J. Christian Adams, Miracle in Virginia, An Unexpected and Unusual Ordination of a Priest, Father Rich Dyer

J. Christian Adams, Miracle in Virginia, An Unexpected and Unusual Ordination of a Priest, Father Rich Dyer

From Family Security Matters January 31, 2012.

“This is a true story about Rich Dyer, a Virginia man who never expected to become a priest, but became one sooner than he expected. Dyer, 48, left behind a successful career in business after hearing a calling to the priesthood.

Some of you don’t believe in miracles, and others are certain they exist. But, this is a story for the multitudes who still wonder. C.S. Lewis, in Surprised by Joy, his autobiography of his journey from atheism to faith said, “You may take any number of wrong turnings; but keep your eyes open and you will not be allowed to go very far before the warning signs appear.”

Naturally, it would be easy if bushes regularly burned and spoke, erasing all doubt. But revelations so cheap and easy, dispense with human freewill. How difficult would moral choices be when faith has no role? If the answers were so obvious, goodness and grace would not be human choices, but rather servile obedience to a revealed omnipotent.

Instead of miracles, many have experienced a weighty and unmistakable synchronicity, where seemingly impossible events occur. Answered prayers fall into this category. But so do smaller revelations, joyous moments when blessings reveal themselves in hindsight, blessings that once seemed ordinary, or even dreadful. Those who have experienced this weighty synchronicity know there is no such thing as a coincidence.

C.S. Lewis described moments of revelations as being “surprised by joy.” Sometimes they are as gentle as an unseen sparrow’s song that reminds you spring has arrived. Other times, they are as bold and unforgettable as a grand pastel sunset.

Last December, the unusual ordination of Father Rich Dyer took place in Virginia.

For those unfamiliar with the Catholic priesthood, a brief aside. Holy orders, when a priest is ordained, is one of the seven Catholic sacraments. Seminarians study for years before being ordained. Beyond study, seminarians seek to discern whether they are truly called to the priesthood. After they complete their studies, conclude that they are committed to the vocation, and are called to orders by their local bishop, priests are ordained by the bishop of the diocese. In the Diocese of Arlington (Virginia), this occurs in June of each year in a celebratory mass. Canon law vests the bishop with authority to alter the date of the ordination, but use of this power is not common.

In the summer of 2011, Rich Dyer learned that his father was sick with cancer. His fellow seminarians asked him if he considered asking Bishop Paul Loverde for special permission to be ordained early.

The week before his December finals at Mt. St. Mary’s Seminary in Maryland, Dyer had his regular meeting with a representative of Bishop Loverde. He wondered if anyone had ever been ordained ahead of schedule. He wrote to Bishop Loverde: “I seek God’s will. I do not know what His will is regarding the date of my priestly ordination, but I know and trust that He speaks through you. I am not asking that you accelerate my ordination date, only that you prayerfully discern God’s will regarding it and then communicate this will to me.”

It appeared to Dyer, and anybody else, that a December ordination was impossible, and January was unlikely because the bishop would be in Rome. An early ordination, if it were to occur, could only be in February.

Then on Tuesday, December 20, Dyer received a telephone call. The bishop had read and considered the letter. Dyer was given the choice to be ordained as regularly scheduled on June 9, 2012, or, if Dyer wished to be ordained earlier, the Bishop was available … the following Tuesday, December 27.

Being the feast of St. John the Apostle, December 27, was a special day to Dyer. For years, his computer’s screen saver had a quote from St. John – “Perfect love drives out fear” (1 John 4:18).Dyer did not come to the priesthood the traditional way. He obtained a degree in electrical engineering from Notre Dame, and joined the Air Force on graduation. After the Air Force, he returned to Notre Dame and received a masters degree in business. He went on to a successful career as an executive with an independent power producer in Virginia before hearing a calling to become a priest. “I had a great life, but I knew I was called to the priesthood, even if sometimes I didn’t want to do it,” Dyer told me by telephone.

Bishop Loverde ordained Dyer as a priest in a ceremony at St. Andrew the Apostle Church in Clifton, Virginia on December 27. His father Richard Dyer was at the ordination.

The next day, December 28, Dyer celebrated his first mass at St. Andrews, a mass which began at 11:00 a.m. His father, meanwhile, was with two family friends miles away. As Father Dyer said mass, the two friends taking care of his father noticed the elder Dyer’s breathing became heavy and labored. They adjusted him in the bed and “he became alert,” Father Dyer told me.

The family friends reported Richard Dyer “seemed to be looking at things all around the room, his eyes moving all around,” looking at things that nobody else could see. While the friends then prayed aloud around Richard Dyer, and his son continued celebrating mass miles away, the elder Dyer hushed their prayers. “I’m trying to listen to it,” he told them.

The friends continued their prayers in silence before one of them came to the elder Dyer’s bedside, held his hand, and prayed that the Holy Spirit come and take the elder Dyer home. The friend’s eyelids began to flutter uncontrollably, his body began to shake, and he became very warm as he felt something like an energy pass through him to the elder Dyer. The elder Dyer’s face became very peaceful as he looked to the ceiling and asked for his wife before saying, “I have to go now,” Richard Dyer said, and then died. The elder Dyer died at 12:05 pm just as his eldest son finished celebrating his first Mass.

Not far away, the son of the friends watching the elder Dyer was playing outside. This now-healthy child had been cured of a rare form of cancer. Richard Dyer had prayed for just such a cure for the boy. Looking up at a break in the clouds, at the rays of the sun, the boy said aloud to his companions, “I think Mr. Dyer just went to the Lord.”

It is beyond our capability to say with certainty what these events mean. But one thing is certain, these events occurred. They occurred not on the pages of a dusty storybook, or in a fable passed through generations. They occurred in Virginia, just a few weeks ago.

Some will reflexively suggest worldly explanations. They will afford no possibility other than the laws of science, and random chance when those laws prove inadequate. Others, like the “mouse chasing the cat,” have experienced the awe of stumbling into a new understanding, of unintentionally running into the cat.

Next June, the Bishop of Arlington will assign Father Dyer to a parish somewhere in Northern Virginia. Father Dyer didn’t expect to find himself where he is now, or will be next June. “I’m rather shy,” he told me. For people who wonder, who question whether something guides our course, perhaps there is something in the contemporary story of one shy, already successful, 48 year old man becoming a priest, and how it happened.

FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor J. Christian Adams is an election attorney who served in the Voting Rights Section at the U.S. Department of Justice. He is author of the bestselling book Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department (Regnery) His website is http://www.electionlawcenter.com.”

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.11330/pub_detail.asp

 

98 responses to “J. Christian Adams, Miracle in Virginia, An Unexpected and Unusual Ordination of a Priest, Father Rich Dyer

  1. Good Morning CW. Excellent post!!!

  2. Interested Bystander

    GREAT article CW.

    Good morning.

  3. As the world seems to be collapsing in chaos it is wonderful to read an article filled with faith and joy. Thank you. I am continuing to pray for Judge Malihi, SOS Kemp and the voters in Florida. (:

  4. Good Zach, et al & of course Florida.
    Once the FL primary takes place, BO can be challenged there.

  5. Good article CW…..

    God work in mysterious ways………..only the non-believer sees no value in a story like this.

  6. Good Morning ,
    Yes, Pray for Judge Mahili.

    I saw this over at Gateway Pundit…….

    CATHOLIC BISHOPS Slam Obama’s Assault on Religious Freedom

    Last week Cardinal-designate Timothy Dolan lashed out at the Obama Administration for forcing religious organizations to go out into the marketplace and buy a product that violates their conscience. The new rules are so strict that most Catholic institutions will not qualify for an exemption.

    READ MORE…….
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/01/catholic-church-slams-obamas-assault-on-religious-freedom-in-parishes-across-the-country/

  7. John in Illinois

    Peter Boyles on Khow radio in Denver has been talking about the Georgia Court case for 2 days now.

