RFK assassination witness Nina Rhodes Hughes confirms computer analysis of multiple shooters, Two guns firing, Sirhan Sirhan, 13 shots detected

RFK assassination witness Nina Rhodes Hughes confirms computer analysis of multiple shooters, Two guns firing, Sirhan Sirhan, 13 shots detected

From CNN April 30, 2012.
“RFK assassination witness tells CNN: There was a second shooter”
“As a federal court prepares to rule on a challenge to Sirhan Sirhan’s conviction in the Robert F. Kennedy assassination, a long overlooked witness to the murder is telling her story: She heard two guns firing during the 1968 shooting and authorities altered her account of the crime.

Nina Rhodes-Hughes wants the world to know that, despite what history says, Sirhan was not the only gunman firing shots when Kennedy was murdered a few feet away from her at a Los Angeles hotel.

“What has to come out is that there was another shooter to my right,” Rhodes-Hughes said in an exclusive interview with CNN. “The truth has got to be told. No more cover-ups.”

Her voice at times becoming emotional, Rhodes-Hughes described for CNN various details of the assassination, her long frustration with the official reporting of her account and her reasons for speaking out: “I think to assist me in healing — although you’re never 100% healed from that. But more important to bring justice.”

“For me it’s hopeful and sad that it’s only coming out now instead of before — but at least now instead of never,” Rhodes-Hughes told CNN by phone from her home near Vancouver, British Columbia.

Sirhan, the only person arrested, tried and convicted in the shooting of Kennedy and five other people, is serving a life sentence at Pleasant Valley State Prison in Coalinga, California.

The U.S. District Court in Los Angeles is set to rule on a request by the 68-year-old Sirhan that he be released, retried or granted a hearing on new evidence, including Rhodes-Hughes’ firsthand account.

At his 1969 trial, Sirhan’s original defense team never contested the prosecution’s case that Sirhan was the one and only shooter in Kennedy’s assassination. Sirhan testified at his trial that he had killed Kennedy “with 20 years of malice aforethought,” and he was convicted and sentenced to death, which was reduced to life in prison in 1972.

After the trial, Sirhan recanted his courtroom confession.

In the recent federal court filings, state prosecutors led by California Attorney General Kamala Harris argue that even if there were a second gunman involved in the Kennedy shooting, Sirhan hasn’t proven his innocence and he’s still guilty of murder under California’s vicarious liability law.”

“In a response also filed in federal court in Los Angeles, the defense team led by New York attorney William Pepper contends that the FBI misrepresented Rhodes-Hughes’ eyewitness account and that she actually had heard a total of 12 to 14 shots fired.

“She identified fifteen errors including the FBI alteration which quoted her as hearing only eight shots, which she explicitly denied was what she had told them,” Sirhan’s lawyers argued in February, citing a previously published statement from Rhodes-Hughes.
In this NBC photo taken in 1965, TV actress Nina Roman, today known as Nina Rhodes-Hughes, left, and her “Morning Star” co-star Elizabeth Perry, right, meet Robert F. Kennedy at NBC’s Burbank studios. Two and a half years later, Rhodes-Hughes witnessed Kennedy’s assassination.The FBI and the California attorney general’s office both declined to comment to CNN on the controversy over Rhodes-Hughes’ witness account since the matter is now being reviewed by a federal judge.

Rhodes-Hughes was a television actress in 1968 who worked as a volunteer fundraiser for Kennedy’s presidential campaign.

The FBI report indicates that Rhodes-Hughes was indeed inside the kitchen service pantry of the Ambassador Hotel during the crucial moments of the Kennedy shooting, but she contends the bureau got details of her story wrong, including her assertions about the number of shots fired and where the shots were fired from.

Rhodes-Hughes, now 78, tells CNN she informed authorities in 1968 that the number of gunshots she counted in the kitchen pantry exceeded eight — which would have been more than the maximum Sirhan could have fired — and that some of the shots came from a location in the pantry other than Sirhan’s position.

Robert Kennedy was the most seriously wounded of the six people shot inside the hotel pantry on June 5, 1968, only moments after the New York senator had claimed victory in California’s Democratic primary election. The presidential candidate died the next day; the other victims survived.

The Los Angeles County coroner determined that three bullets struck Kennedy’s body and a fourth passed harmlessly through his clothing. Police and prosecutors declared the four bullets were among eight fired by Sirhan acting alone.

Rhodes-Hughes tells CNN the FBI’s eight-shot claim is “completely false.” She says the bureau “twisted” things she told two FBI agents when they interviewed her as an assassination witness in 1968, and she says Harris and her prosecutors are simply “parroting” the bureau’s report.

“I never said eight shots. I never, never said it,” Rhodes-Hughes told CNN. “But if the attorney general is saying it then she’s going according to what the FBI chose to put into their report.”

“There were more than eight shots,” Rhodes-Hughes said by phone. She says that during the FBI interview in her Los Angeles home, one month after the assassination, she told the agents that she’d heard 12 to 14 shots. “There were at least 12, maybe 14. And I know there were because I heard the rhythm in my head,” Rhodes-Hughes said. She says she believes senior FBI officials altered statements she made to the agents to “conform with what they wanted the public to believe, period.”

“When they say only eight shots, the anger within me is so great that I practically — I get very emotional because it is so untrue. It is so untrue,” she said.

Contacted by CNN for comment, Sirhan lead attorney William Pepper called the alleged FBI alteration of Rhodes-Hughes’ story “deplorable” and “criminal” and said it “mirrors the experience of other witnesses.”

Other witnesses also mentioned more than eight shots

Law enforcement investigators have always maintained that only eight shots were fired in the RFK assassination, all of them by Sirhan. His small-caliber handgun could hold no more than eight bullets.

But released witness interview summaries show at least four other people told authorities in 1968 that they heard what could have been more than eight shots. The following four witness accounts appear not in FBI reports but in Los Angeles Police Department summaries:

— Jesse Unruh, who was speaker of the California Assembly at the time, told police that he was within 20 to 30 feet behind Kennedy when suddenly he heard a “crackle” of what he initially thought were exploding firecrackers. “I don’t really quite remember how many reports there were,” Unruh told the LAPD. “It sounded to me like somewhere between 5 and 10.”

