VP Pence letter to Congress January 6, 2021 is valid if “we count the votes of the Electoral College…in a manner consistent with our Constitution, laws”
“Until these unlawful practices are acknowledged and corrected, we cannot agree to support electors chosen based upon an inaccurate total vote count. The voters of Pennsylvania deserve integrity in the election process and equal protection under the law.”…PA Congress Members Dec 31, 2020
“Resolved, That the members of the Wisconsin State Assembly place the
redress to these and other election law violations and failed administrative procedures as its highest priority and shall take up legislation crafted to ensure civil officers follow the laws as written.”...Wisconsin Assembly Resolution 3
“These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.”…Thomas Paine
Many people are upset with VP Pence after the release of his letter dated January.
He is being called a traitor and other names.
That is premature.
If he does what he states in the letter, he will fulfill his constitutional duty.
Following the will of the American people as manifested by the actions of the state legislatures which have plenary power.
What this means is that he does not accept the will of corrupt governors, secretaries of state and members of the judiciary.
The state “certifications” of December 14 are not sacred, cast into stone.
Many legislatures, acting on citizen demands for honesty in elections, have examined their results and have stated in legal documents that their certified results are invalid.
These must not be counted per the US Constitution.
Surely VP Pence understands this.
If not, he should be handcuffed and arrested for treason.
Increasingly it has been discovered that foreign nations were meddling in our elections.
To count invalid votes would aid and abet a foreign country.
Also, some of these states, such as Wisconsin, which has a legislative resolution, are in the midst of addressing their errors.
I agree that Pence does not have arbitrary power to disregard elector votes.
He also must not ignore constitutionally invalid ones.
Innocent til proven guilty.
“Those circumstances of departure from the letter of the law include, but are not limited to, the following:
1. Clerks provided absentee ballots to electors without applications, as
required by Wis. Stat. § 6.86.
2. Clerks and deputy clerks authorized by the municipal clerk failed to write
on the official ballot, in the space for official endorsement, the clerk’s initials and
official title, as required by Wis. Stat. § 6.87 (1).
3. Clerks issued absentee ballots to electors who were required to enclose a copy
of proof of identification or an authorized substitute document, but who failed to do so under Wis. Stat. § 6.87 (1).
4. Clerks failed to enter initials on ballot envelopes indicating whether the
elector is exempt from providing proof of identification, as required by Wis. Stat. § 6.87 (2).
5. Clerks in Milwaukee and Dane Counties declared electors in their counties
to be “indefinitely confined” under Wis. Stat. § 6.86 (2), causing chaos and confusion, and failed to keep current the mailing list established under that subsection; more than 215,000 electors thus avoided identification requirements and safeguards that the legislature has established.
6. Clerks and the boards of canvassers permitted absentee ballots returned
without the required witness address under Wis. Stat. § 6.87 (2) to be counted in
contravention of Wis. Stat. § 6.87 (6d).
7. Clerks who received absentee ballots with improperly completed certificates
or no certificates filled in missing information in contravention of Wis. Stat. § 6.87 (9).
8. The Wisconsin Elections Commission, in contravention of Wis. Stat. § 6.875,
barred special voting deputies from entering qualified nursing homes and assisted living facilities, instead mailing ballots to residents directly, thereby avoiding safeguards the legislature put in place to protect our most vulnerable citizens and loved ones.
9. The clerk of the City of Madison ignored Wis. Stat. § 6.855 and created an
event named “Democracy in the Park” and, of her own accord, designated alternate sites where absentee ballots could be collected; these ballots were counted in contravention of Wis. Stat. § 6.87 (6);”
Wisconsin Resolution 3
Last night we watched election data flow real-time from Georgia to Islamabad and China. They take a blank ballot, check live voter rolls overseas, pick one to attribute the vote to, and accept it.
They are resuming the elector count/debates at 8:00 PM tonight. The Capitol building has been cleared.
Let’s see who’s for us, and who’s against us.
Let me tell ya a little something. Listen, take notice, or not.
When G had his brain surgery, I saw what it did and knew it would be a very few years before the inevitable. It took 3 years.
When G had electrical cardioversion in September, I knew it would only be months before the inevitable. It took 3 months.
It’s called facing reality.
I do believe this is the death of America. I weep. I am 70 and just as I wanted longer with G, I sure am not ready to give up my country.
Folks, in 6 months to a year, you will not recognize our America.
………please accept my condolences. I have been through such a loss myself. Human bonding IS WHAT IT IS, and the residual pain in your soul, and heart takes a very long time to go away. Sometimes it NEVER goes away. From time to time you will remember how things used to be, and the pain returns. I sympathize with you. Prayer helps some. In my case it has never stopped. Perhaps that is one reason why I am so heavily involved with my online diversion. I spend many hours each day visiting many different websites. I HAVE LEARNED QUITE A LOT IN THE PROCESS. Find a diversion when you are up to it. It HELPS CONSIDERABLY.
I am 88 years of age and have come to believe that whatever is going to happen in the future WILL INDEED HAPPEN regardless of what anyone believes, says, or does. There is always a 50-50 chance that your future will be filled with joy. Our future is mostly what we make it.
………beginning to look as though it is going to be the early AM hours before the joint session is over.!!!!
1000 years of darkness approaches. Enemies within, and outside of the United States have succeeded in the destruction of the Republic. The Constitution can only serve when legal voting happens in a valid Republic. The Constitution can only serve a moral and just people. We now have neither and Constitution or a Republic, and the rest of the world will now feel the darkness.
The first victim of the Civil War was an unarmed woman 4 tour veteran who was shot outside of a window in the capital building. There will be many more, as the fist tightens its grip on control of the populace, the people will scatter into groups and states. No one can stop what comes next. Oldsalt, you are right about that, and we have to find our own joy and places. For Americans who have supported and helped the foreign interference in the election, they swim in the happiness of the new power. It is a hollow victory, one they will see did not serve them, their families, or their nation. They will awake someday to realize that the treason they committed damned the entire world and planet, not saved it.
For the first time I believe the United States should eliminate all of it’s nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction. We are not longer a Republic, and we no longer have a government by the people, armed with Nuclear Weapons, we represent a risk to the entire world. We should immediately bring all of our troops home, from every country, because we don’t have the moral authority to confront other dictators and nations of aggression. The world should stand on it’s own. I believe this now. No one should die on foreign soil for this government.
I knew, when no one would ask about Barack Obama’s past, that the end was near. 12 years later it has arrived, and their is no joy in predicting this future. Good luck to all in the new world.
Well put Pete.