WHO to stop using swine flu name, H1N1 influenza A, World Health Organization announcement, April 30, 2009, confusion over the danger posed by pigs, Egypt slaughter of pigs, UN food agency concerns

From the Chicago Tribune April 30, 2009.

“WHO to stop using ‘swine flu’ name to avoid confusion over risk from pigs”

“The World Health Organization announced Thursday it will would stop using the term “swine flu” to avoid confusion over the danger posed by pigs. The policy shift came a day after Egypt began slaughtering thousands of pigs in a misguided effort to prevent swine flu.

WHO spokesman Dick Thompson said the agriculture industry and the U.N. food agency had expressed concerns that the term “swine flu” was misleading consumers and needlessly causing countries to ban pork products and order the slaughter of pigs.

“Rather than calling this swine flu … we’re going to stick with the technical scientific name H1N1 influenza A,” Thompson said.

The swine flu virus originated in pigs, and has genes from human, bird and pig viruses. Scientists don’t know exactly how it jumped to humans. In the current outbreak, WHO says the virus is being spread from human to human, not from contact with infected pigs.

 

Egypt began slaughtering its roughly 300,000 pigs Wednesday even though experts said swine flu is not linked to pigs and not spread by eating pork. Angry farmers protested the government decree.

In Paris, the World Organization for Animal Health said Thursday “there is no evidence of infection in pigs, nor of humans acquiring infection directly from pigs.”

Killing pigs “will not help to guard against public or animal health risks” presented by the virus and “is inappropriate,” the group said in a statement.”

“WHO also reported the number of confirmed swine flu cases rose to 257 worldwide Thursday, with cases in Mexico rising to 97 from 26, with seven deaths. The WHO confirmed tally from the United States now stands at 109, with one death.

Other confirmed cases include 34 in Canada, 13 in Spain, eight in Britain, three each in Germany and New Zealand, two in Israel and one each in Austria, Switzerland and the Netherlands.”

Read more:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/swineflu/sns-ap-un-who-swine-flu,0,7922234.story

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73 responses to “WHO to stop using swine flu name, H1N1 influenza A, World Health Organization announcement, April 30, 2009, confusion over the danger posed by pigs, Egypt slaughter of pigs, UN food agency concerns

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  2. “Dr. Heymann, the agency’s chief of communicable diseases, said he was not blaming the company involved, Baxter Healthcare of Deerfield, Ill.”

    More Chicago connections, too.

  3. citizenwells

    I just spoke to Larry Sinclair.
    I will be reviewing the first 11 chapters of his book.
    After reading, I will write a review.

  4. CW – we’ll be looking forward to that. My guess is you won’t be getting much sleep tonight!

  5. Uh oh – more corruption in Chicago. It’s getting to be a “Daley” event.

    http://www.foundingbloggers.com/wordpress/2009/04/pay-to-play-public-pension-fund-crimes-in-chicago/

  6. “Michelle Obama joins People “most beautiful” list”

    What in heaven’s name is this? I saw it earlier. Are these people absolutely 100% idiots?

    And I already know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but how can they name someone so hateful be “beautiful”?

  7. Well, let’s call it the Obama Flu, that’s fine with me. The name is fitting, a swine!

  8. kittycat,

    Nice. What do you think about calling it the DHS flu. After all they’re the ones calling the “shots”, pun intended.

  9. “Well, let’s call it the Obama Flu, that’s fine with me. The name is fitting, a swine!”

    Kittycat—-love this statement. How true!!!
    +++++++
    Had our pomegranate juice today—very powerful! I am going to add olives as I love them
    and as you say about Biblical foods being a great idea—figs and dates would be good, too.

  10. CW,
    I’m glad to hear the news on Larry’s book review.
    Can’t wait!

  11. Laura Bush should be on the “beautiful people”
    list!

  12. It looks like the soetoro will be appointing one of his own to the Supreme Court.

    “Souter to retire from Supreme Court”
    WASHINGTON – Supreme Court Justice David Souter plans to retire, sources told NBC News Thursday night.