— Frank Mankiewicz, who had been Kennedy’s campaign press secretary, told police that he was trying to catch up to the senator when he suddenly heard sounds that also seemed to him to be “a popping of firecrackers.” When an LAPD detective asked Mankiewicz how many of the sounds he’d heard, he answered: “It seemed to me I heard a lot. If indeed it had turned out to have been firecrackers, I probably would have said 10. But I’m sure it was less than that.”

— Estelyn Duffy LaHive, who had been a Kennedy supporter, told police that she was standing just outside the kitchen pantry’s west entrance when the shooting erupted. “I thought I heard at least about 10 shots,” she told the LAPD.

— Booker Griffin, another Kennedy supporter, told police that he had just entered the pantry through its east entrance and suddenly heard “two quick” shots followed by a slight pause and then what “sounded like it could have been 10 or 12” additional shots.

An analysis of a recently uncovered tape recording of the shooting detected at least 13 shot sounds erupting over a period of less than six seconds. The audiotape was recorded at the Ambassador Hotel by free-lance newspaper reporter Stanislaw Pruszynski and is the only known soundtrack of the assassination.

Audio expert Philip Van Praag told CNN that his analysis establishes the Pruszynski recording as authentic and the 13 sounds electronically detected on the recording as gunshots.

“The gunshots are established by virtue of my computer analysis of waveform patterns, which clearly distinguishes gunshots from other phenomena,” he said in an e-mail. “This would include phenomena that to human hearing are often perceived as exploding firecrackers, popping camera flashbulbs or bursting balloons.””

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101 responses to “RFK assassination witness Nina Rhodes Hughes confirms computer analysis of multiple shooters, Two guns firing, Sirhan Sirhan, 13 shots detected

  1. Why is cnn reporting this old news now? Are the obots afraid that bo is about to meet a similar fate?

  2. http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=7955

    McGovern alluded to a book about the assassination of John F. Kennedy, and noted he felt it likely that both Panetta and President Obama may have reason to fear certain elements of the CIA.

    “Let me just leave you with this thought,” he said, “and that is that I think Panetta, and to a degree President Obama, are afraid — I never thought I’d hear myself saying this — I think they’re afraid of the CIA.”…

  3. Who does the CIA actually work for? They’ve always seemed to be all over the place…depending on the personal proclivities of the agents!

  4. citizenwells

    Good question.

  5. “Lawrence Teeter, attorney for convicted assassin Sirhan Sirhan, believed Sirhan was under the influence of hypnosis when he fired his weapon at Robert F. Kennedy in 1968. Teeter linked the CIA’s MKULTRA program to mind control techniques that he claimed were used to control Sirhan.”

    “On August 13, 2008, Gwatney was fatally wounded when a man, identified in news reports as Timothy Dale Johnson, 50, entered Democratic Party headquarters in Little Rock, Arkansas and shot Gwatney three times. Gwatney was taken to a hospital, but died at 3:59 pm CDT.

    The gunman had said he wanted to speak with Gwatney about volunteering, but sidestepped his assistant when she said he was busy. After the shooting, the gunman fled the scene in his truck and led police on a 30-mile (48 km) chase out of Little Rock.[10] Johnson was fatally shot by police after a PIT maneuver forced him off the road into a field near Sheridan. No motive was discovered, except Johnson quitting his Target job earlier that day.”

    “She claimed, however, that Bill Clinton’s intention to unequivocally state to the public that Obama was ineligible was stopped in its tracks by the murder of a close friend of the Clintons, Arkansas Democratic Party Chairman Bill Gwatney, just two weeks before the Democratic National Convention in Denver.

    Gwatney was killed Aug. 13, 2008, when a 50-year-old man entered Democratic Party headquarters in Little Rock and shot him three times. Police killed the murderer after a chase, and investigators found no motive.

    The Clintons said in a statement that they were “stunned and shaken” by the killing of their “cherished friend and confidante.”

    Viviano said a campaign staffer who was close to Hillary, whose name she requested be withheld for security reasons, told her Gwatney’s murder was a message to Bill Clinton.

    “I was told by this person that that was ‘Shut up, Bill, or you’re next,’” she said.

    The campaign adviser, according to Viviano, said that despite the intimidation and threats, Bill Clinton was prepared to speak out about Obama’s eligibility

    “And then,” Viviano said, paraphrasing the staffer, “they went in and said, ‘OK, it’s your daughter, now, we’ll go after.’”


  6. If bo truly threatened to murder bill and chelsea clinton then why did hillary kiss bo at the DNC Convention and why did bill and hillary campaign for bo in 2008 and why are the clintons still campaigning for bo now?

  7. jacqlynsmith

    Awesome interview…..

    Ron Paul Sweeps Louisiana – Interview With Doug Wead –


    On April 25th the Tennessee State Senate voted unanimously to allow federal and state law enforcement officials full access to the medical records of the citizens of Tennessee. According to SB 2407, “…state and federal law enforcement personnel authorized to have access under 53-10-306 shall be permitted to have real time electronic access to the database…” The statute continues by stating that access is permitted “without the necessity of obtaining a search warrant.” It is a law which is scheduled to go into effect on July 1, 2012 as “the public welfare [requires] it.”

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  9. Why ?

    ‘THE THREAT’ remains.

  10. Obama caught lying again…..


    Not a good week for the dog eating Brit

    Romney: ‘Even Jimmy Carter’ Would Have Made Bin Laden Call

  11. cabby–I heard from a Vet that the VA/Feds want medical records to see if a person has depression, PTSD, mental disorders, etc, and if so, they will make a report, and take your guns away. Now at the VA, the Docs are starting to ask if you have any guns, and what kind. They are trying to disarm We the People, and collect intel. Scary times…

  12. truthbetold11

    the truth is there but the media controls the lies

  13. truthbetold11

    the want a crisis to make sure they win next election

  14. truthbetold11 | April 30, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    the truth is there but the media controls the lies
    Truth, that is a very aptly put, succinct, true statement!

