JoAnn Chiakulas Blagojevich juror speaks out, Prosecution case weak
Although I do not totally agree with Blagojevich juror JoAnn Chiakulas, she does make a point about the case that the prosecution didn’t make against ex governor Rod Blagojevich. JoAnn Chiakulas has finally spoken out about her decisions. From the Chicago Tribune August 27, 2010.
“Battling stomach pains and fatigue, JoAnn Chiakulas would take the train into the city each morning knowing that her resolve was disappointing some people and infuriating others.
But the 67-year-old grandmother said she also knew that as a juror in Rod Blagojevich’s corruption trial, she had a responsibility to follow her conscience and the law. She said she did not believe he or his brother committed a crime with their actions to fill Barack Obama’s Senate seat, so she would not find them guilty despite what other jurors, prosecutors and, perhaps, the general public wanted.
If it was going to be 11-1, so be it.
“I could never live with myself if I went along with the rest of the jury,” Chiakulas told the Tribune in her first media interview since the trial ended. “I didn’t believe it was the correct vote for me.”
The jury deliberated on the sweeping corruption charges for 14 days and, in the end, convicted Rod Blagojevich of one count of lying to the FBI. The panel was split on the 23 other counts, prompting the judge to declare a mistrial and the government to promise a retrial.”
“Chiakulas and two other jurors broke their silence in an interview Wednesday night and offered their account of the deliberations and the trial’s aftermath. Also attending was longtime Chicago Tribune contributor Ruth Fuller, a family friend who helped arrange the meeting.
Chiakulas said she found Blagojevich’s recorded statements on the Senate vacancy to be so scattered and disorganized that his actions did not reach the level of a criminal conspiracy.
One day he chattered about being the Indian ambassador, for example, then in the next conversation he discussed another plan. In the space of a few weeks, he talked about appointing, among others, Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan, Oprah Winfrey or himself.
She said she never saw him formulate a clear plan to sell the seat. But in voting him not guilty, she stressed she did not find him innocent.
“I thought he was narcissistic,” she said. “I thought he was all over the place. I thought he was just rambling.”
It also concerned Chiakulas that some key witnesses who testified against Blagojevich had cut deals with prosecutors before testifying, she said.
“Some people in (the jury room) only saw black and white,” Chiakulas said. “I think I saw, in the transcripts and in the testimony, shades of gray. To me, that means reasonable doubt.””
“Still, the holdout label upsets Chiakulas and some other jurors because, they say, it wrongly suggests she was a Blagojevich apologist. To the contrary, she readily acknowledged the governor’s faults during deliberations and made it clear that she didn’t condone his behavior or leadership, Moore said.
“She admitted he talks too much, he sounds like an idiot sometimes,” Moore said. “She said, ‘But we’re not here to determine whether he talks like an idiot sometimes. That’s not what he’s on trial for.'””
“While Chiakulas shunned the media spotlight in the days after the verdict, the loquacious Blagojevich appeared on national television to thank her for her resolve and proclaim that she has reaffirmed his faith in God.
When asked about his comments, Chiakulas frowned and slightly shook her head.
“I didn’t do it for him,” she said.”
Read more:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-blagojevich-jury-20100827,0,7458628,full.story
Citizen WElls 
Out and out JURY NULLIFICATION. She worked for the Illinoise(my spelling on purpose) government which amounts to conflict of interest issues. She should never had been accepted. BUT MAYBE THAT WAS THE PLAN FROM THE START.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification
ms. helga | August 27, 2010 at 8:08 am |
A suggestion for some of the brilliant writers on this site. We need someone to come up with a book called “THE CONSTITUTION FOR DUMMIES”.
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There is ALREADY a most excellent book “THE POLITICALLY INCORRECT GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION”. See, for instance:
Politically-Incorrect-Guide-Constitution-Guides/dp/1596985054/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282923487&sr=1-1
And, “FOUNDING FATHERS”:
Politically-Incorrect-Founding-Fathers-Guides/dp/1596980923/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282923556&sr=1-2
And, given the EXTREME impact of the 14th on the constitution, you must also have this one:
Politically-Incorrect-Guide-Civil-Guides/dp/1596985496/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282923693&sr=1-7
And, by some of the same authors:
Who-Killed-Constitution-Government-American/dp/0307405761/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282923783&sr=1-4
And, no, it was not Zero – he only contributed a little. That is why it is so hard to nail Zero on this. A majority of the Federal Government is currently UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Zero has only fiddled around the edges. It is fairly easy to understand how some people can deduce Racism from trying to penalize the Black Man for things the White Man has been doing for decades.
