Q4 2016 economy growth 1.9 percent, Trump was right “Obama is the first president in modern history not to have a single year of 3 percent growth”, Obamacare accounted for 58% of US growth in first quarter 2016

Q4 2016 economy growth 1.9 percent, Trump was right “Obama is the first president in modern history not to have a single year of 3 percent growth”, Obamacare accounted for 58% of US growth in first quarter 2016

“Nearly half of U.S. companies are reluctant to hire full-time employees because of the ACA. One in five firms indicates they are likely to hire fewer employees, and another one in 10 may lay off current employees in response to the law.

Other firms will shift toward part-time workers. More than 40 percent of CFOs say their companies will consider switching some jobs to less than 30 hours per week or targeting part-time workers for future employment.”…Duke University Fuqua School of Business December 11, 2013

“If you like your plan, you can keep it.”…Barack Obama

“millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.”…NBC News October 29, 2013

 

 

Donald Trump was right when he stated:

“Obama is the first president in modern history not to have a single year of 3 percent growth.”

From Zero Hedge February 28, 2017.

“US Economy Grew 1.9% In Q4, Unexpectedly Missing Expectations Despite Stronger Consumer Spending

Following a series of better than expected GDP-feeding prints, consensus had expected Q4 GDP to tick higher in the first revision released today, rising from 1.9% to 2.1%. However, that did not happen and instead, the revised print came in unchanged at 1.9%. Notable underlying revisions include: an upward revision in consumer spending, both in services and goods; a downward revision to business investment, mostly in intellectual property products and equipment; and a downward revision to state and local government spending, primarily in structures.”

“For the year 2016, real GDP increased 1.6% , compared with 2.6% in 2015. The increase in real GDP in 2016 reflected increases in consumer spending, residential investment, state and local government spending, exports, and federal government spending. These contributions were partly offset by declines in private inventory investment and business investment. Imports increased.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-28/us-economy-grew-19-q4-unexpectedly-missing-expectations-despite-stronger-consumer-sp

From Zero Hedge June 28, 2016.

“Obamacare Accounted For 58% Of US “Growth” In The First Quarter

Remember when the Supreme Court decided that Obamcare is legal but it’s a tax? Well, the nuances were irrelevant, but when it comes to the Bureau of Economic Analysis they could not have been greater: by effectively counting a tax as part of US economic growth, Obama, the Supreme Court and the US government’s beancounters assured themselves of a steady stream of “economic growth” for quarters to come, and sure enough, Q1 was no different.

As regular readers know, when it comes to the one constant source of US economic growth, nothing is more reliable than Healthcare, which is merely another name for how Obamacare figured in the bean-count reports. And, we are confident, it will come as no surprise that in Q1, when real GDP grew by $44 billion in real terms, or 1.1% annualized, from $16.471 trillion to $16.515 trillion, Healthcare was responsible for $26 billion (rising from $1,896 billion to $1,929 billion annualized) or a whopping 58.4% of the total.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-28/obamacare-accounted-58-us-growth-first-quarter

 

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69 responses to “Q4 2016 economy growth 1.9 percent, Trump was right “Obama is the first president in modern history not to have a single year of 3 percent growth”, Obamacare accounted for 58% of US growth in first quarter 2016

  1. “Recall that in September, the Household Survey revealed that the number of part-time workers soared by 430,000 as full-time workers actually declined by 5,000. The trend continued in October, when another 103,000 full-time jobs were lost, which was offset by a 90,000 increase in part-time jobs. In other words, the transition to a part-time worker society appears to have resumed after a hiatus.”

    “But perhaps even more troubling than the breakdown in September job quality, was another seldom-touted series: the number of Multiple jobholders, or people who are forced to hold more than one job due to insufficient wages or for other reasons. It was here that the red flashing light came on because when looked on an actual, unadjusted basis, the number of multiple jobholders rose to 8.050 million, the highest number this century.”

    https://citizenwells.com/2016/11/04/october-2016-labor-dept-data-vindicates-trump-on-illegal-immigration-white-employment-decimated-big-hispanic-gains-obama-obamacare-legacy-fewer-whites-employed-fewer-full-time-jobs-multiple-job/

  2. What is the answer?? Is it the worker?? Is it corporate slavery/greed?
    I read an article about a man in Ohio that worked for a company for 13 years making cables for vehicles(Ford, I think??) and the company moved to Mexico.
    He made $30 an hour and who knows what in compensation for sick/personal days, paid holidays, overtime, etc…..and without any of those, his annual salary?? $62,000.
    The lady in Mexico rode a bus for an hour to that company every day. She got no freebies like those given in Ohio and made $1 an hour; her annual salary??? $2,080.
    THERE IS A HUGE DISCONNECT.
    Until this is solved- until corporations give- until American workers give- America will never be ‘made great again.’

  3. JJ………..
    …………which tells one of the reasons why vehicles built in America are among the highest cost cars in the world to buy. When you buy a new Ford product you also are paying an extra $2000.00 which pays the healthcare costs of the retired workers…….and how do I know that?……….a relative by marriage retired from FORD at Louisville……..he loved to blabber about how much money FORD paid him to sit on his duff for 26 years. He had a 3800 square foot home built in Spencer County, Ky……which allegedly cost $ 148,000.00 to build. The house sets on 5.5 acres which he thought was a bargain at $40,000.00. This all happened 10 years ago………supposedly the house is now worth over $400,000.00. He recently died so it is now up to his wife to get the alleged market value for the home and outbuildings. Spencer County was, and possibly still is one of the fastest growing counties in Kentucky……….but this sort of growth brings higher real estate taxes, and a host of related costs. So I hope she is able to sell the property at a fair price…………big houses still are not moving well at the marketplace. Since she is by herself she could find a low maintenance home…….in the order of 1200-1500 sq.ft………but that is her business!.