  15. It looks like bo’s killing of the fake “osama” wag the dog stunt is going to cause more terrorist attacks in the US.


    With the anniversary of Osama bin Laden’s death looming, American and European authorities told ABC News today that they fear al Qaeda may soon try to explode U.S.-bound aircraft with explosives hidden inside the bodies of terrorists.

  16. LB – “Now at the VA, the Docs are starting to ask if you have any guns, and what kind. They are trying to disarm We the People, and collect intel. Scary times…”
    Yes, I’ve heard similar reports, too. It’s coming gradually but surely unless someone puts on the brakes.

  17. GORDO | April 30, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
    Why ?

    ‘THE THREAT’ remains.
    GORDO, I was going to say in essence the same thing. Whatever muzzled the mouths of the Clintons re. O’s lack of eligibility is the same that influences their behavior since then – FEAR.

  18. jacqlynsmith

    Dr. Paul does a great job on this FED SHILL…..what a joke!!!!

    Ron Paul VS Paul Krugman 4-30-12 FULL Bloomberg

  19. jacqlynsmith

    YAY…IN IT TO WIN IT…….AND NO….we’re NOT endorsing the flip-flopper….

    Ron Paul Vows To Stay In 2012 Race Until ‘All the Votes Are Counted’; Dodges Romney Endorsement Question


  20. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I know, I know, I should “let this go”, but I’m sorry, I just can’t:

    On April 30 at 9:38am, “a certain someone” (if you use their name or initials you go to moderation), commented this:

    “I was not for Gov. Romney initially, but I am 100% behind him now regardless of who his VP pick is.”

    Really, and later you claim that I am “an Anti-American Traitor” because I am NOT willing to step on the Constitution, but YOU are supposed to be some kind of “patriot” for admitting you will support an INeligible candidate if he is put on the ballot?

    Then that “certain someone” comments this:

    “The survival of this nation depends on the election of Gov Romney.”

    Not really, that actual truth is we have made it through almost 4 years of BO, and IF he is re-elected, I am confident that we will make it through that also. It really depends on who is elected to CONGRESS.

    And then that “certain someone” concludes with this:

    “It is as simple as that. Anyone who is not for Gov Romney at this point is obviously an Anti-American Traitor.”

    Well, I guess I’d be put in moderation if I made such a comment about YOU “certain someone”, but let me comment this:

    I spent 20 years in the military defending YOUR right to post such crap as this, and I’d do it again.

    For you to suggest that I am ANYTHING but an informed voter who cares deeply about this Country, but am NOT willing to overlook my PRINCIPLES simply to elect the “lesser of two evils”, speaks VOLUMES for YOU “certain someone”.

    You suggest I am a “traitor”, but YOU are the one advocating voting for someone INeligible.

    But what REALLY got my goat was this comment by CW himself at 10:39am:

    “Free Speech.
    Well put.”

    REALLY CW????

    You agree with that “certain someone”?? (I’ll probably be put in moderation simply for copying and pasting what CW commented)

    You think it’s alright to PERSONALLY attack me? You think it’s “Well put” for this “certain someone” to come here and call people “an Anti-American Traitor” for disagreeing with who the “establishment” has chosen to go up against this man who we KNOW is INeligible. And you think it’s “Well put” to put all of your hard work in “outting” this President, but yet you are wiling to throw YOUR principles in the trash can and vote for Romney whether he puts an INeligible candidate on the ballot with him or not?

    Well CW, I find that a bit hypocritical.

    I’m sorry folks, but I can’t sit here and allow ANYONE to suggest that I am any LESS of an American simply because I won’t “go along to get along”.

    I have advocated ONE candidate from day one, but was willing to look at other candidates that I could also support. Romney never was one of those that I could support, and because of that, I am labled “an Anti-American Traitor” and the owner of the blog advocates a “certain someone” calling me that.

    I remember a time not so long ago when someone on this blog personally attacked this “certain someone” and was “told” by CW to appologise and then was blocked from commenting.

    It is rather obvious that CW allows SOME personal attacks, as long as it’s posted against someone that supports a candidate that CW doesn’t support.

    I think this is disgusting.

  21. citizenwells

    Obama being reelected is not an option!!!!

  22. Interested Bystander | April 30, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
    IB, we both know that there are some things you and I have not agreed upon. However, I am glad that you have spoken your mind, and there are others here, including me, who would agree with your sentiments.

    Here is the point that came to me when I read the post you refer to: The shoe doesn’t fit me, you or any other patriot who sincerely has a difference of opinion. I refuse to wear that shoe…..and others should, too.

    Why should we empower that type of thinking? It is just a personal OPINION – That does not make it FACT!! I know in my soul what the facts are as they concern me, just as you do those that concern you. That statement is not meant in any way to stifle your freedom of expression. It just explains why I let it fall by the wayside.

  23. Interested Bystander


    I agree, the comment doesn’t really bother me in the least.

    What bothers me is that the owner of the blog allows such one sided personal attacks.

    I would have “let it go” if the owner of the blog didn’t chime in with his “Well put” comment.

  24. Interested Bystander


    I have to ask:

    To what extent are you willing to go to stand by your comment:

    “Obama being reelected is not an option!!!!”

    Are you willing to stoop to the tactics of the Obama campaign?

    And if you are……..

  25. Mitt Romney’s top 20 contributors:


    Goldman Sachs $564,580
    JPMorgan Chase & $400,675
    Bank of America $364,850
    Morgan Stanley $363,550
    Credit Suisse Group $316,160
    Citigroup Inc $286,015
    Kirkland & Ellis $235,802
    Barclays $229,650
    PricewaterhouseCoopers $208,750
    HIG Capital $191,000
    Wells Fargo $183,100
    UBS AG $182,500
    Blackstone Group $179,550
    Bain Capital $151,500
    EMC Corp $129,200
    Citadel Investment Group $125,625
    Bain & Co $122,800
    Elliott Management $118,475
    Sullivan & Cromwell $108,650
    Ernst & Young $104,750

  26. “Interested Bystander | April 30, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
    Hey All,”……..

    IB, from a fellow Vet, God bless you man. You are a true patriot. Thanks for standing by your principals.