( Put “http://www.amazon.com/” in front of these.)
kudos | August 27, 2010 at 3:37 am |
Posted by constitutionallyspeaking on April 28, 2010
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A lot of people have their underwear in a twist wanting to amend the 14th to disallow Anchor Babies. This is totally unnecessary. Neither the original intent nor the wording of the 14th, as it is right now, condone Anchor Babies. It takes a twisted mind of unimaginable confusion, and wandering way out in the LaLaLand of “shadows” and “penumbras” to come up with Anchor Babies. Just modify the bleeding immigration laws, already. Geez.
PS – I was not pizzing on YOU – I was pizzing on “THEM” – and just agreeing with you actually that the judge you referenced is correct. These Anchor Babies are no way “under the jurisdiction”, so this is easy peasy. Just some common sense laws are needed.
bought and paid for. she was probably promised her kids and grand kids lifetime appts jobs for govt . sweet granny should have not made a deal with this corruption.
Thank you CC(FUBO) – I just found this –
http://books.google.com/books?printsec=frontcover&id=f6BfIhKuGrkC#v=onepage&q&f=false
truthbetold11 | August 27, 2010 at 12:39 pm |
She SOLD HER SOUL
ms. helga | August 27, 2010 at 11:23 am |
Out and out JURY NULLIFICATION.
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“But the 67-year-old grandmother said she also knew that as a juror in Rod Blagojevich’s corruption trial, she had a responsibility to follow her conscience and the law.”
As with any situation there are often nuances of which we are not fully aware. Yes, she may have been influenced by her work for the Illinois government, but then, again, she may have been just a little more astute and particular than the other jurors.
This reminds me of my cousin who sat on a jury (much lesser charges) and was the hold-out. My cousin was one smart cookie and she also was a person of conviction who was not afraid to be the only one against the others, who hounded, cajoled, used in-your-face tactics, etc., because they wanted”out of there.” My cuz just felt deeply that the man was NOT guilty. Guess what? Later she was proven right.
Of course, this Blago case was much more complicated, but after hearing her side of it, I am inclined not to come down so hard on her as previously.
As always bo/bp fail again in attempt to remove broken pipes.
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/08/fishing_operation_has_failed_a.html
truthbetold11 | August 27, 2010 at 12:39 pm |
bought and paid for. she was probably promised her kids and grand kids lifetime appts jobs for govt . sweet granny should have not made a deal with this corruption.
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You certainly are entitled to it, but that is pure speculation. I am much more disgusted with the case that the prosecution presented than I am with Ms. Chiakulas.
As far as eleven against one, when I see how people think and rationalize these days, it is entirely conceivable that she was the only one who really took the case as seriously as one should. I don’t know that, of course, but none of us knows the exact truth.
Head Popping Time –
“CIA making secret payments to members of Karzai administration”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/26/AR2010082606776_pf.html
PS – Cabby-AZ – I think she might work for the CIA!
None of what bo/bp or cc fubo have stated is true. Still no success at stopping leaks or completing the relief wells.
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Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | July 21, 2010 at 12:58 am |
GOM Oil Gusher Update
Relief well is better than planned…
One of the “documented sea bed leaks – OMG, BUBBLES!” from yesterday is now believed to be just breathing clams (or maybe just routine biological decomposition)…
Oil Gusher Update
” The bottom line is that the well cap is holding and there are no known leaks elsewhere.
The relief wells are progressing. The bottom kill operations may begin in a couple of weeks…
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | August 4, 2010 at 12:31 am |
“GOM Gusher Update
Optimistically it can be said that success is near.”
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | August 4, 2010 at 12:42 pm |
GOM Oil Gusher Update
“ Here are the best facts that are known at the moment.
1. The Top Kill (aka Static Kill) procedure is progressing as planned. Contrary to some reports they have not yet “succeeded with the top kill”, the correct statement is that “the process is underway and it is successful so far.”
2. The surface slicks of oil do indeed seem to be getting smaller. And so far there is less gunk and gack on the beaches than had been anticipated. The local authorities are allowing more and more fishing. The local economy is beginning to rebuild.
http://moneymorning.com/2010/07/14/bp-relief-wells/
The bottom of the production casing (what’s left of it) for the blown Macondo-1 Well is 18,360 feet down – about 5,000 feet of water followed by 13,000 feet of seabed below. The relief wells are going to intersect the current pipe at about 17,500 feet down. The idea is to interrupt the oil flow and then stop the leak by pushing down a considerable amount of drilling mud and fluid. This is called a “dynamic kill.” It is not intended to stabilize the well for later production – it’s intended to end it for good.
But this outcome is hardly a certainty. To put it in perspective, BP needs to drill down three miles – having to do so blind for the more than 70% of the operation that is below the seafloor – while hitting, at the correct angle, a target no bigger than a salad plate .
What if the leak cannot be plugged?