    Speculation about Souter’s plans began to swirl as the eight other justices were known to have hired the four law clerks who will work with them in the Supreme Court term that begins in October. Souter has been the lone holdout, hiring no one.

    A retirement by Souter, 69, would give President Barack Obama his first chance to nominate a justice and the next few months would bring Senate confirmation hearings.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30508968/

  13. Proof Obama had foreign AIDE when attending college, and nowhere it is reported.
    http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=123895;title=APFN

    Spred the word!! NOOBAMA

  14. Texas ER Doctor: Swine Flu Much Worse Than Feared

    The following email was written by Dr. Marcus Gitterle, MD Christus Santa Rosa Health Care In New Braunfels, and leaked on the internet. Hosipital spokespersons have authenticated the email, but refuse further comment.

    The email was sent to family members, and It speaks for itself.

    http://www.sanantoniolightning.com/gitterle.html

  15. AND MORE

    Evidence of Obama’s forged birth certificate; http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2052236/posts

  16. Michelle Obama looks like a Pyhrana fish, evil

  17. It once was said, that the day a black man became President of the United States,

    Pigs would fly

    Well, 100 days into Obamas Presidency, and

    Swine-flew 🙂

  18. “Laura Bush should be on the “beautiful people”

    Maddie:

    All I can say is “Amen.” She was pretty, wasn’t she? And she never went around with a hateful look on her face.

    I’m sick of those idiots. Michelle just had the most hateful look on her face when she was hearing Hillary speak and saying bye-bye. But Michelle looked like she could have jumped up and beat the you-know-what out of her while Hillary was giving her speech, so there was some very bad stuff going on between those two. It was kind of funny, to be honest. Almost a cat fight!

    Anyway, Maddie, have more olive oil (extra virgin) in your foods and include the fresh-pressed garlic in your salads. Fresh garlic has antibiotic, antiviral effects also. It’s important. This is kind of gross to think, but if you eat 4 to 6 cloves of garlic per day, a person can pass worms. That’s a fact! I’m talking about it all being pressed, which garlic doesn’t have the same benefit unless it’s freshly pressed with a spoon or a hand-held press because that releases the allicin in it.

  19. LM,

    Interesting information. If indeed it is as bad as they say, we’re in for some rough seas ahead.

    I can say this. My son is ill now with the flu (most likely not the H1N1 as he’s doing alright) and I am feeling the sore throat coming on. BUT, I have been taking 5000 IU of Vitamin D right now and sure enough I’m really battling it better than any other flue attack in the past. I feel really good.

    Vitamin D supplements are the answer. Get your supply of D before the secret is out.

  20. More news on the H1N1, i.e. Obama Virus:

    http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-30-2009/0005016730&EDATE=

    K-State Researcher Finds That the 1918 Spanish Flu Virus Can Infect Swine and Resulted in Current Lineage of H1N1 Swine Influenza Viruses

    MANHATTAN, Kan., April 30 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — In 1918 a human influenza virus known as the Spanish flu spread through the central United States while a swine respiratory disease occurred concurrently. A Kansas State University researcher has found that the virus causing the pandemic was able to infect and replicate in pigs, but did not kill them, unlike in other mammalian hosts like monkeys, mice and ferrets where the infection has been lethal.

    Juergen A. Richt, Regents Distinguished Professor of Diagnostic Medicine and Pathobiology at K-State’s College of Veterinary Medicine, studied the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic with colleagues from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, U.S. Department of Agriculture and Mount Sinai School of Medicine.

    Their research supports the hypothesis that the 1918 pandemic influenza virus and the virus causing the swine flu were the same. Richt said the virus was able to infect and replicate in swine and cause mild respiratory disease. The 1918 virus spread through the pig population, adapted to the swine and resulted in the current lineage of the H1N1 swine influenza viruses. The researchers’ study is published in the May 2009 Journal of Virology.

    “This study emphasizes that an influenza virus, which is known to induce a lethal infection in ferrets and macaques, is not highly virulent in pigs, indicating a potential resistance of swine to highly virulent influenza viruses,” Richt said. “It also suggests that pigs could have played a role in maintaining and spreading the 1918 human pandemic influenza virus.”

