Moammar Gaddafi killed, Qaddafi killed by gunshots, October 20, 2011, Moammar Gaddafi AKA Muammar Gaddafi AKA Muammar Qaddafi

 Moammar Gaddafi killed, Qaddafi killed by gunshots, October 20, 2011, Moammar Gaddafi  AKA  Muammar Gaddafi AKA Muammar Qaddafi

From the Washington Post October 20, 2011.

“Big news at daybreak: Moammar Gaddafi has been either captured or killed. On CNN they showed a graphic AFP photo of what appears to be a very bloodied (dead??) Gaddafi. Identity not yet confirmed. Situation fluid at this point so consider all information suspect. No word from White House yet. I’ll post some links:

Here’s the mainbar by the Post. Conflicting reports but state Libyan TV says Gaddafi is dead.

Someone named Abdel Majid Mlegta with the National Transitional Council told Reuters that Gaddafi was shot in the head. But the report is fuzzy: It says Gaddafi was “captured” after he was found in a hole and said “Don’t shoot, don’t shoot.” So perhaps he wasn’t persuasive at that point.

On CNN, Libya information minister Mammoud Shamman just said that Gaddafi is dead. Doesn’t know how. He’s fuzzy too. Here’s the CNN blog.”

Moammar Gaddafi  AKA  Muammar Gaddafi AKA Muammar Qaddafi

73 responses to “Moammar Gaddafi killed, Qaddafi killed by gunshots, October 20, 2011, Moammar Gaddafi AKA Muammar Gaddafi AKA Muammar Qaddafi

  1. I guess this means al qaeda/muslim brotherhood can tighten their grip on Lybia.

    From your last post:

    Mr. Bill – The good news is that with Rubio the media can’t avoid the citizenship of parents issue. Last month I wrote an article that urged Rubio to seek a declaratory judgment from a federal court. I was exploring the idea raised by Lame Cherry involving a situation particular to Cuba and Rubio’s parents. At the time, Cuba enjoyed some sort of special status as a US protectorate. Interesting. Taken with the Justice’s (Scalia?) statement that they were avoiding the issue, this idea could be something the SCOTUS might entertain because they might want to use the opportunity to justifiably extend the meaning of a natural born citizen to include those born to parents who came from a country in turmoil and having a protected status. The idea would be that there could be no conflicted allegiance involving Cuba that the time that would threaten the allegiance to the US and that the Founders with such a ‘Cuba’ situation would also see it that way.

    It is good that the right issue might be discussed.


    Chicago Daily Observer wrote an important article today in regards to Rosenbergs testimony at the Cellini trial….Rosenberg testified that he was told (mystery person) that Tony Rezko wanted %40 of the MGM casino contract….Who told him this??? Eric Holder…

  3. Dr. Orly is raising the special Rubio issue on her site:

    I think this is a (the) way to get this before a court.

    Take care,


  4. edit on first comment – Libya not Lybia

  5. My question is will Obama dump Qaddafi body in the ocean like did with Bin Laden?

  6. Forger-in-Chief Strikes Again: Obama’s DOE Altered Loan Program Related Press Releases


    This is hilarious! Obama campaign who has the lofty goals of raising $1 Billion dollars is asking artist to work for FREE!!! Seriously…this guy is soooo full of himself…

  8. I linked to Dr. Orly on the military blog and freerepublic.
    A possible solution for Rubio regarding the eligibility issue. He may be a natural born citizen.
    Dr. Orly Taitz ^ | Oct. 20, 2011 | Zach Jones

    Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:52:13 AM by ZachJones

    Important constitutional issues regarding Rubio: does a child of political refuges have split allegiance?