The relief wells may still siphon off some of the oil flow, but the leak will continue for quite some time.
The legendary oil firefighter Red Adair gave a series of lectures in Scotland, just as deepwater drilling was beginning in the North Sea some 30 years ago. Somebody asked him then the same question people ask me today: What happens if a relief well cannot stop a blowout?
His answer was direct: Nature will ultimately decline the pressure of the leak to a point at which the well can be capped. However, he added, that would take about three years.
Now here’s my answer. Based on flow rate and initial BP production estimates, my current projection holds that, should the relief wells fail, a 1,015-day continuous flow awaits before the blowout suffers a natural death. That’s about two years and nine months of spilling oil.
ms. helga | August 27, 2010 at 8:08 am |
A suggestion for some of the brilliant writers on this site. We need someone to come up with a book called “THE CONSTITUTION FOR DUMMIES”.
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It should also be made available in an audio version for those that don’t like read anything .
Cabby-AZ – The main problem with me is how can she have doubt about the meaning of Blago’s statement –
“I’ve got this thing and it’s $ucking … golden. … I’m just not giving it up for $ucking nothing”?
AMAZING!
bo/bp have poisoned the Gulf, destroyed Fishing, Tourism and Oil industries in Gulf and the msm is in New Orleans ignoring the Oil Spill and harping on Katrina.
I have vacationed in New Orleans all my life. In the past decade I have visited NO at least twice a year. After the 911 NO tourism took a big dive. After Katrina, tourism took an even bigger dive, but I have never seen anything damage New Orleans like the bo/bp oil disaster.
bp drilling engineer pleads the 5th
http://www.fox8live.com/news/local/story/Key-BP-engineer-refuses-to-testify-at-hearing/i8Y-ste0D0eOCGIP_73OvQ.cspx
FreeSpeech….Did you see the video of the Gentleman that went back to a city council meeting, inquiring what they intend to do with the info. they provided through a grand jury? There answer is NOTHING….how in the hell do these people keep their jobs?????? Get a Gun, a War is about to begin!!!
Dr. Alan Keyes Discusses His Upcoming Obama Eligibility Lawsuit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQc-baC7ZGE
Anyone………………………………..OT IMPORTANT!………..
I am looking to compile a list of ALL airlines that operated flights to both Nairobi,and Mombassa from London, and also had connecting flights to the US from London. I am also wondering if we can take this a step further and look for NON STOP FLIGHTS. I am really not sure on the non stop question .I don’t believe that most commercial airliners of the 1960s era had the range capability. I lean towards the flights that went through Heathrow(LONDON). If we can nail down a list of ALL the airlines that flew to Kenya in the 60s we will probably have at least captured the name of the DUNHAM TOTER!
Margie | August 27, 2010 at 2:08 pm |
FreeSpeech….Did you see the video of the Gentleman that went back to a city council meeting, inquiring what they intend to do with the info. they provided through a grand jury?
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No, I didn’t, Margie. Do you have a link?
In some States, Citizens can present criminal info directly to the County Grand Jury and in all States we Citizens have a constitutional right to form a Grand Jury to indict corrupt politicians. Once Patriots start exercising their Constitutional Grand Jury rights we can begin to take our Country back.
Justice Lewis Powell ruled:“ Such an (Grand Jury) investigation may be triggered by tips, rumors… or the personal knowledge of the grand jurors.”
For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html
For information on Crimes committed by the BHO regime:
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville
Free Speech…It was up on GiveusLiberty.blogspot.com…….Sorry i am not sure how to bring videos over.
Live Reports from Glenn Beck’s Restoring Honor Rally
Eye Witness Accounts
Check in occasionally to keep updated about the rally…….
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2578493/posts
ANYBODY……………………………….OT…………..
I am also interested in passenger manifests for the purpose of putting names with dates. How does one ask for copy of the PASSENGER MANIFEST of a flight which occurred in 1961. I have a feeling that such passenger manifests could still exist from such ancient flights. They ARE records!
Cabby – AZ | August 27, 2010 at 1:10 pm |
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I was not at the trial, so there is a bit of speculation in this – but from what I know, I would have voted not guilty on all counts. I personally and emotionally believe that he is indeed guilty right up to his bad wig. But that is not the way the justice system is supposed to work. They jury is supposed to consider the evidence presented – period. The prosecution HAD NO CASE! Or at least they presented no case. The defense rightly rested. The only thing that could have happened if they went forward with the planned defense is to accidentally screw up and bolster the prosecution’s case. Just sit down and shut up. I believe at least most of the other jurors were wrong.
CLEARLY the fault in this lies with the prosecution (and Commander Zero, DOJ Clowns, and all the Flying Minkeys), not with the jurors.