    Swine flu is a respiratory disease of pigs caused by type A influenza that regularly causes outbreaks of influenza among the animals and can be transmitted to humans. It is a typical zoonotic agent. While swine flu was first recognized as a disease in 1918, there also were reports of the influenza occurring in the Midwest in 1930.

    For the study, the researchers used the 1918 pandemic virus and a 1930 H1N1 influenza virus for experimental infections in swine. The 1930 virus was chosen as a virus because it is thought to be a descendent of the 1918 virus, Richt said.

    The researchers did not find a significant difference in effects from the 1918 and 1930 viruses in infected pigs. This was surprising, since the 1918 virus killed more than 20 million people and was lethal to ferrets, mice and macaques. Another surprising finding from the study was the rapid antibody response in the animals infected with the 1918 virus, which is not typically reported for the swine influenza virus.

    Richt said he plans to conduct a follow-up project that will study what makes a swine flu virus a pandemic flu virus.

    The researchers conducted the study in the biosafety-level 4 laboratory and animal cubicle at the National Centre for Foreign Animal Disease in Canada.

  21. To the South @ 11:03, lol, thats so funny!

  22. Jacqlyn Smith

    This is off the subject but…..Does anyone else here think it is rather peculiar that Eric Holder…AG would be out of the country at this time?? I believe he went to England!! Do you think he is on a mission for the IMPOSTER??? I am highly suspicious!

  23. This flu crisis may just be a trial run…..before the camps and the caskets come into play.

  24. Who were the Occidental transcripts released to and what are they doing with them? Does anyone know?

  25. Obama, as far as I can figure, was the best pick for the NWO folks, because with him you get the NWO, and with protest against him getting more virulent, you have reason to impose martial law to push forward the NWO all the more; with conspiracy to support him you subborn entire govt to the NWO, because no one in power is left who has a patriotic record. They are all comprimised and sold out for power and money…MSM included…

  26. ATTENTION: the story posted above by NOOMABA, regarding the Occidental College Records was shown to be a spoof on other sites. But the Link which NOOBAMA gave us goes to a page with Malware attatched.

    Bogus stories, that would be catchy to patriots are the perfect way to plant spyware in the computers of those resisting O. Beware…

  27. The man who got the media to stop using the name “swine flu,” is actually a very good friend of mine.

    He pointed out the obvious that no “swine” had contracted the disease, and that the outbreak was actually being used to persecute Christians around the world.

    He is a well-known and very effective spokesman for the American farmer. He was planning to challenge Barack Obama back in 2004, before Alan Keyes entered the Illinois Senate race.

  28. http://www.pointofview.net/site/PageServer?pagename=Hate_Crimes
    Petition to tell them No on Hate Crimes Bill.Please read !

  29. magna carta

    Does anyone know if the nomination for SCOTUS can be blocked by the few Americans left standing (as opposed to commies)?

  30. Can anybody provide a link to Ron Polarik? I have repeatedly tried a connection via free republic, but can only obtain an error message. It is really urgent that I contact him. This is in regard to the alleged vault certificate which is also alledgedly in production.

  31. Jacqlyn Smith

    This is a great article by Gov. Mark Sanford….and why we must organize behind a changed GOP party if we are going to get the Executive and Legislative branches of government back to some sanity!!! We can not afford to have the Democraps in control of all branches!!! Go to http://www.humanevents.com for the whole story.

    *****************************************

    Obama’s Path to a Lost Decade
    by Gov. Mark Sanford
    04/30/2009

    For better or worse, many Americans invested a great deal of hope in President Obama’s election, and while we clearly can’t pass judgment on the entirety of Barack Obama’s presidency after just a hundred days, now seems like a reasonable time to take a step back and evaluate his administration to date.

    Based on the campaign that President Obama ran, and the expectations that he therefore set for his presidency, it seems to me that there are two arenas in which it is fair to judge him — on policy and on political terms. On the policy front, those judgments are fairly straightforward: do we believe the decisions he’s made will in the end have a positive or negative effect on our nation? On the political front we have a different metric, one set by the President himself: has he truly ushered in an era of the “new politics” we were promised or are we — using words we heard a fair amount last year — looking at more of the same?

