Ebola body fluid threat mostly ignored, Indian man tested negative Ebola found in semen, Dr. Michael Oserholm we are making this up as we go, Virus likely has mutated, Murphy’s Law and mathematical probabilities

Ebola body fluid threat mostly ignored, Indian man tested negative Ebola found in semen, Dr. Michael Oserholm we are making this up as we go, Virus likely has mutated, Murphy’s Law and mathematical probabilities

“Sooner or later someone in the US will come in contact with Ebola contagion & go undetected. They will then infect many others.”…Citizen Wells

“We are making this up as we go”…Dr. Michael Oserholm

“You can see that these doctors, who are highly trained people, got themselves infected,”
“So sending troops into an area, if they’re dealing one-on-one with a patient, they’re not going to be able to protect themselves very well. It’s not easy to [prevent transmission], because you get tired and you get careless and you make some simple mistakes. All it takes is one virus particle.”…Dr. Lee Hieb, former president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons

 

 

We have had the warnings from the mathematicians.

The possible numbers of Ebola victims worldwide and the US.

Do not forget Murphy’s Law.

“Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.”

It is true.

As I have stated before, there are 2 extremes of reactions to the Ebola Virus.

Panic and over confidence.

The responses so far have been closer to the latter.

From CNN November 19, 2014.

“An Ebola survivor has been quarantined in India after his semen tested positive for the virus, health officials there have announced.

The 26-year-old man, an Indian national, traveled to New Delhi from Liberia on November 10, almost two months after he was hospitalized in the West African nation after showing symptoms of the illness, India’s health ministry said in a statement.

He was released from the Liberian hospital on September 30 with documents declaring him free of clinical signs linked to Ebola, the ministry added.

As a precautionary measure, Indian authorities carried out tests on his body fluids, which confirmed traces of the virus in his semen, the statement said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/19/world/asia/india-ebola-semen/index.html

From the John Hopkins News Network October 14, 2014.

“The swiftly moving Ebola epidemic presents an immense challenge to unprepared national and global health systems, infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm said at an Ebola symposium Tuesday at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, is one of the leading public spokesmen on the Ebola epidemic, which has killed more than 4,300 in West Africa. Although he has reviewed hundreds of published papers on Ebola and briefs top government officials on the epidemic’s spread, Osterholm readily admits that he knows less today about the Ebola virus than he did nine months ago.

“Let’s acknowledge we’re making this up as we go and we have to become more comfortable with uncertainty,” said Osterholm, the keynote speaker at the event, titled “Dean’s Symposium on Ebola: Crisis, Context and Response.””

“At this stage in the epidemic, Osterholm said, the Ebola virus has the upper hand, and the global health community is playing catch-up.

“The virus is operating on virus time and the rest of us are operating on bureaucracy and program time, and the virus is winning hands down,” Osterholm told an audience of 350 in Sommer Hall and more than 2,500 following the live webcast.”

“As the Ebola crisis continues to unfold, Osterholm said he sees “lots of unexpecteds ahead of us.” He said he is convinced that a vaccine is the only hope of containing the outbreak but characterized the U.S. investment in vaccine research as “a drop in the bucket.”

“There’s a big disconnect between the work to get us there and getting it into somebody in Africa,” said Osterholm, at one point calling the Ebola outbreak “[The World Health Organization’s] 9/11.””

Read more:

http://hub.jhu.edu/2014/10/14/ebola-experts-johns-hopkins#

From Natural News November 21, 2014.

“If Ebola remains in semen of infected men, why were male Ebola victims in US ‘cleared’ as virus-free?”

“Every discharged male Ebola victim is still a public health threat

What this suggests is that Dr. Kent Brantly, Dr. Thomas Cairns and all the other male Ebola survivors are still a public health threat. If Ebola is still being detected in a male patient who was discharged as healthy nearly two months ago, then it is probably still present in these men, who have since returned home to their families.

The only reason this was even discovered is because the Indian man had recently attempted to fly back to New Delhi, upon which health officials in his native land decided to take extra precautionary measures. The man was reportedly “symptom-free,” yet tests revealed that he still had traces of the virus in his bodily fluids.

In fact, the Indian man had undergone three separate Ebola tests at the airport prior to flying, and all of them came back negative. But when he arrived in India, a follow-up test showed that Ebola was still present, proving both that Ebola tests are wildly inaccurate and that the virus is longer-lasting than we have all been led to believe.”

“Ebola clearly persists well beyond observable infection period

The CDC supposedly agrees with this, but you’ll be hard-pressed to find any information about this in the media prior to this recent revelation. Since we first began reporting on this outbreak, there has hardly been any mention in the mainstream media about the Ebola virus possibly persisting in bodily fluid for several months after a person is cleared as being a “survivor.” Natural News first reported on this possibility in early August.

This ironic failure seems to match the entire Ebola narrative, which has changed dramatically on numerous occasions since it first started gaining speed. In the beginning, we were all told that the only way to contract Ebola was to literally share blood with someone else. Now, we know that the virus can spread through surfaces and even through micro-droplets in the air.”

Read more:

http://www.naturalnews.com/047740_Ebola_semen_sexual_disease_transmission.html

 

Thanks to commenter RMinNC.

 

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136 responses to “Ebola body fluid threat mostly ignored, Indian man tested negative Ebola found in semen, Dr. Michael Oserholm we are making this up as we go, Virus likely has mutated, Murphy’s Law and mathematical probabilities

  1. Is it my imagination (I don’t think so) or is the reporting on Ebola and subsequent search engine appearance being diminished?
    Is this why Obama chose an attorney for Ebola Czar?

  2. Right from the corrupt head….as if we didn’t know:

    Bombshell: Email Proves that White House, DOJ Targeted Reporter Sharyl Attkisson

    Judicial Watch reports that the Obama administration has turned over about 42,000 pages of documents related to the Fast and Furious scandal. The administration was forced to turn the documents over to Judicial Watch in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. Judicial Watch is posting them on its web site. The administration turned them over on November 18, 2014.

    One of the documents provides smoking gun proof that the Obama White House and the Eric Holder Justice Department colluded to get CBS News to block reporter Sharyl Attkisson. Attkisson was one of the few mainstream media reporters who paid any attention to the deadly gun-running scandal.

    In an email dated October 4, 2011, Attorney General Holder’s top press aide, Tracy Schmaler, called Attkisson “out of control.” Schmaler told White House Deputy Press Secretary Eric Schultz that he intended to call CBS news anchor Bob Schieffer to get the network to stop Attkisson.

    Schultz replied, “Good. Her piece was really bad for the AG.”

    Schultz also told Schmaler that he was working with reporter Susan Davis, then at the National Journal, to target Rep. Darrel Issa (R-CA). Issa led the House investigation into Fast and Furious. Davis now works at USA Today. In the email chain, Schultz tells Schmaler that he would provide Davis with “leaks.”

    Davis wrote a critical piece on Issa a few weeks later.

    Attkisson was later subjected to hacking of her computer by people who remain unknown, but who likely belong to a government agency. She and CBS parted ways earlier in 2014, and Attkisson has since said that the network blocked her reports from airing.

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/11/20/bombshell-email-proves-that-white-house-doj-targeted-reporter-sharyl-attkisson/

  3. Arpaio Filing Lawsuit Against Obama For Executive Actions On Immigration

    Now if only he could find a way in this lawsuit to introduce another basis for this immigration act to be an illegal act because the man himself who is issuing all of these lawless acts is himself not an American citizen that would finally get the facts before a court. But that could only be allowed if the court chosen isn’t already corrupted with an Obama toady judge.

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/11/21/arpaio-filing-lawsuit-against-obama-immigration/

  4. Yes, Obama has been in this country over 5 years as an illegal immigrant from Kenya/Indonesia.
    He would have a problem with the criminal check.

  5. CW…….yes he would undoubtedly have a problem when even his Social Security number is checked out by a trained investigator……as for the rest…..icing on the cake!…..that is with a court that does not use a STACKED DECK.