Now, “they” may have bought off one or more jurors as insurance, but it is blazingly obvious that the Main Plan was for the prosecutors to put on a weak case.
Now bo/bp are going to remove the cap that supposedly ”stopped the well from leaking.”
Why is the dept. of injustice involved in removing the BOP?
http://www.wlox.com/Global/story.asp?S=13055275
NEW ORLEANS (AP) – The federal government said engineers will start work Monday to remove the temporary cap that stopped oil from gushing out of BP’s blown-out Gulf well so that crews can raise a key piece of equipment from the seabed.
Retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the government’s point man for the spill response, told reporters Friday that engineers must remove the cap so they can raise the failed blowout preventer. The blowout preventer is considered a key piece of evidence in determining what caused the April rig explosion that unleashed the gushing oil.
The Department of Justice and other federal investigators are overseeing the work to remove the blowout preventer, Allen said. The 50-foot, 600,000-pound device – which was designed to prevent such a catastrophe – will be taken out of the water with the well pipe still inside to ensure the pipe doesn’t break apart any more than it already has.
GOM Oil Gusher Update
Alas, time for another quick update of facts, I see.
As I mentioned last time, the immediate chore is to fish out the broken or damaged drill pipes, and after having been cleared of this debris, pull off the BOP and put on a new one. Then they can proceed with the Relief Well and other approved procedures to cap and abandon well.
They are currently having problems with the pipe. It is a difficult and tricky operation because they have to poke down into and through the failed BOP and try to latch on to the drill pipes with enough strength to pull them up and out.
The most important impediment is the hydrates that are crystallized and frozen in the BOP and the flex seal. They don’t know yet, but the hydrates could also be a problem for a considerable ways down the well bore, also. (Imagine trying to pull the stick out of a popsicle – same issue here).
There are three available options to remove the hydrates: 1) warmth, 2) highpressure spray nozzle, and 3) chemicals – essentially anti freeze. They have been doing at least sprays and chemicals. Thus if you look at any pictures/videos you will see “stuff” gushing everywhere.
In the meantime, it is not clear exactly how they will continue to attack this or how long it will take. Previous predictions indicated a week or two. Maybe that is still OK.
In the meantime – for the OMG brigade – the well is NOT leaking.
I’ll try to keep you all posted on the real facts as soon as they are known. So please try to ignore amateur hyperventilation.
Salt
Court order , under the FEDS .
http://epic.org/privacy/intl/passenger_data.html
ms. helga | August 27, 2010 at 1:38 pm |
Cabby-AZ – The main problem with me is how can she have doubt about the meaning of Blago’s statement –
“I’ve got this thing and it’s $ucking … golden. … I’m just not giving it up for $ucking nothing”?
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Of course, ms. helga, I think Blago and company are as corrupt as you make ’em, but the problem is proving it. The above statement is rotten, I agree, but it’s “words”……. Under strict rules does it rise to the level of criminality?
Also, in no way am I defending anyone, really, because I don’t know the facts of the case in the manner in which they were presented in the courtroom .
This I know: The prosecution put on an absolutely lousy case. Period.
I think we all agree it had everything to do with covering for BHO.
Joseph Farah:
“Have you ever seen such a systematic dissembling of simple childhood details for anyone else in history? We may have a motto, “Where’s the birth certificate?”, but virtually everything about this White House occupant’s childhood has two or three conflicting stories about it. This pattern doesn’t appear to have begun with his adulthood.
Some slight discrepancy would be normal and even appropriate. But why would his entire family have such trouble keeping his childhood narrative straight at every single point?”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=195953
Repost from previous thread in case anyone missed:
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Zach Jones at 10:08 am |
Is anyone aware of a live video feed of the Lincoln Memorial so the size of the crowds at the Restoring Honor event tomorrow verified and documented?
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Beck said C-Span may carry the entire event. C-Span has several links on their site include a direct link to the 828 page. I also found this link so hopefully those you can’t go, can watch it by feed or on TV.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/295213-3
Update – in re, in particular:
http://www.wlox.com/Global/story.asp?S=13055275
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By the time this stuff gets diluted through reporters, the story gets all mushed up. Not the least of which is mixing terminology for equipment and merging quotes from two different time periods that are inconsistent with each other.
To be more specific – you may recall there is a Blow Out Preventer (BOP) on top of every well head – about the size of a small skyscraper. In the Deepwater Horizon event this BOP failed (among other events). The first comprehensive collection of escaped oil was an upside down funnel that loosely fitted over the top of the BOP and sucked up maybe half of the oil.
After a number of weeks, they specially manufactured a “miniature BOP” that they fastened on top of the BOP and then attached pipes to that. Using that improved structure and its hydraulic valves they were able to capture all the spilling oil.