    To those who have followed the spirited back-and-forth on the merits of President Obama’s stimulus plan the following should not come as much of a surprise, but I believe the policy prescriptions the President has chosen as the means to combat the economic crisis will prove disastrous for this country in the long-run.

    First, history shows us quite clearly that a government cannot spend its way out of an economic downturn. It didn’t work in Japan in the 1990s, when the ten stimulus packages implemented over an eight year period failed to prevent the “lost decade.” Nor did it work during our own Great Depression, when FDR’s own Treasury Secretary lamented the fact that massive spending had brought them little in the way of increased employment and much in the way of debt.

    Yet spending our way out of this situation is precisely what the President is attempting to do, and the nearly $800 billion stimulus package is merely the tip of the iceberg. Bloomberg recently reported that our government has now “spent, lent, or committed” $12.8 trillion in its attempt to blunt the recession. Fairness demands that we point out this money was not all spent on President Obama’s watch — his predecessor surely deserves a portion of the responsibility, but just as surely this President has exacerbated the problem at least tenfold.

    Second, the recent string of invasive actions by the federal government has completely altered the long-defined and successful relationship between the private sector and the government in this country. In his well-regarded essay, “The Spirit of Democratic Capitalism,” AEI scholar Michael Novak points out that “No state had so legitimated and separated the economic sphere [from government] as did the fledgling United States,” and that that was indeed central to the genius of America.

    I’d suggest that anyone observing what’s taken place recently would be hard pressed to argue that this administration has worked to maintain that separation. To use just one example, a few weeks back President Obama effectively fired the Chairman and CEO of General Motors, the same company that was once revered as an icon of American economic prowess.

    An economic environment in which winners and losers are determined not by the market but by political fiat undermines the real stimulus of our economy — private capital. For entrepreneurs to take risks in the marketplace they need to have an understanding of what the rules are and that’s not possible when they see ad-hoc bailouts and the President taking unilateral action in the economy as he has.

    Third, the level of debt that the Obama administration is encouraging will have dire consequences. I could quote an army of statistics on this front, but I’ll stick to one: according to the Congressional Budget Office the budget submitted by the President would double the national debt over the next decade. Think about what that means — a debt that took us over 200 years to accrue will be twice as large just ten years from now. With debt levels of that nature you can paint a scary picture for things like the value of the dollar and the tax burden on future generations.

    So the bottom line is I’m not high on the policy component of President Obama’s first hundred days, and while I’d love to say I feel differently about the political front, unfortunately I can’t here either.

    In his inaugural address, the President proclaimed “an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn-out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics,” something I joined with millions of Americans in hoping for as my years in public life have reinforced how needed that change is.

    Yet when I proposed using a portion of the stimulus dollars to pay down debt in South Carolina, under the notion that states are the laboratories of democracy and a one-size fits all approach dictated from Washington does not fit with the principles this nation was indeed founded upon, President Obama’s DNC launched attack ads against me. Worse, these ads hit the airwaves before the White House even bothered to respond to our waiver request. I’d suggest that actions like these shatter the idea of “change” the President so eloquently articulated in his inaugural.

    While there’s clearly been a lot to disappoint in President Obama’s first hundred days, for conservatives there may indeed be a silver lining. It’s the notion that Newton’s Third Law — for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction — may not apply just to physics but to politics as well. We’ve seen some of that reaction with the Tea Party protests that rose up organically across this nation, and as the President continues to overreach conservatives have a real opportunity to present an agenda centered on fiscal sanity that will become increasingly attractive to more and more Americans.

  32. Thanks Minuteman, but I already went to that site. Will my Norton block that?

  33. SIGN PETITION TO PROTECT U.S. SOVEREIGNTY

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94298

    Please sign and pass on

    *********************************

    U.S. sovereignty on swap block – Obama negotiating for seat for U.S. on U.N. commission

    The Obama administration is preparing to swap U.S. sovereignty for a higher level of U.S. presence at the United Nations, a plan that has alarmed officials working to protect the rights of Americans, specifically the parental rights that traditionally have been recognized across the nation’s history.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=96706

  34. Jacqlyn Smith,

    The GOP cannot be changed. They are as corrupt, if not more corrupt, than the democratic party. Otherwise we would not be in the political and Constitutional crisis we’re in today. People can blame America. People can blame the democrats. People can blame the republicans. It doesn’t matter. The system is broken and drastic change is required.