  6. oldsailor82 | November 21, 2014 at 11:12 am |
    CW…….yes he would undoubtedly have a problem when even his Social Security number is checked out by a trained investigator……as for the rest…..icing on the cake!…..that is with a court that does not use a STACKED DECK.
    ============================
    Yes, we seem to have a real epidemic of virus here now for years…..a virus of weak spines in positions of power and control.

  7. CW……..
    If it was me doing it I would take everything I have ,and publish it in every newspaper that will print it,and if they refuse then I would buy a page and ask for my copy to be printed which I furnish. BIG BUCKS talks with newspapers. A page might cost $10,000.00 but if they agree to print what you supply you are home free. If the USURPER tries to counter sue then you bring all the CERTIFIED evidence to the courtroom. There is more than one way to skin a cat.! The battle is IMPORTANT,but the war is even more important. It will end at the HAGUE……via a garrote.

  8. Oldsailor82 and CW……..

    It makes no difference when our Constitution has been VOIDED and our politicians are BRAIN DEAD……

  9. I saw this blog on another site this morning…..I think it says what most Americans are feeling right now….well all except those damn liberal democrats and Obama….

    “Are you ignorant white liberal Dumbacrats happy now? I hope a Mexican gang moves next door to you, rapes your wives, gangbangs your daughters, sells dope to your sons, and steals your cars while they spray paint your house with graffiti (in Spanish)! “

  10. CW……In a war there is several ways to fight it,you can atack,attack attack until the enemy no longer has a place to hide, or you can stand down and let the enemy step in the groundhog hole first…..after which he is crippled and unable to fight effectively,then you finish him off. The latter is what I think might happen as it relates to Soetoro. He now is committed to an advance, but I do not think he has adequate forces behind him now. The battlerfield is riddled with GROUNDHOG HOLES,and there is more than an even chance that he will inadvertently plunge one,or both of his legs into one of the holes,at which point he will be finished and the war will be won. The preponderance of the evidence will then be examined by the court…..simply because the court will NOT HAVE A CHOICE!. This might well be the reasoning of the Arpaio crowd also.

  11. RMINNC……..
    ……..and that is why the fourth wing of government is important…….which is we the people……..and I think that there are still enough of us around to light the fuse and direct the fire of our artillery well enough to give the BASTARDS reason to REREAD the Declaration of Independence,and not TWIST the words this time. I say all of this,as I pray that THERE ARE ENOUGH OF US LEFT who still know UP from DOWN, and LEFT from RIGHT,because if the job is left to our younger generation NOTHING WILL HAPPEN,and the war will indeed be lost. Too many of them are TOO BUSY getting STONED five times each day……and another group thinks everybody owes them a FREE living, so they will not help.

  12. All Arpaio needs is one reply from “Obama” on his lawsuit then Arpaio can invoke: Amendment 11 – Judicial Limits. Ratified 2/7/1795.
    The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.
    This clearly states that U.S. JUDICIAL POWER cannot be commenced by citizens of ANY FOREIGN STATE. Likewise, a State court has no constitutional power either.”
    “no person with citizenship from another foreign state have any constitutional standing in court”
    Since Obama is stricken from his mother’s passport, his citizenship status is in question and this article of the constitution does not allow the courts judicial power to be used when he answers your torts. You could challenge every answer or motion that his lawyers make until Obama’s citizenship is established. They always attack your standing and the constitution allows you to attack his standing as well. If he is not a citizen, the court cannot hear his arguments regarding your standing. The constitution requires evidence and discovery of state citizenship and foreign citizenship before U.S. judicial power can be applied.

  13. Last night, Obama said, OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE BROKEN….Now just how in the hell can anyone say our immigration laws are broken when they have not been ENFORCED for years! How could any other law not be “broken” if it were not enforced as well?

    Imagine letting murderers, robbers, and rapists go unpunished for their lawless acts then have the “balls” put them on the welfare rolls…were we to do the same in Mexico, see where that would get us !!!

    This whole immigration thing is such a total crock-of-$hit…. and it’s absolutely sickening to see our president stoop so low as to play to the tune these “bandetios from South of the border” are strumming on their “getars”

    But this is all part of the “NORTH AMERICAN UNION plan….and Obama has his marching orders from his puppet master and he must comply.

    Why don’t we just stop all this crap and adopt the very same immigration laws that Mexican has and see how these illegal bastards like the consequences of their un-lawful actions then?

    Try entering Mexico without a proper visa and you will wind up in some stinking Mexican jail fearing for your life every moment you are there just ask that Marine who took the wrong turn out of San Dagio….did Obama follow his own rules of “leaving no man behind” ?….hell no, he NEVBER once spoke up to get the marine released….but he sure wasted a lot of ‘air time “bringing a deserter home” remember Berghdal? And that bastard got promoted to Sergeant and drew 5 years of back pay for going over the hill.

    I just read today where Mexico will soon start charging anyone going into Mexico 540peso’s for the right to stay over 7 days in Mexico……maybe our government should start charging all these unwelcomed illegals about 500 dollars each for the honor of coming to America…..that may stop some of this border jumping.

  14. DSP2
    You have read my mind. That is primarily why I said that the battlefield is riddled with GROUNDHOG holes. Certainly now that Soetoro is committed to an advance(as of last night) the chances of him stepping into one of the groundhog holes(mostly of his own making) is very good. As you said when he tries to reply or attack he will find himself under severe attack from his flanks,as well as his rear. This equates with allowing discovery,at which point all CERTIFIED documents, MUST BE ACCEPTED BY THE COURT. The judge will have NO CHOICE. har har

  15. RMINNC…….
    The laws aren’t broken…….they are NOT ENFORCED by the government DELIBERATELY. Our laws are BING BROKEN every second of every 24 hours,by the DHS,and the LIBERAL perpetrators at the Wackey House who all see the world in INVERTED,and otherwise PERVERTED light.

  16. RMINNC………
    I think that Bergdahl was a deliberate plant by a special secret order to go over the hill, and get himself captured by the enemy. I think that the entire CROCK of CRAP was CHOREOGRAPHED from the WACKEY HOUSE,to be used as an ACE in the hole when push came to shove. He decided to use his left bower guarded to trump anybody who acted against the release of the FIVE GOAT LOVERS. All he had to do was call up the GOATHERDERS who were ALLEGEDLY holding Bergdahl and say to them “your check is in the mail ,and now we need to release Bergdahl”,…..I need some distraction of the American public.

  17. Everybody needs to keep in mind that Mr.Bergdahl had once enlisted in the US Coast Guard, where he was found to be unfit for service and was DISCHARGED. He lasted only a few weeks. Not long thereafter he was allowed to enter the US Army,and that information about Bergdahl was available to recruiters. So why the hell did they allow him to enter the Army? Maybe just maybe it was all a charade from the beginning…..perpetrated by the occupant of the Wackey House. Nothing like playing poker with a STACKED DECK. Win every time, ……until you get caught……..BANG BANG. har har

  18. oldsailor82….

    you are correct…the US State Department paid 20 million dollars to get that damn deserter back…….that’s a fact !!!

  19. BYE BYE…….have a great day all.

  20. THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN…….

    GUILTY….WHAT IS THE PUNISHMENT?

  21. “Authorities are closely watching a new front in the outbreak, a cluster of cases in Mali linked to the death of a 70-year-old Muslim imam who was brought to Mali’s capital, Bamako, from neighboring Guinea — and health officials didn’t immediately recognize that he had Ebola.

    “The new chain of transmission in Mali is a cause of deep concern,” Ban said. He dispatched World Health Organization Director-General Margaret Chan to Mali on Friday.”

    http://hosted2.ap.org/OHPOD/6084c7c829dd45c29706e08009c5780b/Article_2014-11-21-US–Ebola%20Response/id-bda452bf128944ba91c3811a1b0dd833

  22. “The international response to West Africa’s Ebola epidemic, coupled with more effective action by local communities, has stopped the exponential spread of the disease in one of the hardest-hit countries, Liberia, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Thursday.”