    ….Prominent birther, Orly Taitzrecently met with Sen. Rubio’s staff during a visit to Washington. “We need the court to finally adjudicate this issue, who is a natural born citizen,” Taitz, a California dentist and lawyer told the St. Petersburg Times. … Yesterday I was interviewed at length in regards to Marco Rubio and other issues by Alex Leary, reporter from St. Petersbug times. I have to say, that he was very well informed and respectful during the interview, far outcry from many other reporters and I will continue my dialog with this reporter on a number of other issues. Here is an important Constitutional conundrum, relating to Rubio’s eligibility: Does a child of political refuges, who can’t go back to his parents country of origin, have split allegiance and ineligible to be the US president? I believe, that this issue needs to be taken by the Supreme Court and adjudicated, as it is an important Constitutional question….

    (Excerpt) Read more at …


  9. Judicial Watch uncovers 26 additional deaths caused by Gardisil with many more cases of terrible side-effects through the FOIA from Food and Drug administration.

  10. Thanks James; This is frightening, I have a 17 year old daughter…

  11. I have researched the Cuban protectorate thing before,

    Rubio is not NBC, the end.

    This lame Cherry person is living in fantasy land.

    Read the Treaty’s yourself , there not hard to find.

    Rubio’s parents, like most cubans, were hoping for a quick overthrow of Castro and a return to Cuba. Rubio’s parents did not naturalize until years after they were here.

  12. A possible solution for Rubio regarding the eligibility issue. He may be a natural born citizen.
    Dr. Orly Taitz ^

    Maybe best she sticks to “O” document fraud.

  13. According to Justice Scalia not long ago at a college Q and A he said that anyone BORN in the USA regardlesss of where their parents are from or if their parents are citizens IS eligible to be president. He’s speaking from the highest court in the land so any lawsuit claiming otherwise will never be successful. I’m looking for the quote now. I was there with about 200 other students. So both Rubio and Obama are both legally eligible per Justice Scalia.

  14. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Paxson | October 20, 2011 at 9:19 am |

    I can’t believe that we walk daily amongst psychopaths like that Humphrey character who posted here.

    What would he do if a President Herman Cain had him arrested for being a USURPER??? And TH too for making a threat?

  15. Wasn’t it Bill Clinton and the D rats who signed Nafta into law?

    Welcome mexican dope smugglers and gun runners !

    You can now drive straight through !

  16. .It seems the usurper is driving these loons to violence, how sad.

    The Humphrey | October 19, 2011 at 9:59 pm |
    Joe Arpaio and every other sheriff knows for a fact that the black population (me included) will blow their heads off if they try to arrest Obama.

    Care to turn me into the feds for saying this? Please do. They will laugh in your face.

  17. Rubio embellishing his life story:
    CDR Kerchner:

    “UPDATE 27 May 2011: Copy of Sep 1975 Petition for Naturalization for Mario Rubio, father of Senator Marco Rubio who was born in May 1971, more than four (4) years before his father elected to become a U.S. Citizen and renounce his Cuban citizenship. Also note that his father came to the USA in May 1956, seven months before Castro’s ill fated invasion of Cuba from Mexico in Dec 1956, and more than three years before Castro took over Cuba. Thus Senator Marco Rubio is not telling the truth when he says in his Senate biography that his parents came to the USA after Castro’s take over of Cuba. They were not Cuban refugees escaping communist Cuba as he said in embellishing his life story in many of his election campaigns:”

  18. “Rosenberg is off the stand. Government calling its last witness in Cellini case.

    Ending safely: Molly Phalen, onetime teacher, TRS trustee, is prosecution’s final witness in Cellini case. ”

  19. Gaddafi was captured and summarily executed. Video:


  20. Prosecution rests in Cellini case.

  21. Off topic, but extremely important:

  22. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Denny | October 20, 2011 at 12:41 pm |

    According to Justice Scalia not long ago at a college Q and A he said that anyone BORN in the USA regardlesss of where their parents are from or if their parents are citizens IS eligible to be president


  23. Here’s the quote for you, Mr. Bill.

  24. Interesting comment.
    The Humphrey suggests the cold blooded murder of law enforcement officials, if they attempt to enforce any unspecified laws.
    Does that mean Obie is above the law (in this person’s opinion)?
    Does that mean race trumps the rule of law? or it is some other form of loyalty?

    I doubt that the good sheriff would be deterred by such threats, because he is a man of principle, willing to do what is good and right even at a high personal cost.