    Conservatives in this country must regroup and either: a) create a new political party, or b) join an existing conservative party, such as the Constitution Party, and build the inner workings and platform that is Constitutionally clear, solid, and relatively free of corruption.

    If conservatives continue to place rubber bands, duct tape, and bailing wire around the GOP, it’s still a corrupt political hodgepodge of a party.

    It’s time to move on and change the entire structure. This will spark the change: tell the GOP they’re going the way of the dodo and that their time is limited in positions of public trust. During this time, the party can be extremely selective in who it chooses. And this means ZERO existing nitwits from Congress. These people have proven how effective they are in FAILING the American people.

    Do we want winners or do we want losers to play “quarterback” and “offensive line” for us? I didn’t think so.

  35. magna carta

    The politicians need to be tied to the planks in their party or face a day in court and/or recall.

  36. magna carta

    Bob,
    I like Savage’s name: Napolitano Flu.OPEN BORDERS= DISEASE=RUN on OUR RESOURCES!

  37. JeffM
    >a) create a new political party
    Probably the best way to go but it would require a great deal of money. I’m like a lot of other people, I could donate time but money would be the tough part. The internet could be used to raise awareness as I’m sure the MSM would not be of any help

  38. “It once was said, that the day a black man became President of the United States,
    Pigs would flyWell, 100 days into Obamas Presidency, and

    Swine-flew :)”

    Oh, this is funny! I needed the laugh.

  39. Whoever told us about their Vit. D that they got from a place called Bio Tech, is this the place? If so, what kind did you get?

    Thanks

    https://www.professionalsupplementcenter.com/Category.aspx?categoryid=232

  40. Here is a link that says Vit D3 is much more effective that Vit D2.

    http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/11/5387

  41. Hi Kittycat and All,

    Just popping on for a second.

    The numbers of H1N1 cases being reported are far lower that what’s really happening; this may be in part due to the fact that folks are still being screened. Local health departments and states simply don’t have the tools to screen for this virus, but I understand that the procedures and protocols will be locally available shortly.

    As it is now, preliminary screening can be done via your local and state healthcare providers to analyze for ‘regular,’ already-known flu strains however, questionable samples must be sent to the CDC in Atlanta. This is why samples may take up to a week + to analyze. The CDC is getting pelted with samples for analysis, as you might imagine.

    It’s hard to fathom that each state (with the exception of NY) has one or two confirmed cases, but ‘suspect’ cases aren’t factored in to that count.

    I seriously doubt that anyone, other than perhaps a few high-placed government officials, will ever know if this is a natural virus combination. It’s just not something that’s being disseminated.

    More to come.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The South // April 30, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    Thanks, South, I actually had 5 seconds of free time to chuckle. Good one :).

  42. Hi, Sue:

    Thanks for your update because I know that you’re sooooooo busy right now. There was an article earlier at Drudge saying that there’s no way to know how many swine flu cases — oops, I mean, BO flu cases there are because labs are swamped now.

    Yes, I did love that joke too. I have to pass that on to a friend.

  43. Adam Kokesh is running for Congres!

    Read it here

  44. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N30274065.htm

    “findings show the virus did not come directly from pigs”.

  45. Venice,

    Good find on that article.

  46. kittycat // May 1, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Hi Kittycat,
    Yup, busier than a one-armed paperhanger with a blindfold on (no offense to one-armed paperhangers intended).

    TGIF!
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    venice // May 1, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    Hi Venice,
    Good article-thanks for posting. We understand that NOT ONE pig has tested positive thus far.

    Just waiting for a few pig test results showing this strain to perhaps shed some light as to where this came from.

  47. J Smith

    Dont know if you got this yet, but Rush said yesterday Holder is in Germany begging them to take some terrorists from gitmo!!