    ““There have been big changes in community behavior,” Dr. Frieden said. But he added that there were still, by some estimates, 1,000 to 2,000 new Ebola cases a week — the bulk of those now in Guinea and Sierra Leone.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/21/world/africa/ebola-spread-has-slowed-in-liberia-cdc-says.html?_r=0

  23. Drudge made some mention of our gov’t (“and the smartest guy in the room”) already paying out money to get Bergdahl back once before, and it was a scam by some hustler over there and they lost a bundle.

  24. SOMETHING ISN’TJIVING HERE…….HE CAN SUE BECAUSE HE THINKS AMNESTY IS UNCONSTITUTION…BUT HE WON’T SUE BECAUSE THE MAN DOING IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL……Am I missing something here?

    PHOENIX – An Arizona sheriff who has often clashed with the federal government over the enforcement of immigration laws has filed a lawsuit to stop new policies announced by President Barack Obama.

    The suit filed Thursday in federal court in Washington on behalf of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio contends Obama acted outside his constitutional authority by not going through Congress.
    —————————————————————————————————–
    WHAT CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY? OBAMA HASN’T HAD ANY CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY IN THE PAST SIX YEARS……….WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING JOE?

  25. RMinNC | November 21, 2014 at 4:52 pm |
    WHAT CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY? OBAMA HASN’T HAD ANY CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY IN THE PAST SIX YEARS……….WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING JOE?
    ********************
    RMinNC,
    The Elephant in the room, the usurper’s lack of Citizenship, and ineligibility to be a Constitutionally legal president.

  26. Hi BOB…..

    Seems like some crazy game they are playing doesn’t it ? I guess the bottom line is; WE THE PEOPLE no longer have a Constitution….

    We have an idiot for Emperor….kind of like Nero?.. or worse? At least Nero could play a fiddle !

    Soetoro (the Elephant in the room) play with someone else’s fiddle !!!!

  27. or was that a skin flute?

  28. BOMBSHELL: Investigators Say They Have Recovered Lois Lerner’s ‘Missing’ Emails

    November 21, 2014 By Greg Campbell

    Friday, the U.S. Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) reported to several Congressional committees that many of the allegedly “missing” emails to and from former IRS official Lois Lerner have been recovered.

    Lois Lerner remains at the heart of the IRS scandal for her having overseen the IRS’ tax-exempt division that designated nonprofit statuses. Between the approximate years of 2010 to 2013, Lerner’s division harassed and suppressed the political activities of blossoming Tea Party and conservative nonprofit groups that sought to make a difference. The IRS spent years denying nonprofit statuses for conservative nonprofits while allowing left-leaning nonprofits no such scrutiny.

    The IRS made continued requests in their investigations of Tea Party groups by asking for membership rosters, emails, copies of social media postings and making chilling requests such as demanding to know who were members, what was discussed at meetings, what kind of reading material was common amongst members and other intrusive measures to ascertain and obstruct the nature of nonprofit activity.

    Lerner had been embroiled in controversy as Congressional investigators have sought emails sent within these years. However, Lerner maintained that she suffered a computer crash and that the “missing” emails were irretrievable.

    While government officials have maintained that Lerner’s harddrive with the emails was irretrievable, they also soon revealed that they had “misplaced” the harddrive, thus prohibiting outside technicians to try and recover the emails.

    Earlier this month, the IRS admitted that they never really looked for the missing emails or Lois Lerner’s harddrive.

    A Congressional aide revealed on Friday, however, that the Inspector General’s Office has recovered up to 30,000 emails on disaster recovery tapes maintained by the IRS.

    “They just said it took them several weeks and some forensic effort to get these emails off these tapes,” a congressional revealed to the Washington Examiner.

    It is not yet known what is in the emails as it may take several weeks of continued searching to recover all data from the voluminous amount of disaster recovery tapes.

    Republican Rep. Darrell Issa, who has vigorously pursued the truth behind the IRS scandal, stated,

    “Though it is unclear whether TIGTA has found all of the missing Lois Lerner e-mails, there may be significant information in this discovery. The Oversight Committee will be looking for information about her mindset and who she was communicating with outside the IRS during a critical period of time when the IRS was targeting conservative groups. This discovery also underscores the lack of cooperation Congress has received from the IRS. The agency first failed to disclose the loss to Congress and then tried to declare Lerner’s e-mails gone and lost forever. Once again it appears the IRS hasn’t been straight with Congress and the American people.”

    http://bit.ly/1p6TPKg

  29. CW,
    Something has triggered moderation of my last post.

  30. AND NOW…….
    ……..three lawsuits filed,and counting…….many more to come! Now lets see if the STATES have NO STANDING……har har the wordsmiths won’t be able to reword anything if the lawsuits are combined into a CLASS ACTION……in which ALL CERTIFIED EVIDENCE IS ADMISSABLE. At least 18 states are INJURED by the Declaration of Amnesty last night. lawyers are going to get rich on this one.

  31. RMINNC…..
    I would say that he “FIDDLES” with other’s “G strings.”

  32. AND NOW…….
    ………..the stage is set, and the opening scene is the view of the battlefield……which is riddled with hidden groundhog holes. I am praying that Soetoro steps into one of them. Each one of them has the same potential as that of an M18A (Claymore). Each lawsuit will require another visit to the same battlefield,if acted upon individually. If the lawsuits are made into a class action the battlefield will become 100 times larger,and with the same HOLES. Go get em Soetoro!

  33. ……..at least 18 AGs of various states are considering lawsuits against the person who occupies the WACKEY HOUSE. OKLAMOMA is going ahead.

  34. Hi Old Sailor,
    Your military experience gives you an edge when it comes to analyzing and speculating on the “hidden groundhog holes” that are facing Soetoro. I believe you are entirely correct on that theory and also am fascinated by DSP2’s comment re. the situation concerning Soetoro being involved in a lawsuit. DSP2’s quotes, ““no person with citizenship from another foreign state have any constitutional standing in court”. This could get really dicey, don’t you think? Evil is of such a nature that often devilish schemes and behavior collapse of their own weight. Sheriff Arpaio is no dummy either, and this may well be what he has in mind. Comment?

  35. CW,
    Yes, Obama has been in this country over 5 years as an illegal immigrant from Kenya/Indonesia.
    He would have a problem with the criminal check.
    ———————————————————————————————

    Let me see if I have my facts straight.
    Barry Soetoro aka. Barack Hussein Obama has a bogus BC, a phony SSN, is now issuing an EO granting amnesty to illegal immigrants. Now I ask a question “isn’t Barry Soetoro an illegal immigrant?” Therefore, Barry Soetoro is also granting himself amnesty and is on the pathway to become a LEGAL IMMIGRANT AND CITIZEN!

  36. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Has anyone seen this?

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/30000-missing-emails-from-irs-lerner-recovered/article/2556522

    But I thought they were “gone” forever? Something about a scratched hard drive or some such nonsence.

    And they put this out one day after the President spoke and right before Ferguson blows up again.

  37. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    How RUDE of me:

    Good morning CW, Zach, et al

    I need to learn more about manners.

  38. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Michael Brown’s family is calling for “peace” in Ferguson:

    http://www.aol.com/article/2014/11/21/michael-browns-family-pleads-for-peace-in-advance-of-ferguson-grand-jury-darren-wilson-decision/20997505/?icid=maing-grid7%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D568696

    I bet deep down, they are thinking:

    “Let’s burn this MFer down!!!!!!!”

    UP is DOWN, so you have to believe just the opposite of what they say.

  39. Good morning IB, et al.

  40. THE SIGN IS SELF EXPLANITORY ……

  41. CW…….
    It would seem that Mali would want to get the Ebola stopped in it’s tracks quickly……they have a awful lot to lose.

