Boeing 737 Max software outsourced to cheap Indian software engineers, Indian software developer HCL Technologies Ltd., You get what you pay for

Boeing 737 Max software outsourced to cheap Indian software engineers, Indian software developer HCL Technologies Ltd., You get what you pay for

“Using cheap Indian software engineers for mission critical software, software that controls flight functions and affects human life is criminal as well as stupid.”…Citizen Wells

“The conclusion is simple: if a 200-man project has 25 managers who are the most competent and experienced programmers,
fire the 175 troops and put the managers back to programming.”…Frederick Brooks, author “The Mythical Man-Month: Essays on Software Engineering”

“We are being lied to on a scale unimaginable by George Orwell.”…Citizen Wells


You get what you pay for

Using cheap Indian software engineers for mission critical software, software that controls flight functions and affects human life is criminal as well as stupid.

I know this for a fact.

I am an expert on computer software, software development and debugging.

I also have experience evaluating and supervising programmers from countries such as India.

Right off the bat, regardless of competence, you must deal with language and cultural barriers.

From Bloomberg.

“Boeing’s 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers

It remains the mystery at the heart of Boeing Co.’s 737 Max crisis: how a company renowned for meticulous design made seemingly basic software mistakes leading to a pair of deadly crashes. Longtime Boeing engineers say the effort was complicated by a push to outsource work to lower-paid contractors.

The Max software — plagued by issues that could keep the planes grounded months longer after U.S. regulators this week revealed a new flaw — was developed at a time Boeing was laying off experienced engineers and pressing suppliers to cut costs.

Increasingly, the iconic American planemaker and its subcontractors have relied on temporary workers making as little as $9 an hour to develop and test software, often from countries lacking a deep background in aerospace — notably India.

In offices across from Seattle’s Boeing Field, recent college graduates employed by the Indian software developer HCL Technologies Ltd. occupied several rows of desks, said Mark Rabin, a former Boeing software engineer who worked in a flight-test group that supported the Max.

The coders from HCL were typically designing to specifications set by Boeing. Still, “it was controversial because it was far less efficient than Boeing engineers just writing the code,” Rabin said. Frequently, he recalled, “it took many rounds going back and forth because the code was not done correctly.”

Based on resumes posted on social media, HCL engineers helped develop and test the Max’s flight-display software, while employees from another Indian company, Cyient Ltd., handled software for flight-test equipment.”

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13 responses to “Boeing 737 Max software outsourced to cheap Indian software engineers, Indian software developer HCL Technologies Ltd., You get what you pay for

  1. citizenwells

    “Adjusting to the requirement for perfection is, I think, the most difficult part of learning to program.”
    ― Frederick P. Brooks Jr., The Mythical Man-Month: Essays on Software Engineering

  2. citizenwells

    “But outsourcing has long been a sore point for some Boeing engineers, who, in addition to fearing job losses say it has led to communications issues and mistakes.”

  3. CW………..
    ………..for a very long time Boeing has been outsourcing a whole lot of everything including key parts and flight components to a number of foreign manufacturers. The infamous 747 even had it’s wings built in China. With respect to the software problem which was predicated upon some malfunctioning critical instruments. UP TO A POINT the accidents which occurred happened largely because the pilots were unable to comprehend why the airplanes were behaving erratically. A senior pilot having over 20,000 flight hours logged, was one pilot who knew exactly how to deal with the problem. He was ONE OUT OF THOUSANDS. He figured it out primarily because he was still a pilot rather than an airborne computer operator. Most pilots who possess manual flight control experience from long ago have the intuitive benefit necessary to overcome errant flight behavior. Many flying computer operators do NOT have the necessary experience. The one person I am speaking of lifted off from Dallas last year. He was headed for LA. He was about 40 minutes into the flight when the 737 he was Captaining began doing strange things. He had the intelligence to shut down the flight computer system, took manual control, and landed the aircraft safely. This example says that pilots need to undergo extensive training in the new flight control systems and learn how to deal instantly, and accurately with problems when they occur. I have read that the captains of both aircraft had no idea how to deal with the errant behavior of their airplanes.
    In reality the problem was a TWO HEADED BEAST……..but neither pilot was able to comprehend what was going on. In the MILITARY SERVICES this is referred to as CASUALTY, AND/OR DAMAGE CONTROL.

  4. bob strauss

    The “Hammer” used for “Blackmail, and leverage”!

  5. citizenwells

    12h12 hours ago
    Ted Cruz calls for “legal action” against Portland mayor after clash between far-right, antifa protesters

  6. oldsailor87

    ……… was possible to smell the stinking A$$ES of the NOSE PICKING ANTIFA PUNKS in Portland, Oregon. None of them had the COURAGE to expose their faces. Like all YELLOW PIECES OF MANURE they HIDE BEHIND facial coverings. These STINKING LITTLE MORONS seem to be popping up nearly everywhere in our once PLACID country. These SCUMBAGS are KISSING COUSINS of the American NAZI PARTY. Most of them have three word vocabularies, and matching IQ levels.

  7. oldsailor87

    ………..pimple faced, nose picking, stinking a$$ed punks, hide behind masks and throw their idiotic concoctions at people they disagree with. This tells about their idiotic, CHILDISH demeanor.

  8. oldsailor87

    ………Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Rapinoe finally got what she asked for with respect to her demeanor relating to our National Anthem. Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Rapinoe is a transgender that will eventually pay for it’s sick, twisted, and perverted life style. That person will eventually stand before the creator.

  9. kamala ‘Hobama’ Harris is not only the descendant of a slave owner. And the slave owner she descended from also owned white slaves.

    Where are our reparations?

  10. Nasa has been adjusting data to show a warming trend. And they’ve been doing that for a long time. We have all known that. There is an unadjusted data base and then there is the new adjusted data base that shows the warming trend. Researchers have been able to show just how much of the warming trend has come from the adjustments. Of course the global warming hoaxers don’t like that.

    So guess what? The con men are now adjusting the ‘unadjusted data’.
    A researcher has recently discovered this by comparing data.

    The temp records listed as unadjusted are no longer real data.

  11. I’m getting the feeling that the media propagandists are writing articles about the dude named bradley manning, who likes to be called by a woman’s name, chelsea manning, just so they can us the term “her” when referring to him.

    I’ve come across dozens of articles about this dude in just the last several months and they are normally calling him ‘her’ by the second sentence.

    this is how nazi propogandists work. Just keep repeating it over and over.

  12. citizenwells

    Did you see the “Finding your roots” show that revealed that Michael Moore is descended
    from a white slave?

  13. cw,
    didn’t catch that one. not surprised.

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