  8. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Thank you CW for that moving and inspiring story. I think it is good to have some religion added to our lives. I have to admit that with the country’s situation, I have been doing a little more praying(not preying) at night.
    GOD BLESS ALL

  9. And pray for Judge Malihi too. 🙂

  10. Thanks Zach.
    Your timing is perfect.

  11. “Web host shuts down site twice, promises to migrate, then leaves customer in the lurch”

    “Due to high traffic on both January 20 and 26 after Atty. Orly Taitz announced breaking news regarding the Georgia ballot challenges, The Post & Email’s web host, GoDaddy LLC, shut the site down without warning.
    We worked quickly to hire a website developer to optimize the site and restore the twice-daily news alerts which had stopped working. He began work almost right away and was about to start the optimization process when GoDaddy shut the site down for the second time.
    Although both the website developer and I contacted GoDaddy immediately and explained the steps we were taking to correct any overages, GoDaddy refused to turn the site back on. It made no difference that tens of thousands of readers were depending on the newspaper to report accurately, quickly, and in detail the breaking news of the day, which is vital in these days of the Obama regime.
    … In a three-way conference call, GoDaddy told us that it would take up to 72 hours to prepare the server and that they would migrate the site content from the old server to the new. However, on the third day, they changed their story and said it was the website developer’s job to migrate the content.
    He attempted to do so and after three hours stated that he was unfamiliar with their server, deferring to GoDaddy to do it. GoDaddy then put The Post & Email at the end of another 72-hour queue. I asked to speak with a supervisor and did so, but nothing changed. Later on January 29, the word from GoDaddy was that the migration had not even been started yet.
    …If we cannot get past this hurdle, The Post & Email will close, which is exactly what our enemies want.”

    http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2012/01/web-host-shuts-down-site-twice-promises.html

  12. Thanks Gordo,

    I was wondering what was going on with the Postandemail.

    Nothing seems to amaze me anymore.

  13. FYI — http://obamaballotchallenge.com/blogsphere-casualties-from-the-atlanta-ballot-hearings

    Blogsphere Casualties from The Atlanta Ballot Hearings

    Posted by By GeorgeM at 31 January, at 10 : 07 AM Print
    Blogsphere Casualties from The Atlanta Ballot Hearings

    Huge interest in the Atlanta Obama Ballot hearings and the heightened interest in the movement, in general, has causd web capacity problems for quite a few sites. We have been down and up for days, now upgrading server and security (thanks for your patience and persistence). In spite of that, we have scads of new (free) subscribers and high traffic even now.

    Article II PAC had nearly 218,000 people watching the livestream video, so forgive them for a few hiccups. We paid plenty, ending up with $$thousands in web streaming bills, but the art2 site gateway was the constraining factor.

    But thePostEmail.com site really had it really bad. They were also knocked offline, but their site hosting company, GoDaddy deliberately shut them down multiple times, even though they had the capacity to bear the peak load, letting them down at a very crucial time. Bottom line- they are being forced off GoDaddy, which is being very uncooperative in facilitating the migration. Arlen Williams over at gulagbound.com has magnanimously provided Sharon Rondeau’s temporary home for The Post & EMail, an awesome publication and HUGE friend of the eligibility challenge movement.

    Sharon reports that the biggest movement success in four years has resulted in nearly bankrupting her lean and mean operation. Those of you who read P&EM know that Sharon is not just a casual blogger, but an excellent journalist, who has chronicled the movement since its inception. We don’t want to see it fold.

    Please find it in your hearts (and wallets) to cough up some rapidly depreciating fiat currency , while it’s still worth anything, for subscriptions, contributions, or whatever …….

  14. I.B.,

    Good Morning.

    Did you have to work last night?

  15. When Godaddy first started their commercials on tv, I had no clue what they were advertising, but one of their first ads was sick, as far as i’m concerned. It showed people kind of slithering around each other in a sexual context. It gave the impression of a free for all, no matter what sex.

    Not approriate for viewers IMHO.

  16. It appears to me that Mitt will take Florida hands down, which of course was expected. However, this speaks volumes for future interpretation. Newt was aware (in my opinion) his chances to gain the delegates was null from the onset. Ron Paul also was aware of this, as he is focusing on Nevada.

  17. August 2011:

    “Former Obama adviser joins Go Daddy”

    SCOTTSDALE, AZ (KPHO) –

    “A former adviser to the Obama White House has joined Go Daddy’s “Do the Right Thing” team. Former D.C. attorney Andrew Kline started work at Go Daddy on Monday, as the new Deputy General Counsel for Global Policy.

    One-third of the Internet currently runs through Go Daddy’s servers.”

    http://www.kpho.com/story/15186778/former-obama-advisor-joins-go-daddy

  18. Gordo – Didn’t Larry Sinclair and a few others have problems with Go Daddy back in 2008? Obama’s menions are everywhere.

  19. The Post & Email site needs to transfer their domain to another web hosting company like HostGator located in TX. GoDaddy is pure evil, having supported SOPA only after they secured their own waiver.

  20. Zach.
    Correct

  21. “Larry Sinclair book, GoDaddy.com, Copyright infringement, disgusting websites, GoDaddy allows illegal activities, Vicious attacks on Sinclair and others”

    “GoDaddy.com, a website hosting service, has allowed disgusting websites to continue vicious attacks against Larry Sinclair and many others. They are now allowing copyright infringement of Larry Sinclair’s new book, “Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair, Cocaine, Sex, Lies & Murder?”. Larry Sinclair has corresponded with GoDaddy on numerous occassions and informed them of the illegal activity. GoDaddy.com has no excuse for taking no action.

    Is the management of GoDaddy.com so entrenched with, so in bed with the Obama camp that they ignore the laws of this country. If they are, that makes sense. It is consistent with the policies and attitudes of Barack Obama.”

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/larry-sinclair-book-godaddy-com-copyright-infringement-disgusting-websites-godaddy-allows-illegal-activities-vicious-attacks-on-sinclair-and-others/

  22. Just thinking off the cuff here,

    If research could be shown that major internet provider companies are bias and discriminative towards news – based upon political content, wouldn’t that be grounds for a lawsuit and a need for a media attorney group?

    Just thinking,

  23. An example,

    If any Muslim internet news outlet faced the same, CAIR would be all over it and would be sitting in court as we speak.

  24. VERY important info…..listen up folks…..

    Jim Sinclair audio interview – MUST LISTEN – Greek default imminent?

    Breaking News Ellis Martin Report with Jim Sinclair

  25. US intelligence warns Iran poised to conduct terror attacks in US
    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/31/us-intelligence-warns-iran-poised-to-conduct-terror-attacks-in-us/

    Ok Ron Paul, now what?

  26. I just read where the COUNCIL ON AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS have been instrumental in the cancellation of a speech Lt. General (three stars) Jerry Boykin was to give at a prayer breakfast at the United States Military Academy in West Point, New York next week.

    General Boykin, a highly decorated soldier, and former Commander of Special Operations Cmd, has always been an outspoken critic of Islam, and the extremist this political/religion breeds. General Boykin has never hesitated to tell of the dangers Islam presents to the free world.

    As a retired military officer, I am appalled that our military leaders would cower under the pressure of CAIR, and other liberal Islamic organizations and cancel the message General Boykin would have delivered to the Corp of Cadets. A message they will desperately need in the environment they will soon inherit.

    An old axiom that any military man first learns of history says, “KNOW THY SELF, BUT KNOW THY ENEMY BETTER”.

    If the American people continues to turn a blind eye to the dangers of Islam, one day her citizens will awaken to a call from the prayer towers.

    Then everyone in this great land will be require to face the East and pay homage and total submission to a god not of their liking.

    The purpose of Islam is and always has been TOTAL domination of the person and his country, both politically and spiritually. Their battle cry is SUBMIT or DIE.

    I pray to my God that I am not around when this happens to America.

  27. Honor First,

    Ron Paul would do very little in my opinion. Not that that would be any different than Obama at this time.

    Isolationism is very dangerous. In fact, after WWI the United States did exactly that, went into Isolationism. Unfortunately, because of doing so – Lead to WWII…..!!!

    But I also agree that if America is not serious about stopping threats and stomping some arse and ending the threat to America, then we don’t need to send our troops in harms way, for nothing. That’s just stupidity and ideologue.