    Attitudes like that, if pervasive, could explain the decades of political turmoil that Africa has suffered.

    At any rate, I hope that the truth is revealed about Obie. If he is innocent of the many crimes he’s been accused of, he deserves to have his name cleared. If he is not , he deserves the fullest punishment of the law, in spite of people like the Humphrey.
    The Humphrey | October 19, 2011 at 9:59 pm |
    Joe Arpaio and every other sheriff knows for a fact that the black population (me included) will blow their heads off if they try to arrest Obama.

    Care to turn me into the feds for saying this? Please do. They will laugh in your face.

  25. The Humphrey psycopath is not aware of the fact that there is such a weapon known as the M 82 Barrets (military designation M-107). There are a number of people in America who also know where,when,and how to use such a rifle. Mr. Humphrey will be a sitting DUCK. “POP”…….a neat round .50 cal. hole right between Humphrey’s eyes. If Mr. Humphrey wants to stay alive he better stay INSIDE …..OUT OF SIGHT. I would be willing to bet that law enforcement trained snipers already have his picture. Sadly about the only thing he will get to BLOW is a part of the male anatomy. He sounds a lot like a criminal SEX DEVIATE ANYWAY. Only SEX DEVIATES SUPPORT OTHER SEX DEVIATES.


  27. I’m bettingt that NONE of the Chicago A$$HOLES receive even one day in the slammer.

  28. I must have missed this one, looks like Rubio is another one that hides his foreign roots, like BHO.

  29. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Rebel Mope | October 20, 2011 at 4:12 pm |

    I could not find the quote – “he(Scalia) said that anyone BORN in the USA regardlesss of where their parents are from or if their parents are citizens IS eligible to be president”

  30. oldsalt79 | October 20, 2011 at 4:42 pm | I’m bettingt that NONE of the Chicago A$$HOLES receive even one day in the slammer.


    They can thank one Barry Soetero for that.

  31. I could not find the quote – “he(Scalia) said that anyone BORN in the USA regardlesss of where their parents are from or if their parents are citizens IS eligible to be president”


    Could be because he never said it.

    There was some audio floating around a few years back and Justice Scalia acknolwedeged the term jus soli.

    In the same conversation Justice Ginsburg expressed cocern that her grandchild born in France to American Citizens might not be eligible for POTUS.

  32. cocern


  33. Rubio citizenship article is mentioned on Front Page of Miami Herald

  34. All
    Please send to Drudge Tips, maybe we can get him to run it.

  35. Gotcha Leo… just confirmed what I just said by putting my last comment in moderation…….HAR HAR HAR HAR.

  36. I really don’t give a damn about the CW blog anyway. You took care of that. HAHAHAHAHA

  37. From:

    “An INTENSE moment of TRUTH with MAINSTREAM Media”

    An unstoppable eruption of Truth — on MSNBC!!

    * * * *

    Freedom Watch – Judge Napolitano’s Open Letter to Occupy Wall Street Oct 13, 2011

    An Excellent Comment:

    October 20, 2011 at 8:00 am

    We will be most impressed if he writes an open letter to congress and his fellow judges to ask why they are silent on the obama constitutional eligibility issue.”

    * * * *


    Judge Napolitano Freedom Watch “Operation Fast & Furious” Obama knew, Holder, DOJ, ATF

    “Judge Napolitano on Freedom Watch “The Plain Truth”
    “Operation Fast & Furious” Obama knew, Holder, DOJ, ATF should be

    * * * *


    Judge Napolitano Freedom Watch “Operation Fast & Furious” Obama knew, Holder, DOJ, ATF

    “Judge Napolitano on Freedom Watch “The Plain Truth”
    “Operation Fast & Furious” Obama knew, Holder, DOJ, ATF should be

  39. Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano: The 4th Amendment Killed Overnight

    * * * *

    Banned Incredible Ron Paul Video

    Ron Paul starts at about 6:00 mark. Ron Paul: “I am Ron Paul. I am the Champion Of The Constitution.”