Ultimately they used this “cap” to control the well, stop it completely, and insert mud and cement into the well. Once that had happened, this cap was unnecessary.
Prior to current activity to fish out some or all of the drilling pipe, the valves in this “cap” were fully opened and it can be removed at any time without risk. So even the headline of this article is misleading – as if this cap were still functioning in some way and removing it posed some risk.
In any case, if you want to know what is going on, read my stuff. It is right. What I wrote above is the best up-to-the-minute information that is available.
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | August 27, 2010 at 3:22 pm |
Thank you for the serious updates on the gusher situation. These can be trusted, imo, because of your bedrock knowledge in scientific matters and diligence in searching through the available material. Frankly, I don’t know how you take all of the info out there, sort it out, give it relevance and then boil it down to an understandable report for us to digest. Kudos!
bo/bp & cc fubo claimed that well was plugged. That was obviously a lie. If the leak had been stopped they would not need to remove the BOP and they would have completed the relief well that they said would be done 2 weeks ago.
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/08/04/government-claims-bp-gulf-oil-spill-plugged-leaking-2672/
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/08/25/massive-leak-methane-oil-storm-leaking-bp-gulf-oil-spill-videos-3618/
The claim is that by filling the well with mud heavier than oil the well has been put in a ‘static condition’ meaning that even if the cap was removed the well would no longer leak.
But is it true?
Several videos captured from the underwater robots monitoring the well show that the well is still leaking in several places on or near the blowout preventer.
For example, this video shows the BOP leaking almost 12 hours after BP claimed that static kill has killed the well.
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None of what bo/bp or cc fubo have stated is true. Still no success at stopping leaks or completing the relief wells. Even Thad Allen contradicts cc fubo’s false statements that there were no leaks.
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Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | July 21, 2010 at 12:58 am |
GOM Oil Gusher Update
Relief well is better than planned…
One of the “documented sea bed leaks – OMG, BUBBLES!” from yesterday is now believed to be just breathing clams (or maybe just routine biological decomposition)…
Oil Gusher Update
” The bottom line is that the well cap is holding and there are no known leaks elsewhere.
The relief wells are progressing. The bottom kill operations may begin in a couple of weeks…
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | August 4, 2010 at 12:31 am |
“GOM Gusher Update
Optimistically it can be said that success is near.”
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | August 4, 2010 at 12:42 pm |
GOM Oil Gusher Update
The surface slicks of oil do indeed seem to be getting smaller. And so far there is less gunk and gack on the beaches than had been anticipated. The local authorities are allowing more and more fishing. The local economy is beginning to rebuild.
Thad Allen claimed that there were no structural problems with the BOP. If there are no problems, then why are they removing the BOP?
Cabby – AZ | August 27, 2010 at 3:12 pm |
Well, as I said before -THEN MAYBE THAT WAS THE PLAN!
All Summer up until 2 days ago bo/bp and cc fubo claimed that the final solution to stopping the bo/bp oil spill was the relief well that bo/bp and cc fubo claimed was progressing “better than planned” and would be successfully completed 2 weeks ago.
So what’s the problem? Why hasn’t the relief well been successful?
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/08/27/feds-bp-gulf-oil-spill-bop-removal-monday-runs-risk-cracking-open-3742/
thad allen admits that the casing hanger (seal) may be broken by removing bop which would cause oil to gush once again from the well pipe.
Margie | August 27, 2010 at 2:24 pm | Free Speech…It was up on GiveusLiberty.blogspot.com…….Sorry i am not sure how to bring videos over.
If you just bring over the link that has the video, it saves space on this blog.
Thanks…too many videos now!!
Some slight discrepancy would be normal and even appropriate. But why would his entire family have such trouble keeping his childhood narrative straight at every single point?”
Because everyone wasn’t coached by the same alphabet agency???
I just heard on Fox News the White House (obama) has decided NOT to bring charges against the Muslim terrorist bomber who almost sunk the USS Cole. Need I remind the readership of this blog that 19 brave American sailors died in that attack. Need I remind the American public that the attacker was identified and in custody.
What kind of message is this sending the Muslim terrorist world that wants to kills us? It’s a simple message: If you get caught doing your terrorist attacks against Americans, don’t worry you have a Muslim friend in high places in the White House that won’t let you go to trial.
I will bet a dollar to a dough nut the 911 terrorist will NEVER go to trial…that will be the next announcement coming from the traitor in the white house.
This un-american conduct must stop. Congress and the courts must step up and do their Constitution duty, or they too must go.
RMinNC.
I heard a Fox report several hours ago about the USDOJ putting on hold
the USS Cole prosecution. I was letting the dust settle.
Are the charges dropped?