  4. CW……….
    ……..in response to the Wendy’s acquisition of lots of robots, I would have to say that robots don’t require vacations, or personal days, and with respect to maintenance, only need an occasional tweaking. After they are paid for the return on the investment begins, and time will tell if Wendy’s customers are being better served. After the robots are paid for they should see a dramatic drop in their operating costs…….particularly if each robot eliminates at least two jobs.
    When, or if companies choose to return to America you can also look for a substantial price increase in their products………particularly if they end up with a labor union to deal with. You cannot keep raising the market price of your products without effecting your market position. This is something that organized labor DOESN’T GET! Until the MORE,MORE,MORE mentality diminishes it is likely that nothing will change, and even reduced corporate taxes, will not be incentive enough for their return. You are absolutely right JJ when you compare $1.00 per hour South of the border to $30.00 per hr, for the same exact job.
    Vehicle assembly is largely done by people who don’t have craft skills, such as engine, and transmission building machinists. These are people who fall into the unskilled domain. You do not need a high level of skill to shove a color coded bolt into a color coded hole,and put a color coded nut on it and tighten it with a color coded air operated impact wrench. So why are they paid so much…….ORGANISED LABOR! ……..which is slowly choking America.

  5. “From comments and emails in 2008 by a Chicago restaurant owner.”

    “Email May 6, 2008.

    “And as I told you tonight, the only other politician mentioned to me as being on the down low by gay guys from the Chicago area, none other than Denny Hastert… who apparently stepped down from a highly powerful US Senate career after being threatened with being outed for gay activities.”

    So, there we have it.

    Dennis Hastert, who is being investigated for perjury and banking activities tied to alleged gay sex extortion, according to the Rezko trial testimony, was going to help replace Patrick Fitzgerald.

    Why and How?

    From the Chicago Tribune April 29, 2008.

    “Witness says Hastert linked to alleged plot
    House speaker would have picked Fitzgerald’s replacement, defendant’s ex-associate claims”

    “The name of former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert was added Monday to the roster of political heavyweights linked by witnesses to an alleged plan to dump Chicago’s top federal prosecutor and kill a criminal investigation into a top fundraiser for Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

    A witness at the corruption trial of Blagojevich insider Antoin “Tony” Rezko testified that Rezko told him in February 2005 about an effort under way to fire U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald and replace him with someone more compliant to be hand-picked by Hastert, then the top Republican in the House.

    Rezko said the Hastert designee would then “order the prosecutor to stop the investigation,” recalled Elie Maloof, a former Rezko business associate who also testified that Rezko had told him to keep Rezko’s name to himself if he were questioned by authorities because it could damage Blagojevich.””

    https://citizenwells.com/2015/06/09/can-obama-keep-blagojevich-and-hastert-from-talking-sidley-austin-coming-to-their-aid-hastert-named-in-rezko-trial-witness-testified-rezko-stated-that-patrick-fitzgerald-would-be-fired-and-replac/

  6. CW………..
    ……..here is something to think about………It is being said that Janet Yellen is planning to raise interest rates in March. If she does this it is goodbye for the 11% market gains since President Trump took office. If she can collapse the markets for the liberals (her being one of them) they will then be able to make the NITWIT public believe that it was all the result of Trump’s failed policies. She is probably going to stab President Trump in the back. I pray that he is already aware of the potential danger from the TWISTED BASTARDS OF THE LUNATIC LEFT.

  7. AND………
    ……….the stupid look on Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.Pocahontas’s face tonight is beyond laughable. The lunatic looking Mzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Poosi is beyond laughable.

  8. AND CHUCKY BABY……..
    ………..LOOKED LIKE THE BIGGEST LAUGH OF ALL. The speech is over,but the LIBERALS will not forget it…..ever.

  9. AND THE SPPECH IS OVER………
    ………AND LIBERALS WILL NEVER FORGET IT! NOW EX GOVERNOR BESHEAR IS DELIVERING HIS RABID RAFT OF BS.

  10. CW………..
    ………..I don’t know if you watched the speech or not, but it was very presidential. Now if the twisted liberal female Congresspersons can set their HISSY FIT BS aside for a little while, and do what they were elected by their constituents TO DO, maybe we can once again have a Congress of the People, by the people, and for the people. These people need to start earning their exorbitant salaries for a change.

  11. Our president did a fine job tonight. His reviews are positive even from his critics. They disagree with his points but they admit it was his finest night.
    For those of us who agree with his principles and goals we will continue to pray for his safety, wisdom and leadership.
    God bless America and God bless President Trump.

  12. oldsailor84

    Hrmfc…………….
    ……..10-4 great speech!

  13. citizenwells

    I watch very few speeches but I did watch this one.
    It was a great speech.

  14. oldsailor84

    NOW EX GOVERNOR BESHEAR IS DELIVERING HIS RABID RAFT OF BS.
    It took me 10 seconds to switch channels. How could they let this AH speak?

  15. CW………..
    ………..President Trump has built the fire, now lets see if Congress sends in the FIRE DEPARTMENT. In addition he punctuated his speech with the words “WE ARE ALL a product of the SAME CREATOR………… my exact same belief. I was praying that he would at some point say to Congress, and to Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Pelosi (who was present) “at least we will know what is in the bill when we pass it”. Such words would have resonated through the LIBERAL LEFT who made their disdain clear last night.
    ………and soon if president Trump is successful the STINKING A$$ED GOATHERDERS will find themselves up against a WORLD CLASS FIGHTING FORCE………..after which ALLAH will have thousands of new bearded, and halfwitted TENNANTS. Allah will need lots of VIRGIN inflatable love goats for door prizes.

