go away” tactic is getting very old and worn. NOT working either . . . .

  164. c.n.d.e. ville II

    U.S. Supreme Court –

    Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States (1892)

    “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of
    the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian.”

    Source: February 29, 1892. Justice Josiah Brewer, Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 143 U.S. 457-458, 465-471, 36 L ed 226.
    **********************
    Jedediah Morse
    Patriot and “Father of American Geography”

    To the kindly influence of Christianity we owe that degree of civil freedom, and political and social happiness which mankind now enjoys. . . . Whenever the pillars of Christianity shall be overthrown, our present republican forms of government, and all blessings which flow from them, must fall with them.

    (Source: Jedediah Morse, Election Sermon given at Charleston, MA, on April 25, 1799.)

  165. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Linda from N.Y. —

    Sorry. I think I never did answer your questions.

    I really can’t figure out what the answers are. lol

  166. c.n.d.e. ville II

    SEALs’ support petition is up to 26,306 signatures!

  167. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Daniel Webster
    Early American Jurist and Senator

    [I]f we and our posterity reject religious instruction and authority, violate the rules of eternal justice, trifle with the injunctions of morality, and recklessly destroy the political constitution which holds us together, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us that shall bury all our glory in profound obscurity.
    ********************
    Noah Webster
    Statesman, lexicographer

    “In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be instructed…No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.”
    ********************
    Andrew Jackson
    7th President of the United States

    “That book, Sir, is the Rock upon which our republic rests.” (Referring to the Bible)

  168. c.n.d.e. ville II

    George Washington
    “Father of Our Country”

    Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of man and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought

    to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connexions with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice?

  169. Allahu Akhbar

    Article III, Section3: Treason against the United States shall consist only … in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort…

  170. c.n.d.e. ville II

    I like this part.

    “After the readings, there appeared to be no hard feelings. The two (Sarah Palin and William Shatner) left the stage arm-in-arm.”

  171. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Samuel Adams
    Signer of the Declaration of Independence

    [N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.

    (Source: William V. Wells, The Life and Public Service of Samuel Adams (Boston: Little, Brown, & Co., 1865), Vol. I, p. 22, quoting from a political essay by Samuel Adams published in The Public Advertiser, 1749.)

    “May every citizen in the army and in the country have a proper sense of the Deity upon his mind and an impression of the declaration recorded in the Bible, “Him that honoreth me I will honor, but he that despiseth me shall be lightly esteemed [1 Samuel 2:30].”
    “The Supreme Ruler of the Universe, having been pleased in the course of His providence to establish the independence of the United States of America…we ought to be led by religious feelings of gratitude and to walk before Him in all humility according to His most holy law…That with true repentance and contrition of heart we may unitedly implore the forgiveness of our sins through the merits of Jesus Christ and humbly supplicate our heavenly Father.” (in proclaiming a Day of Public Fasting, Humiliation, and Prayer, 1795)

    Peace . . . . Out!!

  172. joyceaz // December 11, 2009 at 11:01 pm
    Justme,….. No One will ever convince me that Saddam Hussain did NOT have WMDs. They were moved. Maybe they weren’t the newest type,….. but, I fully believe that they were there. You want to know why they weren’t found,… right?
    Well, Saddam had lots of friends. Some other country has them. Iran,…. Syria,… among a few.
    I know that President Bush wasn’t the most perfect president. (and I didn’t really care too much for cheney),…. BUT,… they sure in hell were better than what is leading this country right now. THAT is MY HONEST non bias OPINION!
    =====================
    YELLOW CAKE
    Secret U.S. mission hauls uranium from Iraq
    Last major stockpile from Saddam’s nuclear efforts arrives in Canada

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/

  173. Let us all send the picture of Ofraud taking off his shoes getting ready to pray in the mosque to John McCain for Christmas Greetings and write

    -Hey fool, what do you say now?-

    Or write whatever is IYO…

  174. cyber, yes call McCain’s staff
    the more we put that mirror up to their ugly treasonist faces the better

    besides, it dismantles their stature very quickly to see how they FREEEEEEEEEEK out when the public confronts them

    and do they ever freak out!!

    Remember when Barney Frank mocked that woman at a townhall who asked about the health care bill, he said he’d rather talk to a piece of furniture?

    Well, put on your best nasty-blogger Alinsky#4 hat and dive right in, cuz I tell you one thing I’ve learned…

    they cannot take their own medicine, they hate being exposed, especially if you LISTEN to what they say then turn and use their own words against them, they double-freak

    they need to get a taste of the outcry and animosity out here in reality land

  175. zachjonesishome

    Good Morning!

  176. joyceaz // December 11, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Justme,….. No One will ever convince me that Saddam Hussain did NOT have WMDs. They were moved. Maybe they weren’t the newest type,….. but, I fully believe that they were there. You want to know why they weren’t found,… right?

    ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

    joyceaz…..I agree and further more I am tired of getting these emails from these Liberals asking me to donate to their cause to have Bush and Cheney indicted…..WTH…..they kept us save for 8 freakin’ years…..not even one year in and we already have a terrorist attacking our soldiers…..what else is going to happen…..this Muslim BS wouldn’t be going on if Bush and Cheney were still in charge…..and I love how Cheney is calling out this FRAUD….I hope he continues to do it….I am also tired of the Truther crap……that is a true conspiracy theory in my books!!!

  177. SueK // December 11, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    joyceaz // December 11, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Hi Joyce,

    You’re 100% right about the WMDs. I’ve mentioned this before, but it bears repeating.

    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

    Sue and Joyce….both of you are right on target….and must of the propaganda came from our own biased MSM…..even the troops said many times over that the media lied about much of the Iraq war. Also…..I don’t know why people keep saying Bush and Cheney went to war on their own…..it was voted in Congress and the Senate…..they didn’t just decide to go to war for the heck of it….also at the time Bush and Cheney were being advised by the NO GOOD traitor Colin Powell….if you want to place blame he is the one who convinced our government to forge ahead because he firmly believed that Sadam Hussein needed to be dealt with!!

  178. #

    SueK // December 12, 2009 at 12:06 am

    joyceaz // December 11, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    Yup, Joyce, a ton of time to move/bury the weapons.

    People have asked me over the years why these WMD ‘discoveries’ weren’t reported in the media. While I don’t know for sure (even though we know how the MSM *always* reports the truth) I have a simple theory:

    The press hated Bush as much as they love Barky. By not reporting this, going into Iraq would be construed as a senseless war, and Bush ridiculed that much more; of course, this did happen.

    Now that we know the capabilities of the MSM to knowingly report false info and/or sit on the truth, the theory makes more sense each day.