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  40. Ron Paul: No Income Tax!

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    Media Caught Lying, Ron Paul is a winner!! – Media Bias…


    Joseph Farah
    Between The Lines
    WorldNetDaily Exclusive Commentary
    © 2011
    October 19, 2011


    “I don’t always agree with Pat Buchanan, but his new book, “Suicide of a Superpower,” is 100 percent spot on.

    It should be the wake-up call Americans need to understand that the nation and civilization they have lived in all their lives is rapidly crumbling and simply won’t be there for their children and grandchildren unless measures are taken immediately to reverse the destructive trends.

    Of course, Buchanan is being pilloried in the media for stating the obvious.

    He’s being called all the names you would expect him to be called from clueless people and by those who actively seek the end of America as we have known it.


    In fact, Buchanan writes as dispassionately as one can about the cultural suicide of a country he truly loves.”

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    A Comment Under The Above Article:

    “Ralph E Berkeypile Jr said:

    Then why Farah, do you make a fool of yourself by continuously propagandizing for Bilderberg puppet traitor Herman Cain? That demon was head of the Kansas City Federal Reserve and actively worked to buy politicians and fund the seditious policies that his foreign bankster masters use to destroy our nation. Bankster propagandists like you Farah, are part of the problem.

    Stop the news blackout on Ron Paul. Stop pushing for Traitor Cain and honestly report the news concerning the only real American candidate and GOP frontrunner, Ron Paul.”

    * * * *


    WorldNetDaily Commentary
    October 18, 2011
    © 2011


    “The New York Times’ incisive public editor, Arthur Brisbane, asks a question that has not been raised by any Republican battlers for the presidency. Congressional Democrats loyal to the incumbent are also silent:

    “There remains,” says Brisbane, “no clear accounting of the legal principles or the process the executive branch is applying to support secret killings by the CIA, which carries out strikes far from the battlefield – in this case against a native-born American. The CIA will not even acknowledge that the program exists” (New York Times, Oct. 8).

    Two U.S. citizens were killed when the Hellfire missiles struck. Alongside Anwar al-Awlaki was Samir Khan, editor of a magazine in the Arabian Peninsula that was part of the al-Qaida operation. As the Times reported, “he was apparently not on the targeting list, making his death collateral damage.”

    The term, “collateral damage,” is used when innocent civilian victims of our drones are wiped out in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Since we are forbidden to know what crimes this al-Qaida promoter was charged with, it may well be that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.”

    Read More Here:

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    Judge Napolitano
    WorldNetDaily Commentary
    © 2011
    October 20, 2011

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  42. Oldsalt,
    Never been in combat. Many of my friends have been there, and not just in the ‘combat zone’ if you know what I mean. When I have been with them ‘practicing’ they have no hesitation, no second thoughts, no wasted movements. Those purposeful acts are a result of training, but also experience, that can’t be acquired by the rest of the population. On a field with military trained individuals, especially with combat experience, the average American has little chance. Thugs, crowds, and untrained mobs fair poorly against trained, experienced, police and military.

  43. “If Obama Attempts To Use A Crisis To Suspend The 2012 Elections, The President Could Be Ousted From Office By Resurrecting The Supreme Court’s Precedent in Minor v. Happersett (1875)”

    Posted by Erica

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    “Obama’s EPA Turning Off America’s Power Supply — Literally!”

    Posted By Erica

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    “Germans Didn’t Elect The Nazis”

    Craige McMillan
    WorldNetDaily Exclusive Commentary
    © 2011
    October 19, 2011

    Read More Here:

    A Comment Under This Article:

    “Roman Ubermensch said:

    The psychological profile of AH and BO is also very similar. Both had poor or no relationship with their dad’s, a ‘unique’ relationship with their mothers, both were OCD when it came to arrogance, self-absorbed, sense of entitlement, orators without the sustaining character to authenticate the intelligence they tried to project, both meddled in military affairs to the detriment of the military, and as we have seen for three years, both, in the end, worked to destroy the very country they claimed allegiance to in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.”