  16. hapnHal………
    ……….and soon after President Trump’s speech was concluded we had a very clear demonstration of exactly what is wrong with the minds of the LIBERAL LEFT, and demonstrated by ex Kentucky governor Beshear. He is obviously a member of the LIBERAL GOON SQUAD.

  17. bob strauss

    Wikileaks Reveal: Real Reason Why Obamacare Survived Supreme Court

    By Phoenix Brooks

    Wikileaks has revealed hacked emails from John Podesta’s email account that suggest that political pressure was critical in getting Obamacare past the highest court in the land.

    When Obamacare was introduced into the Supreme Court, it was doomed to fail because it was obviously unconstitutional.

    The Federal Government could penalize its citizens to force them to buy a product.

    However, because the Obama administration had a reputation for corruption, deception, and dirty tricks, there was that little nagging voice in people’s head that was insisting something was wrong, and that somehow the Affordable Care Act was going to survive.

    After all, one of the Justices on the Supreme Court was Elena Kagan, an Obama appointee with no experience as a judge, and someone who sent emails rooting for the legislation to pass.

    So when the verdict came down 5-4 in favor of Obamacare, it was only a partial surprise.

    Chief Justice John Roberts justified the decision by essentially rewriting the bill from the bench and calling the Individual Mandate a tax rather than a penalty.

    He then explained, using the majority’s opinion, that the Supreme Court was trusting the elected officials who passed the laws as being wiser and more knowledgeable, and that they must know what they are doing because the people elected them.

    If Congress was full of people that are dim enough to think that an island will tip over if troops are sent in, Neil Armstrong landed on Mars, or that the Declaration of Independence is racist, then the people have the power to throw them out of office.

    He wrote:

    “Members of this Court are vested with the authority to interpret the law; we possess neither the expertise nor the prerogative to make policy judgments.

    Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation’s elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.”

    Keep in mind that the elected officials he is referring to, including Barack Obama, have admitted that none of them had actually read the bill in question before passing it.

    Former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi even said that Congress was going to have to pass Obamacare in order for the American people to know what was in it.

    After the decision came out, the jokes began that Justice Roberts was either bribed or threatened into saying Obamacare was constitutional, when it clearly was not.

    The jokes ranged from, “Breaking news: DNC releases Chief Justice Roberts’ family,” to “Breaking news: Chief Justice Roberts announces plans to buy an island in the Bahamas.”

    While these were merely attempts at humor, and not to be taken seriously, newly released emails from the Podesta files reveal that there may be more truth there than at first thought.

    Neera Tanden, the president of the Center for American Progress, created an email thread with top Clinton campaign officials in which she admitted that political threats were critical in the 2012 passage of Obamacare through the Supreme Court.

    “As Jennifer will remember, it was pretty critical that the President threw the gauntlet down last time on the Court, warning them in the first case that it would politicize the role of the Court for them to rule against the ACA.
    As a close reader of the case, I honestly believe that was vital to scaring Roberts off.”

    The length and depths that the Progressive Left is willing to go through to pass their radicalized agenda is simply staggering.

    H/T The Federalist Papers

    http://uschronicle.com/nocb-wikileaks-reveal-real-reason-why-obamacare-survived-supreme-court/#sm22_alm_page3_2drepeat

  18. oldsailor84

    Bob Strauss…………
    …………..and as I have said many times the judicial was totally corrupted………and STILL IS. Further I believe that Scalia was MURDERED in an attempt to take out enough of a conservative as to allow the PLANT of another POS LIBERAL in the SCOTUS, which would weight the SCOTUS to the LIBERAL LEFT, and protect the CRIMINAL CABAL.That is why the founders put checks ,and balances in place. Again I refer people to the words of Abe Lincoln………….NOT TO OVERTHROW OUR GOVERNMENT, BUT TO OVERTHROW THOSE WHO PERVERT IT”, but apparently nobody in the elected mass had the decency to apply LINCOLNS WORDS……..BIG MONEY,BIG GOVERNMENT, AND BIG SALARIES……….TO DO NOTHING!

  19. oldsailor84

    WATCH OUT………….
    ………..if you have an investment portfolio that isn’t hedged………..Janet Yellen might be getting ready to collapse the market with a interest rate increase. A substantial rate increase could send the market into a prolonged decline.This is something which we would expect from the now substantially diminished LIBERAL DEMOCRAT CRIMINALS who hide behind their high positions in our government. I expect this to happen in an attempt to destroy President Trump.

  20. Oh Mama Mia……Breaking
    Sessions met with the Russians TWICE !!
    But DON’T say anything about Hillary’s dealings with the Ruskies
    —————————————————————————————
    Sessions met with Russian envoy twice last year, encounters he later did not disclose

    Then-Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) spoke twice last year with Russia’s ambassador to the United States, Justice Department officials said, encounters he did not disclose when asked about possible contacts between members of President Trump’s campaign and representatives of Moscow during Sessions’s confirmation hearing to become attorney general.

    One of the meetings was a private conversation between Sessions and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak that took place in September in the senator’s office, at the height of what U.S. intelligence officials say was a Russian cyber campaign to upend the U.S. presidential race.

    The previously undisclosed discussions could fuel new congressional calls for the appointment of a special counsel to investigate Russia’s alleged role in the 2016 presidential election. As attorney general, Sessions oversees the Justice Department and the FBI, which have been leading investigations into Russian meddling and any links to Trump’s associates. He has so far resisted calls to recuse himself.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-spoke-twice-with-russian-ambassador-during-trumps-presidential-campaign-justice-officials-say/2017/03/01/77205eda-feac-11e6-99b4-9e613afeb09f_story.html?utm_term=.3d8a22f4637b

  21. oldsailor84

    hapnHal……….
    ………….well said, and an excellent read. Your thoughts are pretty much the same as my own. I hasten to add, that Sessions had, and still has the Constitutional right to talk to anyone on this earth he chooses to talk to. However doing so might carry with it an inference of impropriety upon which people like Al Stinken try to build the illusion of wrongdoing by Jeff Sessions.
    This could lead to conflict of interest recusal should he ever be called upon to prosecute anything perpetrated by the Russian community. Remember the AIRPORT CONVERSATION OF SLICK WILLY with the last AG? My guess is that his words to her was really a masked threat to the survival of her grandchildren……….but she GOT THE MESSAGE IT CARRIED! This bothers me big time, and right or wrong, this could impede any future investigative efforts by Sessions.