    They wanted to make Bush out to be a fool, and they did. They wanted to make Barky The Messiah, and they did that, too.

    Just my take…
    *******************************************
    Sue….you are so-o-o-o right about this….the media made Bush and Cheney out to be the Bad Guys when they are really Patriots….and now we can see that are making the FRAUD out to be this good family man guy……he is worse than Tiger Woods…..pretending to be a family man….wonder if his daughters know about Larry Sinclair and that whole episode???

    Yes the media certainly can fool those who want to be fooled!!!

  179. Bush and Cheney are patriots? Oh my.

    How soon one forgets. We have lost most of our personal freedoms under the watch of these two, as have many innocent people in other countries.

    I would encourage you to Google some of the Executive Orders – that are still in place for “O” – that gave Bush dictatorial powers and the ability to side step Congress, along with The Patriot Act 1 and 2 – which Congress still hasn’t been allowed to read in it’s entirety, and The John Warner Defense Act (PDD51) which moved us closed to Martial Law. You may also want to have a look at some of the international acts/treaties/ agreements he signed, as well. Does the North American Trade Agreement ring a bell? It was signed without approval of Congress. That agreement was the first step toward creating a North American Union necessary in moving us forward to world government.

    The words “I see a New World Order coming into view…” (NWO) came straight out of his father’s mouth. I guess he did…cause it’s here now, baby! We’re seeing it.

  180. zachjonesishome

    I’ll be back later. Time to walk the dog. 20 degrees here. Zach

  181. Sen. Schumer rips Obama admin’s cut to New York City’s anti-terror funds

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2406041/posts

    Stupid Schumer…what did you expect?

  182. LINK TO: United Airlines passengers removed from flight at Denver airport. (United Flight 227)

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2406039/posts

    Emboldened by PC, I guess!

  183. To top it all off, the members of the press corps are sad that the Obamas have done away with the traditional receiving line at many of the WH parties, so reporters will not be able to greet and pose with the President. Politico reports:

    …for the White House to do away with the formal line is no small matter to those who work this beat every day: many guests feel it’s the main reason to attend, no matter who’s in office.

    “It’s always been a big deal,” said [Dee Dee] Myers, who served as press secretary to former President Bill Clinton. “It’s exhausting [for the president] but it’s the one time when reporters feel like they’re treated like human beings and not just some guy behind the rope line. It’s the one time they can actually say hello.”

    “Under the Bush administration, invites went out before Thanksgiving, reporters said. “I’m wondering if they just don’t have their act together on the social stuff,” one print reporter said…

    “This year’s process seems so screwed up. It’s one big horrible mess,” said one veteran White House reporter. “The White House knows who covers the beat and they also know who should be attending. A lot of people have their feelings hurt.”
    *****

    AHHH, the press must have that morning-after, used feeling………….
    GOOD, HE SCREWED YOU TOO??????

  184. So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket,

    **********
    This is pure bull**it from his “oh, pity me, I came from nothing, and look at me now” book.

    He had a stepfather (politically connected), a mother working for frauds (Ford Foundation)stealing money from the poor, and a bank-executive grandmother for Christ’s sake!!!!

  185. Birth Certificate Submitted by Obama’s Grandmother

    Western Journalism ^ | 12/12/2009 | borderraven

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2405994/posts

  186. A time for justice

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2405991/posts

    “Former border patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean are seeking a new trial, in which all the evidence will finally be heard.”

  187. Exclusive: IRS hires “hundreds” for new wealth unit

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2405979/posts

  188. In-credit-able!

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2405978/posts

    “Even if the Federal Reserve gets around to strengthening the dollar–which would do wonders to get the economy really moving again–we still face a mammoth and growing problem: the government’s increasing domination and distortion of the capital markets.”

  189. Counter protest 9/11 Inside Job Conspiracy theorists (aka anti-war rally)

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2405972/posts

  190. AccuWeather on Climate Change:It’s Ice not Fire You’re Going to Be Worried about – VIDEO

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2405971/posts

  191. CAIR Attorney Demands Ban and Seizure of all Christmas Cards sent to Rifqa Bary

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2405966/posts

  192. JJ // December 11, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    JustMe // December 11, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Cheney should be in prison. He’s the real terrorist.
    *******
    You know about Halliburton, and his other company, the drugs, smuggling arms, etc., his involvemant in 9/11???

    ******

    Yes, I do know. There’s been so much written about all of this by multiple very credible people, that it’s hard to imagine anyone doesn’t know. But, I guess some don’t, or don’t want to know.

    It’s a well known fact the Bush family fortune was due in large part from their business partnerships with the bin Laden family. Then, of course, there’s the Nazi ties to Baby Bush’s grand daddy. These people are no saints or patriots.

  193. To the People of the Third District (TN)

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2405948/posts

  194. De Ville II …you are on a roll. I was just discussing the Christian Nation principle with folks lately and this info really hit the spot.One young man born and raised on SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE adores the U of Houston school his alma mater.
    Another lady got to arguing against CHRISTIAN NATION claiming Founders were paganists or some such bull. She was into hippie occultist stuff. The merchant from south America really put up a good fight!
    I use ROPE LIGHTING for X-mas..I wrote in cursive:
    CHRIST IS KING ..it is big and bright.
    I highly recommend rope lighting.Get those plastic ties to complete your oewn personalized and assertive Christian message.
    It was Savage who loudly declared Christian Nation on the air one day. What a hoot!

  195. Harry Reid’s Healthcare Compromise, One Foot on the Banana Peel The Other in the Grave

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2405946/posts

  196. Linda NY

    was it you that posted an article about “O” preparing for Civil War? Thanks.

  197. JustMe, et al

    Submitted on 2009/12/12 at 12:14am

    The issue of the Iraq war, WMD, has been spun in a superb Orwellian manner by the MSM.
    Bush provided at least 4 reasons for the invasions.
    Clinton & Madeline Albright made numerous speeches on the WMD & the intent of the US
    to follow through.
    The American public has been brain washed to believe there were absolutely no WMD.

  198. JustMe – Prescott Bush had close ties to Averill Harriman and Brown Brothers. The Democrats and Republicans are both deep into the NWO. It is the The Elites against the common folkes. It is “They know what is best for us” syndrome. Their answer might be “The Golden Rule” – THEY THAT HAVE THE GOLD RULE. A financial collapse will bring on a war and once again the economy for the winners will flourish. Such is life.

  199. Saturday, December 12, 2009 Email to a Friend ShareThis.Advertisement
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 25% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -16. That’s the lowest Approval Index rating yet recorded for this President (see trends).