  42. CabbyAZ………
    My basic thinking when I used the synonym”groundhog holes” refers to exactly what DSP2 had mentioned. A couple of years ago I stumbled onto the same 1795 law. I didn’t remember all of it so I went to a special law library wing at our public library,and looked up everything I could find about it. DSP2 has it pretty much correct…at least inasmuch as I can digest it. You must have a very open mindset when you read such legal scripture, because so many times there is a number of interpretations of it as is the case when it is TWISTED by our overeducated wordsmiths, and sometimes in case law. That is as far as I will take what I have to say……..except that the alleged law creates many of the groundhog holes,but there are just as many such holes that Soetoro,and his goon squad,are directly responsible for as well. Hopefully he will stumble into a hole of his own making,which he has FORGOTTEN about,and directly above the hole dangles a GARROTE. Compulsive,and repetetive lies also create such holes.
    While I think there is something to what Hapnhal has to say,I am not sure if making himself a Citizen by PROXY would be solid ground for him. There are far too many variables in the mix. While I can’t say what devastating evidence Arpaio,and Zullo might possess it would seem that a lawsuit would be one potentially successful way to get CERTIFIED EVIDENCE in front of the judge. But sadly a CROOKED,(payroll) judge will say,or do literally anything,and damn few people will even pay any attention to it,and therein lies the primary reason why the crooked judges get away with so much bullshi#. Such judges need to be BOOTED OFF THE BENCH,PROSECUTED,and given some lengthy slammer vacations,along with huge fines. When or if the deteriorating situation in America turns into ALL OUT CIVIL WAR, I personally think that many judges who have PROTECTED Soetoro, could easily end up DANGLING from a live oak tree. I don’t say this as any sort of threat, rather I say it because I have a gut feeling that sucha thing could easily occur in a CIVIL WAR. Simply put, IN A WAR THERE IS NO LAW…..NOT EVEN MARTIAL LAW WOULD NECESSARILY BE EFFECTIVE,OR EVEN IMPOSED BY ANYONE. WAR IS WHAT IT IS,ONE ENTITY VS ANOTHER ON THE BATTLEFIELD. ONE SIDE WINS AND THE OTHER LARGELY DIES. THAT IS WHY I SAY MARTIAL LAW WILL STOP NOBODY,WHO KNOWS BETTER,AND/OR IS REALLY ANGERED CLEAR TO HIS/HER VERY SOUL.The American Civil war was and still is the war that killed the most Americans. North and South! If it occurs again there is a strong liklihood that it will once again kill thousands of Americans. Literally speaking “BLOOD WOULD BE FREELY RUNNING” in the gutters everywhere across America.I pray that Americans soon wake up and realise what is happening before it is TOO LATE.

  43. ……as I recall one judge DID allow DISCOVERY,but soon thereafter threw everything out,as well as the plaintiffs,and reversed everything up to that point.(probably was threatened by somebody at the WACKEY HOUSE.) It appears that many US judges are more intent upon covering Soetoro’s a$$,than they are upholding the Constitution…….would we call that a “GOOD OLE BOYS CLUB”?

  44. …….i even now have deep suspicion that our SCOTUS has become politicised. I have my doubts that the SCOTUS will even look at anything which relates in any way to to Soetoro. It has two people who were appointed to the SCOTUS by a PHONEY POTUS…..and the appointees are legally invalid as such. I personally believe that the Chief of Police knew exactly the legality of the person who he swore into office. If that is accurate then he IS AN ACCESSORY TO TREASON.

  45. bye bye all ………time for my marmalade, muffin.and a cup of tea

  46. A COUNTRY FOUNDED BY GENIUSES BUT NOW RUN BY IDIOTS……

    If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for entering and remaining in the country illegally — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but now run by idiots.

    If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip or to take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but now run by idiots.

    If you MUST show your identification to board an airplane, cash a check, buy liquor, or check out a library book and rent a video, but NOT TO VOTE for who runs the government — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but now run by idiots.

    If the government wants to prevent stable, law-abiding citizens from owning gun magazines that hold more than ten rounds, but gives twenty F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but now run by idiots.

    If, in the nation’s largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but not one 24-ounce soda, because 24-ounces of a sugary drink that might make you fat — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but now run by idiots.

    If an 80-year-old woman, or a three-year-old girl who is confined to a wheelchair can be strip-searched by the TSA at the airport, but a woman in a burka, or a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but now run by idiots.

    If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but now run by idiots.

    If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his teacher is “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration, or diversity class in grade school is perfectly acceptable — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but now run by idiots.

    If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more government regulation and intrusion, while not working is rewarded with Food Stamps, WIC checks, Medicaid benefits, subsidized housing, and free cell phones — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but now run by idiots.

    If the government’s plan for getting people back to work is to provide incentives for not working, by granting 99 weeks of unemployment checks, without any requirement to prove that gainful employment was diligently sought, but couldn’t be found — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but now run by idiots.

    If you pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest big-screen TV, while your neighbor buys iPhones, time shares, a wall-sized do-it-all plasma screen TV and new cars, and the government forgives his debt when he defaults on his mortgage — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but now run by idiots.

    If being stripped of your Constitutional right to defend yourself makes you more “safe” according to the government — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but now run by idiots.

    What a country! Don’t you just love what those IDIOTS have done to it?

    How about we give God a reason to continue blessing America! Get rid of the IDIOTS !!!

  47. FOX 28 says WILSON has been…..INDICTED….leaked !

    If so, I guess it’s time for the WHITE PEOPLE to RIOT !!!!

  48. WE ARE DARREN WILSON…..

  49. Is our government deliberately trying to start a RACE WAR……?

    It sure looks like it from here in North Carolina.

  50. RMinNC | November 22, 2014 at 12:41 pm |

    Hi, RM,

    Apparently, it was bogus and was taken down almost immediately.

    Here’s the scoop:

    http://thedailybanter.com/2014/11/local-fox-stations-website-wrongly-reports-ferguson-cop-darren-wilson-indicted/

  51. SUEK…….
    HUmmmmmmmmmmm now why would a reputable television station do such a DUMB trick as that……..do you smell a rat in the wood pile?

  52. the FBI has dispatched 200 agents to Fergerson……now why would they do that?

    To start trouble or to stop trouble?

    Toss a coin……

  53. “A liberal paradise would be a place where everybody has guaranteed
    employment, free comprehensive healthcare, free education, free food, free housing, free clothing, free utilities, and only law enforcement has guns.”

    “And believe it or not, such a place does, indeed, exist. It’s called prison.”

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio
    Maricopa County Sheriff

  54. Docs: Adviser Tells Attorney General Holder How to Manipulate Press on Fast & Furious

    http://sharylattkisson.com/docs-adviser-tells-attorney-general-holder-how-to-manipulate-press-on-fast-furious

  55. Honor First….
    ……….and they are the CLUCKS who are the real problem in all states,and includes Ferguson. Yep Joe Arpaio got that one right……..the place where everything is FREE is called PRISON. I absolutely agree with him in that vein.
    I would also hope that the person who perpetrated the alleged LEAK is now WITHOUT A JOB.
    BYE BYE have a great day!

  56. WANT TO KNOW WHAT OBAMA THINKS?

    The same thing King George was thinking before they cut his head off……

  57. RMinNC | November 22, 2014 at 2:39 pm |

    Hi, RM,

    I not only smell a rat…I see the bastids scurrying.

    Do ya think that riots (no matter the decision of the Grand Jury) have all been preplanned and orchestrated?

    I’d take that to the bank…

  58. CW,

    Got a ‘situation report’ late last week from the big cheeses regarding the number of Ebola cases worldwide.

    Cases in New England: 0
    Cases in the rest of the U.S.: 0
    Cases in the rest of the world: Varied, depending on the country.

    The test for the virus is inaccurate; people are dying from this scourge who have previously tested negative, even when they were showing some symptoms.

    As you’ve been theorizing all along, exactly how many ‘carriers’ are here and how many are pouring in each day. It’ll just take one more undetected ‘Duncan’ to really get this show on the road.

    Look to NYC to be the breeding ground.

  59. NORTH DAKOTA NAMES GARBAGE DUMP AFTER OBAMA……

    The state of North Dakota has officially named a new publicly-owned landfill after President Barack Obama.

    In an overwhelming 35-10 vote, the state Senate advanced a bill naming a 650-acre site currently under construction after the nation’s 44th president. Governor Jack Dalrymple is expected to sign the measure into law Tuesday.

    When completed, the Barack H. Obama Memorial Landfill will be the largest waste disposal site in North Dakota, and the 17th largest in the United States. It will be especially rich in toxic waste from the local petroleum and medical industries.