    It’s a shame that computer generated Ron Paul spam is allowed here, same goes for Phony Faux news judge Napitilano disinformation videos

    Just sayin

  45. Mr. Bill (ms. helga) —
    “I could not find the quote – “he(Scalia) said that anyone BORN in the USA regardlesss of where their parents are from or if their parents are citizens IS eligible to be president”

    That’s because it doesn’t exist. The closest I could come is an article citing an e-mail of dubious origin.

  46. Pat 1789 | October 20, 2011 at 6:54 pm |
    Same as when multiple id’s are allowed, right?

  47. Rebel Mope, the e-mail to which you refer is making the rounds again. I just got one today and responded to the sender that it is bogus – a fraud and incorrect. The information therein is untrue and never happened.


    By Elizabeth Harrington,
    October 19, 2011


    “First Lady Michelle Obama said yesterday that the government can affect who kids “will be forever” if it can shape their “habits and preferences” during the large part of the day they are at school.

    Mrs. Obama was speaking on the South Lawn of the White House at a reception to honor schools that met the goals of the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s HealthierUS School Challenge (HUSSC). The USDA Web site describes HUSSC as “a voluntary initiative established in 2004 to recognize those schools participating in the National School Lunch Program that have created healthier school environments through promotion of nutrition and physical activity.” The program has since been rolled into Mrs. Obama’s “Let’s Move!” initiative.”

    Read More Here:

    Comments Under Article Include:

    “kevinbecham 1 hour ago

    The federal government has no right, no “authority”, to tell your children what to eat What you or I can eat, drink, where you can smoke, what you can smoke. How many mpg the car you buy must have. I can move from one state to another to avoid stupid twisted incompetent government laws. The federal government is another thing and that’s why the founding fathers kept them limited and left matters to the states. Why is the federal government in our schools anyway? Shut that department down, our children would be better off.”

    “Cody Cramer 1 hour ago in reply to prostate

    Unless we get Ron Paul in there, we will have as little freedom as we do now, and before long, we will have less. Will Grig “Every new president is worse than the last two combined.”

    “comprof1940 1 hour ago

    The same as Hitler’s Youth Corp. America better wake up as to what these Marxist are doing.”

    “popsob_at_google 1 hour ago

    People, you had better wake up. Get your children out of the public school system NOW. You cannot wait, they are being brainwashed RIGHT NOW. Then throw out your TVs. If you don’t do it now, you will pay a price in your old age, and it will be a high price.

    It’s time to tell the government to get out of our, and our childrens, lives. It’s time to take back our country. It’s time to take back our children. But, you better act now, there is very little time left.”

    “Hurry Up Act Now Immediately Arrest the 100% Foreign Terrorist Usurper Soebarkah/Soetoro/Bounel/Obama Said 1 Hour Ago:

    Radical Islamist Muslims, Communists, Fascists, & Nazis give “Obama” great credit & cheers today for helping the Muslim Brotherhood to take over parts of the Middle East. “Obama” wants & is currently working with & planning with other foreign & domestic enemies of the USA to give the Muslim Brotherhood the power to take over the USA & the entire world with the aid & assitance of “Obama’s” civilian army….. How incredibly naive & stupid American citizens are when they do not see the terrible truth & the terrible facts of exactly who “Obama” is.

    “Obama” is a completely extremely dangerous, 100% criminally insane, most prolifically terribly deceptive & daily lying 100% Demonically Possessed, Maniac Daily Serial Career Criminal, 100% Serial Mass Murderer Sociopath, 100% Daily Serial Lying Psychopath Foreign-Born Domestic Terrorist Usurper, 100% Foreign Undocumented Illegal Alien Destroyer that is criminally & illegally usurping & overthrowing the USA as a Foreign Terrorist who is sitting in our White House while he is using a stolen & invalid social security number. “Obama”
    is actually 100% incredibly far worse than all of the Tyrant Dictators Mass Murderers that has ever lived….. as “Obama” is destined to ignite the entire world in many nuclear wars that will kill billions of people. Then Christ will return and throw “Obama” the Revelations “false prophet” into hell forever fire. You will see “Obama” standing next the to AntiChrist in Jerusalem in about 3 years.”