  200. There was once a wonderful movie with Rock Hudson and Doris Day and in one of the scenes their lawyers along with Doris and Rock are all sitting together in the room. As the two bicker on how they want to divide up their assets, the two lawyers are talking about getting together and playing golf at ones golf course. THAT NAILED ALL POLITICIANS AND LAWYERS IN ONE GREAT SWIPE. Don’t forget -most Congressmen are lawyers. As Shakespear once said -“Now’s the time to kill all the lawyers”

  201. Jonah………………………………………

    I have a rudimentary knowledge of nuclear physics, and with respect to any possibility that Saddam Hussein possessed nuclear weapons is still pretty much hearsay. I say this because there is a whole lot of development that MUST take place before an actual nuclear device can be manufactured. This is also the case where Iran is concerned. I personally think that Saddam may have possessed the CAPABILITY to manufacture U235 but there is a great deal of conjecture if he actually refined any or not. I believe that his equipment was hastily removed and sent to Iran, and it is now part of their development program.Even an acclerated program takes a lot of time. Granted there is techniques,and equipment existing today that has radically shortened the time required from beginning to bomb,there is still a very dear amount of time required to extract enough U 235 from U308. While I agree Iran has already had a great deal of time to do this they have also had a number of stumbles which has a way of compounding the development time exponentially. Further there is nuclear power. and there is THERMO NUCLEAR FISSION. OR (HYDROGEN BOMB). I personally believe that the Iranian leaders are totally unaware of the fact that the US also has operational THERMO nuclear devices in our arsenal. These make atomic devices look like ladyfinger firecrackers. Hydrogen weapons will destroy huge areas, and totally incinerate the residue. So when Ahmadinajad tries to make the world quake in their boots he should be asking his alleged developers what thermo nuclear devices can do. In addition since we have them in our arsenal there is certainly an appropriate doctrine for the use of the H bomb. I personally think such a lunatic will ultimately lead his country into some sort of confrontation with the US, at which point there would indeed be justification to use thermo nuclear weapons in retaliation, after which the country of Iran would no longer exist as such. It would have its entire surface wiped clean of human, animal,vegatative life, and structural adornments. Iran would become a radioactive area for at least 100 years,and wherein no human,or animal life would be able to survive.
    Should MISS AHMADINAJAD choose to confront the US he will face possible total anihilation of IRAN. It would take about 5 H bombs having a yeild of about 30 megatons each. However for us to be justified in using the supreme weapon he would have to first attack either the US directly, or ISRAEL. There is also another variable involved, which is whether Soetoro (if he is still President) will possess the intestinal fortitude to use such weapons. We will have to wait, and see on that one.
    I have personally witnessed first hand the level of destruction that is generated by a 15 MEGATON H bomb, from a distance of 40 miles. It is horrendous, and defies description. This occurred in March of 1954, in the Marshall Island test area at Bikini and Enawetok. The US is STILL paying for that MISTAKE.

  202. CW,

    I don’t “follow” the MSM.

    What I posted has somehow been spun into something different from the original intent.

    I was merely responding to another post with what other sources have indicated as the “distinction” that makes the trial in NYC constitutional.

    Regardless of the number of reasons given for invasion, I stand by my opinion that neither Bush nor Cheney are patriots. None of what we’re facing as a nation happened overnight. They laid the groundwork as did prior administrations. It’s been well documented.

  203. ms. helga // December 12, 2009 at 9:54 am

    I’m familiar with the info you posted. It’s out there for anyone interested.

    I’m past the left/right paradigm. It’s one snake with 2 heads. And, it’s never been more evident. Perfect example is this healthcare reform bill. Both parties are complicit in federalizing healthcare.

  204. TO:

    JustMe // December 11, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Cheney should be in prison. He’s the real terrorist.
    ================

    Looks like the Erosionist Propaganda and Brainwashing has worked on some of our own here and elsewhere.

    The Communist Wing of the CIA is behind what they try and blame on Bush/Cheney, they are only the fall guys, the real Domestic Terrorists are the infiltrators and facilitators from the Communist Wing of the CIA, et al….driven by the World Rich Groups like tri-lateral, bilderberg, etc. Don’t fall for the Propaganda BS otherwise you are aiding the enemy…..

  205. With regard to the CRIMINAL, ERIC HOLDER it is apparent that he has decided to learn the hard way, about the prosecution of war criminals in US Federal Courts, and LEARN he will. He has absolutely NO conception of how war changes the status of the perpetrators. Granted the 9-11 attacks were on US soil. but that is where it all ends. It was an act of WAR, not a crime. These FOREIGN PERPETRATORS are indeed members of a hostile entity which does not HAVE to be a country per se.I have a great deal of fear that all of these ANIMALS will walk, and ultimately SPIT on ERIC HOLDER for his IGNORANCE. These animals have the most suitable CAGE at present. This is the Guatanamo CAGE. This is also where the MILITARY tribunals should occur, and TO HELL WITH what the enemy, along with the rest of the world thinks. The morons in DC think they are God. Many of them didn’t even exist during, or immediately after WW2, yet they try to talk about what occurred at Neurumburg. They were NOT there so the REALITY is they don’t know their asses from a hole in the ground. Depending on records is baloney. You either KNOW, or you DON’T KNOW. Only someone who was present at the Neurumburg trials knows exactly how the tribunals were conducted
    Holder would have at BEST been only a small child at the end of WW2. My guess is that he wasn’t yet on Earth.

  206. Chicagoans are no longer silent, soon Obamas private life that he has been attempting to hide is going to be blasted by “cat-fights” just like Tiger Woods.
    December 12, 2009
    Question of the Day: When will Democrats go too far with the crazy, socialist things they are doing?
    Here’s a question for you, based on simple logic and an appreciation of history in this country: When will Democrats go too far with the crazy socialist things they are doing, and what will that last straw be
    We sense that frustration and anger building against Democrats now. The MSM is working harder than ever before to downplay it, and to vainly try to convince the public it’s really happy with the Golden Age of Hope and Age, all evidence to the contrary.
    Sexual and personal scandals never impact Democrats as much as they do Republicans. The reason the Foley and Craig scandals stung was because those two clowns were anti-gay hypocrites caught doing Rahm Emanuel impersonations. If Emanuel himself, for instance, was outed in the next year, it wouldn’t phase voters in the least. We honestly believe it wouldn’t matter if Dr. Utopia himself was outed, unless someone came up with videotape of him doing the things everyone in Chicago has long talked about him doing when he was a state senator here. For Democrats, sex scandals actually seem to HELP incumbents, in many cases.