  22. oldsailor84

    hapnHal……..
    ………..personally I would loved to have seen either Trey Gowdy, or Guilliani appointed as USAG.

  23. oldsailor84

    AND TODAY………
    ……….we are still again hearing the incessant, and twisted raving of the LIBERAL LEFT……….this time they rant President Trump used the soldier’s widow as a political ploy. Where does the twisted, sick logic of the LIBERALS end? President Trump chose to HONOR her during his speech to Congress. Was it the right thing to do this early in her grief……it was really up to her .If she chose to be there, then she said in effect she was ready. This may have actually been a blessing in disguise inasmuch that it shows that nearly all people are feeling her pain. For her it will continue for quite some time. I believe that when all in Congress stood up and clapped their hands it may well have helped her more than anyone realizes. Many of us know the intense pain of losing a loved one……..myself included. For some of us it will never subside……..our bond was too strong, and involves our very souls. For the DEMOCRATS to accuse President Trump of USING her as a political ploy clearly shows the level they will stoop to show their hatred of the POTUS. Then the obese crumb from Hollywood runs his sick, perverted mouth spewing his diseased saliva upon innocent people. Hopefully somebody will shove a rifle into his hands and order him to defend his country………..at which point you will see the blabbering halfwit turn into what he really is……. a fat YELLOW COWARD screaming for his mommy to save him.

  24. Domenico Frate

    FAKE news or FAKE VIEWS …..buyer beware !

  25. oldsailor84

    AND NOW………
    ………Jeff Sessions has recused himself from any investigation into the alleged Russian interference in our election which is what needs to be done. The whole notion of Russian interference in our election is a TOTAL LIE made up by the LIBERAL BASTARDS, in the hope that somehow the public will buy their BULLSHI#, and then the American people will DEMAND that Trump himself be impeached. This is TOTAL INSANITY from within the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. They think that if they can torpedo Sessions the way will be clear to torpedo President Trump. In the end they will have spent a billion dollars to turn their twisted lie into a bigger LIE. This is what the DEMOCRATS DO BEST………which we have seen plenty of coming from ALL of them including Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Clinton. The DEMOCRATIC a$$holes are seeing their world collapse around them ,and are DESPARATE to head off complete annihilation of their SOOOOOOOO WONDERRRRRRRRRFUL PARTY………….OF PATHOLOGICAL LIARS. Anybody who believes their lies has to himself, or herself be mentally impaired. The childish snotnoses who adhere to the bullshi#, and support it are also at risk politically. The Russian ambassador visited Session’s office in the capacity of official business while Sessions was a member of the Armed Forces committee. Sessions did NOTHING WRONG. Harriet Reid cautioned DEMOCRATS to be very careful, because it could turn into a their OWN Benghazzi, and they would OWN it.

  26. Old Sailor, that’s a good explanation above on Jeff Sessions. It’s too hard to follow everything the media throws at us. I like when someone can explain things in a sentence or a paragraph or two. My local media are so rotten regarding Trump that I turn them off. Everything they say about him is mean, nasty, negative and rotten. I watched a 20 minute news clip from WAVY in Virginia Beach area today. Trump visited the shipyard in Newport News and they (the 2 news anchors) were so excited and happy to have the new president visit Hampton roads. I doubt our local news stations would be so kind. I think they’re all Soros paid in some way. I really do. Also did you see the story about Valerie Jarrett moving into obamas house? How absolutely creepy is that!

  27. oldsailor84

    iGeorge…………
    …………Hampton Roads is where I went aboard my first ship assignment from boot camp, she was tied up at Little Creek in Feb 1952. This was USS Belle Grove LSD 2. ( finally scrapped in 1973). I pulled a few liberties in Virginia Beach………lotta fun! I later transferred to another ship to get away from the RECIPROCATING STEAM UNAFLOW ENGINES………definitely was not my cup of tea.(HIGH MAINTENANCE.
    I have long suspicioned that she has become his surrogate mother……and her directives originated from NANNY GOAT HEAVEN.(IRAN).

  28. oldsailor84
    What’s wrong with this picture?

    Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak Appeared As Obama White House Visitor At Least 22 Times

    Sergey Kislyak appeared in the White House visitor logs dozens of times when Barack Obama was in office. The visitor logs, which Obama made public in 2009 in a push for transparency, show that the long-time Russian ambassador to the United States visited the White House at least 22 times between 2009 and 2016. Kislyak appeared in the logs as recently as September 2016 when he had a meeting scheduled with one of Obama’s senior advisers, John Holdren, in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building. The other visitors listed at the meeting are Marina W. Gross

  29. and………….

    The only claim against Sessions is that Sessions, while Senator, talked to the Russian ambassador a whopping 2 times in 2016. That’s called doing his job. Senator Franken, during the Attorney General confirmation proceedings, talked about “ties to Russia” and asked if Senator Session had discussed the Trump campaign “with Russian government officials.” Sessions answered he had not. Sessions has no “ties with Russia” and there is no evidence he discussed the Trump campaign with any Russian official. The attempt to conflate Sessions doing his job as a Senator — meeting with ambassadors — as meaning he must have talked about campaign tactics or the campaign at all is patently ludicrous.