  27. If Ron Paul isn’t running in the general and people refuse to vote for Mitt Romney, that will be the same as voting for Obama. Ron Paul’s chances of winning the Republican primary are a long shot at this point, but if he wins I will vote for him. Because this scenario doesn’t seem likely, I am getting behind Mitt Romney as our best chance to remove Obama. While I find the individual who made the original comment to be unsavory and merely looking for a fight, I know that CW doesn’t condemn others for their view points. In this case, I agree with CW that Obama winning cannot be an option. There is a huge difference between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama.

  28. Better our unconstitutional occupants in the White House, than theirs, huh?

    And just for the record, I have never been a RP supporter. But I can’t wait to vote for him in the Texas primary. And I am hearing the same thing from a lot of folks that I never thought I would hear say that. If the ba$tards in the MSM did their job, we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place.

  29. Paxson;
    There is a huge difference between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama.

    Please list the HUGE difference

    Both are NOT natural born citizens.
    both have the same policies

  30. Good for you, Ray. If Paul finds a way to win the Republican primary I will vote for him. At this point it seems like a long shot. In what way is Mitt Romney unconstitutional?

  31. Mitt Romney is a natural born citizen.

  32. Mitt Romney IS NOT a natural born citizen!

    The Romney family Genealogy/History is recorded as the following:

    “In 1885, President John Taylor advised Brother Romney to go to Mexico, to help establish settlements there. He was to first take with him only one of his families, the one with the fewest children. Hannah stayed in St. Johns, Arizona. In 1886, Brother Romney sent his eighteen-year-old son, Will, back from Mexico to bring Hannah to the colonies. She traveled alone with her children in a wagon from St. Johns, Arizona to the colonies of Mexico through Indian territory.”

    Miles Romney lived in Mexico as a Mexican citizen for the next two decades and until his death in 1904. Miles is buried in Colonia Dublan, Chihuahua, Mexico.

    This is where Gaskell Romney also became a Mexican citizen. He married his wife in Colonia Dublan.

    Wikipedia states of the Colonia Dublan colony: “In 1888, George M. Brown of Provo, Utah made a deal with German-Mexican Lewis Huller for 73,000 acres (300 km2) of land north of what was then the Casas Grandes River. The colony, which was originally called Colonia Huller, was first settled by George Lake, a Mormon colonist, with many others following in the spring of 1889.[1] However, due to a problem with the deal between Brown and Huller, titles to the land could not be given to them. Instead, the colonists were forced to rent from the native population or make their own individual purchases. When it was founded, the nearest train station to the colony was Gallego, 110 miles (180 km) away. Since a large percentage of goods consumed by the colony had to be imported from the United States, prices were high. In 1897, a railroad was built from Ciudad Juárez to a point twelve miles (19 km) outside of Dublán. The railroad proved extremely valuable for the colony, as goods could be cheaply imported and exported.[2]
    The community was also the birth place of Michigan Governor George W. Romney, father of 2012 Presidential candidate Mitt Romney.”

    There is no doubt that George W. Romney is NOT a citizen of the United States. And there are no records showing George Romney’s father ever to have been re-patrioted. At least I can find no such record.

    A Boston Globe News webpage states:”After fleeing the Mexican revolution, Mitt Romney’s grandfather, Gaskell lost his home and possessions…”

    As best as I can determine, Gaskell and this son, George came back to the US and renounced their Mexican citizenship. Once they did this all of their Mexican property and possessions were confiscated.

    The Gaskell website continues: “Gaskell sued Mexico for the loss of his property and, in 1938, was awarded damages of $9,163.”


    The big question is this…how did George and Gaskell Romney get their US Citizenship back if they still had it at all? If Gaskell (son) and Miles Park Romney (father) who were both Mexican citizens how could they transfer US Citizenship to George Romney? Mitt Romney, however, may be a birthright baby because he fell under the 14th Amendment (I doubt they were under the jurisdiction of the US) but it is absolutely clear that Mitt Romney is NOT a Natural Born Citizen unless he can prove that George Romney gained citizenship from naturalization prior to Mitt’s birth in 1947. I have found no records showing this to be the case.

    Edward C. Noonan
    President 2012


  33. While it can be argued that George Romney was not natural born, it appears to me that Mitt is natural born.

  34. One of the candidates is not an anti-American Neo-Soviet communist muzzie bastard. Just saying.

  35. Ok wells moderator , I give up, adios!

  36. New Obama slogan has long ties to Marxism, socialism


    The Obama campaign apparently didn’t look backwards into history when selecting its new campaign slogan, “Forward” — a word with a long and rich association with European Marxism.

    Many Communist and radical publications and entities throughout the 19th and 20th centuries had the name “Forward!” or its foreign cognates. Wikipedia has an entire section called “Forward (generic name of socialist publications).”

    “The name Forward carries a special meaning in socialist political terminology. It has been frequently used as a name for socialist, communist and other left-wing newspapers and publications,” the online encyclopedia explains.

  37. Hi Observer,

    Thanks for posting this.

    The Washington Times is dead wrong; the Obama ‘campaign’ knew exactly what it was doing when they chose ‘Forward.’ as their little slogan

    Do they think we’re stupid???

  38. Pretty iinteresting article theorizing why people get tattoos, and why the number of people getting tattoos is increasing. Judging by the many people who have responded, it seems that a lot of people are getting tattoos as yet another way of claiming discrimination. That is, whenever anyone says that tattoos are silly or stupid, the tattooed person can turn around and claim the person is a bigot and intolerant of tattooed persons. It is yet another in a long line of examples of our growing grievance culture, the idea being that we must accept all persons no matter how different they may be. They are inviting confrontation. One commentator at the site said, “If you don’t like my tattoos don’t look at them!” Yeah, just like the black kids walking down the middle of the street daring you to honk at them or get too close, or yell “Get out of the street!” Yep, they’ll take that opportunity to call you a racist. This stuff is getting out hand.


  39. Interested Bystander | April 30, 2012 at 8:11 pm |

    Did you not know that at one time the talk was that FS ‘was’ CW for a while; or FS took over the blog??
    Lots of posters left; the blog went to hell; one could tell that CW wasn’t submitting the material; different verbage and comments just didn’t sound like CW.
    Check with others who left–see what you discover!!