  207. Peter,

    I’m well aware of the groups you mention, and I agree with you in that these groups are pulling the strings of these puppets. I’ve posted this numerous times here. As far as I can tell they’re (Bush/Cheney) members of the same club.

    Tell me what either one of these two did to stop the machine? I’d really like to know.

  208. JUST ME……………………………………….

    If you can put absolute proof to your charges then by all means you should do so, history needs accuracy. Otherwise if this is only hearsay then it is probably best to be dropped. Again I hope that you can successfully demonstrate these charges in court. Again I believe that you need to pursue your beliefs to fruition.

  209. Just Me–good comments last night. thanks.

  210. In 1905 Justice Brewer wrote a book called The United States: A Christian Nation. Justice Brewer wrote: “We classify nations in various ways. As, for instance, by their form of government…Also by race…And by religion. One is a Mohammedan nation, others are heathen, and still others are Christian nations. This republic is classified among the Christian nations of the world. It was so formally declared by the Supreme Court of the United States…we constantly speak of this republic as a Christian nation-in fact, as the leading Christian nation of the world.”

    On February 29, 1892 in the case of the Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 143 U.S. 469: Supreme Court Justice David J. Brewer rendered the opinion that the United States was founded on Christianity and its citizens were a religious people based on overwhelming evidence cited in early historical documents, declarations, charters and constitutions, and the prevailing view of American life, as expressed by its laws, its business, its customs, and its society. Justice Brewer’s opinion explained the Founding Father’s original intent for the relationship between religion and government, and the U.S. Supreme Court declared the “United States was a Christian Nation.”

    That case has NEVER been overturned but it has been replaced with the judicial philosophy of U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes who on May 3, 1907 declared, “We are under a Constitution, but the Constitution is what the judges say it is.”

  211. from Linda’s link above about grandmother & BC…

    possible scenarios if you read the lengthy discussion on this…. this paragraph
    has the “meat & potatoes” on this issue…

    Most people would not consider a mailed-in form by one of his parents (who could have been out of the country or whose signature could have been forged by a grandparent) or a sworn statement by one of his grandparents or by his mother or even a sworn statement by himself many years later to be sufficient evidence (when set next to the statements by his maternal grandmother and the Kenyan ambassador that he was born in another country). Unless the American people are shown the original birth certificate, all of these are possibilities. And if Obama refuses to allow the state of Hawaii to release the original birth certificate, it begins to look like he was not born in a Hawaii hospital or at home with the assistance of a doctor or midwife. A reasonable person would acknowledge that there are serious reasons to doubt that Barack Obama was born in the United States. This is especially true because, if Obama was born in a foreign country, his family had a compelling reason to lie about it.
    from WesternJournalism

    ***I liked this paragraph, could have very well been what actually happened.
    We need to keep up the pressure on this issue–it is at the heart of it all!!!!!!!!!

  212. Given the situation which the US is presently in there is ample reason to believe that our country as we knew it for over 200 years is being methodically re oriented to a socialist form of government. It isn’t really hard to see what is happening,or for that matter HOW it is happening. We are faced with a MASTER criminal having taken over our helm, and to date there seems to be nobody who possesses the relative strength either physically,or mentally to devise a way to retake the helm. He has steering us into very dangerous waters, and I believe that very soon the wheelsman is going to make a mistake which will end in both him, and all of us suffering the resulting consequences. Hopefully somebody very soon will devise a positive way of removing the inexperienced, and unqualified wheelsman.

  213. http://oilforimmigration.org/
    By: David A. Patten
    Climategate may be just the tip of the global-warming iceberg according to the Washington, D.C.-based Competitive Enterprise Institute, which says the next weather-science scandal may erupt right here in the United States.
    On late Thursday, Goddard’s Hess responded to a Newsmax inquiry with the following e-mail statement: “In response to your questions, we are working on Mr. Horner’s three FOIA requests. We should have been more responsive, and regret that it has taken as long as it has, but we will release the information collected in response to the FOIA requests as soon as possible.”
    Ebell tells Newsmax he has his own theory about what’s behind the foot-dragging. He suspects GISS is trying to avoid a major embarrassment.
    Despite those findings, the Obama administration continues to insist there is a scientific consensus that dangerous, human-caused global warming is occurring.
    In his speech, Obama contended that global warming represents a threat to national and international security.
    “For this reason,” the president said, “it is not merely scientists and activists who call for swift and forceful action — it is military leaders in my country and others who understand that our common security hangs in the balance.”

  214. JJ // December 12, 2009 at 8:40 am

    So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket,

    **********
    This is pure bull**it from his “oh, pity me, I came from nothing, and look at me now” book.

    He had a stepfather (politically connected), a mother working for frauds (Ford Foundation)stealing money from the poor, and a bank-executive grandmother for Christ’s sake!
    +++++++++++++++

    JJ,
    Thank you for reminding us of the truth.
    Imo, he was elected on “pity me” syndrome!

  215. Maddie -I believe someone months ago checked every hospital in Hawaii checking to see if Obama, his mother or grandmother were ever there. They found no records.

  216. JustMe,

    Absolutely agree with your assessment of GB and DC; even if the only basis for this conclusion was the Patriot Act. Just because some citizens willingly relinquish their rights to privacy does not convert those who would (conspire with business to) usurp those rights in the first place, into patriots.

  217. In order to make this story fair and complete, ACORN participation, tactics of Community Organizers, continued participation of ACORN, SEIU and any known frauds touching one penny of the governments money. Obama and Michelle are not running the most frugal White House anyone ever saw.
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iYtNL5lW4aWyBZwwcea4m0jzJCgAD9CHQMKG0
    Obama blasts banks for opposing financial overhaul
    By DARLENE SUPERVILLE (AP) – 2 hours ago
    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama singled out financial institutions for causing much of the economic tailspin and criticized their opposition to tighter federal oversight of their industry.
    While applauding House passage Friday of overhaul legislation and urging quick Senate action, Obama expressed frustration with banks that were helped by a taxpayer bailout and now are “fighting tooth and nail with their lobbyists” against new government controls.
    In his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday, Obama said the economy is only now beginning to recover from the “irresponsibility” of Wall Street institutions that “gambled on risky loans and complex financial products” in pursuit of short-term profits and big bonuses with little regard for long-term consequences.
    “It was, as some have put it, risk management without the management,” he said.
    The president also told CBS’ “60 Minutes” that “the people on Wall Street still don’t get it. … They’re still puzzled why it is that people are mad at the banks. Well, let’s see. You guys are drawing down $10, $20 million bonuses after America went through the worst economic year … in decades and you guys caused the problem,” Obama said in an excerpt released in advance of Sunday night’s broadcast of his interview.