    “We wanted to do something to honor this president,” says Republican State Senator Doug Perlman, who was the lead sponsor of the bill. “And I think a pile of garbage is a fitting tribute to Obama’s presidency”

    “We originally planned on naming it after a nearby mountain. But then someone jokingly suggested we name it after Obama. I never thought and idea like that would actually pass. But I was pleasantly surprised.”

    The president is hardly popular in North Dakota. The most recent poll in December 2013 found that Obama has a 35% approval rating in the state, although that figure may have fallen further in the year since. Yet even considering the political climate, seasoned observers are surprised that two Democratic lawmakers voted for the bill’s passage.

    “I supported Obama because I thought he would end the wars in the Middle East;” says Allison Mitchell, a progressive Democrat from Grand Forks. “But he decided to fight new wars abroad instead of fighting for single-payer health care and jobs here at home.

    “I guess people expected me to oppose this landfill thing because I’m a Democrat. But honestly I don’t really care anymore. Maybe this small act of protest will wake him up.”

    Ordinary citizens in the state also seem to approve of the government’s choice.

    “I can’t think of a better name,” says Joe Blough, a plumber from Minot. “It’s darkly colored and it’s full of shit. That pretty much sums up Mr. Obama.”
    —————————————————————————————————-
    I couldn’t have said it any better myself Joe! Thanks, and thank you North Dakota for recognizing this president for exactly what he is…..”full of sound and fury (and %hit) and signifying nothing” !

  60. take me out of moderation CW…please…..

    I was just quoting a citizen of North Dakota….who hit the nail on the head…..

  61. RMinNC | November 23, 2014 at 8:47 am |

    Morning, RM, and thanks for the giggle.

    ND is spot on; a landfill named after Obola-love it!

    My town recently came into the 21st century and supplied us with those new-fangled trash and recyclables containers; an arm on the truck picks the things up and dumps them; no more ‘sanitary engineers’ to physically pick up the trashcan and empty it into the truck.

    On my trash container (owned by the town), I printed a sign and simply wrote ‘OBAMA,’ laminated it, and placed it on the front of the container. Last week, someone from the disposal service (who rides shotgun in case you have ‘overflow’ bags to be picked up) took a Sharpie and put a large check mark after his name :).

    Mission accomplished…

  62. CW………
    I am beginning to think that the CDC has been doing a lot of EDUCATED GUESSING where the transmission of Ebola is concerned. Educated guessing is all well and good,but when all of the GUESSES turn out to be in error…….it might be time start doing some REAL scientific exploration,and testing in the perimeter areas of the ongoing research. If memory serves that is where Jonas Salk discovered the cure for POLIO…….such outside exploration had up to that point been considered to be the least likely to produce results,by most of the scientific community.

  63. Sounds as though Boston is 5 years behind Indiana with respect to GARBAGE COLLECTION……we have had the barrel clamp pickup for a little over 5 years. It obviously speeds up the collection,and it doesn’t have a cell phone up to it’s ear while it is cycling. Of course it doesn’t have an ear either……but it works hard. Cycles about 20 times per each city block. It only requires about 10 minutes for the truck and the operator to empty about 20 totes.Utilises two way articulation,of the hydraulically controlled clamp arm. The papermaking industry has used the same apparatus for decades at the PAPER mills, to handle the huge rolls at the output of the machinery. The city owned totes are pretty large and are on wheels like a two wheel cart. We will never need to buy another garbage can. WHOOOOHOOO!

  64. BTW……most of the garbage truck operators are on a 25 hr week here……yet the trucks operate MON-FRIDAY! All PART TIME DRIVERS! Anybody having a COMMERCIAL DRIVER licensure, who holds a PART TIME job,tells a sad story. Ain’t going to get any better for a long time either. Recently a NITWIT liberal Senator who was on FOX and friends had the stupidity to say that the country is gaining 200,000 jobs a month……When I heard him say that I nearly choked on my TEA,and nearly fell out of the chair with uncontrollable laughter. Boy what a disconnected MORON he IS.!

  65. “Two North Side girls who recently traveled to Sierra Leone are in isolation at Nationwide Children’s Hospital as health officials await Ebola test results that are expected this afternoon.

    The girls, 4 and 6, recently traveled with their 30-year-old mother and had been monitored daily by Columbus Public Health for 17 days since their return, spokesman Jose Rodriguez said this morning.

    The girls developed high fevers overnight and their family notified health officials about 1 a.m. today, he said. When Columbus Public Health last checked in yesterday morning, the girls had no symptoms, Rodriguez said.”

    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/11/23/1123-ebola-in-columbus.html

  66. They were being monitored but the question is, were they isolated?
    Poor babies, I hope they respond to treatment.

  67. Alright, Alright What’s Up Here? NO NEWS?

    Giuliani: 93 Percent of BLACKS are KILLED BY BLACKS!

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/giuliani-ferguson-cop-black/2014/11/23/id/609109/?ns_mail_uid=93089972&ns_ma

  68. Ha! AZ has both IN and MA beat when it comes to the automation of trash pickups – We’ve had that for about eight or more years.

    This is a powerful statement
    Not one I’ve heard mentioned before – That he is asking every single public official who took the oath….to break the law with him. This could be the basis of the lawsuits being filed. (speaking of Soetoro, here)

    By proceeding, President Obama is not only breaching constitutional limits on his power, he is asking every single public official who took the oath to uphold the Constitution to break the law with him.”

    http://www.freedomworks.org/content/emperor-has-no-clothes

  69. CabbyAZ……..
    You are right on the money…..anybody who follows a person who they know is BREAKING THE LAW becomes an accessory to the offense.

  70. The R E A L Hillary……she’s only skin deep…..

    She has tried everyway to keep this from the American public….watch it will you can. For sure it will be scrubbed very soon.

  71. Good morning CW……
    What has become of Zach,and Pete?

  72. So I asked my Doctor, “Doctor, what are we going to do about this dangerous virus from Africa?”

    He said, “I don’t know, he has two more years in office.”

  73. Good morning RMINNC.
    Hope mother nature is looking down upon you more favorably than she is here, she is CRYING up a storm here.

  74. Honor First………
    “10-4”

  75. oldsailor82……

    It rained all day yesterday and into the night, but it appears to be turning out to be a nice morning…it’s62 by the way….will bet up to 71 expected.

  76. RMINNC………
    Good Morning sir.
    I would conclude that the video is going to get a hell of a lot of attention. Everybody should make copies as quickly as possible. I didn’t have much information regarding “Travelgate”,but now I do. There is only one reason why he was acquitted, it was ALL BULLSHI# orchestrated,and perpetrated by none other than Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.Clinton,who thinks that she is SOOOOOOOO SUPERIOR to all others,and everybody should kiss her STINKING FEET. In reality she is a NOTHING……..all she has ever been is the WIFE of a POTUS. She has NO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE,nor any other experience except being a LAWYER……and I would hasten to add a person of interest with regard to both Whitewater,and ultimately the death of Jim McDougal,and several other people as well.

  77. ……..but after all is said and done……..”What difference will it make”? Hmmmmmmm,where did I hear those words before?

  78. oldsailor82…..

    Have you noticed the striking similarity of looks between Chelsea and Webb Hubble?

    Kind of hard to hide that isn’t it?…Of course that is something NO one talks about….well maybe no one but me…lol

  79. GIVE VALERIE JARRET ANOTHER NOTCH ON HER GUN……
    SHE HAS PUT DOWN HEGAL NOW…NO ONE LEFT BUT OBAMA….

    When will Jarrett purge Obama now that she has no resistance any where else?….Is there any doubt in anyone’s mind that Jarrett is to be credited with the firing? of Hagel? Not in my mind.

  80. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I have a shameful confession to make:

    Bill Cosby raped me back in the early 80’s when I was young and vulnerable.

    I can’t remember how we met, but:

    He invited me back to his room, drugged me and took advantage of a defenseless me. I really don’t know what he did to me, being passed out and everything, but I am confident that something happened, or why else would he drug me?

    Of course I went back every time he called. I can’t be sure how long it went on, but it was for some time.