  28. Here’s the story rminnc | January 31, 2012 at 11:20 am | referred to. Beat me to it!:

    CAIR pressures retired general, critic of Islam, to back out of West Point event

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/31/cair-pressures-retired-general-critic-of-islam-to-back-out-of-west-point-event/#ixzz1l3OAv8m3

    It’s getting so that each day brings more in your face challenges to our freedoms and most of all to the truth. I know more good conservatives who think O will be in for another term because of the money control and the thugs’ reaction to any challenge to keep him off the ballot completely. Whatever happens it won’t last long….the air will be eventually cleared of the evil/lies….and the new era will begin. Meanwhile buckle your seatbelts and get ready for that bumpy ride/persecution that has already begun.

  29. RminNC,

    Well Stated! You could not have said it any better.

    I just got through watching Gen. Petraeus (Ret) give his congressional testimony and supportive report on the Middle East threats. They are real, they are against the United States, they are going nowhere.

  30. Interesting and rather amazing….what we don’t know on this side:

    http://spiritdaily.com/corcoran.htm

    THOSE WHO ‘GLIMPSE’ ETERNITY RETURN WITH NEW PERSPECTIVE — AND EVEN ELECTRICAL EFFECTS

    The other day we linked to an article from a newspaper in North Carolina detailing the career of a woman who has been both a nurse and army colonel, tending to the wounded and dying in our wars. She served in both Viet Nam and “Desert Storm.”

    It was more than forty years ago that this nurse, Diane Corcoran, realized something fascinating was occurring with many of the soldiers. In close brushes with death — at times, experiencing actual clinical death — their conscious minds seemed to have gone to another place, what she and we call “the other side” of the veil.

    In those forty years, Diane Corcoran, who’s now president of the International Association for Near-Death Studies in Durham, on the campus of Duke University, has encountered many hundreds of cases. Overall, not counting children and the elderly, thirty million Americans have had such episodes at some level, Corcoran estimates. At one recent conference, three hundred attended.

    In the cases where there is little memory of what occurred, she said, she can spot it due to tell-tale changes in the person who had brushed up against the other side.

    When they “come back,” she says, they suddenly lack all interest in the material, disregard the clock (there is no time in eternity), and are altruistic: set on “doing things for others.”

    “They don’t have the same concerns for money and time,” Diane told us. “They suddenly have drives and passions that are more important than making money — something that can be difficult for the wife to accept. They have great altruism and often want to leave their professions. I think the ones that are incredibly interesting are the children,” she adds — especially the instances whereby, as in one, a child was able to describe grandparents who had died in Europe years before. She also recalled a priest who had “died” and returned and had an entirely elevated perspective. “He went to the other side and many times they’re given a purpose and one of the last messages is a purpose of love and forgiveness,” she emphasizes. “He was surprised.”

    In another case, she was called to the hospital bedside of a doctor who had gone through the “tunnel” and seen the field with indescribable colors and flowers but whose experience was being discounted by fellow medical practitioners. Nobody, she says, is prepared to deal with these experiences — often leaving the person who had a clinical death in a state of confusion and isolation — until they meet others who have had tellingly identical encounters. The “last holdouts” in belief, she says, are doctors, who as scientists still fight to explain the experiences in medical terms.

    Some of the aftereffects, she claims, include bizarre phenomena — as if the electro-dynamic field around a person is changed from the experience, at least in certain instances.

    Colonel Corcoran says she has seen cases where people who “return” cause electronic effects on computers, can’t wear battery watches, and cause light bulbs to flicker. During one near-death conference, she says, the hotel’s computer system inexplicably crashed. Far out? Occult? Or a simple electro-dynamism of which we know nothing? “They also seem to be hypersensitive to medicine and detergents,” Diane, who in constantly on the road, adds matter-of-factly.

    While we expressed concern that many such people later tend to wander into the New Age, Diane asserts that in her experience the majority stay away from occult beliefs, tending back to the religion in which they were raised (albeit now more active as believers) and looking more at the spiritual than the institutional or “legalistic” side of religion.

    One man expressed utter disdain for television commercials and the over-reliance of modern society on technology.

    Cooperating with nature — God’s Creation — becomes a prime concern.

    A famous glimpse of eternity occurred, as he neared death, to the great Catholic theologian, St. Thomas Aquinas — who afterward halted all theological writing to concentrate on the spiritual.

    There are a good number of near-death episodes whereby the person believes he or she has glimpsed future events — so much so that her organization plans a conference devoted to prophecy this summer. Like so many in Catholic and other Christian circles, Diane sees climate shifts and increasingly severe storms as signs of coming times. “Yet I’m always optimistic,” she says, “because we’re all in it for the lesson.”

    [see also: Nurse who was colonel became expert on near-death experiences]

    [resources: The Other Side]

  31. Again in moderation at 12:05 help please and thanks.

  32. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Whenever Religion is the main theme of the post and West Point is brought up, I find this story most fitting at this time –

    A Wonderful Story

    Several years ago I was sitting around thinking of my youth and all of a sudden the song “Jesus Loves Me” came into my head. I always loved this song in Sunday School and through the years I suddenly notice I don’t hear it. I went to the computer and googled up “Jesus Loves Me” and it came up with the writer being Anna B. Warner. I did a wikipedia on her and got the Constitution Island Ass’n. Here is the story –

    The Life of Anna Warner

    In 1944, John Hersey wrote an article for The New Yorker entitled “Survival.” This was the story, told to him by John F. Kennedy, concerning the rescue of Kennedy and his crew after their PT boat was destroyed in the Solomons. After being stranded several days on an island, Kennedy and his men were discovered by two natives Through the efforts of these natives, who led a rescue boat to the island, the men were saved. Hersey concludes his dramatic account with this anecdote: “Johnston (one of the rescued men) retired topside and sat with his arms around a couple of roly poly, mission-trained natives. And in the fresh breeze on the way home they sang together a hymn all three happened to know:

    “Jesus loves me, this I know,
    For the Bible tells me so:
    Little ones to Him belong.
    They are weak,
    but He is strong.
    Yes, Jesus loves me;
    yes, Jesus loves me . . . . ”

    To Hersey’s readers, in the midst of World War II, these well-known words with their simple expression of faith must have had a special meaning. This familiar hymn, carried all over the world by nineteenth century missionaries, has long been a part of the Christian education of many children. The simple words and lilting tune are easily learned and thus make it a great favorite in Sunday school classes for young children. No doubt, it was this same simplicity that made it so popular with the missionaries for, apparently, once learned, it is never forgotten. Therefore, it is not so surprising that it should pop up as a common bond between the American sailors and the Solomon Island natives.

    Jesus Loves Me first appeared in a novel, Say and Seal, published in 1860.

    The book was co-authored by Susan and Anna Warner, and the hymn itself was written by Anna. In Say and Seal the hymn was sung to a little boy who was very ill by his beloved school teacher and friend. The child-like faith expressed in the words were inspired by Anna’s own profound faith in God. The two Warner sisters were writers who enjoyed great popularity during the latter half of the nineteenth century. Today their books are unread and out of print, but the two women, themselves, are not forgotten.

    Susan and Anna Warner ARE THE ONLY CIVILIANS buried in the military cemetery at West Point. Their life long home on Constitution Island, directly across the river from West Point is maintained as a museum. The story of how this all came about is a charming vignette in the long history of the United States Military Academy.

    The year following the purchase of the island, Mr. Warner suffered severe financial losses in the “Panic of 1837″. In 1838 the beautiful town house was sold and the family moved to Constitution Island. Here, Anna wrote, they would “live out our lives, fighting the fight, wrestling with sorrow, gathering up the joy—”. She concluded: “How little discernment a buyer has at first as to the capabilities of his new purchase! For what “palace” could ever have been as dear to us as our old Revolutionary nondescript house?”

    Anna was thirteen years old and Susan eighteen when they came to the island to live. Young Anna, as she roamed the island, picking wild flowers, exploring the sites of old Revolutionary forts and rowing on the river, barely realized the financial difficulties of her father. Shortly after their move to Constitution Island, Mr. Warner became involved in lengthy litigation with his neighbors on the east bank over his property rights; a litigation which he finally lost. he next decade saw the little family reduced to desperation and faced with eviction; their beloved island property in the hands of a receiver.

    Here is a follow up
    Miss Warner’s Boys

    In 1875 the opportunity came for Susan and Anna Warner to communicate their faith to the cadets at West Point. At the request of several cadets, Susan began a Bible class for them on Sunday afternoons in the Cadet Chapel. Anna tells us:, “The first day, there was a very large gathering, curiosity helping on the numbers. After that, it varied from week to week, as must be always, I suppose; especially among Cadets, where guard duty sometimes interferes; and where Sunday is the free day for seeing friends.”