  218. Philo Publious………………………………

    I have an argument regarding the alleged supremacy of the courts over the Constitution. If the courts are so damned superior why haven’t they been able to render the constitution as invalid? They have indeed tried many times. But there is no open areas for skirting the meaning of the Constitution either verbally, or by virtue of interpretation. The courts , and many judges might think that they can twist the wording of the Constitution to mean anything they want it to mean. These people who think this are MORONS.and they very often reflect their level of intelligence via the nitwit interpretations that they have rendered in the past. The composition of our Constitution was well thought through, before it was ever put to pen and ink. The founders were all gifted scholars in their own ways. They picked ,and chose appropriate words so as to expand the meaning well enough to cover every possible interpretation. The Constitution is an entity which in my own personal view contains the most accurate language that has ever been put to pen and ink, and for that reason cannot meaningfully be circumscribed.

  219. Listen to that Ovation she is the Heartbeat of AMERICA, at least the America that is Patriotic, God Loving & Traditionalist. The Erosionist Lieberals hate her & pee themselves in fear. Sarah the Lieberals’ Terror.

    America is Going Rogue for an American Stateswoman. It’s great since we don’t have any more statesmen.

    It’ll take 2 Christian conservative Ladies to Bring this Country back to it’s great Foundings.
    America has a Pal in Palin.
    Palin/Bachmann 2012
    Common Sense Conservatism

  220. TO:

    JustMe // December 12, 2009 at 11:04 am

    Peter,

    I’m well aware of the groups you mention, and I agree with you in that these groups are pulling the strings of these puppets. I’ve posted this numerous times here. As far as I can tell they’re (Bush/Cheney) members of the same club.

    Tell me what either one of these two did to stop the machine? I’d really like to know.

    ================

    The only thing that can’t stop the Ever More Powerful infiltrated machine is Americans Rising Up and exsposing and not falling for their propaganda and voting in Constitutionalists or Military Takeover and new elections to bring in a Constitutional Gov’t that serves The Citizens as intended by the Founders who were guided by God. The Godless Erosionists are removing God and We the People in a constant incrementalism the last thing we need to do is Promote Their Propaganda.

    When the Eorsionists bad mouth, Rush, Cheney, Palin, etc NEVER EVER JOIN THEM in that badmouth otherwise you are doing their bidding…even if it is partially true. Instead lets Ridicule Them: Mirror and Deflect like Who si the Leader of the Leader of the Democrat Party? Is it Barney Frank? Keith Olberman? Howard Dean? Who si tehir Leader? They are crashing and burning and there is no Leadership? If they keep Destroyign America they will be extinct and Never Win in Election again.

  221. Maybe a two chick ticket could A)get into power
    then B) crank up the eligibility issue for a defacto ruling to reverse illegitimate policies…

  222. PRWH………………………………..

    Sarah is indeed an unusual person to say the least. I read her book Going Rogue. I believe this book was either meant to be an autobioagraphy, or she inadvertently simply can not write in any other way. I am really not sure on that question. However it was well written, and really provided a kaleidascope view of her intrinsic nature. While it doesn’t really specify any of her future anticipated pursuits, it does in fact spell out how she feels about politics in general. I personally expect her to surprise all of us by doing just the opposite of what we THINK she will do. I believe that she enjoys a spontaneous sort of life style, and in that view she is likely to do about anything.

  223. PRWH……………………………………..

    Do you think I ridicule the horses asses enough, or should I add the words MORONS, jackasses, deviates, and OBOT ROBOTS to all of my future comments. I wish my computer was capable of storing all of these nice little adjectives, then I would only have to press the appropriate key, and the complete word would pop up. I wouldn’t have to spell it out with each usage. I do like your coin (errosionists) also. I shall use it whenever I am mildly angered by something they do in DC. If I am really upset, I will use the most acidn words that I can use in the CW blog, of course at the same time being mindful of inferred belittling language, A jackass is the Democratic LOGO animal,so I presume that this word must be exempt from being looked upon as BELITTLING. The word Deviate is a person who changes direction or otherwise does something which is contrary to the norm. So I presume that as long as the subject matter is clean then the word can be used without causing any legal repercussions.

  224. Haven’t been caught up for days now as life has been crazy busy. But wanted to pop in and thank absolutely everyone for their advice on my disc issues.

    Finally saw the back doc and saw the pics. Two very herniated discs. The worst the doc had seen. Don’t have a clue HOW, but it is what it is.

    Thanks to all of you, I’m 80 to 90 percent pain free without drugs. I must say the doc was impressed! If I weren ‘t, I’d be in surgery right now. So I at least get to try the injection first, and surgery will only happen if the pain returns.

    Keith, I think it was you who gave me the “clip the feet on the edge of the bed” excercise. I did it and wow…i told the doc about it and he said, yes, that would be a good excercise for this…he didn’t even mention it…I did!

    So thank you all. I’m afraid I might have some nerve damage…but I’m doing better and must move forward with good attitude. : ) If it comes to surgery, he said there’s no risk of paralization for this particular surgery…so much to be thankful for this season!

    To all my jewish friends here…Happy Hanakka(sp?) May God bless you richly.

  225. Obama always has a hissy fit re: his past records, yet he had no compunction in having sealed court documents unsealed. Jack Ryan had to be eliminated by any means necessary. This is one of the reasons I think Obama is a total hypocrite. Since they were sealed records I wonder how Obama found out about them. ????
    Can turn about be fair play?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_Ryan
    When Jack Ryan’s campaign for an open United States Senate seat in Illinois began in 2003, the Chicago Tribune newspaper and WLS-TV, the local ABC affiliate, sought to have his records released. Both Jeri and Jack agreed to make their divorce records public, but not the custody records, claiming that their release could be harmful to their son.
    On June 22, 2004, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider agreed to release the custody files. The decision generated much controversy because it went against both parents’ direct request and because it generally reversed the early decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. It was revealed that six years previously,
    Although Jeri Ryan refused to comment on the matter during the campaign, the document disclosure led Jack Ryan to withdraw his candidacy, clearing the way for Barack Obama to win the seat

  226. OT: At Hobby Lobby I was greeted this morning with “Merry Christmas” from the clerk,
    Christmas music playing, and found a little
    red bowtie for a 5-yr. old for the “Christmas
    Program” (yes, they are singing Christmas songs, too.) Does it get any better than that?
    Happy here.