  40. Posted April 30, 2012

    © 2012 jbjd

    “This morning, kjcanon, from Arlington; and Native Texan, from Calvert; met in Austin with Attorney Keith Ingram, Election Director, Texas Secretary of State, for what kjc and NT had schedule would be an “in-depth” discussion of “the Texas election process.” …”


  41. “I believe to fix our country, it will take work, but it doesn’t take sacrifice.
    People say, oh to get over this we all have to sacrifice.
    If I return your liberty to you, give you the chance to work hard and keep what you earn. Keep the govt. out of your life, out of your wallet, out of your bedroom, and leave you alone. That’s not sacrifice.”…Ron Paul

    I heard Romney was Obama light.

  42. GORDO | April 30, 2012 at 11:41 pm |

    Posted April 30, 2012

    © 2012 jbjd

    “This morning, kjcanon, from Arlington; and Native Texan, from Calvert; met in Austin with Attorney Keith Ingram, Election Director, Texas Secretary of State, for what kjc and NT had scheduled would be an “in-depth” discussion of “the Texas election process.” …”

    Thank you for posting this here. Again, I hope people here, share this link on those blogs which do not post my work but which are surely trafficked by Texans (and others) who could greatly benefit from this particular post.

  43. Free Speech


    Serving and former US Navy SEALs have slammed President Barack Obama for taking the credit for killing Osama bin Laden and accused him of using Special Forces operators as ‘ammunition’ for his re-election campaign.

  44. Free Speech


    Chris Kyle, a former SEAL sniper with 160 confirmed and another 95 unconfirmed kills to his credit, said: ‘The operation itself was great and the nation felt immense pride. It was great that we did it.

    ‘But bin Laden was just a figurehead. The war on terror continues. Taking him out didn’t really change anything as far as the war on terror is concerned and using it as a political attack is a cheap shot.

    ‘In years to come there is going to be information that will come out that Obama was not the man who made the call. He can say he did and the people who really know what happened are inside the Pentagon, are in the military and the military isn’t allowed to speak out against the commander- in-chief so his secret is safe.’

  45. Free Speech

    citizenwells | April 30, 2012 at 8:25 pm |

    Obama being reelected is not an option!!!!

  46. Folks,

    We don’t need a birth certificate or the Constitution to tell us who the real Americans are. Mr. Soetoro has proven he is not a citizen. Mr. Romney has proven he is also not a citizen. I have my doubts about Mr. Paul and the others. Vote. Yes, we know the elections are corrupted. But when you vote for the one you feel is best for the nation, take satisfaction in knowing you did your civic and Godly duties.

    Citizens prove themselves through responsible action. Citizens fight for the people of this nation. Citizens unify our country by gathering other citizens to fight for causes that benefit our nation. Those who profess they are citizens while giving our country away to foreigners are traitors. Those who divide our citizens by race, denomination, skin color, or religious preference are also traitors. Those who profess they know all the answers are hypocrites. Those who sell our future children and their prosperity down the river are better off jumping into the river with shoes made of cement. No matter what we do, we all need to keep our children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren in our heart, our souls, and our plans. They do not deserve to suffer a burden they didn’t create.

    Reach out to your neighbors. Teach them the truth. Tell them you are there for them, especially when the government attempts to take away their dignity, pride, and love for others. Sit down with your children and grandchildren. Tell them you will fight for them. Let them know they are loved and cherished.

    We are far from done in this fight. Grab pitchforks and golf clubs if you have to. Whatever it takes to take down the beast and his minions. Remember this. God is with you, and that is what matters. None of the trials and tribulations we face now matter in the grand scheme of life or the afterlife. Do what you can. Press on.

  47. SEALs slam Obama for using them as ‘ammunition’ in bid to take credit for bin Laden killing during election campaign
    Serving and former US Navy SEALs have slammed President Barack Obama for taking the credit for killing Osama bin Laden and accused him of using Special Forces operators as ‘ammunition’ for his re-election campaign.

    The SEALs spoke out to MailOnline after the Obama campaign released an ad entitled ‘One Chance’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137636/SEALs-slam-Obama-using-ammunition-bid-credit-bin-Laden-killing-election-campaign.html#ixzz1tbJ2v45c

  48. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Good morning CW, Zach and all here at Citizen WElls

    I can’t believe how hypocritical it is for Bill Clinton being on a commercial talking about making the decision to take out bin Laden.

    He sure couldn’t do it when given the chance, but yet there he is telling the Country how much “more” of a “man” Obama is for making that “tough” decision.

    And don’t forget, Obama also made the decision to take out an AMERICAN CITIZEN without “due process”.

    But that’s the Country we have become.

  49. Mr. Clean | May 1, 2012 at 3:30 am | Did Senior Military/Intelligence
    Officials Overrule President Obama Regarding Mission to Kill Osama Bin Laden?

    Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/did-senior-militaryintelligence-officials-overrule-president-obama-regarding-mission-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/#ixzz1taisQYCx

  50. citizenwells


    Submitted on 2012/04/30 at 11:34 pm
    Interested Bystander | April 30, 2012 at 8:11 pm |

    “Did you not know that at one time the talk was that FS ‘was’ CW for a while; or FS took over the blog??
    Lots of posters left; the blog went to hell; one could tell that CW wasn’t submitting the material; different verbage and comments just didn’t sound like CW.
    Check with others who left–see what you discover!!”

    That is a lie.

  51. Good morning CW. I have to say I agree with the position that if Romney is nominated, I will support him. Heck – I’ll send a few dollars his way. He’s not my choice but Obama is not an option. I’d rather be on the slow track to losing our liberty. I’m old enough that maybe I won’t have to see it happen.

    I posted the article about the SEALS being upset with Obama in a few places this morning.

    One SEAL’s career makes one think.
    …”Chris Kyle, a former SEAL sniper with 160 confirmed and another 95 unconfirmed kills to his credit, said: ‘The operation itself was great and the nation felt immense pride. It was great that we did it. “…

    I wonder what this guy’s dreams at night must be like? A lot of crosshairs, etc. I suppose. Things I don’t really want to imagine. I’m certainly thankful for his service that will probably never end.