    “At home, in the summer, they met in our tent near the house, the forage caps tossed out upon the grass; the gray figures in all sorts of positions in and out of the tent”.

    Following is a vivid account of these classes written by a former cadet and published in 1925 by Olivia Phelps Stokes in her biography of the sisters.

    “The visits to Constitution Island were regarded as a great privilege, for not only did they make a break in the severe routine of the daily life but they enabled the boys to roam further a field than was possible at the Academy, where the restrictions of the cadet limits were pretty irksome to boys accustomed to the free run of the town or country. So the privilege of going to Constitution Island as one of “Miss Warner’s boys” was eagerly sought and highly prized. Every Sunday afternoon during the summer encampment the sisters would send their elderly man of all work after the favored ones. He pulled the old flat-bottomed boat across the river to the West Point dock, where the boys with the coveted permits were wailing for him. Usually the trip back was accompanied with more or less excitement, for the boat was always loaded to the last inch of its carrying capacity.

    Miss Susan Warner awaited her guests in the orchard. She always sat in the same big chair supported by many cushions. She was a frail little woman with a long face deeply lined with thought and care, lighted with large, dark very brilliant eyes. As she sat in her chair with the boys in a semi-circle around her on the grass she looked like a print from Godey’s Lady’s Book of half a century before. She always wore silk dresses of a small flowered pattern, made with voluminous skirts of wonderful stiffness, and rustle, and small close fitting bodices. A rich Paisley shawl was always around her shoulders and a broad black velvet ribbon was bound around her hair, which was only slightly gray.

    After each of the boys had read a Bible verse. Miss Warner, choosing her subject from some New Testament text, talked to them for perhaps half an hour until her enthusiasm and interest had obviously almost exhausted her small strength. Her English was the best and purest I have ever heard, and as she went on and her interest grew her eyes shone, like stars and her voice became rich and warm. There was never any cant or sectarianism, and she always gave to the boys the brightest and most optimistic side of the faith she loved so well. When she had finished and lay back pale and weary against her cushions her sister. Miss Anna, came down from the house with the rare treat of the whole week, tea and homemade ginger-bread. After that the two sisters and the boys talked over the things of the world that seemed so far from that peaceful quiet orchard. The boys confided their aims and ambitions, and the sisters in the simplest, most unostentatious way sought to implant right ideals and principles. Miss Warner never forgot any of her boys, and up to the time of her death kept up a correspondence with many of them. This correspondence must have been voluminous, for it embraced men in every branch of the service, and included alike distinguished officers and cadets who had failed. . . “

    After the death of Susan Warner in 1885, Anna continued the Bible classes for cadets. Each week Buckner, her “elderly man of all work” would row her over to West Point to teach her Cadet Bible Class. She always brought with her individual nosegays of flowers from her garden to brighten up their rooms. Even though she often remained on the island up through early December, she never failed to meet her class. One time, in late November, this intrepid lady records that she started out, with Buckner rowing the boat, but was forced to turn back midway in the river because of storm and wind. So the classes continued up until the time of Anna Warner’s death in 1915.

    DO YOU THINK THEY TEACH SUNDAY SCHOOL THERE TODAY?

    http://www.constitutionisland.org/wp/?page_id=26

    http://www.constitutionisland.org/wp/?page_id=28

  33. http://www.exposeobama.com/2012/01/31/how-obamas-eligibility-fiasco-poses-trouble-for-dems/

    How Obama’s Eligibility Fiasco Poses Trouble For Dems

    If Georgia’s Secretary of State says Obama is off the ballot,it will set in motion a scary domino effect that will devastate down ballot Democrats.
    It’s doubtful that the media will explain what is likely to happen if there is a blank space at the top of the Democrat slate in Georgia next November,but here’s a likely scenario.
    The results the latest IBD/TIPP survey hold nothing but bad news for Obama and his Democrats. Almost 2 /3 of the respondents agreed that we are preparing for the most important election since 1860. Even in the absence of hard evidence,can there be any doubt that those who are disinterested and feel no sense of urgency about this election probably have very little connection to our America except as a place to demand from to pay for their America?
    “Voter Interest” in this election can rightly be used interchangeably with “voter intensity”,which in turn translates to “voter enthusiasm” to vote.
    Last March,Republican enthusiasm was 5 points higher than Democrat enthusiasm,but that difference had grown to a 21 point edge in an October CNN survey.
    CNN found that 64% of Republicans are either extremely or very enthusiastic about voting in November which was up 3 points from June. Democrats by contrast had just a 43% enthusiasm level as they looked forward to voting in November.
    These kinds of numbers are the stuff of titanic defeats for Democrats.
    A 2010 enthusiasm edge of 19 points at 63/44 for Republicans gave them pickups of 680 state level legislative seats and 64 Congressional seats.
    Today’s IBD/TIPP survey shows that Republicans are 26 points more enthusiastic than Democrats with no telling how far the gap will grow. Clearly getting rank and file Democrats out to vote for Barack Obama or anyone other Democrat will be an uphill battle.
    Very dangerous territory for Democrats
    A December Gallup mega survey of 5000 voters in 12 swing states revealed non-white enthusiasm was 32%. Compared to 2008 when 65% of blacks voted 97% for Obama,this is a stunning number.
    If black enthusiasm to vote is already less than half 2008 levels, one has to wonder how many blacks will turn out to vote for ANY Democrat without Obama at the top of their ticket.
    If the Obama Citizenship cases in other states are successful,it will be a disaster for down ballot Democrats like never before.

  34. Good Morning and Happy Birtday CW…It’s a beautiful day, enjoy!

  35. Thanks for that wonderful story, Mr. Bill.
    You ask, “DO YOU THINK THEY TEACH SUNDAY SCHOOL THERE TODAY?”
    With the secularization of American life today, the ACLU would be all over the case if such were to happen. Sad, very sad.

  36. Navy Cmdr. Youssef Aboul-Enein who is Obama’s Terrorism advisor and connected to Muslim Brotherhood. CLAIMS THEY ARE NOT TERRORISTS. Even though they say to kill all Jews.

    http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2734278%3ATopic%3A326031&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

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    Here is an officer in the Navy Medical Corps who is connected to the Muslim Brotherhood and advises at the highest levels of the defense department and intelligence community.

    QUERY: What would a President Ron Paul, as CinC of the armed forces, do about THAT?

    (Oh, I forgot; the Golden Rule would be applied.)

  37. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Oh no – Here we go again??

    “Update: Ballot Challenge to Mitt Romney’s Eligibility Filed in Illinois”

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2012/01/15/ballot-challenge-to-mitt-romneys-eligibility-filed-in-illinois/

    Read the comments

  38. Happy B-Day Wells, have a good one.

  39. HonorFirst | January 31, 2012 at 11:16 am |

    US intelligence warns Iran poised to conduct terror attacks in US
    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/31/us-intelligence-warns-iran-poised-to-conduct-terror-attacks-in-us/

    Ok Ron Paul, now what?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Have you ever heard of FALSE FLAGS…look it up and see how many we have had…..this is just more FEAR mongering BY the war mongers…..if our intelligence is so good….why aren’t they preventing this….we have the strongest military in the world……really you people need to stop regurgitating media propaganda…it’s NOT working with people who are awake and truly KNOW what is going on!

  40. William | January 31, 2012 at 11:25 am |

    Honor First,

    Ron Paul would do very little in my opinion. Not that that would be any different than Obama at this time.

    Isolationism is very dangerous. In fact, after WWI the United States did exactly that, went into Isolationism. Unfortunately, because of doing so – Lead to WWII…..!!!

    But I also agree that if America is not serious about stopping threats and stomping some arse and ending the threat to America, then we don’t need to send our troops in harms way, for nothing. That’s just stupidity and ideologue.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    More misinformation here……THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX/ESTABLISHMENT’S policy is ISOLATIONISM…….Dr. Paul’s is the opposite……his policy is that of NON-INTERVENTIONISM……you evidently don’t know the difference between the two…..you would do well to research and study up on it so that you are not misinforming folks!!