  227. ticktock,
    I remember the conversation about your
    back issues. So glad to hear Keith’s exercise
    has helped you—that is terrific!!! Sounds like
    you knew more on that tip than the doc.
    Just so it works, that’s what counts.
    Good luck with your back, and be careful, too.
    Merry Christmas if you are Christian and
    Happy H. if you are not (I can’t spell it either:)

  228. Michelle // December 12, 2009 at 11:40 am

    Maddie -I believe someone months ago checked every hospital in Hawaii checking to see if Obama, his mother or grandmother were ever there. They found no records.
    +++++++++++++
    I remember that. This article has to do with
    the grandmother signing/stating/mailing with
    maybe a forged signature sending or presenting
    BC to HI.

  229. Maddie……………………………………..

    How does one qualify to be the “birth certificate ” szar?

  230. One of the many reasons for our mess.

    When the final federal retirement check is sent out to Senator Robert Byrd several years from now and it crashes the whole financial structure of our monetary system we will all look at each other and ask “what happened?”
    Byrd has been a Senator since January 3, 1959, and is the longest-serving Senator as well as the longest-serving member in congressional history. My question is this – if he has been in congress longer than any US politician in history, why do we have such catastrophic mess in our whole history. The simple answer is this. He has been stealing from the Federal government to take home to his West Va. constituency. ALL POLITICIANS ARE CROOKS EXCEPT OURS!!! THE PERFECT CRIME

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd

  231. JBJD………….Ref Com. Dec 12 11:41 AM

    Do you believe that the same reasoning should also apply to Soetoro? Or is he exempt?

  232. Maddie, You’re such sweetheart, thank you. Yes, I’m Christian, not a very religious one, but definitely Christian. : )

    That is neat what you experienced at Hobby lobby. I also have some encouragement of a positive nature along those lines. I’m doing seasonal phone work at Harry and David’s. I live where the headquarters are and yes, we grow the best pears in the world, bar none. : ) During training, they told us that if someone wants Merry Christmas on their greeting, that Xmas is neve never ever used…even if requested. I do realize that x is actually a christian religious symbol, but most don’t know that. We are free to give Merry Christmas greetings on the phone, and it’s not discouraged in any way shape or form. So there is still good stuff going on out there.

    So there’s a little plug for Harry and Davids, great place to do easy Christmas shopping y’all and a fantastic product! : )

  233. oldsalt77-Qualifications for Birth certificate Czar: Talented liar, evader, creative with fiction, double speak ability, ability to change/denigrate the subject/question, ability to feign deafness,
    no known moral code of ethics. If able to do on a dime, so much the better.

  234. OldSalt77,

    New Opening in Obama Administration:
    BIRTH CERTIFICATE CZAR

    Applicant must be …

    1. Willing to seek the truth and uphold the Constitution.

    2. Willing to infiltrate the present “czar
    administration” just until the assignment/truth
    has been discovered.

    3. Willing to be called a Patriot.

    4. Willing to turn into a “Navy Seal” if needed
    instantly.

    More qualifications to follow.

    Nominations may also be made here: e-mail
    Maddie.

  235. oldsalt77 // December 12, 2009 at 10:13 am
    In regard to the article about sending Iraq’s huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium to Canada at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/

    The BIG question is why would Saddam Hussein have 550 metric tons of “yellowcake” – the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment?

    Is it possible that this huge stockpile could be merely the remainder of an even greater supply of yellow cake and maybe Iraq had already manufactured some WMDs ?

    BTW My brother served in the Navy aboard a ship that was within miles of nuclear testing. Have a photo that he took of a mushroom cloud if you’d like me to email it to you.

    Jonah

  236. TICKTOCK…………………………………..
    I don’t mean to be contradictory, but with herniated discs, they eventually will NEED surgery. While I agree if what you are doing works, by all means continue until it NO LONGER works. Dependent upon where the discs are herniated whether they are in your CERVICAL spine or your THORIAC spine. There is a very real possibility that you could be looking at ANTERIOR FUSION surgery, particularly where two adjacent discs are herniated. My wife and I were struck in the rear while we were stopped at a traffic light. the person who hit us was travelling at about 50 MPH. At that time our van had no headrests at the top of the seat. She sufferred SEVERE whiplash injuries and two herniated discs as a result, at C-4 and C-5. This accident occurred in 1999, and she has exhausted nearly all the options, and pain killers. She too is facing a strong probability of ANTERIOR FUSION surgery. Sadly NONE of the Neurological Surgeons will venture a guess if it will end her constant pain. I was very fortunate in that the back of my seat fractured and allowed the kinetic energy to be passed off by the rearward collaps of my seat. AQlthough when we struck the vehicle in front of us I was then propelled forward and ended up with my knees crammed yup under the dashboard. I had a horrible headache for about 5 hours after the accident. I can’t describe the impact as anything other than what you would expect from a giant sledge hammer. Our vehicle had a full frame under it, and the initial impact tore the engine loose from it’s respective mounts, and fractured the bell housing which mounts the transmission to the engine. The vehicle was totalled.
    She is still using EPIDURAL injections periodically. These are really nothing more than a pain medication with cortisone. They are slowly having a lesser effect. If the pain gets too hairy I guess we will be forced to do the surgery. I really wish you the best in this because I know what it has done to my wife over the last 10 years.

  237. WWE Wrestlemania in Washington, DC needed ASAP.

    I wrote yesterday that RepubliCANS need to start throwing chairs and flipping desks on the Floor of Congress it is the only way they will be heard and taken serious and We The PEOPLE will back them up and stand with them.

    Today on RedState I get their update e-mail that states the following snipped from the e-mail (if you are not signed up with them you need to sign up they support us and need our full support visit RedState.com):

    “…If the Republicans want the news media to cover what they are doing to educate the American people even further about the atrociousness of this bill, they have to create drama on the floor of the Senate. And the only way to do that is through an all-out fight with no holds barred. They need to look like Braveheart, fighting to the end to save freedom. Because, in fact, it is our very freedom and liberty that is at stake.

    The most powerful words in the Senate are “I object.” Senate Republicans should have been shouting those two words on the Senate floor early and often from the moment this bill was considered, instead of the complete silence we have heard – other than to constantly agree to conduct business through unanimous consent. Here are just a few ways those words can (and should) be used in a very effective way: …”

    End of Quote.

    We need Vince McMahon and WWE on the floor of CONgress…send in the Undertaker or someone Please……they are killing this country.
    DO A NUTTY please ….

  238. We only need One Czar:

    Eligibility Czar and We The People duly Nominate Dr. Orly Taitz.