  49. “Less Government, More Prosperity”
    October 17, 2011

    Judge Napolitano:

    “The Judge explains why Washington’s approach to economic stimulus will never work and how we can actually restore prosperity in America.”

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    “Your Freedoms, All of Them”
    October 14, 2011

    Judge Napolitano:

    “The Judge explains the freedoms you know about and the freedoms you may not know about, and why you exercise and enjoy those freedoms anyway.”

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    “The U.S.’s Military Role in Uganda”
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    Judge Napolitano:

    “The Judge explains how 100 U.S. troops found themselves in Uganda and what it means for the U.S. and Africa.”

  50. MUST SEE!!

    “100 Years of Statism”
    October 17, 2011

    Judge Napolitano:

    “Senator Ron Johnson, (R-Wis.), talks about why government spending is out of control and how we got into this situation.”

  51. Cabby – AZ —

    Frankly, if someone sends to me an e-mail such as this one, or some other forwarded tripe, it ends up on the spam list. I cannot go around sending people unsubstantiated information and anyone that would send it to me should never be believed. All their correspondence ends there. Thus, I may pass up some good information but coming from someone that will believe anything, I’ll take that chance. These e-mail rarely cite a bill or a news article. I guess that why the circular file was invented.

  52. Sorry, if this has already been posted.

    Republican Reps. Jason Chaffetz of Utah and Trey Gowdy of South Carolina fired off a letter to Barack Obama last Friday demanding to know what the president knew about Operation Fast and Furious and when he knew it.

    Chaffetz and Gowdy outlined inconsistencies between Obama’s public comments about the controversial gun-walking program and Attorney General Eric Holder’s May 3 testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. At the Judiciary hearing, Holder said he had only learned of Operation Fast and Furious a few weeks earlier.

    But on March 22 Obama talked about the program with Spanish-language television network Univision, saying that he “did not authorize it” and that “Eric Holder, the Attorney General, did not authorize it.” Obama added then that Holder had been “very clear that our policy is to catch gunrunners and put them into jail. So what he’s done is he’s assigned an I.G., an inspector general, to investigate what exactly happened.”

    Read more:

  53. Judge Nap feels strongly about the parts of the Constituion that Faux News let’s him. Leftist puppet.

    BILL HEMMER: But if the [Birthright Citizenship Act] were carried out, you had 100 co-sponsors about a year ago, it would require at least one parent to be a US citizen for a baby to become an American citizen at birth. If you were to enact the BCA as some refer to it, is that a way to get around the 14th Amendment, and get done what people like John Cornyn, and John Kyl and John Mccain, and we heard from John Boehner, are trying to do.

    ANDREW NAPOLITANO: No! That would not be a a way around it. There is no way to get around the 14th Amendment. These people took an oath to uphold the Constitution whether they agree with it or not! All of it not and part of it!

  54. Hermain Cain needs to hire some better advisors. He is getting foot in mouth disease. He is against abortion, but pro choice he said on CNN with piers Morgan; then backtracked. He could see himself negotiating with terrorists before Tuesday’s debates then backtracked after them. I like him, but he is making me very nervous if he is the frontrunner.

  55. “Rep. Paul Ryan Protects Obama, Ignores the Constitution”
    by Lawrence Sellin, ©2011

    “Ryan knows that Obama has forged his birth documents and Selective Service registration and uses a Social Security number not issued to him.

    When presented with evidence of Obama’s ineligibility and felonies, Ryan completely ignores the issue and dismisses the concern of citizens by recommending that we simply “vote him out of office.”

    By protecting him, Ryan and other Republican leaders have proven themselves no better than Obama.”
    “Paul Davis Ryan[1] (born January 29, 1970) is the U.S. Representative for Wisconsin’s 1st congressional district, serving since 1999. He is a member of the Republican Party and has been ranked among the party’s most influential voices on conservative economic policy.”