  52. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  53. Free Speech


    Where is the mainstream media’s coverage of the shocking “memo” issued by nine state attorneys general detailing 21 specific violations of law by the Obama administration?

  54. Free Speech


    Brit Hume said on FOX News on Monday. “For example, the Gallup Organization asked people just after the raid last year who they thought should receive ‘a great deal of credit’ for it. Eighty-nine percent, as you can see, said the military. Sixty-two percent said the CIA. Only 35 percent said President Obama.

  55. Free Speech


    1) Before last Sunday’s raid, every intelligence analyst, geopolitical commentator or head of state worth their salt was on record as stating that Osama Bin Laden was already dead, and that he probably died many years ago, from veteran CIA officer Robert Baer, to former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, to former FBI head of counterterrorism Dale Watson. In addition, back in 2002 Alex Jones was told directly by two separate high level sources that Bin Laden was already dead and that his death would be announced at the most politically opportune moment. Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under five different Presidents, serving as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under the Nixon, Ford and Carter, told the Alex Jones Show last week that Bin Laden died of marfan syndrome shortly after he was visited by CIA physicians at the American Hospital in Dubai in July 2001.

  56. Free Speech

  57. http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2008/aug/08081209

    Just a reminder to some and perhaps news to others. This shows what a monster we have installed with such power over human beings..and the most vulnerable of them:

    How Babies Were Left to Die: Nurse Recounts Horrors of Infanticide Practice Barack Obama Protected

    I also recall reading that the “rev.” Wright was on the board of this hosptial….”Christ” hospital of all names!

  58. Free Speech


    Barack Obama is desperately milking the one year anniversary of the killing of Osama Bin Laden even though the entire episode was a hoax from start to finish. Check out the plethora of evidence below.

  59. Free Speech


    I sense the tide is turning on this story and unless Obama drops it quickly, it will redound in Romney’s favor. No one likes a braggart – especially one who fails to give proper credit to the true heroes in this story while making it appear that one’s opponent has less courage.

    It is a shabby, ugly political ploy and blowing up in Obama’s face would be a deserving outcome.

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/05/seals_slam_obama_for_giving_himself_credit_for_bin_laden_raid.html#ixzz1tcq6dYgk

  60. bob strauss

    Obama and his ploy to use the Bin Laden story as campaign fodder is making himself transparent, and exposing him as the piss poor candidate he really is. Transparency is something he promised in his first election. I don’t think he meant it this way.

    As Obama gets more desperate, as he sees his chances for re election slipping away, Americans need to be on guard for what this criminal is capable of, in an effort to sway the election in his favor.

  61. According to the same Open Secrets link from above, these are Obama’s top donors. The US Dept. of State? US Government?
    (See above post for Romney’s top donors for 2012)

    Microsoft Corp $304,690
    DLA Piper $302,527
    University of California $243,486
    Sidley Austin LLP $234,611
    Google Inc $191,719
    Harvard University $177,408
    Comcast Corp $164,862
    Skadden, Arps et al $145,809
    Morgan & Morgan $130,145
    Time Warner $116,939
    US Dept of State $115,757
    Stanford University $103,483
    US Government $101,149
    Kaiser Permanente $100,100
    Mayer Brown LLP $99,657
    Jones Day $97,100
    University of Chicago $96,152
    Columbia University $95,077
    Wilmerhale Llp $93,605
    Debevoise & Plimpton $93,526

    These were his top donors for the 2008 election from Open Secrets. Looks like the big banks are lining up behind Romney. Democrats and Repubs are both owned by the Banks. So unfortunately, it doesn’t really matter who the figurehead is.

    University of California $1,648,685
    Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
    Harvard University $878,164
    Microsoft Corp $852,167
    Google Inc $814,540
    JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
    Citigroup Inc $736,771
    Time Warner $624,618
    Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
    Stanford University $595,716
    National Amusements Inc $563,798
    WilmerHale LLP $550,668
    Columbia University $547,852
    Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
    UBS AG $532,674
    IBM Corp $532,372
    General Electric $529,855
    US Government $513,308
    Morgan Stanley $512,232
    Latham & Watkins $503,295

  62. Keeping the wives of Bin Laden and children together and then shipped off to Saudi …. what does that tell you? Women have no rights what so ever in Saudi so the chance of the truth getting out that they were widowed a long time ago is zero. That is why they can not show pictures of the dead Bin Laden. Barry Soetoro would love to show off his work but he can not. All fake!

  63. citizenwells

    It matters.

  64. Interested bystander………………..
    We all know that Slick Willy was,and still is little more than SLIMEY WHITE TRASH WHO HAS A YELLOW STREAK DOWN HIS BACK AS WIDE AS HE IS. Otherwise he would have acted to take out Osama when he had the chance. But for Soetoro to say that it was HE who took out Osama is BULLSH#T of the FIRST MAGNITUDE. He might have given the order,but it was not he who carried out the alleged mission. Sadly a lot of the Seals who participated in the operation are NOW DEAD. I personally believe that they were “SILENCED”. A dead man can attest to NOTHING. Remember though,an M107 has an effective range of over 1 MILE. This is the original .50 cal M82 Barrets rifle. Used by many TRAINED snipers. If used correctly the story is “ONE SHOT”…….”ONE KILL”.

  65. Free Speech

    Ginger | May 1, 2012 at 10:25 am |

    Keeping the wives of Bin Laden and children together and then shipped off to Saudi …. what does that tell you? Women have no rights what so ever in Saudi so the chance of the truth getting out that they were widowed a long time ago is zero. That is why they can not show pictures of the dead Bin Laden. Barry Soetoro would love to show off his work but he can not. All fake!
    Exactly! If bo had truly killed “osama” last year, he would be flooding the news with DNA analysis, photos and the testimony of osama’s family.

    Furthermore, all bo’s grandstanding about the fake killing of “osama” is doing is making the US more vulnerable to a terrorist attack in retaliation for bo’s wag the dog stunts.

  66. Free Speech


    KABUL — President Obama arrived in Afghanistan Tuesday on an unannounced visit to meet with President Hamid Karzai, TOLONews reported, citing Afghan officials.

    ISAF would only confirm that a “high-level delegation” had arrived in the Afghan capital.