  48. venice,

    We know the current virus did not come from pigs. However, what most people don’t know is that the original 1918 Spanish flu is still alive and well in pigs to this day. The world has built up immunities to this strain.

    It is my firm belief that this is why the “manufactured” version of the A1 strain of swine flu is not attacking as aggressive as is normally would. The base DNA for this new virus is still the swine variant from 1918.

    Add the fact many Americans received a vaccine in the 70’s and you can see why we have seen no deaths (so far) in the U.S. to citizens of the U.S. I don’t believe Mexico ever received the 70’s vaccine, but I could be wrong. That could explain why they are dying when Americans and other countries who received vaccines in the 70’s are not.

  49. The South,

    A very POWERFUL speech from Kokesh!! He speaks for US, We the People.

    Eagle, do not be concerned about money. It is not needed. What his needed are people. Door to door. Place to place. Flyers. Etc. Money is the last thing this movement needs for change.

  50. JeffM // May 1, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    venice,

    We know the current virus did not come from pigs. However, what most people don’t know is that the original 1918 Spanish flu is still alive and well in pigs to this day. The world has built up immunities to this strain.

    It is my firm belief that this is why the “manufactured” version of the A1 strain of swine flu is not attacking as aggressive as is normally would. The base DNA for this new virus is still the swine variant from 1918.

    Add the fact many Americans received a vaccine in the 70’s and you can see why we have seen no deaths (so far) in the U.S. to citizens of the U.S. I don’t believe Mexico ever received the 70’s vaccine, but I could be wrong. That could explain why they are dying when Americans and other countries who received vaccines in the 70’s are not.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hi Jeff,

    I think it may have been termed ‘swine flu’ because of the two-swine-component to it.

    As you alluded to in a previous post, we’ve not yet seen the ‘cytokine storms’ (an overreaction of the immune system) that were the hallmark of the 1918 flu. Let’s hope we don’t.

    As you know, viruses mutate so depending on where these pigs originated, it may very well be a natural combination of the four viruses; we just don’t know. Those facts are being kept very close to the vest if they are known. Everyone seems to have an opinion…

    If, in fact, the base DNA is the swine variant from the 1918 Spanish flu (and that’s logical), that would be a reasonable explanation as to why it appears to be non-lethal in the U.S. population who had the vaccine as opposed to Mexicand who may never have had the vaccine (I cannot verify that, either).

    I also look to the socioeconomic climate of the U.S. versus that of Mexico, and also the U.S. healthcare system. I believe that’s an important factor in the mortality figures.

    Also, there is a possibility that from its inception in Mexico (we think) is has quickly mutated to a non-lethal form as it’s moved along.

    Anything’s possible, but your theory seems sound. Thanks for the food for thought.

  51. All,
    A bit off topic but if you haven’t had a chance to read Nicoloff’s article with regard to the extensive photoshopping of literally all of the Obama Family photo’s…it is a must read. //M-P
    http://web.mac.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Articles/Entries/2009/4/25_The_Three_Stooges_go_to_Washington%2C_Part_6.html

  52. Army D.A.V.

    OT.

    Roth radio show

    Birth certificate, Joseph Farrah, WND.

    LtCol Allen West gives Obama an F.

    Thursday, April 30, 2009 Archive.

    http://therothshow.com/show-archives/april-2009/

  53. http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/

    Update on the number of laboratory confirmed cases.

  54. http://www.brownfieldnetwork.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=F399D964-5056-B82A-D050C33113E5FCA2

    Oh those poor pigs in Egypt and worst still the persecuted Christians.

  55. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    JeffM // May 1, 2009 at 10:27 am

    Jacqlyn Smith,

    The GOP cannot be changed. They are as corrupt, if not more corrupt, than the democratic party. Otherwise we would not be in the political and Constitutional crisis we’re in today. People can blame America. People can blame the democrats. People can blame the republicans. It doesn’t matter. The system is broken and drastic change is required.

    Conservatives in this country must regroup and either: a) create a new political party, or b) join an existing conservative party, such as the Constitution Party, and build the inner workings and platform that is Constitutionally clear, solid, and relatively free of corruption.