Cabby – AZ | August 27, 2010 at 3:38 pm |
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Well, let’s see. Everybody agrees that I should not take up your time and valuable blog space defending myself from anybody should they be foaming at the mouth and trying to flick some foam on me – right?
Just as long as everybody is clear on who is who and what is what.
http://www.thefoxnation.com/international/2010/08/27/obama-halts-prosecution-uss-cole-bomber
Obama Halts Prosecution of U.S.S. Cole Bomber
The Obama administration has shelved the planned prosecution of Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, the alleged coordinator of the Oct. 2000 suicide attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, according to a court filing.
The decision at least temporarily scuttles what was supposed to be the signature trial of a major al-Qaeda figure under a reformed system of military commissions. And it comes practically on the eve of the 10th anniversary of the attack, which killed 17 sailors and wounded dozens when a boat packed with explosives ripped a hole in the side of the warship in the port of Aden.
In a filing this week in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, the Justice Department said that “no charges are either pending or contemplated with respect to al-Nashiri in the near future.”
Are we concentrating on the wells being capped, the flow stopped, or the lies of the damage already done by the oil from the wells and Corexit —not EVEN to mention the crap we aren’t being told!!
headlines at Rense
‘Blue Flu’ Spreading All Over Gulf Region
Massive Increase In Patients In Gulf Clinics – Vid
Sickness Spreading Among Gulf Residents – Vid
Millions Poisoned By BP Gulf Disaster
BP Thugs Threaten Scientists Who Find Corexit
Fishermen Use Sonar To Locate Masses Of Oil – Vid
Safety Valve Wrongly Plumbed On Rig – BP Executive
Corexit Found In Orange Beach, AL Waters – Vid
BP Gulf Oil’s Walking Dead – Vid
‘We’re Seeing More Dispersant Than Ever Before’
BP Only Recovered 10% Of The Spill At MOST
Sea Life Trying to Escape Toxic Gulf
Oil Still Leaking From ‘Capped’ BP Well – Vid
NEWS FROM AFFECTED AREAS
This would help people in making life and death decisions regarding going or staying.
http://pub47.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3957401277&frmid=7844&cmd=show
I think the administrator of the site takes all these events very serious.
Do we??
NEWS FROM AFFECTED AREAS
This would help people in making life and death decisions regarding going or staying.
http://pub47.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3957401277&frmid=7844&cmd=show
I think the administrator of the site takes all these events very serious.
Do we??
!!!!!!
I just took my last fish oil tablet–not buying any more.
I threw out shrimp from Capt D’s last night.
I bought fish to put in freezer right after disaster happened–not buying any more!
I don’t trust where the fish oil, fish, shrimp comes from….and even your pet food has fish in it from what I read.
RMinNC | August 27, 2010 at 5:04 pm |
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Yes, I agree. Forget the BC and his background and all that. He has committed multiple acts of documented and blatant treason. Any ONE of which ought to get him whatever the current politically correct punishment is for TREASON! This is absurd and unacceptable that NO ONE CARES!
I mean, he has gone way beyond Neville Chamberlain – the moron – type of misguided diplomacy. He has way WAY crossed the line. I don’t want to start a Civil War, but we have separation of powers for Chrissake. Can’t Judicial, or Congress, or even the Military do something? Again, I don’t mean a coup. But doesn’t the military have procedures? At a minimum they could expedite and support LtC Lakin and others that are questioning. Even if the military does not have the constitutional authority to cleanly dispose the tyrant, they could at least go through the motions, ensure the public is aware, and then dump their findings in the lap of the congress.
The only reason congress doesn’t do anything is because their constituents are not clamoring for it. And the reason for that is that a vast majority of the everyday citizens believe that nothing is wrong – because that is what MSM is telling them. Somebody important just needs to out this. Public opinion will then ensure the right thing happens.
For instance the LtC Lakin case is trivial. The ranking military could just make a simple speech that ever since Nuremberg and encoded in the Geneva Conventions is a requirement that all officers have to verify and question the authority, legality, and morality of orders. They are sworn to protect the constitution, not any person. LtC Lakin has raised an objection on these grounds. It should be a routine issue and easy to dismiss. But unfortunately, upon cursory examination – well, dang, what do you know – the answer is NOT available anywhere. So, we remain confident that this is just a paperwork cockup and that the whole thing will be resolved shortly. Then they send an official request over to the White House. (Even if they don’t have the power to compel a response from the WH, they can ask. If they get what they need, fine. If not then time for all the world to know!)
That covers everyone’s bottoms and gets directly to the heart of the matter and gets the truth. What is so hard about that?????
bo probably plans to release him to Yemen where his fellow murderer only served 4 years for the USS Cole murders.
http://www.examiner.com/yemen-headlines-in-national/uss-cole-bomber-fahd-al-quso-threatens-attacks-on-us-an-al-qaeda-yemen-video
.USS Cole bomber Fahd al Quso threatens attacks on US in an Al Qaeda in Yemen Video
May 26th, 2010 11:20 pm ET.