  67. Obama’s New Campaign Slogan “Forward!” Is a Hitler Youth Marching Tune (Video)


  68. Coming to this site every now and then…is depressing, and eye-opening.
    Commenters here actually believe your vote counts….people, it has been proven and stated repeatedly that the machines are compromised..so, why are you still on the bandwagon that it’s unpatriotic to NOT vote when it isn’t registered, but simply GIVEN to the elitists’, PTB, choice??


  69. White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
    by Ulsterman in Issues, May 3, 2011

    Q: You stated that President Obama was “overruled” by military/intelligence officials regarding the decision to send in military specialists into the Osama Bin Laden compound. Was that accurate?

    A: I was told – in these exact terms, “we overruled him.” (Obama) I have since followed up and received further details on exactly what that meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’s “persistent hesitation to act.” There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so. President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president.

    Read more:

  70. Msss.Hughes like a lot of other people might not understand very much about ACOUSTICS. In a metropolitan area such as the place where the shots were fired has masonry buildings nearby. The pressure wave generated by the first shot often resonates from nearby structures almost in the same intensity of the original shot. If you don’t believe this go to an empty movie theater,stand at the extreme back and clap your hands just once. You will quickly hear another clap but not quite in the intensity of yours. Unless Mss.Hughs has the technical understanding of this she cannot ACCURATELY say that there was a second shot much less 13 shots. For anybody to make such statements then try to prove the statement with a computer is again a FALACY. A computer indicates whatever it is PROGRAMMED to INDICATE ONLY. In the field rifles fired almost without exception generate echos which often sound like second shots. I have been a firearms enthusiast for over 60 years of my life,and I have yet to hear 13 secondary echos from a rifle shot. In addition had 13 shots been fired between more than one weapon there would have been a equal number of spent cartridge cases in fairly close proximity to the scene of the crime. In addition since there was no evidence of a second weapon, for 13 shots to have been fired would have required a weapon having a magazine holding the 13 rounds. The weapon taken from Sirhan was a REVOLVER having a capacity of either 5 or 6 rounds,dependent upon the manufacturer. Sirhan was brought down almost immediately so there would not have been an opportunity for him to reload the revolver. Had an automatic weapon been used as I stated there would have been spent cartridge cases lying in close proximity to where the shooter stood.I do not recall if he was able to empty the weapon or not. I don’t think he had the chance to empty it. I personally doubt virtually all that is being said . I see this as a POLITICAL PLOY.

  71. Help! I’m in moderation and I can’t get out!

  72. Interview of Barry Soetoro’s half sister! hehee Wonder why she was not ask where Barry was born? hmmm


  73. OT….

    Is it true that a company in Spain will be counting our votes? If true where is the anger? Why is Romney or Ron Paul so quiet about it?

  74. J2J2…………………….
    I don’t know who is trying to speak for me regarding how I feel regarding my voting activities but whoever it is, is DEAD WRONG. ONLY I know how I will vote………one way or the other! Further anybody who believes somebody who is allegedly speaking for another person could easily discover that the alleged spokesman DIDN’T HAVE A CLUE. So if you want a potentially accurate answer to a question you should seek out the person,or persons that your question concerns and ask HIM/HER/THEM. You are much more likely to get the truth,if they answer you at all.

  75. “Author Tom Ballantyne Confronts Saddlebrook Republican Candidates About Obama’s Eligibility”


  76. Free Speech

    bo has totally blown President Bush’s successful war on Terror. 11 years after President Bush successfully rid afghanistan of terrorists, bo has screwed up so badly that he must cowardly sneak into kabul in the dead of night.


  77. Free Speech


    A series of explosions followed by sustained gunfire have shaken the Afghan capital Kabul in what appears to be a co-ordinated attack on two areas frequented by Afghan government officials and their international allies.
    So what is to stop the Taliban from attacking the airport where bo landed af1 today in his cowardly sneak visit to kabul? bo’s behavior is becoming increasingly reckless as his crack cocaine abuse accelerates.

  78. Free Speech

    So what is with the msm news blackout regarding bo’s sneak visit to kabul?
    Only Fox, New York Post and Australian outlets are reporting.


  79. Free Speech


    Many legal analysts and scholars agree with this take– and until the Supreme Court weighs in.. this is how the law is interpreted:

    The Constitution requires that the president be a “natural born citizen,” but does not define the term. That job is left to federal law, in 8 U.S. Code, Section 1401. All the law requires is that the mother be an American citizen who has lived in the U.S. for five years or more, at least two of those years after the age of 14. If the mother fits those criteria, the child is a U.S. citizen at birth, regardless of the father’s nationality.

    The brouhaha over President Obama’s birth Error! Hyperlink reference not valid. — has revealed a widespread ignorance of some of the basics of American citizenship. The Constitution, of course, requires that a president be a “natural born citizen,” but the Founding Fathers did not define the term, and it appears few people know what it means.

    The law lists several categories of people who are considered American citizens at birth. There are the people born inside the United States; no question there. There are the people who are born outside the United States to parents who are both citizens, provided one of them has lived in the U.S. for any period of time. There are the people who are born outside the United States to one parent who is a U.S. citizen and the other who is a U.S. national (that is, from an outlying possession of the U.S.), provided the citizen parent has lived in the United States or its possessions for at least one year prior to the birth of the child. And then there are the people who are born outside the United States to one parent who is a U.S. citizen and the other who is an alien, provided the citizen parent lived in the United States or its possessions for
    there are the people who are born outside the United States to one parent who is a U.S. citizen and the other who is an alien, provided the citizen parent lived in the United States or its possessions for at least five years, two of them after the age of 14.

    They’re all natural born U.S. citizens. That also includes people who are born in Puerto Rico and people who were born in states before they became states. Born in Hawaii in 1950, a decade before statehood? You’re a natural born U.S. citizen.

    That is how legal experts interpret the “natural born” requirement.. and how you get that status is actually pretty open. Until the Supreme Court weighs in on this issue (and there are no plans that we know of that that will happen)… — to your emails… Senator Marco Rubio and Governor Bobby Jindal are both eligible to run and become Vice President or President.

  80. Free Speech | May 1, 2012 at 9:23 am |

    Thank you for posting this vid.