    Here is the key exchange: Franken asked about “a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.” Sessions answered: “I’m not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with Russians, and I’m unable to comment on it.” Anyone reading the actual exchange can see Sessions was referring to no communications “as a surrogate” just as the question’s very long pre-amble specifically referenced the focus of the question to that subject matter. Nothing about Sessions’ answer was false, nor could it be construed to be materially false or willfully false, or even false at all.

  30. HapnHal……….
    ……….and you are squarely on the money, but the INSANITY DEEPENS SUBSTANTIALLY since yesterday. Now Mike Pence is being accused of conducting state business over a personal email system. The liberal HALFWITS are soon going to get violent. Mike Pence HAD, and still HAS the right to conduct any Indiana State related business on a PRIVATE EMAIL SYSTEM………..just so long as it carries no federal classification.
    If you have ever looked at a road kill with thousands of maggots writhing, and squirming to get a bite of the decaying flesh compares with with the now rabid foaming at the mouth lunacy which is now rampant throughout the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. These people are in dire need of psychiatric help. It has turned into an epidemic of irrational hysteria.

  31. hapnHal………
    …………the liberal bastards are trying very hard to torpedo Jeff Sessions. They seem to think that if they can destroy him they will then have a clear ,and easy shot at impeaching President Trump. Make no mistake they are determined , and will not hesitate to try anything they think will work against both Trump, and Pence. The simple fact that they have now put focus on Pence as well, shows that they have expanded their insanity. From SHOE-MER to POOSI, the irrational hysteria has traveled, like an airborne disease. Anyone with even a pea sized brain can easily see the insane expressions on the faces of these people as they rave, and rant. You only need to understand a little about body language. They really have no idea that they transmit virtually all that they are thinking. YOU ONLY NEED TO LOOK CLOSELY AT THEIR FACIAL EXPRESSIONS.

  32. ………..the liberal democrats have turned into INSECTS, and as America watches they scramble in all directions looking for something……as do insects. They climb one plant walk all over it …searching ,and searching, then they crawl up another plant, and do the same thing again. They do this throughout their entire lifespan. THIS COULD BE REFERRED TO AS INSECT LEVEL MENTALITY.

  33. oldsailor84

    hapnHal………
    …………I may have insulted the intelligence of the INSECT community………..after all they behave as they do for a GOD given reason. I apologise to the true insects.

  34. oldsailor84

    NOW………
    ………..THE LIBERAL AGs of about 15 states are going to sue the POTUS, because of his temporary travel ban. They are all FOAMING AT THE MOUTH with their RABID IRRATIONALITY.
    Now is the time for President Trump to allow the present ACA go completely bankrupt. when the people begin to scream about the cost of their healthcare all he has to do is point to CHUCKY baby, and MZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Poosi. because the DEMOCRATS STILL OWN ACA. TIME WILL COME AROUND TO tRUMPS SIDE………..BUT AFTER THE FACT WHEN SENSIBILITY RETURNS.

  35. oldsailor84

    CW will you delete my 6:50 PM comment in it’s entirety……
    I had it totally incorrect.

  36. oldsailor84

    FOR SOETORO TO TAKE A CHANCE………….
    ……….he is out on a dangerous limb………his citizenship has never been proven. The BC that was posted on the White House web site has been PROVEN LEGALLY INVALID by a duly elected law enforcement officer, and his staff. There is now PROBABLE CAUSE, that a criminal act was perpetrated by the White House. It is now time for President Trump to rescind Soetoro’s XO that sealed his so called personal papers, and make the contents EVIDENCE OF ELECTION FRAUD. The contents should be published nationally in every newspaper willing to do so. I have a strong feeling that there are no meaningful documents which will prove his US CITIZENSHIP. I personally believe that Barry Soetoro is NOT A US CITIZEN AT ALL.The liberals have made it clear they want a war……so it is time to drop the sort of bomb on them which will put a huge number of them either in prison for life, or worse. Time to send out the digger dogs……. lets see what they dig up! When the dust settles I think there will be a lot of SOETORO supporters in prison along with Lil Barry and Michael. It is time to tell him to keep his nose out of US government function. Hopefully he will think about this before he tries to do something BIG TIME. I don’t think President Trump will sit idly by, and let Soetoro politically do him in.

  37. bob strauss

    This article is great at pointing out usurper Obama’s dream of creating a Caliphate in the Levant, and defeating Israel, only thing is, like everything else he tried, he failed, the democrat party failed, and are now nothing more than a batch of whiners, in the wake of the usurper’s failures.

    Trump needs to prosecute these traitors!

    *************************

    ISIS, Not ISIL: What’s in a Name?

    “All of this makes the Obama Administration’s preference for the term “ISIL” all the more disturbing. In contrast with the Trump Administration’s decision to officially refer to ISIS, the Obama Administration’s official policy referred to the Islamic State as ISIL. Why?