10 awaiting trial for the USS Cole bombing including Fahd al Quso escaped jail in Aden in 2003
Photo: Yemen Times
A convicted terrorist made new threats against the US in a propaganda video release by the Yemeni al Qaeda affiliate Wednesday.
Fahd al Quso convicted in Yemeni court for the terror attack on the US warship, the USS Cole, was featured in a video released by Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), MEMRI reported Wednesday.
AQAP is the Yemeni branch of the terror organization. This is the first time that Al-Quso appeared in an AQAP propaganda video. Al Quso was convicted by the Yemeni courts and received a ten year sentence. He was granted early release by the Yemeni government in 2007 after serving about four years in prison.
In the video, al Quso threatens attack on the US homeland, embassies and war ships.
JJ | August 27, 2010 at 5:17 pm |
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You are right. The well itself and surrounding details and processes are unimportant TODAY. They continue to work away on the process they have been on. Slowed down from time to time by weather and other things.
I report on it because it is one of the few factual things known. Also because it is not done until it is done. In other words, while it is OK right now today, there are risky things left to do and ‘something’ could happen.
But I am also on record as saying the far bigger story is the oil that already spilled. For instance, I never said it was 75% cleaned up or that this part of the problem was over. There is no good verifiable data right now. But all indications are that while some of it has dispersed and some of it has been absorbed by natural processes, the majority of it is still out there.
We don’t even know what the Hurricanes or Tropical Storms will do. Scientists and other experts are divided on whether the oil will be stirred up, rounded up, and pushed on shore, or further diluted and dispersed.
I have also said that perhaps the bigger worry is not the impact of the oil on the current sea life but on future generations. So even if some moron said things were looking good, the impacts may be hiding until the 2nd or 3rd generations.
Finally, by far the MOST worrisome aspect is the Corexit (and other?) chemicals. Not only is this stuff highly toxic to the immediate environment in which it exists, but the effect on sea creatures (i.e. our food supply) drinking it is unknown. And what happens if one of these storms sucks up a bunch of this tainted water and sprays it dozens (hundreds?) of miles inland. Might make Acid Rain look like only a minor annoyance.
Furthermore, these environmental issues are by far the most badly handled of the whole thing. This is where the Federal Government has failed most horribly (makes government Katrina response look professional and effective by comparison). We must never never let these crooks off the hook. We don’t know for sure that they caused anything, but we sure know they made it worse, and used this crisis to score a number of political points and push their anti-American job-killing wacko-green agenda.
ALBERT PUJOLS & TONY LA RUSSA WILL ATTEND BECK “RESTORING HONOR” RALLY
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, August 27, 2010, 2:49 PM
Two Cardinal greats will join Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin this weekend.
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/08/pujos-tony-la-russa-will-attend-beck-restoring-honor-rally/
Cabby AZ At 3;12 pm,
Yes, words do 100% completely matter. Just the fact that Blagojevich ( a former Illinois governor), and any Illinois citizen too, will find out that it doesn’t matter really if the criminal plan or the criminal deed was acted out; just that Blagojevich publicly was saying
he had something valuable, and if anyone was interested in what he had in his “possession” (a senate placement – a career in Congress) he was was willing to accept & to be paid “campaign donations” (a bribe) for it, or he was willing to accept a quid pro quo (we agree, I give you this (whatever it is), and you give me that (whatever it is)…
This is criminal conspiracy to commit several felony crimes, and it is puts Blagojevich clearly into the area committing at least several felonies because Blagojevich did not have the legal capacity as a governor to trade the Illinois senate seat for monetary funds (a bribe called a campaign donation), or for a quid pro quo. Why?
It is illegal to take ANY money or to accept ANY material advancement when you are hired to perform government political work (a hired political job.) You can be a governor, a senator, a representataive, a lobbbyist, etc.. and it is against the law legally, ethically, & morally to do this…… There are strict state Constitutional & ethics laws about this….
The Illinois senate seat should have been filled only by the best qualified person, and with the American Illinois public having their special session vote & opinion who the Illinois taxpayers (the constituents) wanted to vote to represent them in the vacant seat that the 100% Foreign Born Domestic Enemy Terrorist Jihadist, 100% Indonesian Citizen, & the USURPER ILLEGAL ALIEN, Barry Soetoro Soetobarkah / Obama moved 100% Illegally & 100% Unconstitutionally to Usurp & to Overthrow the Executive branch of the F ederal Government left open to fill.