  239. Oldsalt, I’m so sorry to hear of that horrible ordeal. Wow. Thank you so much for your input. These are right next to each other, but in my lower back. It affects my legs. The injection is nothing more than anti-inflamitory…it’s not a pain killer…so if it doesn’t work, then I’m off to surgery, which he assured me had no risk of paralization. And yes,if it doesn’t get better, then I could be facing permanent nerve damage in my leg and loss of function. So you can be sure, I’m gonna be keeping a close watch on this!

    Thanks Oldsalt, and best wishes to you and your dear wife. 🙂

  240. Jonah…………………………

    I too served in the Navy, and was also present at the 1954 H bomb test series. This was called Operation Castle, and incorporated task group 7.3 I commented earlier at length regarding this. I watched the final seconds of the detonation from a point about 40 miles distant, which is where ALL surface vessels were to be at prior to the detonation. AS it turned out the ship that I was assigned to, and a ww2 escort carrier along with several smaller vessels heavily plastered with radioactive fallout Cesium 137, and a host of other contaminants. The carrier CVE 115 was so heavily contaminated that the crew was ultimately removed, and she was towed back to Bremerton Washington where it underwent heavy decontamination service. I heard recently that it was’nt sold for scrap as we all initially thought.; rather it was finally put back into service and was deployed several times to Viet Nam, as a HELICOPTER carrier..
    As I stated earlier the level odf destruction that this device done is indescribable. One reason for the contamination was the fact that the test bomb was theorwetically only supposed to yeild about 7 megaton. Nobody was aware that it contained fuel that had undergone an advanced refinement procedure which upon detonation generated a doubling of the yeild and therefore the ships were not in proper positions to avoid fallout. I personally like to joke about this ;I sometimes tell my wife if she wants to see if I am still radioactive all she needs to do is turn out the lights. If I glow in the darkness I am still radioactive,LOL. By the way if you want some real firsthand data go to your search engine and type in Operation Castle, and follow it with Task Group 7.3 then read the hits that you get, Turther there is a lot of photography at those websites. Not exactly a fond memory!

  241. ustMe // December 12, 2009 at 7:51 am

    Bush and Cheney are patriots? Oh my.

    How soon one forgets. We have lost most of our personal freedoms under the watch of these two, as have many innocent people in other countries.

    I would encourage you to Google some of the Executive Orders – that are still in place for “O” – that gave Bush dictatorial powers and the ability to side step Congress, along with The Patriot Act 1 and 2 – which Congress still hasn’t been allowed to read in it’s entirety, and The John Warner Defense Act (PDD51) which moved us closed to Martial Law. You may also want to have a look at some of the international acts/treaties/ agreements he signed, as well. Does the North American Trade Agreement ring a bell? It was signed without approval of Congress. That agreement was the first step toward creating a North American Union necessary in moving us forward to world government.

    The words “I see a New World Order coming into view…” (NWO) came straight out of his father’s mouth. I guess he did…cause it’s here now, baby! We’re seeing it.
    *******************************************

    This all has been happening long before Bush and Cheney!!

  242. Harry Reid Inserts Lifetime Limits (Death Sentence?) in Health Care Bill

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/12/12
    /harry-reid-inserts-lifetime-limits-in-health-care-bill/

  243. Saddest White House Doggie Christmas Picture Ever May Expose Secret behind Obama’s Wanderlust

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/12/12/saddest-white-house-doggie-christmas-picture-ever-may-expose-secret-behind-obamas-wanderlust/

  244. TO:

    JustMe // December 11, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Cheney should be in prison. He’s the real terrorist.
    ================

    Looks like the Erosionist Propaganda and Brainwashing has worked on some of our own here and elsewhere.

    The Communist Wing of the CIA is behind what they try and blame on Bush/Cheney, they are only the fall guys, the real Domestic Terrorists are the infiltrators and facilitators from the Communist Wing of the CIA, et al….driven by the World Rich Groups like tri-lateral, bilderberg, etc. Don’t fall for the Propaganda BS otherwise you are aiding the enemy…..
    *******************************************Peter….you are right….you can google anything these days to try and support your point of view….there is so-o-o-o much untruth out there about Bush and Cheney it isn’t even funny…..no wonder we are in this mess!!!!

  245. TICKTOCK……………………………..

    The injections you speak of are probably what we know as Epidural Injections. Maybe this reflects the difference in geography and perhaps language. But in the event that this is something different that we are not aware of please keep us updated if you will. Who knows somebody at your end could be using something that our natives here in Indiana have never heard of!

  246. The White House Tracking Atlas readers

    http://www.repubx.com/

  247. #

    oldsalt77 // December 12, 2009 at 11:04 am

    JUST ME……………………………………….

    If you can put absolute proof to your charges then by all means you should do so, history needs accuracy. Otherwise if this is only hearsay then it is probably best to be dropped. Again I hope that you can successfully demonstrate these charges in court. Again I believe that you need to pursue your beliefs to fruition.
    ******************************************

    OldSalt….You hit the nail on the head…..the reason we are stuck with the FRAUD is because of all the lyin’ BS that was out there about Bush and Cheney…..the MSM led the Bush Derangement Syndrome and it is still alive and well……because of it we are stuck with a lot worse now!!! the Communist way!

  248. BUSH CHENEY were horrible, I agree . They are RINOs that have continued teh Erosion of the Contry and Constitution BUT….don’t pile on along with the Erosionist Morons.
    They big economic decline that we are in today was brought on by the Erosionists when they took a Majority in Nov 2006. They voted for thsi mess including Obamateur and than cry like babies that they “inherited” it. No they inherited what they Voted For since 2006.

  249. Jacqlyn Smith…………………………….

    It seems that literally everywhere we look anymore we see phoney everything, and alleged leaders who’s only proficeincy seems to be in the lies that they try to ram down our throats. Unfortunately for the liars in Congress the American public knew better long before the liars were even there, or perhaps even on earth yet. There used to be a old finger position used towards this it was the first and last fingers protruding upward at the same time.which I see as possibly representative of BULLS horns.

  250. Michelle

    I get accusesd of being deaf, and very proficient at changing the subject, all the time does that qualify me as a szar? If I learn that I am qualified to be a maybe Soetoro will allow me to supplement my income by typing up books of “how to change the subject efficiently, and peddle them to all of his szars. A few of them have already been shot down by Glenn Beck, and Company. My wife tells me that I am really great at changing the subject.

  251. Laura’s E-Blast
    http://www.lauraingraham.com/site/rd?satype=40&said=4&camid=622984798179071&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.LauraIngraham.com>
    December 11, 2009

    Momentum Building for Code Red Rally

    It’s time we all stop pretending that what is happening with this ObamaCare debate is about “helping the uninsured” or “fixing the healthcare system” or “giving the people what they want.” It’s about none of those things. Its about amassing as much power in a central government as humanly possible. It’s about wealth redistribution. It’s social engineering at its absolute worst.