    The very term “ISIL,” with its intentional connection to the Levant as the land from which this murderous group would rule the Middle East, is aspirational. It reflects the ambitions of ISIS and its leader, al-Baghdadi. It elevates the group’s territorial conquests. This provokes two questions: (1) Why would then-President Obama, or anyone else for that matter, want to acknowledge the claims of a group of genocidal jihadists and use the name that this hateful group prefers? And 2) Why would anyone use a name that constitutes an encouragement for this bloody group which reifies their objective of conquering all of the Middle East, if not the world?”

    https://aclj.org/national-security/isis-not-isil-whats-in-a-name?sf53013725=1

  38. Hi Old Sailor…My connections to Hampton Roads and the Navy are not much really. My best friend married a man who enlisted in the navy back in 1975/1976ish. Anyway, in December of 1977 she had a baby 2 or 3 days after her husband set sail for the Mediterranean. In June of 1978 (Husband still at sea), I in my car, along with mother in law @ cousin drove a car for them down to Norfolk so the family could have transportation when he came back. A really nice little trip. A month later I visited again. They (friend & husband) took me aboard his ship which I believe was the USS Lawrence, (does that sound right?) where he worked. I just remember how small and tight the ladders and holes were to get from one floor to another. I was a skinny thing back then too! On that trip, my friend try to fix me up with another sailor but it was not meant to be. He wrote many letters to me,(I still have them) but I had another boyfriend at the time. I think he was lonely, that’s why he wrote to me. Anyway, I’m still friends with my friend, her x sailor husband now deceased, and me with my husband made many trips to Virginia Beach since 2001(vacations). We did go on a tour of the navy shipyards once while on vacation. I guess at one point I could have married the sailor who wrote to me but it wasn’t meant to be. Oh well.

  39. Please help this video go viral…Connecting the dots…
    Maxine Waters: ‘Obama Has Put In Place’ Secret Database With ‘Everything On Everyone’…https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49a_1360284775
    Michigan-Patriot

  40. ‘Obama Has Put In Place’ Secret Database With ‘Everything On Everyone’

    uh, that’s not news…Soros has has that for years.

  41. iGeorge…………
    …………most folks who entered the military services in the 1950s done so because there was a possibility of being drafted anyway……….so they wanted to have some control over what branch they entered. As a youngster in grade school I have always had a penchant for the sea. I used to do art scenes of four mast barkentines deep at sea with a few degrees of tack. I won a number of art events up through the 8th grade. When I reached 17and a half I joined our local Indiana National Guard, and during the year and a half of my involvement I learned what being in the infantry requires……….but my penchant for the sea was still alive and I chose to enter the Navy when I turned 19. The National Guard military training helped me immensely throughout my enlistment.
    The USS Lawrence name does not ring a bell. What was the function of the ship? I need its hull designation. I served aboard the USS Ruchamkin APD 89. The function designator is APD which translates to HIGH SPEED ATTACK PERSONELL. It was a converted WW2 destroyer escort which was originally designed for attacking Hitler’s subs in the North Atlantic. At the close of WW2 the Navy had row after row of these little warriors in moth balls…….all fairly new ships. Being only 1850 tons they were perfect for getting into shallow water, and getting covert operations personell ashore quickly and quietly. We often operated with UDT personell. As you might know the UDT later became the breeding stock from which the present day SEALS evolved. Those guys were some pretty hairy individuals………they had to be! We used to kid them about being “kissin cousins to APES” they seemed to enjoy our joking. They in turn used to ask us if we could do 40 push ups consecutively. They had us on that one. har har. This is the sort of good natured comradery which helps in bonding into a BAND OF BROTHERS. For people in combat COHESION is an important aspect of military life……….without it the effectiveness of a soldier, or sailor is substantially diminished. I would be happy to tell you more if you wish…….because there is a lot more regarding the military services.

  42. CW……..
    I would appreciate it if you would send my email address to iGeorge. Thanx.

  43. AND NOW………
    ……….we have learned that the Trump Tower was phone tapped ………probably without court order. If this is determined to be the case, and if it was ordered by Soetoro he, and all who participated are potentially facing IMPRISONMENT, and should face severe prosecution if this is proven to have occurred. This would also be the time to go into his ineligibility, and probable not a US citizen either. Cumulatively this could mushroom into one hell of a nuclear explosion. President Trump COULD even NOW order the ARREST OF Soetoro should he so choose if there is PROBABLE CAUSE. As POTUS he has that power. Soetoro may have finally transgressed the line in the sand so to speak……..if he DID he will most likely be INDICTED by a Congressional Grand Jury……just as was SLICK WILLY……but I have a feeling that without Ted Kennedy, and Mr. Leahe to save his a$$ he will go to prison.

  44. JJ the Waters video is only important in the context of today’s news…Even though it is an old video I doubt Waters was ever questioned on just exactly what the Dems and Obama are doing to subvert conservative news and/or policy. As some have said the “Deep State” may be more substantial than the public at large understands and the Water’s video needs to be front page news for several days or news cycles…mainly because directly or indirectly they are likely connected to the wire tapping…//M-P

  45. oldsailor84

    iGeorge………
    ……….you might also communicate with oldsoldier80 for his views about military life. He was a commissioned Infantry officer.

  46. CW………………..
    36,635 zombies removed from voter rolls in West Virginia

    Republican Mac Warner has been West Virginia’s secretary of state for only 45 days, and already he has suppressed the votes of up to 36,635 dead people — in an act of zombiephobia that defies the logic and reason. Where in the state constitution does it say that your right to vote Democratic ends when you die? Doesn’t the ADA cover the “living challenged”? Well, it should. [Snip] What next? Voter photo ID to stop you from voting 11 times? If this keeps up, Democrats may never be able to steal another election in the Mountain State.

  47. oldsailor84

    JJ………
    ……….if there is illegal wire tapping going on it would require a ROGUE judge to order such a wiretap especially without demonstrable probable cause.
    For Maxine Waters to make an assertion that Soetoro has been wire tapping people for a long time, and has lots of dirt on a lot of people tells me that she must be either a halfwit, or INSANE, or both. If a sitting Federal judge did this without having demonstrable probable cause then he too should face criminal prosecution, and subsequent removal from the bench.

  48. oldsailor84

    AND IF……….
    ………..the liberals are able to eventually get rid of Sessions, and if I was in President Trump’s shoes I would do everything in my power to bring justice to the bastards who perpetrated the act against the AG, by seeing to it that a special prosecutor like Rudy Guilliani was appointed and had as many people in his staff as necessary to do the job.. Ask the Italian Mafia what happened when he finally got on their crap. They ended up back in Sicily where they came from.