    If conservatives continue to place rubber bands, duct tape, and bailing wire around the GOP, it’s still a corrupt political hodgepodge of a party.

    It’s time to move on and change the entire structure. This will spark the change: tell the GOP they’re going the way of the dodo and that their time is limited in positions of public trust. During this time, the party can be extremely selective in who it chooses. And this means ZERO existing nitwits from Congress. These people have proven how effective they are in FAILING the American people.

    Do we want winners or do we want losers to play “quarterback” and “offensive line” for us? I didn’t think so.
    ************************************************
    Believe what you must….but organizing two or three more parties will not defeat the Dems or Repubs….so going with the least of two evils right now is our best chance of getting a foot in the door to change the GOP…and I don’t agree with you….it can be done!!!

  56. Jacqlyn
    A few months ago I would have agreed with you. Sorry to say now after doing more studying I’ve come to the conclusion that the republicans are just as bad as the dems. Even Ron Paul is afraid to question the credentials of Barry or maybe it’s not fear at all. Audit the fed or end the fed? Not a chance. We the people are had by one party, vote another one in with their promises of what we want to hear and it’s a never ending cycle. Have a look at some of the posts at Iratenation.com and maybe you will understand my new point of view. The two party system as it exists today is just an illusion.

  57. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Eagle // May 1, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Jacqlyn
    A few months ago I would have agreed with you. Sorry to say now after doing more studying I’ve come to the conclusion that the republicans are just as bad as the dems. Even Ron Paul is afraid to question the credentials of Barry or maybe it’s not fear at all. Audit the fed or end the fed? Not a chance. We the people are had by one party, vote another one in with their promises of what we want to hear and it’s a never ending cycle. Have a look at some of the posts at Iratenation.com and maybe you will understand my new point of view. The two party system as it exists today is just an illusion.
    ************************************************

    That is why you become an Independent and do your homework and vote for the candidate and not along party lines…..but just because someone is a registered Republican should not rule them out as a person to vote for!!! I am an Independent and will wait to see who the candidates are and then decide who will get my vote….Last year I voted for Alan Keyes….I wish he would have run as a Republican though because I think he would have had a chance….I feel I wasted my vote! More parties…more division from the Conservative and Constitutionalist…..we must beat them at their own game if this nation is going to be a 2 party system and it looks like that is what we are facing!! The majority of registered voters are either Dem or Repub….so to get a new party going….even if the rest of the registered voters voted for the some of the new parties you would still most likely lose to the Dem or the Repub as evidenced by the Libertarian party…..we must hook up with the GOP and get the right candidates with the right agenda in place~~~The repubs are closer to the Conservative and Constitutional principles than the Dems….even if they are wrong too!!

  58. Kittycat, it was me. I take vitamin D3. The link you have on your page isn’t where I get mine. On my search engine I type in Bio Tech Vitamin D3 Cholecalciferol. I get the bottle that says D3-5—–1oo capsules—5,000 IU. It costs around 7-8 dollars a bottle. My doctor also says Iodoral( Iodine) can help…also don’t forget about probiotics…keeps the good bacteria up to help you fight off sickness.

  59. Vicki, thanks a lot. Did you get tested to see if you have a deficiency? I was reading, though, that 5,000 IU is safe for just about anyone who doesn’t get sun, is dark-skinned, and uses sunblocks. so that shouldn’t be a problem for me. I don’t get sun, and I really should be getting some as Mercola says in the summer at certain hours, early hours.

    Since I work at home and then when I have a job I’m so busy that I don’t have the time to get sun, guess that I should get some.

    thanks

  60. Vicki, do you have a link that you order them from? I still see a higher price and I put in what you said. Maybe you get yours from your doctor’s office?

    thanks

  61. kittycat, sorry that didn’t work. I don’t know how to do links…when my daughter gets home I’ll ask her to show me how. Until then try this http://www.bio-tech-pharm.com when their web page comes up click on vitamin D Cholecalciferol on the left hand side. after that page comes up, the bottle I take is the 3rd one down…it says you can buy it for $7.30.