  41. It’s hilarious. In their coverage of the package sent to Sheriff Joe Arpaio with the whiter powder substance, they don’t even mention WHY the letter was sent to Arpaio in the first place. These guys are truly cowards, no better than the rest of the mainstream media.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/30/sheriff-arpaios-phoenix-offices-temporarily-evacuated/

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/30/sheriff-arpaios-phoenix-offices-temporarily-evacuated/

  42. My husband’s family are all Air Force people and I asked him to write something up for me to post here because he is the most knowledgeable in our house concerning Dr. Paul’s foreign policy….here is what he says and I believe it to be quite accurate……again…this is from people who have been involved in the Air Force for at least 5 generations and his father served over 30 years……

    For those who are genuinely fearful of Ron Paul’s foreign policy and don’t HATE him for other reasons but using foreign policy for an excuse, I suggest you read the following:

    Ron Paul wants us OUT of the UN, so we can look after OUR own interests, and not THEIRS.

    Ron Paul wants to cut ALL foreign aid. Cutting foreign aid to Israel’s enemies is a net plus for Israel, even if we cut theirs as well.

    If Israel no longer receives foreign aid, they will be free to look after THEIR own interests, and not OURS.

    Israel has not acted against iran yet for the following reasons:

    They are part of the UN.

    They receive foreign aid from the US.

    They have received the go ahead to act against Iran from neither the UN nor the US.

    Here is how we fix those problems:

    We get out of the UN, and who knows? Israel may follow suit.

    We stop BRIBING (foreign aid) Israel not to act in their own interests.

    We mind our own business and let Israel do what it feels it needs to do.

    The next questions that might arise are: Wouldn’t Iran still be a threat to us and Israel? Will we or Israel be able to defend ourselves? Doesn’t Israel need our protection?

    These are all legitimate questions, but not a one of them can’t be answered satisfactorily.

    Yes, Iran, IF it gets SEVERAL working nukes, it MIGHT be a threat. We will give the fearful the benefit of the doubt and say that even if Iran only has one weapon, they are still very dangerous.

    But yes, we will be able to defend ourselves, because the US has a huge defense-shield network, and Israel has its own as well as ‘access’ to ours. The US has tens of thousands of its own nuclear weapons. Israel has 300 to 400 or more of its own nuclear weapons. Israel, ON ITS OWN, took out the entire Egyptian Air Force (the biggest, best trained, and most sophisticated Air Force in the middle East at that time) in a single day in 1967. Israel, ON ITS OWN, took out Iraq’s nuclear weapons program in 1981, despite the fact that Iraq’s main purpose of that program was a defense against Iran. Israel, ON ITS OWN, took out Syria’s nuclear weapons program in 2007.

    So, no, Israel does not need our protection. In fact, the recently retired head of Mossad (Israel’s version of the CIA) and current conservative Israeli prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu have both stated that they can handle Iran without America’s help.

    For those that are worried that Iran may be a greater threat once we pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, I say to them we have no choice, unless we want top stay there FOREVER and go BANKRUPT.

    It should also be noted that our presence in Iraq has only emboldened Iran because we took out Saddam and gave the Shiites of Iraq the reins of government.

    For those concerned about cuts in the department of defense:

    The Department of Defense, like ALL government agencies, is full of graft, corruption, obsolete programs (like the F22 raptor), social engineering, and redundancies (like paying contractors TWICE to do a job ONCE). DoD pays contractors for equipment and services based on a set price, rather than market incentives. This leads contractors to charge more money for less quality, with no consequences. No bid contracts lack the competitiveness, efficiency, and quality associated with the free market.

    Military installments (900 in 100 countries) around the world would be shut down, including those in Germany, Japan, France, and Britain. The reason why these countries have such lousy militarizes and need us to protect them is because we are there and they have grown dependent.

    Troop pay and Veteran benefits would not be cut, nor would body armor or necessary equipment.

    We spend half of the world’s military spending. Half of it could be cut without affecting our military presence, and a large portion of the rest could be cut without weakening our military might.

    As has been asked before: if you were Chuck Bronson living in a tough neighborhood, where would you keep your weapons? Locked in a safe back at home, or on the kitchen counters of friends, enemies, and strangers?

    Troops would be put on the border, thereby eliminating the need for a special border patrol and the DHS, and the National Guard would again be under the direction of State governors, eliminating the need for a federally directed FEMA.

    Putting troops on the border and around seaports would also eliminate the alleged threat posed by suitcase nukes.

    For those worried about Ron Paul not going after this nations REAL enemies:

    Ron Paul voted to authorize going after Bin Laden and other members of the Al Qaeda network. Kill or capture. He also supports allowing privateers to do this much more efficiently than 150,000 troops on a nation building experiment.

    And for those who believe that Ron Paul blames this country for 9/11, here is the truth:

    Ron Paul has NEVER blamed the American people, the AMerican way of life, the American dream, or the troops for 9/11. He has blamed the US government. If it is okay to blame the feds for the economic crash, the poor education system, bankrupting the nation, and shoving immoral and unconstitutional laws down our throat, why is it not okay to blame the US government for the problems our country has on the international stage?

    Here is what Ron Paul means when he blames our foreign policy for 9/11.

    Our government funded BIN LADEN, helped Al Qaeda during the Balkans episode, refused to shoot Osama THREE TIMES when he was in our cross hairs, were ten minutes too late bombing Tora Bora (where he was hiding), prevented highly skilled mercenaries from going after him, and took ten years to find the man, when with our CIA, our military, the reward on his head, our foreign aid (bribery) to Pakistan, etc., and God knows what else, we should have been able to do it in six months.

    Not to mention the CIA and the FBI each had a file on Mohammed Atta, and if they had been allowed by Bush and Clinton to access each others files, they would have detained him and foiled the attacks.

    With all this, how can you NOT say that our ‘benign’ government is not just as culpable as the hijackers?

    We will have to bring the troops home one way or the other. Would we rather do it on our own terms (by doing it ASAP, but taking precautions), or would we rather do it on the terms of our creditors and our enemies (by waiting for a fiscal collapse caused in part by our Defense spending and the borrowing and inflating required to fund it)?

    This is how empires die, by spreading themselves too thin and treating everything as a threat.

    This is not isolationism. Isolation would require us to withdraw from the world in total…… Ron Paul wants Free Trade (not fake free trade like NAFTA and WTO), diplomacy (not fake diplomacy like the UN and Foreign Aid), and in the case of a real threat, Constitutional Declared Wars.

  43. Here’ s a very simple response to explain the difference between these terms:

    Isolationism is how we deal with N.Korea, Syria and Iran.
    Interventionism is how we deal with Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq.
    Non-Interventionism is how we deal with Russia and China.

  44. This is quite disturbing to say the least…..the whole election process is being manipulated…..

    How many people know about this? It looks like the internet voting company, SCYTL, decides who “wins.” (And 100% of South Carolina precincts were under its control. Same with Florida and many other states.) What can be done about this? I think Bev Harris at Blackbox Voting has suggestions.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2834021/posts

  45. Read this article the other day. It says there are ballot challenges to all Republican Pres Candidates
    http://obamaballotchallenge.com/obamas-main-opponents-might-be-removed-from-illinois-ballot

  46. jacqlynsmith | January 31, 2012 at 1:28 pm |

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Misinformation? Prove it.

    I am akin to believe it is the same proof you had with your election and support of the RAP, of which you then claimed (look it up) the official overthrow of the Government, of which you elected a President, of which you were a party too, of which you claimed High Ranking Military Officials from the branches of the Navy, Army, Marines, Air Force, were all on board and YOU were an elected party of such.

    But it doesn’t stop there. You also were a direct proponent of the 9/11 Truther movements. Flooded every website as well. Now you are latched on to Ron Paul. All else failed.

    You claimed I am obviously ignorant with Isolationism, which in turn claims historians and U.S. Economists are also lying with the ill dues and damages of U.S. Isolate Policies throughout history.

    It is YOU, that has not done your homework. But you claim you have. Therefore, I respectfully ask, prove it..

    Talk is cheap Jacqlyn, which is all that you are.

  47. By the way,

    A 4th generation in the Air Force? What, is you husband in his 20’s? This would explain a lot.

    The Air Force did not become a branch on its own until 1947. And your husband has his Great Grandfather as the initial person to begin? That makes you very young. Which would explain much.