  49. oldsailor84

    AND IF……..
    ………Maxine Waters statement is accurate, then for Soetoro to be in possession of information other than PUBLIC information without the approval of those it concerns is a crime as well. Private information is called PRIVILEGED INFORMATION. If he obtained it through illegal random wiretaps then he can be prosecuted , heavily fined, and rewarded with a lengthy slammer vacation. Tricky Dickey learned that the hard way!

  50. Oldsailor84,
    Here are some additional comments relative to Trump’s latest tweet.
    http://therightscoop.com/heres-the-evidence-obama-wiretapped-trump-towers/
    I am not sure I have much faith in the prospects that the Obama admin is following the law. There seems to be significant evidence to the contrary out there…//Michigan-Patriot

  51. And some additional clues on Trump wiretapping: Did NSA Admiral Mike Rogers Warn Trump On November 17th, 2016?…https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/03/occams-razor-did-nsa-admiral-mike-rogers-warn-trump-on-november-17th-2016/#more-129469
    Michigan-Patriot

  52. citizenwells

    Good morning.
    An asteroid, the size of a large house, is passing earth today at approx. 20,000 mi.
    A near miss (collision) in celestial terms.

  53. CW….
    Well, if close enough to see in these parts, BS..because sprays started here at 7 as I hung my laundry on the back porch!!!

  54. CW………
    …………these passing stones seem to be getting closer each time……do you think that perhaps our creator is doing this to get our attention? Mankind seems to be going insane everywhere on earth. Maybe his next missile will be for the purpose of eradicating the non believers, and will be right on target.

  55. oldsailor84
    The TRUMP Tap
    It is may understanding that NSA does not issue warrants. NSA must get approval from the courts. It was reported by Judge Jeanine last night that NSA made an initial request for the wiretap, but was turned down because the would “TRUMP” appeared on the warrant. A second requested was made with the word “TRUMP” removed and the wiretap warrant was granted.

    I think if all this goes down, they are going to pull the plug on Obama, and Obama will go down the swamp drain.

    In fact we need to send Joe the plummer to 2446 Belmont Rd NW Washington DC to make sure the drains are working.

  56. Anyone got change for a bus ticket?

    Federal Court Hearing Tuesday, March 7, in Clinton Email Case, Judicial Watch Seeking Answers on Abedin/Weiner Laptop Emails

    MARCH 02, 2017
    (Washington DC) – Judicial Watch today announced a hearing will be held Tuesday, March 7, 2017, regarding Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit seeking former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s emails that were sent or received during her tenure from February 2009 to January 31, 2013, as well as all emails by other State Department employees to Clinton regarding her non-‘state.gov’ email address (Judicial Watch, Inc. v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:15-cv-00687)). The case is before Judge James E. Boasberg.

    Items of discussion at the hearing will be the emails of Clinton aide Huma Abedin that were found on the laptop of Anthony Weiner, Abedin’s estranged husband. Judicial Watch also will be seeking answers as to the timing of the release of Clinton’s emails that were recovered by the FBI in its investigation of the server used by Clinton and others.

    The State Department has previously been ordered to produce documents to Judicial Watch, and is currently processing 500 pages per month from disk one of seven available disks. At the upcoming hearing, the State Department must address the number of documents subject to FOIA on the remaining disks.

    The hearing details are:

    Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017
    Time: 9:30 a.m. ET
    Location: Courtroom 21
    U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia
    333 Constitution Ave NW
    Washington, DC 20001

    The lawsuit was originally filed in May 2015.

  57. bob strauss

    The usurper, and Hilliary were counting on controlling the DOJ, in which case there would be no legal jeopardy for them. Guess what!?

    **************************

  58. bob strauss

  59. bob strauss

  60. bob strauss

    NPR: 25 Million Votes For Clinton ‘Completely Fake’ – She Lost Popular Vote

    http://yournewswire.com/npr-25-million-fake-clinton-votes/

  61. oldsailor84

    Bob Strauss…….
    ………..I have doubts that the DOJ have given up their allegiance to Soetoro. I believe that there are still many of them who are HOSTILE towards the elected POTUS………but if they are not extremely careful each ,and everyone of them will end up in prison.

  62. oldsailor84

    Bob Strauss……….
    IN WHICH CASE ……….
    ……….the entire DOJ, AND THE FBI should RECUSE THEMSELVES AS WELL. I believe that a special independent commission should be assembled to take on the COMPLETE INVESTIGATION OF THE NOW SERIOUSLY TWISTED, AND CONFUSED ISSUE OF RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN OUR ELECTION……..WHICH SEVERAL HIGH RANKING OFFICIALS HAVE ALREADY PUBLICALLY STATED “THERE IS NO EVEIDENCE WHATSOEVER OF RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE”. YET THE INSANITY CONTINUES. SO WHY THE HELL IS THIS STILL AN ISSUE………THAT IS EASY……..THE SICK LIBERAL HALFWITS CANNOT GET PAST THE FACT THAT THEY LOST THE ELECTION, WHICH THEY BELIEVE THEY REALLY WON. THIS TELLS THE STORY THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE WON THE ELECTION BECAUSE THEY PERCIEVE THEMSELVES TO BE SOOOOOOOO SUPERRRRRRRIOR TO ALL OTHER PEOPLE THAT ALL AMERICANS SHOULD VOTE FOR THEM. THIS IS THE LIBERAL TWISTED MINDSET AT WORK. FURTHER THE PEW RESEARCH FOUND THAT NEARLY 25,OOO,OOO DEMOCRATIC VOTES WERE LEGALLY INVALID.