Blagojevich was putting bribery price tags on many things that was in his governor’s power to control…. and Blago was out to receive the highest bribe “kickback” donation to his political campaign for doing someone a “favor” by someone who in his opinion, needed to “pay him” for his favors. This is extortion too.
Blogojevich was also only interested in receiving the next highest political job he could climb into that could possibly be offered to him in career advancement(s) quid pro quos by Obama, Emanuel, Holder, and/or in “monetary bribe kickbacks to him for dirty political donation quid pro quos by many, many other Illinois persons businesses, companies, etc. for “his governor’s (really the taxpayer’s) powers” that, unfortunately turned into narcissist Blagojevich illegally using the people’s power of the Illinois governorship office to illegally seek & try to obtain illegal, unethical & immoral quid pro quos illegal political gifts, rewards, bribes and political advancement in his career, in which Blagojevich would pay in quid pro quo his 1 illegal & unethical material political power & appointments & favors.
This posted itself before I had a chance to proofread it … lobbyist, and remove the 1 after the word ‘his’ in last sentence… Thank you.
Starla | August 27, 2010 at 9:15 pm |
Cabby AZ At 3;12 pm,
Yes, words do 100% completely matter
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I was referring to that PARTICULAR quote by Blago – Those words alone could not make a case against him in a court of law. There would have to be much more and they would have to be woven together by a skillful prosecutor in order to make a case. That was my point. (There was much more, but the prosecution chose not to use it.)
Certainly, “words” generally do matter. But if I were to say to someone, “I am going to take you to the cleaners” e.g., that alone would not be a criminal act, even though it could be meant as a dangerous threat.
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | August 27, 2010 at 5:26 pm |
The complacent attitude of all the politicians concerning all you mentioned still leads me to believe there are critical threats made by the Muslim in Chief…bombs placed at critical points,,, like schools, bridges, water plants, near nuclear facilities.
I refuse to believe EVERY official doesn’t see what we see; doesn’t know what we know; can’t file papers to rid this nation of this parasite and his leech family.
Starla | August 27, 2010 at 9:15 pm |
I read your post and it makes me wonder why Blago wasn’t left to commit the crime and then be arrested???
Free Speech,ccfubo, cabbyaz…………………………………………..
Having the charges dropped against the SLIMEY MURDERERS, is one thing, but for a large number of (alleged) Americans NOT TO EVEN GIVE A DAMN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER is the part that WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN! The so called YOUNG URBAN PROFESSIONALS are so caught up in his/her pursuit of wealth that they DON’T even GIVE A DAMN IF THE WORLD BURNS DOWN, just so long as it doesn’t effect them. What these MORONS DON’t GET is that the REST of the world has to exist for them to ever get rich. In REALITY they SHOVEL MANURE against the tide 24 HOURS a DAY. YUPPIES are some of the most disgusting,and otherwise sickening crowd on earth. They are only interested in THEMSELVES. (Narcissists) They are the largest, and fiercest group of Soetoro supporters. They refuse to acknowledge the truth, no matter how damning it might be, and follow their own ONE TRACK MINDSET to the END OF THE LINE. I tend to believe that in reality the yuppies think that ISLAM is some sort of COMMODITY that can be turned on or off at a tap. Wait until Soetoro gets done tapping in to their pile of GOLD. The WORLD will hear their ANGUISHED SCREAM!
Late to this discussion
I called it!!
The G did not bring a case, they could have but didn’t. They were protecting Obama regime corruption.
This women should be appplauded for being honest. The rest of those jurors were drinking the Obama / Media Koolaid.
This grandma epitomizes the proof to my opinion that there should not be jury trials! Why? Because everyone else, both sides have professional licensed lawyers and there is a professional judge presiding over the running of the court; then you have a bunch of amateurs deciding the validity of the evidence presented–this makes no logical sense! There’s a reason why only judges reside on a panel for the appellate and supreme courts; they are professional jurists who know how to weigh the evidence presented. Unlike regular jury trials where many times verdicts arise due to ‘regular’ folk making up their minds based on their common sense; which also means thinking about other matters in their lives (outside of the realm of the court case) and making a decision based on a similar situation that occurred in their lives. It happens all the time, you hear about a fraud court trial case and how a juror decided guilty based on a similar situation that happened to him AND NOT ON THE EVIDENCE!
This case (Blagojevich’s corruption trial) would have gone a different direction if it were decided by a judge or a panel of justices, they are all professionals, they know what evidence what was presented, they would quickly and efficiently weighed the evidence and then hand down a verdict. And they certainly wouldn’t have given any consideration to any situations in their personal lives and bringing that into play as part of their decision making process because that would be illegal! I say we need to eliminate amateur sleuthing jury trials and keep it were it belongs–in board games!!