    My daugher and I were both tested. Even after a year on this dose we both tested low again.
    Sorry I’m not very good with computers yet. 🙂

  62. Hahaha I see it automatically makes a link if I type in the web address…..man do I feel dumb

  63. Kittycat: You mentioned Mercola. He has a vit D spray product that is very good. It goes under the tongue and is absorbed very easily. Not bad tasting either. I have stomach issues–gerd– and take nexium. Since it alters the acid and my digestive abilities, it affects absorption in my gut. I look for supplements that I can take that by-pass my digestive system. The nano sprays he offers are good for me. He also has great articles on vit D.

  64. Hi, CJ:

    We just ordered some B-12 spray from Mercola. Seems to work very good too. I may have to check into this also.

    thanks, and thanks, Vicki!

  65. Oldsalt76,

    Have you ever tried using Collodial Silver for your shingles?

    I’ve been studying up on the CSilver, and i’ve read about a hundred reviews today from people who had shingles, and start taking CSilver, and it…

    Disappeared almost overnight.

    If you haven’t researched it buddy, you might give it try.

  66. Anonymouse

    Snopes dot com has more on Dr. Gitterle’s email to his family. He disclaims some of it . . . but not all of it.

  67. Anonymouse

    Remember the synergistic effect between vitamins C and E. Together (not just C or just E, but together) they help to prevent, and/or lessen the severity of, colds and flu.

  68. It’s time to let them know we mean it. If anyone wants to use this letter you are welcome.

    Dear Congressman, Senator, Judge, or . . .

    THE GREAT OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT SILENCE WILL BE BROKEN

    Since Obama’s inauguration, enough information, legal opinion, legal action and legal response has come forward to come to a fairly reasonable conclusion:

    1. Obama is not eligible to be president under the rules of the Constitution
    2. The judicial system, Congress, Senate, the Supreme and MSM knows this
    3. They for whatever reasons—chose to ignore this vital fact, and do nothing
    4. Since over 100 law suits against Obama has been dismissed on “standing” some of the public feels Obama can not be defeated on this issue
    5. Instead investigating this too important issue—most have chosen to ridicule, demean, deny, avoid, or threaten any and all patriots who have brought this to their attention.

    THIS SILENCE IS THE MOST INCRIMINATING INDICTMENT THE PUBLIC HAS AGAINST THIS NOW TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT.

    IF THIS SILENCE IS NOT SOON BROKEN, IT WILL SPARK THE BEGINNING OF A CIVIL WAR WHICH WILL TURN INTO AN REVOLUTION. GOD HELP EVERY SPINELESS CONGRESSMAN, SENATOR, JUDGE, SUPREME JUDGE, ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO REPEATEDLY AVOIDED OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THEM. IF THE REVOLUTION SUCCEEDS, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE OFFICIALS WHO BETRAYED PUBLIC TRUST, WILL BE INVESTIGATED, INDICTED, TRIED FOR BREACH OF FIDUCIARY DUTY, VIOLATION OF THEIR SWORN OATH, AND TREASON. THEY WILL BE PUNISHED ACCORDING TO LAW. NEVER AGAIN PERMITTED TO HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE AND POSSIBLY MADE TO PAY RESTITUTION.

    No one is above the law: That means judges, congress people, Senators, attorney generals, members of the electoral college, and any other elected or government office. YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. Can you continue to afford the luxury of your silence in the face of not if—but when this occurs. What is it going to take before you wake up to the fact this problem isn’t going away?

  69. citizenwells

    Snopes has lost any credibility that they had.

  70. I think Souter may be leaving SCOTUS for
    other reasons, how about he doesn’t want to
    have to deal with what is ahead. He knows
    as do all of the justices that Barry S. is ineligible
    according to the US Constitution. Souter wants
    out now before the roof falls in on all of them,
    IMHO. I’ll bet he’s not the only justice to
    “leave” soon.

  71. If I hear one more time reporters say “Obama is a scholar of the Constitution” I’ll scream. What a JOKE that is—how ’bout you READ IT, Barry, and then get the H*** out!

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