    I really don’t have a good reason for not coming out before now, but I assure you, I’m scarred for life!!

    Now where’s my money?

    I bet we all have a Cosby story don’t we?

  81. Interested Bystander

    olsailor82,

    What happened to William?

    William,

    If you still come and check out CW, I hope all is well with you. I hope your job search was short.

    I wish you and your family a Happy Thanksgiving, and an even better Christmas.

    I miss you.

  82. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Does anyone know what Zullo is saying as of now? Has he been on “Freedom Friday” lately?

    My thoughts are, depending in what he actually has (which isn’t much I would assume), I’m wondering why Zullo would not be held accountable for holding on to this evidence for at least 8 months now and probably longer?

    Takes away from his credibility, at least in my opinion.

  83. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I think I have a good idea,

    Maybe the verdict from the Grand jury should be released on The Jerry Springer Show?

    Put cops on one side of the stage, and the protesters on the other, release the verdict and then ding-ding-ding.

    I bet it would be great for ratings.

  84. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Am I the only one who thinks I’m warped?

    But seriously, If you can’t find a little humor in the world, life wouldn’t be worth living would it?

    What do you mean it’s not funny?

    I have feelings you know.

  85. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I’m out.

    Back to looking for a large airplane.

    Anyone seen it?

  86. The reason given for Obama fired Hagel was his handling of the ISIS situation……

    CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG…..but didn’t O’vomit demand his personal; approval of every airstrike against ISIS….now how in the hell can he hold Hagel responsible for the conduct of a war in which he has taken personal authority over?

    Perhaps O’vomit was getting heat from ISIS because in spite of him having to approve of EVERY strike….maybe, just maybe they were having success….. so he threw the Secretary of Defense under the bus…….

    I guess that’s better than throwing Val the Terminator (the de facto president) under the bus……..

  87. Must See TV: New Criminal Evidence
    Soon To Be Released; Sheriff Joe Arpaio

    Read more at http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/11/must-see-video-sheriff-joe-arpaios.html#zoxkGfYfplRZdHew.99

    The public has been put on notice of an upcoming press conference disclosing this new criminal evidence which has been characterized as “Universe Shattering” by lead investigator Mike Zullo of the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse. ho hum!

  88. Sheriff Joe Arpaio: I’ve Been Trying To Have
    Congressional Hearings On Obama ID Fraud

    Read more at http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/11/sheriff-joe-arpaio-ive-been-trying.html#BCSYOkXoYiCcrmzD.99

  89. If the Grand Jury comes back with an indictment against Wilson…we will know one thing for sure…….

    There is NO RULE of LAW in America…there is only MOB RULE…..and if we are to have Mob Rule….when will the White people take to the streets?

    Or will Mob Rule be conducted exclusively by the MINORITY?

    The white people should have already taken to the streets over this Black Knock out (game) against no race but Whitey………now if that isn’t PURE racism, what is?

  90. Interested Bystander

    Thanks Observer.

    Aren’t all of those vidoes except for the one of Sherriff Joe at the Tea Party thingy on Sept 20,2014 all over a year old?

    And the 9 minute infomercial just makes me steam more.

    Just tell us what you got, the media and the Congresspeople aren’t interested.

    Geesh, how many doors have to be slammed in your face before you realize that they don’t care.

  91. Grand Jury decision coming down shortly; hang on to your hats. I’m feeling ‘acquittal.’

    Jonah, prayers going up for your safety.

  92. Interested Bystander | November 24, 2014 at 7:28 pm |

    Hey IB,

    I understand your frustration; we’re all frustrated.

    Let me try to explain what a criminal investigation is all about: You have an accusation but your job is to *prove* that the charges are true. You investigate however, you find that many roadblocks are thrown in front of you; false witnesses and leads are planted to throw you off the track, threats to yourself and your family are made. If you’re lucky, you gather a mountain of stunning evidence you must sift through to try to determine if it’s real or a lie.

    In this case, you also have legal ramifications; this is not a two-bit thief we’re talking about. Remember that there’s only one shot to get this right; there won’t be another chance.

    If the media will not listen, do without them. Congress knows he’s a fraud; they ALL know however, they protect the usurper in order to protect themselves; when he’s exposed, so are they.

    You may be right; A/Z might just need to take this to the American people and let the chips fall where they may. There was no ‘media’ before the Revolutionary War and the people took care of the problem just fine. I think the American people are pis*ed enough to take matters into their own hands once the information is revealed, without the limp wristed Congress or the puppy press.

    The question is: Will we?? Do we have the intestinal fortitude to see this through to completion? It’s time to find out what we’re really made of.

  93. Glad the truth is out and the officer won’t be charged, but I think that hell will break loose quickly. I live in St. Louis City and the National Guard was sitting in the parking lot of my local Schnucks at Hampton Village.

  94. As I stated many times Officer Wilson was justified in using lethal force. If the people of Ferguson can’t get that through their heads, then it will happen again,and again,and again. When the people of Ferguson start helping law encorcement,instead of trying to impede officers they will have made the first step towards cleaning up their communities. In addition it is time for the alleged PEOPLE of Ferguson to wake up to REALITY,instead of living in their DRUGGED STUPORS,and/or their self fullfilling fantasylands. As McCulloch said there was BLATANT BULLSHI# being told to the Grand Jury,even under oath. Liars are just that,and as such UP is DOWN,and such people are seen through very quickly by the JURORS, as they sort out FACT from FANCY. Physical evidence does not LIE. I personally think that they found correctly,and with their hearts.

  95. The Rule of Law STANDS……Evidence does not support……MOB RULE is unhappy……sorry bout that….

    Out of this Fergeson thing, I have just one burning question:

    Are we as citizens getting to the point in our legal system, where when a white man justifiably kills a black man, we will have to go through this again, and again…over and over?

    Will we have to have the military called out to enforce our laws? When will the black people understand that this does nothing but bring into question the entire race !

    It is a FACT that 96% of the black people who get killed are killed by another black. Do you hear any outcry against that? Do you see organized protest against that? Do you see the destruction of property in those cases?

    NO YOU DO NOT.. only when a white person kills a black will you see that?
    WHY? Because they have been CONDITIONED to react that way by the likes of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and even Obama and Holder….the likes of these people are only to INCITE the black people in hopes that they can create a MOB RULE situation…..which will do nothing but bring more violence and death.

    If the white people rioted or demonstrated every time a black man killed a white man/ or woman, the press would refuse to cover it because it would be almost every day. NO, the white people still believe in the Rule of Law…..and the black people believe in MOB Rule……I will say, in all fairness that tonight, I saw some white people in that MOB. Does that make it right? No it doesn’t. The evidence and the facts are all that makes it right.

    Wilson shot that 18 year old kid with justification. If we ever forget that the police is here to protect everyone and uphold the laws he has sworn an oath to, then everyone is in trouble, and there will be no law.

  96. I just hope this hasn’t put a target on the backs of all white officers in Mo.

  97. ………when THE PEOPLE act, it will begin by the MEN BEING SEPARATED FROM THE BOYS. The CHILDREN will jump up and down,scream, and protest, pick their noses,and do some more drugs,and the MEN will silently pick up a rifle and do what needs to be done………there will be no screaming or protesting(except that which exits the mouths of the CRIMINALS),along with their last gasps for air,as they choke on their own blood. THE PEOPLE do not take such an action lightly…..it is a LAST RESORT,and is described in detail by the Declaration of Independence. So it is NOTHING NEW! Those who twist our laws, go outside of our laws,and or otherwise circumvent the Constitution,will feel the force of THE PEOPLE. It can end in only one way! Hopefully such law breakers,and criminal politicians will see the error of their ways ….SOON!

  98. RMINNC……..
    Great article sir.

  99. Bye bye, I will be able to sleep much better tonight………thank you GJ of MO. Even unloaded my rifle.

  100. —->>>All hell breaking out all over St. Louis, I-44 closed east and west with un-peacful protesters. Wal-Mart, Walgreens, and McDonalds burning in North County. Glad that I am safe at home with my car in the garage!!