  56. The 9-9-9 plan. Has anyone studied it or read it? I like the idea of a flat tax. It sounds great, but first Cain wants to reduce Corp taxes. Great idea there. It will bring jobs back. Then he wants to put a 9% federal sales tax on top of the state sales tax. This will discourage the purchase of new goods. Why does he want to do that when we need consumers to buy goods for a healthy economy? If people don’t buy new goods, the economy tanks.

  57. feeling somewhat sad tonight, I bought a couple of Pagan Babies in my life, and always wondered if Qaddifi was one them. I had Larry, Curley, Moemar and Soebarky.,7340,L-3877174,00.html

  58. Tina | October 20, 2011 at 11:13 pm |
    Hermain Cain needs to hire some better advisors. He is getting foot in mouth disease. He is against abortion, but pro choice he said on CNN with piers Morgan; then backtracked…
    Tina, I also heard the Piers Morgan interview with Herman Cain and listened very carefully to his response on the abortion issue. I am very pro-life and so was especially interested. The way I see it, Morgan was setting a trap for Cain, as so many MSM folks do. Accordingly, I was satisfied with Cain’s answers.

    However, today I got an e-mail from the Cain campaign and this will shed some light on the issue:

    (Cain’s response)
    If you listen to the line of questioning, it is clear that Mr. Morgan was asking if I, as president, would simply “order” people to not seek an abortion.

    My answer was focused on the role of the President. The President has no constitutional authority to order any such action by anyone. That was the point I was trying to convey.

    As to my political view on abortion…again, I am pro-life. End of story.

  59. I also should have included some more of Herman Cain’s e-mail:

    As President, I will appoint judges who understand the original intent of the Constitution. Judges who are committed to the rule of law know that the Constitution contains no right to take the life of unborn children.

    I will oppose government funding of abortion. I will veto any legislation that contains funds for Planned Parenthood. I will do everything that a President can do, consistent with his constitutional role, to advance the culture of life.

  60. “Washington Post’s Lynne Sladky Probes Marco Rubio’s Parents Social Security Numbers But Ignores Obama’s Connecticut Based Social Security Number”

    “The mainstream media is having a heyday going after Senator Marco Rubio’s misstatements about the circumstances his parents arrived in the United States. They have gone so far as to dig up Rubio’s parents Social Security numbers to bolster their position that Rubio embellished his family story for political gain.

    Every outlet from the Washington Post to Fox News is reporting it.

    What started all this was Commander Charles Kerchner’s (Ret) initial report and followup report on Marco Rubio’s father’s naturalization petition obtained from the National Archives and then picked up by the St. Petersburg Times and the Miami Herald.”

  61. St. Petersburg Times
    Ron Polland (Polarik):

    “The original COLB image that was posted by the Obama Campaign on the evening of June 12, 2008 was not produced by the Obama Campaign.

    How many different copies of the one-sided COLB image have been made and found on the Internet?

    The St. Petersburg Times/Politifact has 20 different copies alone. They are a veritable COLB factory – and the ones who forged the original source image and who distributed the copies to everyone – not the Obama Campaign.”

  62. Pete……………
    Before my enlistment in the US Navy in late 1951,I waas a member of the Indiana National Guard. We trained primarily as INFANTRYMEN. While our unit which was the 293rd Infantry Regiment, of the Thirty Eighth Division, of A3, we did NOT see any activation nor was any activation expected. Our DI was a Master Seargent who had fought in Europe,and had literally walked across the continent with a M1 Garand in his hand. He and his Company was at Bastogne,and made it through it all. A fighting man becomes a fine wine as he progresses in combat. The enemy does the instruction. You alude to the fighting edge which our soldiers in WW 2 acquired……..well the longer each lived the more experienced he became. Simple as that. The closest I ever came to rifle or Infantry engagement of an enemy was in swimming to the wing of a downed and sinking AD1 Skyraider, to assist with the retreival of it’s pilot.