    The American people must take this political system back from those who have hijacked it in one of the most abhorrent power grabs that we the voters have ever seen. It’s the holiday season so the Democrats are counting on you to be otherwise occupied and too busy to stand against their massive expansion of government. Let them underestimate us again just as they did last summer. Let these unrepresentative politicians proceed with their legislative chicanery and self-righteous grandstanding. We can expose them and confront them in the classic American spirit–a public gathering on their doorstep. On December 15th at 1:30pm, we will remind Pelosi, Reid, Schumer et al. that they work for us and not the other way around. We will demand that they follow the will of the people, not dismiss and degrade it by putting future generations into a deficit dungeon. We will put every politician who supports this travesty on notice: enjoy your remaining time in the U.S. Capitol because we’re coming for your seat.

    The American people will not forget those who turned their backs on us and voted for a bill that they hadn’t read and which will do nothing but ensure that one of the best healthcare systems in the world is compromised.

    Momentum is building for the Code Red Rally

  252. Michell @ 12:41pm, Those are the same qualifications for the President,obviously.

  253. Oldsalt, Yes, that’s a possibility. The doc describes them as anti-inflamatory. I will definitely keep you updated. If it’s different, it may be something that could help your wife.

  254. Sorry see, Michell@12:56, on the qualifications.

  255. OldSalt77,

    New Opening in Obama Administration:
    BIRTH CERTIFICATE CZAR

    Applicant must be …

    1. Willing to seek the truth and uphold the Constitution.

    2. Willing to infiltrate the present “czar
    administration” just until the assignment/truth
    has been discovered.

    3. Willing to be called a Patriot.

    4. Willing to turn into a “Navy Seal” if needed
    instantly.

    More qualifications to follow.

    Nominations may also be made here: e-mail
    Maddie
    ++++++++++++

    As I proposed last night, we need a

    “BIRTH CERTIFICATE CZAR”– not
    another “lawyer” in this case.

    Qualifications stated under my post at 1:02
    with more “job activities” to be added.

    This BC Czar would work closely with the
    “Birthers” in future rallies and events.

    @ Maddie —copyright:)

  256. Don in California

    Maddie // December 12, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    OT: At Hobby Lobby I was greeted this morning with “Merry Christmas” from the clerk,
    Christmas music playing, and found a little
    red bowtie for a 5-yr. old for the “Christmas
    Program” (yes, they are singing Christmas songs, too.) Does it get any better than that?
    Happy here.
    _________________
    Maddie, David Green, Hobby Lobby, is a strong Christian.My wife worked at the Hobby Lobby Corp. Headquarters in Oklahoma City for many years. Hobby Lobby bought the Mel Tillis theater in Branson, MO and donated it to the local church. He also tithes 10% of all profits to his church. He is a great and wonderful man. I have met him a couple of times.

    As a side note, he started the business out of his garage in Oklahoma City and has built it up to what it is today. Hobby Lobby is not a publicly owned business. His family are the sole owners.

    Merry Christmas to all!

  257. TMINU…………………………………………….

    What you describe is something that you need to show everybody how to do. It requires somebody who can think on their feet verbally and be able to fire a verbal torpedo at the enemy, which is really linguistically programmed to caue the enemy to hyper ventilate themselves into their heads exploding. The science lies in keeping the enemy so damned steamed that they will blurt out anything in anger. That DOES really tell the truth about them. They can’t handle their own sort of BULL crap being rammed back at them. Nor do very many of the OBOTS possess the verbal skills to effectively argue their insane conjecture honestly. That is why they BLOW UP AND HANG UP on callers. We need to keep this up several times a day, or even several times each hour. At the end of the day they will be ready to beat the hell out of the first person who they can reach. They are MORONS and if they start it then the intended victim is JUSTIFIED in FINISHING it with a base ball bat. Even in the old days this was a Democratic behavior thing. They would have people severly beaten or even killed if it suited their purposes. There used to be a Tammany Hall Mentality which permeated the Democratic party literally from day one. In Boston they used to enlist the help of the so called SHANTY IRISH in beating people up.They even had some of their OWN DEMS roughed up if they wanted them to drop out from competing for office. The mine owners in the South used to HIRE train loads of the SHANTY IRISH and used them as strike breakers against John L LEWISs union knotheads. Many of his strikers ended up with a lot of knots on their heads. This sort of thing was quite prevalent in the 20s,30s, and even into the 40s. It is conceivable that one day soon people will once again be carrying PEACEMAKERS in plain view whenever they visit the grocery,the bank, or perhaps even to the voting booth, and it is also just as likely that most of those peopl will make themselves really good at using their weapons. Many people already have liscenses to carry concealed weapons. Here in Indiana you need a liscense to carry a weapon in plain sight , or concealed.

  258. **** New Post ****

  259. Don in California

    I’ve been reading to catch up from last night and I only have one question.

    Regardless of when or who started the decline of the U.S., what do we do to stop it.

    We all need to stop trying to blame carter, bush, clinton etc and figure out what to do to keep us a free and strong nation. I’m not smart enough to tell anyone else how to do it, but I do know that it will take us all to make a difference.

  260. Don,
    Wow! I’m glad to know the background info
    on Hobby Lobby—I go there frequently. They have kids’ trains, crafts, and sewing—my favorites to buy. I am glad that they are a
    Christian company and even better that you
    know the owner and can vouch for him.
    Knowing that it started as a “small business”
    or “cottage industry” makes it even better in my book—I’ll continue to shop there.
    Thanks, again, Don, for letting me know!

    Merry Christmas, too, Don!

  261. Don in California

    Maddie , you are quite welcome. My wife is still friends with and in contact with one of the Vice Presidents. We both enjoy shopping there, when we go where they are located. David Green refuses to open a store in California due to the political climate here. So, we have to go to AZ to do any shopping at Hobby Lobby. lol

    God bless and keep you all.

  262. Tick Tock

    Good to hear you’ve found some relief. I don’t know much about miracles, but 21 yrs of pain free living is as close to a miracle as I deserve. Thought I’d end up with permanent “club foot” but luckily it turned out differently. I still hook my feet over the edge every night. Who would have thought.

    Small world this is indeed. For years I worked for Gaw O’Hara Envelope Co in Chicago. One of our biggest customers was Harry & David. We literally manufactured 10’s of millions of catalog envelopes for them and others. Still enjoy their fine pears and other produce today.

    Merry Christmas to you and yours.

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