    I am no fan of Alex Jones/Infowars; IMO, he’s an entertainer like Rush or any of the talking heads in the media.

    That said, I agree with what Jones shared in this vid: binLaden has been dead for years and his ‘death’ has been under wraps, ready to be trotted out when it’s politically advantageous to do so. The American people and the world had been told that for years, ‘the hunt was on.’ Sure.

    A few observations:

    Odd that 20+ members of Seal Team 6 (the unit that ‘killed’ binLaden) were killed in Afghanistan. Did they know the truth, even if they were not directly involved in the raid?

    Why were the ‘death photos’ never released. Is it because they were taken 10+ years ago when he really died? The photos that have been released were Photoshopped images of a picture of him many years ago; all you need do is check the wrinkles on his face and his hair color.

    The photos of the ‘raid’ showed his ‘associates’ dead, but never binLaden. Why?

    If barky thinks that this one incident will win him reelection, he’s wrong. It’s been proven that Panetta was the mastermind of this raid (regardless of who was killed) and had a team reporting directly to HIM and not barky. The ‘Commander-in-Chief’ only had control over his golf game that day.

    I hope the American people now see him for what he is: A two bit dictator with an I.Q. of around 51.

  81. Brett is ignoring some very important facts re NBC. He will eat his words when the SC rules on the interpretation of past law. Minor. But probably won’t ever happen until well after this election—like years. Besides they want Rubio and Jindal to be declared eligible on the basis that Obama has already been there and done that. Kind of a precedent you know? Fraud non-the-less. This NBC issue is heading for more dead ends imo. We have to vote this scam artist OUT by a landslide in Nov.

  82. The Supreme Court has already weighed in on what is a “natural-born citizen”……at least 5 times..

    Read what Supreme Court decision Minor vs Happerset has to say on the subject. In a nut shell:

    1. born on US soil
    2. born of 2 parents who were US citizens at the time of birth

    Case closed

  83. Free Speech

    cjzak | May 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm |

    I agree. SCOTUS is not going to rule that Senator Rubio is ineligible if Gov Romney/Senator Rubio beat bo in Nov.

  84. Free Speech

    The American People have a right to know about bo’s joy-riding af1 to kabul. Why is there a msm media blackout? Did bo get stuck at the kabul airport for inspection by the Taliban?

  85. Free Speech


    Most Americans realize that today marks the one-year anniversary of Osama bin Laden’s death at the hands of courageous Navy SEALs. Yet many of the same citizens, conditioned by a national media that pays scant attention to the military’s daily sacrifices, probably don’t realize that 2012’s bloodiest month of fighting in Afghanistan has just concluded.

  86. Free Speech

    SueK | May 1, 2012 at 1:32 pm |

    Thank U, SueK! I trust you will forgive me for my negative comments about Gov. Romney. I am a Southern Man, born and raised, thus Perry was my preference until his repeated numb-skull episodes were too much to ignore.

    The thing I admire most about Gov. Romney is that he trashed all his opponents. I trust he will do the same to bo. I hope a SuperPac will expose bo as the homosexual pervert that he is, not because I am prejudiced against gays, but because bo’s downlow lifestyle will destroy his support in the Church going Afro-American community.

  87. Free Speech



  88. Free Speech


    The long-awaited and controversial strategic pact between Afghanistan and the United States was drafted on Sunday and made ready for inking by President Hamid Karzai and his U.S. counterpart Barack Obama.

    The critical pact was drafted only days after Taliban militants fighting Afghan and NATO-led forces, in their latest offensive, carried out multi-pronged attacks in the capital city Kabul and three more cities on April 15, leaving 48 people dead including 36 attackers and 65 others injured including 25 civilians.

  89. Free Speech

    Now the bo regime is scrubbing all stories of bo’s cowardly secret trip to kabul from the internet.

  90. Free Speech | May 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm |

    You’re welcome, FS.

    No problem with negative comments directed toward Mitt; we all have our own perferences. As you may remember, I reside in MA and he was my Governor. Things were very good here under his leadership; he was left to clean up the fiscal mess the Dems left behind. He left us with a budget surplus at the end of his term, which our current ‘Governor,’ ‘Cadillac’ Deval Patrick has pi*sed away, sending us into a multi million dollar fiscal hole. Jobs (both in the public and private sectors) and essential services have been cut; businesses now find it too expensive to operate here, and are leaving. Thank you, ‘Coupe’ Deval; one of barky’s VERY good friends!

    One thing I will mention to you that not many know is regarding RomneyCare. There were several provisions in the bill which Mitt vetoed; the individual mandate was one of them. He didn’t feel it was the right way to approach health care, and the citizens of MA agreed. The problem was with our ever-present Dem legislature: What Mitt vetoed in that bill, they overrode. The law in MA is as we see it today *because of the legislature,* not Gov. Romney. Just wanted to say that.

    Our focus is to get behind whoever the (R) nominee is (even if he’s not our cup o’tea) and get the illegal, usurping dictator out of the White House. If the nominee was Perry, Santorum, Cain, etc., I would support them with every fiber of my being, even if their platform didn’t mesh with mine; we must look a the big picture, here!

    I hope you’re right and that EVERY aspect of barky’s administration, personality, and ‘leanings’ will be exposed. My dream is to see him do the perp walk through the Rose Garden in shackles. Wouldn’t that be loverly????

  91. Free Speech

    It’s too late for the bo regime to attempt to scrub the news of bo’s cowardly secret joy-ride to kabul. Thanks to internet reports, the whole wide world knows that bo is in kabul.

  92. Free Speech


    KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) –
    President Barack Obama made a previously unannounced visit to Afghanistan on Tuesday, the first anniversary of the U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden in neighboring Pakistan.

    On his third trip to Afghanistan since taking office, Obama will meet with Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai and make a televised address from Afghanistan at 7:30 p.m. ET.

  93. Free Speech

    SueK | May 1, 2012 at 3:10 pm |

    I agree 100% and I long to see bo and his criminal co-conspirators indicted prosecuted and convicted of all their crimes.

  94. Free Speech | May 1, 2012 at 3:21 pm |


    Tell him to stand in line???LMFAO

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