  63. ……….Pete……….while I was but one member of the pilot recovery team, I had spent a 50 day intensive training period administered by the entity which was then called the UDT ( underwater demolition team.) Today the UDT is a completely different organisation, and is known as the SEALS. Yet their mission STILL includes PILOT RETRIEVAL but includes LAND OR SEA. The only reason why those of us were accepted as trainees was the fact that we all were strong swimmers. We were considered EXPENDABLE. But we DID get a number of pilots out of the sinking birds. Most were already out of the aircraft, and were floating around in their MAE WESTS. We were there during the winter. The seawater temperature during that point in time averaged between 34 degrees Fahrenheit and 38 degrees. Even in their flight suits they FELT THE COLD,

  64. Thank you for your service, Old Salt.

  65. ……….we were a little more fortunate. A company i the US had developed a body hugging foam material from which thermal diving suits were made. It had not had a whole lot of testing,and we all wore the early version of this material. It worked a little bit,but I can remember my teeth clattering together. We only done the pilot recovery from a destroyer for a short period of time. The ESCORT CARRIERS (CVE) were converted into helicopter carriers,and pilot rescue groups were reassigned to the CVEs. Some of us who had voluntered for the job were returned to our respective rates. In my case I was a Machinist’s Mate (engine room gang). The Korean War was NOT like the WW2 Pacific war. Yes there was four of our CVA carriers back in commission as well as several of the Iowa class battleships. Later all 4 of the wagons were back in commission.

  66. Paxson…………………..
    What I tried to do was simply be a help in doing a stopgap job until the Navy could get a helicopter carrier in operation off the coast so that these pilots could be more easily removed from the water,and at the same time a lot quicker. I don’t expect any thanks for doing a job which was necessary. The Korean war was the beginning of our politically micromanaged wars. During that time I witnessed some really stupid acts by our alleged leaders. Harry Truman(PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT) saw fit to FIRE the only COMPETENT field commander he had…… General Dougles Macarthur. Truman allegedly feared China,and thought that Macarthur would provoke a war with China. At that time China couldn’t knock their way out of a wet paper bag, and if they did start something Macarthur would have been the only field commander having enough guts,and experience to bring any action they might take to a quick halt.

  67. Paxson……………
    What I am implying is that in my opinion Truman was a absolute coward. The Soviets were smart,they stayed out of the fight at least militarily. Yet a number of Soviet pilots met their waterloo flying North Korean Mig 15s, and 17s. Their remains and the remains of their airplanes ended up at the bottom of 6 foot deep craters in the earth, and they were sent there mostly by our USAF pilots. But it wasn’t until our pilots began to get the F-86 birds that the attrition really started to show against the North Koreans.

  68. …………..At best the Korean war was a stalemate, they ended up BACK WHERE THEY STARTED. Dumb sort of war. No ground gained and held, and a hell of a lot of DEAD soldiers on both sides. What did we gain?and what did the North Korean Communists gain………..VERY DAMN LITTLE.

  69. The only thing that was anywhere near an accomplishment during the Korean war was the eviction of the North Koreans from South Korea. If we were to fight a purely defensive action why the hell did the War Department put so many capital ships back in service? They were even putting really obsolete destroyers back in service. These were the old 1650 cans. Totally useless except for minelaying. Hollywood used one of the old 1650 class destroyers to film some of the “Caine Mutiny” aboard.

  70. >>Oldsalt
    The seawater temperature during that point in time averaged between 34 degrees Fahrenheit and 38 degrees. Even in their flight suits they FELT THE COLD,<

    I have been in 34 degree water, with wet suit, with dry suit, and without anything but clothes. Outside of the dry suit, it was an uncomfortable experience, and in clothes it provokes a life long memory (after about 3 minutes). If you have done it, you can't forget it.


  71. Oldsalt,
    Finally, it is sad that we have a government whom has become deaf to those who have served and seen history. Only a fool would overlook those skills and insights learned at such a cost. Once again, thanks for being there.


  72. Good Morning Pete, et. al. – I will always join in with praise for OldSalt! He’s a valued voice that I consider when I see one of his posts.

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