  101. porterville63139, continue to stay safe and don’t venture out. Also, Jonah –
    be careful and watchful. What I’m seeing on TV is terrible. Fires are being set, multiple shots fired, and looting galore. These rabble rousers make me sick. They all ought to be rounded up and put to work cleaning up and repairing the damage they’ve done. There is just no excuse for this uncivilized, destructive behavior.

    Somehow the blacks think they have become some sort of privileged class above the law. The last few years they’ve been coddled way too much. Of course, the pResident told them tonight to be calm, because this country follows the rule of law. Have you ever heard such hypocrisy when he is the biggest lawbreaker of all? I believe enforcement is going to have to be applied, notwithstanding that Holder told the police to go easy. What more would we expect out of Holder?

  102. RMINNC……..
    Like the LA riots the St Louis BASTARDS will most likely stay at it for several days,and in the process destroy as much property as possible. Further at some point the LUNATICS will without a doubt try to find Officer Wilson,who I now believe has a PRICE on his head,put there by certain black people who occupy elected offices. Soon Ferguson will look like Detroit,in which there is lots of industrial space for lease, rent or sale.. One building after another has been vacated. Nothing left but weeds and cracked pavement.

  103. Jonah
    …..be very careful……those lunatics will use any excuse now to foment their insanity. I don’t know which side of the river you are on, and I don’t care to know,but I expect this to jump the river. If you are on the St.Charles side you are probably safer than most people, East of the river. At least I would be ready for them if that should happen. Best of luck!

  104. ……..to all concerned……
    …..the mindset of the alleged people of Ferguson is now so twisted that only a miracle will bring them to reality. The CRIMINAL BASTARDS will continue to burn,and pillage businesses in their community,but sadly all they will accomplish will be to cause even more unemployment,and property loss. In their TWISTED mentalities they believe they are justified. Now you see why they are where they are with regard to social station. Where is all of their anger when a BLACK murders one of their own? They COULD’NT CARE LESS, and it tells the TRUE story in STARK REALITY. Sooner or later America will be forced to deal with them in the way that they should have been dealt with in the beginning. While I do NOT BELIEVE IN VIOLENCE, there is a point where there is NOTHING LEFT except violence, and violence begets violence.

  105. The riots have started. The message from Blacks and the Obama supporters is now very clear. They want to be able to break the laws at will. They want to rob. They want to beat people for no reason or because they are white. They want to kill and murder. They don’t want to respect the police or law enforcement. They don’t want to respect the legal process. They don’t want to listen to truth or evidence. They believe they are ‘entitled’ to a ‘pass’ for all crimes because they are black, and Obama and Holder support this notion.

    A rational person would have been happy an animal, with no respect for property, people, or the law, had been removed from the streets. The evidence in favor of the officer was overwhelming, whom had been injured in the line of duty. God help those innocent families who are just in the way in Missouri.

  106. YESTERDAY I WROTE:

    “The Rule of Law STANDS……Evidence does not support……MOB RULE is unhappy……sorry bout that….

    Out of this Fergeson thing, I have just one burning question:

    Are we as citizens getting to the point in our legal system, where when a white man justifiably kills a black man, we will have to go through this again, and again…over and over?

    Will we have to have the military called out to enforce our laws? When will the black people understand that this does nothing but bring into question the entire race ! ”
    ——————————————————————————————————
    This morning, I read in my “ragsheet” the Charlotte Observer, where a 12 year old black boy was shot and killed by the police in Cleveland Ohio……

    The 12year old black kid was carrying a “pellet gun” , which looks like a real pistol, near a playground. A concerned citizen called the police and the police were not told it looked like a pellet gun.

    Normally a pellet gun has an orange cap in the barrel end of the weapon…this one didn’t. The police responded and told the kid to raise his hands. He reach for the pellet gun.

    End of story. All was caught on a camera. Police were justified in shooting.

    I guess now we will see Ohio burn, especially Cleveland, unless the policemen responding were black. I will bet three to one we have a repeat, much worse than Ferguson…..any takers?

  107. P,S.

    Can you imagine what Ferguson would look like this morning if Wilson HAD been indicted?

    These criminal black youth need NO EXCUSE or reason to burn, loot and kill…..they are criminals, plain and simple…….But try and deal with them and you will have a FEDERAL racial charge slapped against you.

    Our government is and has been ENCOURAGING this crap all over America by their support for MOB RULE…..

  108. THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE…A 5 MILLION DIFFERENCE…..

    People have been scouring the Internet in search of Obama’s Executive Order on Immigration, with no joy. They have been unable to find a copy of the Executive Order because NO such Executive Order actually exists.

    Amnesty by Executive Action?
    The American people were given the FALSE impression that Barack Obama was signing an EXECUTIVE ORDER providing amnesty for an estimated 4 million illegal immigrants residing in the United States.

    Presidential Executive Orders are designed for emergency circumstances wherein there is no time for congressional action, the circumstance falls under the legal authority of the Oval Office, and the order is designed to carry out the duties of the Federal government under the U.S. Constitution and existing U.S. laws.

    In the case of Obama’s recent Executive Action, THE ACTION IS NOT WITHIN THE LEGAL AUTHORITY OF THE OVAL OFFICE, it is not the result of any emergency circumstance of the United States, and it is not designed to carry out the sworn duties of the Federal government under the United States Constitution or U.S. laws. In fact, it is designed to subvert the U.S. Constitution and U.S. laws governing immigration and naturalization.

    As a result, Barack Obama did NOT issue an Executive Order. Instead, he used what is called EXECUTIVE ACTION, which has no force of law behind it, whatsoever. In doing so, Obama acted under “the color of office” to openly subvert and circumvent U.S. law.
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    If this news gets out….I guess we will have the Mexicans rioting in Arizona.

  109. IN YOUR FACE……

    A protestor in LOS ANGLES last night……please note he WAS NOT “in the face of the black officer”….but was intentionally taunting the white office hoping the white office would react…….

    How much $hit does the white population have to take from garbage like this? this prick didn’t know Brown and most likely had never been in Ferguson Mo.

  110. FACTS DON’T LIE……

    THIS IS A MIRROR OF WHAT AMERICA LOOKS LIKE TODAY……….

    Before Ferguson exploded in reaction to the August shooting of black teen Michael Brown by police officer Darren Wilson, the St. Louis police chief raised eyebrows when he called for the use of drones to monitor high-crime areas.

    The proposal was a response to what St. Louis police authorities called “subhuman, antisocial, urban terrorist” behavior by criminals.

    St. Louis also is home of the notorious “Knockout Game,” a random but racially motivated assault that has claimed at least six lives (all white). But no demonstrations, no riots, no judicial actions taken against the guilty, no nothing. it’s only a game, where the blacks take revenge against whitey.

    St. Louis is 44 percent white and 49 percent black, but statistics shows a racial imbalance in crime. Based on the city’s official crime data for 2012 — the most recent year which data are available — 97.6 percent of those arrested for murder were black and 2.4 percent were white. More than 82 percent of those arrested for serious crimes like murder, aggravated assault and larceny were black, while just 17.5 percent arrested were white

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/11/black-crime-explosion-americas-worst-city-revealed/#eaD2hdy47ilrbpVc.99
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    These are just the FACTS for the St Louis area…….At the rate we are going….America will LOOK and ACT like Nigeria by the year 2020….or before.

    Until the black community wakes up and sees what these black criminals are doing to them and then takes action to stop them…..nothing will change……. In FACT they will get much worse.

    But don’t hold your breath until they do.

  111. WAS A CRIME COMMITTED LAST NIGHT BY MICHAEL BROWN’S STEP FATHER?

    Michael Brown’s stepfather last night repeatedly urged protesters to “BURN THIS BITCH DOWN” after a prosecutor announced that no criminal charges would be filed against the Ferguson, Missouri police officer who killed the unarmed teenager.

    Louis Head, an ex-con who is married to Brown’s mother, Lesley McSpadden, was with McSpadden outside the Ferguson Police Department headquarters Monday evening as prosecutor Robert McCulloch disclosed that a grand jury declined to vote an indictment against Officer Darren Wilson in the August 9 shooting.