  48. jacqlynsmith | January 31, 2012 at 2:23 pm |

    This is quite disturbing to say the least…..the whole election process is being manipulated…..

    How many people know about this? It looks like the internet voting company, SCYTL, decides who “wins.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You haven’t been paying attention have you; otherwise you would know this. When you claimed, “It’s the electors that decide, not the voters”, you were obviously misinformed. Not like I am surprised by your ignorance or over zealousness, but purely misinformed. Same as you were with RAP and 9/11 Truthers.

  49. GORDO | January 31, 2012 at 10:49 am |

    “Larry Sinclair book, GoDaddy.com, Copyright infringement, disgusting websites, GoDaddy allows illegal activities, Vicious attacks on Sinclair and others”

    “GoDaddy.com, a website hosting service, has allowed disgusting websites to continue vicious attacks against Larry Sinclair and many others. They are now allowing copyright infringement of Larry Sinclair’s new book, “Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair, Cocaine, Sex, Lies & Murder?”. Larry Sinclair has corresponded with GoDaddy on numerous occassions and informed them of the illegal activity. GoDaddy.com has no excuse for taking no action.

    Is the management of GoDaddy.com so entrenched with, so in bed with the Obama camp that they ignore the laws of this country. If they are, that makes sense. It is consistent with the policies and attitudes of Barack Obama.”

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/larry-sinclair-book-godaddy-com-copyright-infringement-disgusting-websites-godaddy-allows-illegal-activities-vicious-attacks-on-sinclair-and-others/
    ****************************************
    Gordo, Obama will do everything he can to gain control of the internet, the same as any enemy, like the Muslim Brotherhood, would do to gain control of the message.

  50. P.S.,

    Report Back to Ron Paul of your wonderful positive messages on blogs gaining supportive attention.

    If I were on the Ron Paul Staff, you are the last person I would want carrying my message. You are an ill-informed, historically incorrect nutjob,

  51. http://www.cdobs.com/archive/featured/wired-for-silence-patrick-fitzgeralds-rezko-watchers/

    From Chicago Daily Observer…Patrick Fitzgerald, Tony Rezko, Dan Mahru and Daniel T. Frawley…

  52. Breaking: Obama Hosted Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright at WH Three Times!

    http://www.punditpress.com/2012/01/breaking-obama-hosted-bill-ayers.html

  53. William, I agree with you completely.
    I suspect we will be assualted here with a barrage of not only Ron Paul people (most of whom are not combative) but then we get the conspiracy crap with all their urgent and “breaking news.” It would probably be most prudent to just ignore them. As you well know, one ex RAP person is unrelentless, goes into full (unnecessary) attack mode and totally disrupts this great site.

    Perhaps, if we totally ignore those certain bloggers, they will not feel validated here and go elsewhere. One can only hope.

  54. Interested Bystander

    William,

    Yes I had to work last night.

    One good thing about my workplace is that I am authorized to work from 6pm to 6am but can work any time in between if need be.

    In other words, I can work 6pm to 6am or I can work 6pm until 2am if I only want to work 8 hours.

    But my scheduled work time is 10pm until 6am.

    As far as Paul goes, I STILL think our priorities are way off.

    We need to concentrate on the National Debt and the annual deficit.

    Can you folks who think that we need to be here and there all over the world deciding what governments people NEED inform me on how we PAY for such?

    The last I looked we are borrowing 40 cents out of every dollar we spend.

    To me this is our biggest NATIONAL SECURITY issue.

  55. William | January 31, 2012 at 2:57 pm |

    jacqlynsmith | January 31, 2012 at 1:28 pm |

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Misinformation? Prove it.

    I am akin to believe it is the same proof you had with your election and support of the RAP, of which you then claimed (look it up) the official overthrow of the Government, of which you elected a President, of which you were a party too, of which you claimed High Ranking Military Officials from the branches of the Navy, Army, Marines, Air Force, were all on board and YOU were an elected party of such.

    But it doesn’t stop there. You also were a direct proponent of the 9/11 Truther movements. Flooded every website as well. Now you are latched on to Ron Paul. All else failed.

    You claimed I am obviously ignorant with Isolationism, which in turn claims historians and U.S. Economists are also lying with the ill dues and damages of U.S. Isolate Policies throughout history.

    It is YOU, that has not done your homework. But you claim you have. Therefore, I respectfully ask, prove it..

    Talk is cheap Jacqlyn, which is all that you are.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`~~

    YEp……your talk is plenty cheap…that’s for sure……Prove you aren’t a Propagandist….You sound like a broken record right off of FIX NEWS!

  56. Interested Bystander

    Tina,

    Go back to the last thread and read my responses to your comments.

  57. drudge has romney 46%
    gringrich 39%
    santorum 7%
    exit polls

    paul…………..no where to be found. Can’t win REP Nomination
    with no delegats ronnie boy, especially from great state of Florida……

  58. Interested Bystander

    da verg,

    Are you willing to admit you were wrong about Paul and ZERO delegates?

    By the way, it is well known that Paul skipped Florida simply because it is a “winner take all” State.

    Ever heard of strategy?

  59. William | January 31, 2012 at 3:13 pm |

    By the way,

    A 4th generation in the Air Force? What, is you husband in his 20′s? This would explain a lot.

    The Air Force did not become a branch on its own until 1947. And your husband has his Great Grandfather as the initial person to begin? That makes you very young. Which would explain much.
    ~~~~`~~~`~~~`~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~“

    You’re a joke…..you wouldn’t know a great Veteran if you saw one! BTW….when I talk of generations…..I’m not talking strictly Air Force…..I’m talking all branches of which my great-great granfather and great-great uncles served! NOW go antagonize someone who gives a DARN what you believe or think…..talk about NUTS……squirrels have NOTHING over you!

  60. Good try Bystander……there’s just a few here that you might want to spend time chatting with…..the rest are pretty brainwashed…..thanks for all your comments though….they are spot on! 🙂

  61. Anyone in Nevada who is close to Las Vegas…..there is a huge rally tonight at the Green Valley Ranch Casino with Dr. Paul….it starts at 5:30 pm….open to the public……EVERYONE WELCOME TO JOIN THE REVOLUTION! 🙂

  62. This was this morning folks…..the country is turning……we are awakening the masses……turn off your idiot boxes and JOIN THE REVOLUTION TO TAKE BACK THE COUNTRY……

    [VIDEO] Ron Paul speaks at Colorado State to a sold out crowd

    http://www.collegian.com/index.php/article/2012/01/ron_paul_speaks_at_colorado_state_to_a_sold_out_crowd

  63. Da Verg | January 31, 2012 at 6:16 pm |

    drudge has romney 46%
    gringrich 39%
    santorum 7%
    exit polls

    paul…………..no where to be found. Can’t win REP Nomination
    with no delegats ronnie boy, especially from great state of Florida……
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    My husband, daughter and I are all going to be delegates so don’t know where you are getting your misinformation as I said most likely the MEDIA WHORES….they don’t have a clue what is going on but that is fine…..leave them in the dark!

  64. William……………..
    It would appear to that MMMSSS. jacqlynsmith is trying to take the credit for what her ALLEGED near,and distant relatives accomplished, so long ago,and trying to make it appear that this makes her SUPERIOR to the rest of us. That is an OBOT trait. She gives herself away when she starts her JABBER,and uncontrollable diarrhea of the mouth. Psychiatric problem,without a doubt. I guess this is on a par with her involvement with the NUT CASES last year. I always look for the the traits of such people, and they never seem to stop trying to make people think they are SO DAMN SUPERIOR. In reality they are NOTHING MORE than OVEREDUCATED CHILDREN. Just like all the rest of the OBOTS.

  65. This is what we are up against folks……our elections are rigged and the NWO group is telling you who will be the next PREZ……pass this info far and wide……the REVOLUTION is peaceful so far but if this NONSENSE doesn’t stop I don’t think it will remain that way……

    Media Fraud preparing to move Ron Paul to single digits

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/29/florida-poll

    They are preparing the masses to expect RP to fade to obscurity. Notice they report RP received no bump after debate. They are telling America the Revolution is over. We must contest the vote counts!!! Otherwise vote results will be sub 10% buy super Tues!