  63. oldsailor84

    I DISAGREE………
    ……….THAT THER SHOULD BE A NEW HEALTHCARE LAW. I BELIEVE THAT THE SO CALLED ACA SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DIE, AND TAKE THE MORONS WHO PERPETRATED THE ACT WITH IT. THE LIBERALS OWN THE ACA THEREFORE WHEN IT FINALLY FLOPS COMPLETELY THEY WILL BE THE ONES FEELING THE HEAT. IT IS DOUBTFUL THAT ACA WOULD SURVIVE 2017 WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL FINANCIAL RESCUSITATION.

  64. oldsailor84

    I HAVE A QUESTION……..
    ……..FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP. I ASK WHEN IS HE GOING TO STEP IN TO THE MULTI MILLION DOLLAR TAXPAYER MONEY GIVEAWAY WHICH IS HAPPENING EVERY MONTH. EVERY ILLEGAL WHO IS NOT DEPORTED IS RECEIVING $1200.00 A MONTH FROM THE SS SYSTEM. WAY BACK,SOCIAL SECURITY WAS TAKEN OVER BY THE BASTARDS IN THE GOVERNMENT SO THAT THEY COULD LINE THEIR OWN POCKETS AT THE EXPENSE OF PEOPLE WHO PAID IN. THEN ALONG CAME THE WAR IN VIETNAM WHICH THE SAME BASTARDS FINANCED WITH SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY. THE SYSTEM WAS SOON CLOSE TO FAILURE WHEN IT WAS MADE A PART OF THE GENERAL FUND………THAT IS WHY TODAY SOCIAL SECURITY IS SUCH A HUGE AMOUNT OF THE BUDGET. THE FUNDS IT CONTAINED WERE SQUANDERED IN VIET NAM, THEN THE BASTARDS IN GOVERNMENT USED IT TO FINANCE HUGE RAISES FOR THEMSELVES WHICH WERE ILLEGALLY GIVEN TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. FIRST RAISE ONLY WEEKS AFTER STEALING THE FUNDS CONGRESS GAVE THEMSELVES BACK TO BACK RAISES 23% THEN A FEW MONTHS LATER ANOTHER 17%. TODAY EVERY ILLEGAL PIECE OF SLIME IN AMERICA IS GETTING $1200.00 EACH MONTH FROM SS AND THEY HAVE’NT PAID IN A PENNY. THIS IS THANKS TO OUR BLEEDING HEARTS LIBERALS, WHO THINK THE ILLEGALS ARE ENTITLED TO THE MONEY…………AND THEY ARE HANDING IT OUT LIKE CANDY. YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING IN TO IT AS EMPLOYEES SHOULD REFUSE TO PAY INTO IT ANY LONGER UNTIL THE GRAND LARCENY BEING PERPETRATED ON A MONTHLY BASIS BY CONGRESS STOPS. THERE IS A NEED TO RE PRIVATISE THE SYSTEM AS IT WAS BEFORE 1968, AND PUT A BILL INTO LAW THAT PREVENTS CONGRESS FROM RAPING IT EVERY MONTH. THE ILLEGALS ARE NOT ENTITLED TO A DAMN PENNY OF THE MONEY FROM OUR SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM. IT IS ALSO TIME TO NAIL THE BASTARDS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR HANDING OUT THE SS FUNDS TO THE ILLEGALS.

  65. bob strauss

    BREAKING: Obama Doesn’t DENY Wiretapping – Look Who He’s BLAMING

    Obama — The buck NEVER stops with him.

    He was a spectator in his own Adminstration. Eight years in office, and with every scandal he only learns about it through the news.

    Everything is someone else’s fault.

    Somehow, Obama had ‘no knowledge’ that IRS was targeting Conservative groups.

    Somehow Obama had ‘no knowledge’ of Fast & Furious.

    Somehow, Obama had no knowledge of a LOT of things.

    And everything else was either Dubya’s fault or the Republicans’ fault.

    Miraculously, he never managed to take credit for ANY of the problems in his administration.

    And when his AG met on a Tarmac with someone under investigation, less than a week from the time that his Wife (Democratic Presidential candidate) promised her an inducement — ie: that she would retain her job — he didn’t think it necessary to remove her from her office.

    Nope. Becuase for a hard-leftist like Obama — EVERYTHING is political. And the tools of government power are to entrench Leftist ideology and to bludgeon the opposition.

    We see this in the various cynical political moves Obama made in the months after Trump was elected. Just ask Israel. Or the reclassification of the wiretapping of General Flynn. Or the EPA legislation of the last day in office. Or his various pardons. Or Obama’s last-minute hiring spree of political partisans.

    So what POSSIBLE reason would we expect Obama would take responsibility for this?

    Like anything else, he has to be DRAGGED — kicking and screaming — to face responsibility for his decisions and involvement. Which are usually done through ‘plausible deniability’. But can it even be seriously denied that his fingerprints are ALL over this one?

    “A cardinal rule of the Obama Administration was that no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice,” Lewis said. “As part of that practice, neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false.”

    sure

    While Valerie Jarrett said he never ordered it, case closed, Obama’s former speechwriter gave a more nuanced answer:

    I’d be careful about reporting that Obama said there was no wiretapping. Statement just said that neither he nor the WH ordered it.

    — Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) March 4, 2017

    Seeing as Valerie Jarrett just moved in with the Obama’s we can take any denial of hers with a grain of salt. (Or maybe an entire salt lick.)

    Obama, a spectator in his own administration. He was only ever a harmless observer.

    Spending his post-presidential life quarterbacking the Trump #Resistance from a Washington address, with Valerie Jarret living down the hall? Is that even relevant?

    Nothing suspicious there, at all. Nope.

    Hey look! Russians!

    http://clashdaily.com/2017/03/breaking-obama-doesnt-deny-wiretapping-look-hes-blaming/

  66. bob strauss

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