    After consoling a weeping McSpadden, the 38-year-old Head–who was standing atop a platform in the middle of the agitated crowd of several hundred protesters–began screaming “Burn this bitch down!” He did this at least TEN TIMES , and at one point yelled for a microphone so that he could broadcast his message beyond the range of his unamplified voice.
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    Is inciting a riot and the destruction of private property still a crime in America?

    I am now watching FOX and they continue to INCITE….when will all this $HIT end?

    Would they be satisfied if Wilson was placed in front of a public firing squad and shot?…

    I don’t think so….I would think that someone still OWES them something….

  112. Pete………
    I would add ……that a lot of them need to wash their stinking a$$es. According to the snotnosed little high school white sluts,all the protestors are “COOL MAN”…………REALLY COOL!

  113. Nobody had any doubts this was coming and that burning and looting would follow (excuse for grabbing “free” stuff). Totally amazed nobody was killed. The police must have been advised to take abuse yet not respond in kind. Blacks are being played by Obummer and Holder to act out (with little fear of consequences) for some unholy reason of their own which we can only speculate about.

  114. …..ALL THE morons ACCOMPLISHED IS THEY PUT ANOTHER 126 PEOPLE OUT OF WORK, LARGELY THEIR OWN PEOPLE and financially ruined a lot more of their own people. Hope they have a great holiday season. Of course maybe they can use some of the stolen merchandise for Christmas presents among themselves. Mc Donalds,and Walmart also suffered damage. Obviously MOTOR MOUTH AL was enjoying himself at the family news meeting…….Really who even gives a damn about such human SLIME.

  115. Interested Bystander

    Kiltie,

    I have seen a report that stated someone was shot and killed around where Brown was shot. The report went on to say that the body was burned.

  116. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    What these folks in Ferguson are doing is proving Grubber right.

    Stupid

    I know he wasn’t talking about me, or those on this blog, because I didn’t vote for Obama, and I contacted all three of my representatives to express my opinion on the Affordable Care Act.

    Grubber wasn’t “selling” me anything. I think all of us here saw right through this whole administration.

  117. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    So am I correct in stating that Brown’s “real” dad asked for peace, and his STEP dad got up on that podium last night and INCITED a riot by yelling “Let’s burn this MFer down”?

    Why hasn’t HE been arrested and held accountable for the actions that HE incited?

    Well that wouldn’t help the situation, now would it?

  118. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I’ll comment, this isn’t over.

    Holder is still investigating Wilson.

    There won’t be a trial for Wilson, so when Holder comes out and states that Wilson was justified in his actions, it’ll be another reason to go out and get some free stuff.

  119. Last night there was rioting in 58 cities having nothing to do with Ferguson or the brown situation…….With all this racial problems sprouting up all across America…..does anyone besides me get the idea that WE THE PEOPLE are being set up for MARTIAL LAW ?…….

    Why else would those protecting us 9the federal government) be out there inciting the racial divide. For example, HOLDER is now speaking saying nothing. He’s praising the “good” protestors….just how in the hell does he tell the good protestors from the bad protestors……..they are both doing the same thing……..

    “BURNING THE MOTHER$UCKER DOWN” as spoken by the father-in-law of the brown kid.

    I think we are being played…played by the black people, and played by our own government and I smell MARTIAL LAW coming…….for everyone, both BLACK and WHITE.

  120. IB……hello friend…….you said,

    “There won’t be a trial for Wilson, so when Holder comes out and states that Wilson was justified in his actions, it’ll be another reason to go out and get some free stuff”…….

    It is very, very doubtful that Eric holder would ever say that……HOLDER along with OBAMA want to put Wilson in jail to appease the blacks that know that Wilson was justified in shooting the “jolly giant” that was charging him like a mad bull……

    NO Holder would never say that Wilson was JUSTIFIED in his actions…..

  121. Interested Bystander

    RMinNC,

    Holder may not SAY it, maybe they’ll wait until Holder leaves.

    Or maybe they’ll simply put out a release on a Friday evening stating as much.

    And I realize that nothing is as it seems with this bunch, but Holder would have NO CHOICE but to find that Wilson was justified in his actions.

  122. WHY ARE WHITE PEOPLE AFRAID TO SAY WHAT THEY ARE THINKING?
    WHY ARE BLACK PEOPLE ACTING OUT WHAT THEY ARE THINKING?

    WHY IS ALL THIS RACIAL TENSION HAPPENING AT THIS TIME?

  123. PLANNED…TARGETED…MAYHAM…..that pretty well explains exactly what is happening, and being allowed to happen across our nation…….

    SHAME…SHAME…SHAME….on all who are responsible.

  124. IB……..but Holder would have NO CHOICE but to find that Wilson was justified in his actions.

    it wouldn’t be the first time Holder has IGNORED the law and put race above everything else.

    So If I were you……..I WOULDN’T BET ON IT.

  125. Michael Brown weighted 289 pounds and stood 6 foot, 5 inches……Officer Wilson weighed 210 pounds and stood 6″4 inches…….

    This 18 year old “kid” was “no kid”…….Officer Wilson was justified in his actions….

  126. Didn’t the people in Ferguson complain about how the police and National Guard was in their face so what is it their problem. It seems that the police or the National Guard can’t do anything right.

  127. TRUDY…….

    That’s part of the game……the ‘good’ people can’t ever do anything right according to the scumbags out there rioting and burning and “mouthing” off like Al Sharpton, Obama and Holder who are playing the crowd for all they are worth……

    ANARCY is right around the corner…compliments of your Federal government.

  128. Most everyone who post here at Citizenwells are old enough to remember the Vietnam War…..most everyone remembers the riots and civil disturbance that occurred during that time….

    I remember the second time I came back from Vietnam…..the riots were in full swing….the slogan driving the unrest was ‘Hell No, We won’t Go” ….I remember all the flower children and their expression of ‘peace’…..above the smell of “wacky weed”……..

    Now I feel I have come full circle…….we are experiencing civil unrest over a ‘hoodlum’ who was shot while trying to ‘take out’ a law enforcement officer….the only difference I see in this and 1968 is that this is a “black organized, black lead, and black inspired” civil unrest……

    There is no doubt in my mind all this has been PROGRAMMED, PLANNED AND EXECUTED at the highest levels of our government……for one purpose…….to put Obama in office FOR LIFE.

  129. What really got to me last night while watching the TV, was the apparent absence of any really effective resistance from the law officers. They just seemed to “stand down” quite a bit, and I believe that was in response to Holder’s admonition to go easy on the offenders.

    The black mob resorted to the basest of instincts – goon-type destruction and completely uncivilized behavior. They are not far removed from the jungle where their roots originated.

    We are becoming more lawless each day. Is it little wonder considering the individual that sits in the W.H.? He is the very epitome of lawlessness. The citizenry can hardly rise above that which sets the tone for the country.

  130. I STILL LOVE HER…EVEN WITH ALL OF HER PROBLEMS…

    And I guess I always will.

  131. Good night all…and God Bless America

  132. Reported tonight: About 1400 of our finest citizens (most likely college kids) tried to block the Southeast Expressway in Boston to ‘protest’ the GJ’s verdict in Ferguson.

    Now, we’re expecting a pretty good snow dump on Wednesday (winter storm warnings are posted; first of the season), just in time to screw up Thanksgiving travel. Like many other municipalities, our snowplows plow in ‘tandem’ on the major arteries and in light of the weather, they’re ready to go.

    It was suggested that we allow the ‘protesters’ to take to the SE Expressway then, send out the plows. If they intend to block a major artery in the city, that roadway needs to be open and cleared of debris.

    Terrible idea? Maybe, but an act of civil disobedience does not include shutting down a major roadway when there’s a storm coming and people are trying to get somewhere for Thanksgiving. Go sit your sorry butts down in front of City Hall and protest; bring a sign while you’re at it….maybe they’ll put you on the news and make your parents proud that they raised a bunch of morons.

    Also, the rioters in Ferguson did not riot to protest a verdict in the killing of a thug; their only purpose in doing it was to get free stuff.

    End rant.

    Happy Thanksgiving CW and all CWers 🙂

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