    If Santorum were to leave the race, the NBC News/Marist poll showed Romney and Gingrich splitting his support, with Romney’s backing rising to 49% and Gingrich’s to 33%.

    According to the poll results from after the CNN debate, Santorum got a 5% boost while Romney lost three percentage points and Gingrich dropped four points. Paul’s support didn’t change following the debate.

    CNN debate – and released Saturday evening. Romney received 42% to 31% for Gingrich, 14% for Santorum and 6% for Paul.

    American Research Group survey, taken entirely after the latest televised debate, showed Romney in the top spot with 43% support from likely GOP primary voters, followed by Gingrich with 32%, Santorum with 11% and Paul with 8%

  66. TO ALL YOU GOP PARTY THUMPERS……….

    No one but Paul is proposing actual budget cuts, not just cuts in proposed spending increases ten years out…

    No one but Paul is against the Patriot Act, SOPA, PIPA, and NDAA…

    No one but Paul demands a declaration of war before sending our armed forces into sovereign nations…

    No one but Paul has voted against tax increases every time…

    No one but Paul points out the unconstitutionality of our current monetary system…

    No one but Paul has consistently voted against increasing the size of government…

    No one but Paul is truly committed to the principle of limited constitutional government with checks and balances of power…

    For all of these reasons and so many more…

    No one but Paul has earned MY vote!!!

  67. Old Salt, I have been otherwise occupied today until now while catching up here at CW’s. Couldn’t agree more about “MMMSSS Smith”. I remember when I first started posting at CW’s in Jan., 2010, and at that time there didn’t seem to be any problem. Later, however, when R.A.P. got in full swing, her posts were among some that got so off the wall, along with the desire to pick a fight, that she and a few others left.

    Later that year she posted with great fervor at another blog and got into fights with a number there, so a few other blogs were formed. I happened to read at the new sites, and what do you know? One after another banned her not because of her political beliefs but because she doesn’t know how to be respectful to others with different opinions.

    In my world we would say about those kinds of people that they have an “attitude.” It manifests itself as superiority, as you say.

    Jackie, before you came back here, we had Ron Paul supporters, who for the most part, have been respectful. We don’t squelch what they have to say and respect their right to say it.

    Now, you are a different story. It is evident that you haven’t learned anything much in the last couple of years. You are just as combative and sarcastic as ever. Your message does not resonate with me and others here. Why don’t you either create your own blog or go back to the one that you’ve been monopolizing for some time?

  68. As the old saying goes….let the rest of us talk amongst ourselves. We can certainly identify each other….all those comments in between the rants!

  69. Helping to spread the word. This letter is from Orly Taitz site, she says she’s having trouble sending mass emails.

    from a supporter Bart Piscitello

    Posted on | January 31, 2012 | 4 Comments
    Bart Piscitello
    Submitted on 2012/01/31 at 8:44am

    Dr.Taitz,
    You have done a fabulous and amazing piece of legal and historical work in getting this to the court.
    Mahili appears to be a fair judge and is giving you a fair hearing. Hopefully, this will blossom into a snowball;
    Unfortunatelyy, it is still a long uphill fight and the odds are still stacked against you.
    Your followers and supportors are still with you and hopefully they will continue to support you financially.
    Last week, I sent in a donation in appreciation of your efforts in the GA court.
    I will continue to support your valiant cause as money is the only ammunition that we can fight with at this time. The next step, if we do nothing is martial law; it’s on the way as Bradly vehicles and helicoptors are being sent to LA, and Miami, the Fema camps are built and Hr822 is law. I can only pray that we have a fair and honest election before the implantation of martial law.
    For you veterans out there, support Orly in any and every way you can.
    You will have many advisors that will give you their opinions as to which direction you should take.
    Stay focused, stay on course and may God Bless Orly.
    America is dying a slow death; our congress, law enforcement, and judiciary have turned their backs to our plight.
    I beseech all of the Dr Taitz supportors to contribute some dollars into the Taitz ammunition box and keep it coming in, as trips to HI, GA, DC, MI, etc and virtually all over the US are reeking financial havoc on Dr. Taitz.
    Her personal fortune and life has gone into this fraud discovery.
    Our worthless congress should be ashamed of themselves.
    The Supreme court is another hide their heads in the sand institution.
    The recent presidential candidates look the other way, and we are left with only Orly to keep the final burial of America from happening.
    She is trying to resusitate a dying elephant with a small bottle of aspirin.
    We need to help her out much more than empty rethoric empty promises.The donations are needed now.
    Forget the other blogs, who do nothing. Orly is getting results.
    The blog count is now over 23 million; someone is listening.
    We have foreigners that are watching this fraud, and what is going on.
    Come’on you Americans, unite behind Orly and let’s show the world that the American spirit is still alive and ready to take on our adversarys and defeat them.
    Perhaps then, America will breathe the air of freedom once again.

    Go Orly Go

  70. Wow, I’m at loss for words. As I said before, many of Paul’s followers are OTT! A poster here comes to mind. She is a female whose first name begins with a J.
    I am a recent convert to Paul as I think that both Romney AND Gingrich are insiders, and though I like Santorum, he has a lot of baggage that the MSM will destroy him with should he become the nominee. One only needs to look into the fact that Santorum, while senator, charged his home district in PA many thousands for internet schooling of his children when he actually resided in VA in a half mil. home, and it was never repaid.
    But I digress. Why are so many of Paul’s followers out of their FRICKIN MINDS?

  71. SueQ….I don’t know how long you have been a poster here at CW, but buckle up for a bumpy ride.

    We all respect your opinions as well as most everyone else here. It is typically a great site for everyone to add to CW’s great articles.

    I admit that we sometimes stray from the main topic, but ultimately we all have one goal and that is to expose and oust the fraud in the WH.

    I am continuously informed by all the great bloggers here. Its a lot of terrific teamwork.

    Every now and then we do fly into disturbance with the crazies, some more obnoxious than others. Just fasten your seatbelt, I sense we are approaching turbulence….They will leave eventually as long as we don’t validate them.

  72. Ron Paul is a decent reasonable man. Old school in many ways, which makes him endearing somehow. How is it that he attracts such nuts? Am I a nut?

  73. Wow. There is a new person here for which we have to skip over their posts. William, don’t feed her. I enjoy what you have to say and feel pain that you have the frustration. I like the civil nature of most posters here. We need the give and take of what we feel each candidate brings. The big TURN OFF is the absolute tone of who is right and who is wrong. I am old school and will vote for the man with the most conservative ideas – not the person who can necassarily beta Obama. I hold the thought that any of us here will wrap around the eventual nominee and back him to the hilt. Telling someone how to vote is ridiculous IMHO, particularly at this juncture. Paul was in Colorado today, as was Santorum. Both made enthusiastic presentations. Newt comes next week. It amazes me when ONE poster dominates the site and is less than responsive to anyone else’s point of view. I guess we can expect that now.

  74. And that poster reminds me of Carl Rove. DON’T tell me how to vote!

  75. Than you HonorFirst

  76. SueQ | January 31, 2012 at 8:33 pm |
    Ron Paul is a decent reasonable man. Old school in many ways, which makes him endearing somehow. How is it that he attracts such nuts? Am I a nut?
    ==================================================
    SueQ. You aren’t a nut. Ron Paul’s supporters don’t do him any favors. I support 95% of the things that he supports. He is definitely pro-constitution.

  77. IB, is the exception to the rule. There are plent of reasons to support Ron Paul. I don’t for several reasons that I’ve already stated at length previously. But if he were nominated, which he probably won’t, I would rally around him like I will the others if they win. I think Rand Paul is going to be the eventual torch bearer of the Ron Paul revolution, which has many positive attributes even if some of his followers are extremely unsavory.

  78. Tomorrow is D Day in the Georgia court……I don’t want a default against Obama, I want a total victory based on evidence that was presented….

    Something he will have to fight in a federal court…something he can’t deny.Something that can’t be dismissed on standing…..

  79. Here in Calif they keep playing an ad. were Romney is heard saying that he supports a woman’s right to choose and that young girls should be able to go to a judge if their parents wont let them have an abortion.

    I just dont trust this Rino!

  80. Paxson,

    I agree. IB is neither a nut nor is he unsavory… are you IB?
    And yes! Rand Paul will go far.

  81. SueQ…you are most welcome, and I truly respect and enjoy your posts. and NO, you are not a nut! Ron Paul has many admirable attributes and he has been fighting for our civil liberties probably longer than anyone else.

    We as citizens have the utmost duty to weigh our own conscience and chose the canditate that most likely suits our ideals.

    Sadly too many people take for granted the liberties we enjoy as Americans.
    It would be a shame for all those that have served and died defending those freedoms could have offered so much in vain.

    Thanks to you and everyone else here, we can keep the discussions going. This site attracts a lot of lookie loos; hopefully we can change a few minds.

  82. Philo-Publius

    Presidential candidate submitted a certified petition for Writs Quo Warranto and Mandamus to the U.S. District Court for DC
    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/wire-fraud-in-the-land-of-obama/

  83. Looks like the postemail is up and running again.

  84. Evening, All,

    I am not one to tell anyone how to vote. It’s still a free country (for a while longer, anyway) and people will choose the candidate they think is the best choice for America.

    Mitt Romney was my Governor and my ‘boss.’ Things were very good here during the time he was in office, and he did indeed clean up the mess and the nearly 3 billion dollar budget deficit he inherited. He straightened this God-foresaken state out, in spite of a totally Democrat legislature. He cut the budget like mad and got us where we needed to be. Enter Democrat Cadillac Deval Patrick in 2008; his first order of business was to reinstate the budget cuts Romney had made, putting us back in the hole. We remain there today.

    So, say what you will about Romney; he did what he needed to do to get MA back on track. How would he do on the national level? Not sure, but I do know what he did for MA and at least to me, it was nothing short of a miracle.

    His wife, Ann, has been battling MS for quite some time, and she serves as an inspiration to those who have it, and those of us who are evaluating for it. It’s for sure that she (and any of the other candidates’ wives, bar Callista Gingrich) would make a heck of a better FLOTUS than what we are saddled with right now.

    While we would like to see a super Conservative in the Oval Office, it ain’t gonna happen, folks; we won’t get a 100% Conservative, just as we won’t get a hard-left Liberal. I believe that we are indeed a nation of moderates, and we lean to the right. I also believe that the ‘middle ground’ is the only way we can get anything done with the two party system we currently have in place.

    Just my two cents.

    God bless the nominee (whoever he will be) and God bless America!

  85. Joe Farah said on Hannity just now that Rubio is not NBC, like Obama, and cannot be VP candidate; Beckel and Hannity were speechless.

  86. Farrah was met with silence from Hannity and “you GOP folks need to figure that out” from Beckle – in response to Farrah saying Rubio couldn’t be VP because not NBC. It’s getting out!!!

  87. “The Lights are on…But for How Long?”

    “The website developer has told us that we are “OK for now,” but that the site will go down again after a technical change takes effect.”

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2012/01/31/the-lights-are-on-but-for-how-long/

  88. This is an interesting take on what happened on the Friday after the hearing and also a conjecture as to what may be in the future. The article was written by Sharon Rondeau.

    Why Did Obama Not Attend Thursday’s Hearing in Atlanta?

    Read more…..
    http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2734278%3ATopic%3A326064&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

  89. Sue Q, Ron Paul has EXCELLENT ideas about our economy and The Fed, but he is a racist and antisemite which is a deal breaker for many of us. He had those newsletters from years ago that he was publisher and editor. He claims that he didn’t write them, but when you are listed as editor and publisher, you really can’t say you didn’t know. It doesn’t pass the smell test.

    He has publicly made comments about the LA riots that they only broke up when the blacks left to get their welfare checks. I don’t remember the wording, but it was something like that. He also made comments that we shouldn’t have interferred with Hitler. It’s late and I’m tired otherwise I would have better info, but saw the comments going on and wanted to put in my two cents…

    His postives can never outweigh his negatives when it comes to people and their religon and race. We can all disagree with his views on foreign policy, but anyone who knowingly sides with him on personal issues doesn’t deserve any respect and rightfully can be called nuts. We are all children of God and shouldn’t be mean to each other because of the color of our skin.

  90. Interested Bystander

    Julie,

    I’m sorry you feel that way.

    Julie commented:

    “but he is a racist and antisemite which is a deal breaker for many of us.”

    Ron Paul is neither a racist nor anti-Semitic.

    You are simply MISinformed, but if you’d take the time to actually research Paul’s work both in his private and public jobs, your comment can not be further from the truth.

    I linked an article on the last thread, near the bottom with a video of Paul explaining his position on Israel.

    But sadly, those who WANT to believe Dr Paul is “anti-Semitic” won’t take the time to watch the 7 minute video.

    Paul delivered minority babies FOR FREE back in the 60’s and early 70’s. He says “it’s just the way it was back then”.

    Paul has taken RESPONSIBILITY for the words written in his newsletter, and says the words were wrong.

    But really Julie, all you have to do is research and find out.

    I have to respond to this comment:

    “He has publicly made comments about the LA riots that they only broke up when the blacks left to get their welfare checks.”

    Again, you are sadly mistaken. Those words appeared in one of the newsletters. Paul never “said” them as you suggest.

    Honestly, I can understand people’s “reservations” about Paul.

    William suggests that we tried “isolationism” between WWI and WWII, and that it did us no good.

    Well, if memory serves me correctly (it’s been a while since I’ve researched WWII), didn’t the Japanese ATTACK us to get us involved in WWII?

    I’ve looked up the dates war was DECLARED BY THE CONGRESS back when da verg suggested otherwise, but THAT’s Paul’s stance. WAR MUST BE DECLARED before we send our young in to harms way.

    I honestly haven’t seen ANY viable solutions to the Iran getting nukes issue. But watch the video on the last thread, and see what Ron Paul SAYS about the issue.

    Julie comments:

    “He also made comments that we shouldn’t have interferred with Hitler.”

    I am supposing that you are referring to this article:

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4167841,00.html

    By the way, I found that article from googling the subject, and was first linked to an article which stated that you could read the whole interview here, and that link took me to this article.

    I’m again sorry, but I’m simply NOT buying this. First of all, I don’t believe we KNEW what Hilter was doing to the Jews prior to us joining the Allied Forces, and second I don’t believe the words QUOTED came from Paul.

    For instance, the author has “moral imperative” in quotes, and then I don’t see what this refers too.

    I’m just a little suspect of some of the things I read anymore. So much stuff is made up, and I blelieve that Dondero is a perfect example. IF Paul made these comments WHY did Dondero stay with Paul until he was fired?

    I have looked everywhere I can to find where this Shapiro “journalist” posted this so called “interview”, and every story so far has been the exact copy of the one I linked above.

    I’m a little suspect.

    You see, I WANT to believe the folks who state Paul said this or “is” that.

    After much research I can NOT find PROOF to back up your claims.

    I notice Tina was strangely absent tonight.

    Julie, please take the time to go back to the last thread and click some of the links I posted.

    They WON’T bite….promise.

  91. Interested Bystander

    SueQ asked:

    “I agree. IB is neither a nut nor is he unsavory… are you IB?”

    I guess that depends on what your definition of “unsavory” is.

    To Tina, I probably am “unsavory”.

    But to the people who REALLY care about me, they know all they have to do is ask, and I’ll be there.

    I TRY to live my life in a responsible way, but no one is perfect.

    I just wish that the American people would WAKE UP.

    Republicans AND Democrats alike.

    We will NEVER be the “envy” of the World again unless we get this “drunken sailor” spending spree under control

    We have GOT to understand that the 15 TRILLION dollars that we ADMIT to owing is just a TENTH of what we REALLY owe.

    THAT’s why Republicans AND Democrats do NOT want the Fed audited.

    Heck they just admitted a few weeks ago that the “semi audit” of the Fed showed that we “loaned” something upwards of 7 or 8 TRILLION dollars to the European banks to prop them up.

    It’s scarey, and the truth isn’t going to be pretty, but we have GOT to address this issue before we are doomed.

    But no SueQ, I’m no “nut”.

  92. Fasten your seat belts folks…..it’s coming…..check this out……looks like things are coming to a head….

    Shocking Collapse Of World Economy Warned Is Underway
    Posted on truther on February 1, 2012

    http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/02/01/shocking-collapse-of-world-economy-warned-is-underway/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+pakalert+%28Pak+Alert+Press%29

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