Hawaii Attorney General Mark Bennett, Leo C Donofrio, Update, October 19, 2009, Stonewaled In Hawaii, Where’s World Net Daily On This Issue?, Stonewalled, Attorney client privilege, Public statement

***  Update below ***

From Leo C Donofrio, October 19, 2009:

“Last week I published a report which established that Hawaii Attorney General Mark Bennett was invoking “attorney client privilege” as to the opinion issued to Department of Health Director Fukino wherein the AG reviewed and approved the July 27, 2009 press release which stated to the world that President Obama was born in Hawaii and is a “natural-born American citzen”.
 
Is there no story here?  Attorney client privilege was applied to a public statement?  How is that possible?  The statement was issued in a press release.  No privilege applies.
 
In part 3 of my UIPA report, I detailed the legal statutes and case law in Hawaii that demand the Attorney General opinion be made public.
Parts 1 and 2 of that same report explained how the Hawaii Uniform Information Practices Act (UIPA) gives “any person” standing to challenge in court the failure of a Hawaii state agency to release records which the public are entitled to.
 
Furthermore, I also detailed – here and here – how DoH Communications Director Janice Okubo has been running interference by failing to answer proper UIPA requests as is required by OIP administrative rules.
 
I am preparing a follow up on all of this which illustrates Okubo’s continued failure to answer UIPA requests under OIP administrative rules which has the effect of stopping all research.  Additonally, my appeals to the OIP have gone unanswered.
 
WHERE IS WND?
They are allegedly in possession of a petition with half a million names on it in support of political leaders investigating Obama’s POTUS eligibility.  My question to WND is – why don’t you investigate his eligibility by using the very simple devices listed in the UIPA?
 
All WND must do is write up a copy of the same questions we have asked… email it to Janice Okubo and then follow up with an OIP appeal and a judicial branch appeal (to be expedited to the front of the litigation calendar by statute).
 
I have always found the WND reporting on eligibility to be very convenient to the Obama administration.  They have chosen to focus on the sensational conspiracy theory aspects of the issue rather than the genuine legal problem he faces in that he was a British citizen at birth.  But if WND want to genuinely establish themselves as true  investigative reporters on the issue of Obama’s eligibility, all they have to do is make an effort to use the public disclosure laws available to “any person”.
 
I would be happy to write model UIPA requests, model appeals to the OIP and model judicial complaints to be filed in Hawaii Circuit courts for World Net Daily to act upon and to gather information.  Not only is Obama’s COLB available for discovery right now via these laws, but so is the Attorney General opinion which guided Fukino’s infamous July 27th press release as well as the original vital records she viewed which allowed her to state that Obama was born in Hawaii.
There’s no reason to be groping around in the dark looking for these documents in federal court rooms by people who have no chance of garnering standing.  Standing is granted to “any person” in Hawaii.  WND and all the other attorneys involved in POTUS eligibility should be using the UIPA laws in Hawaii, along with the OIP administrative rules and judicial precedent to get the information necessary for the country to have closure on Obama’s place of birth.
 
If Okubo tries to stonewall WND the way she stonewalls the rest of the public, then she can see her face and her replies spread over the front pages of WND.  And WND certainly has the resources to take this fight to the judicial branch in Hawaii.
 
Hawaii officials appear unwilling to work with me under their laws.  I will be filing law suits.  But I don’t see why WND and other interested attorneys continue to ignore the UIPA, OIP and judicial branch in Hawaii where standing is not an obstacle.  If your fight is to see the Obama birth records, then these laws make that possible.
 
I see a pattern emerging where the UIPA is ignored and the federal Quo Warranto statute is not followed properly.  It feels like a big attempt to keep public eyes away from true legal solutions while impossible exotic suits are brought in federal courts which have no subject matter jurisdiction for plaintiffs with undeniable standing issues.”

Read more:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/stonewaled-in-hawaii-wheres-world-net-daily-on-this-issue/

*** Leo C Donofrio update at October 19, 2009, 2:45 PM **

Point Made…

I’ve deleted my prior post so that the journal mentioned might reverse course now that I’ve made my point: that information is available from Hawaii for those who will call Hawaii to follow their own public disclosure laws.

No news journal can talk about this issue and deserve any respect if they aren’t willing to use the law available to them for research.  Research is to the media just as a hammer is to a carpenter – a necessary tool.  We shall now see if they are interested in doing their job or if they will continue to dodge that chore.”

176 responses to “Hawaii Attorney General Mark Bennett, Leo C Donofrio, Update, October 19, 2009, Stonewaled In Hawaii, Where’s World Net Daily On This Issue?, Stonewalled, Attorney client privilege, Public statement

  1. Of course all of the above will be unnecessary if one federal judge in one federal court, that being Judge David Carter, USDC, CA, finds standing for plaintiff Alan Keyes in his tort claim in fraud against Candidate (not ‘President’) Obama. (Does not need to be quo warranto for removal of ‘President’ Obama; recovery of Dr. Keyes of even nominal damages on the proof by the preponderance of evidence of civil fraud by Obama — which should be “slam dunk” under res ipsa loquitur of Team Obama resisting all discovery — as to his eligibility would place overwhelming political pressure on the Democrats and Congress to remove him from office — thus avoiding consitutional crisis.)

    …which is why the finding of standing alone will immediately end Obama’s administration; the case need never get to the merits.

  2. Feel free to send me to Hawaii. 🙂

  3. Was WND ever really concerned with the truth, or was it just profits? I am saddened by the comment attributed to Farah that Leo is an “illiterate attorney”.

    Between Orly’s missteps and WND’s silence, I fear we may never learn the truth.

  4. zachjonesishome

    I hope everyone heard Glenn Beck this morning read the Globe article about him on air. He also read the entire paragraph about Larry Sinclair!

    zachjonesishome.wordpress.com

  5. Linda from NY

    This whole process seems to be a game of hide and seek and/or cat and mouse! IMHO, it is all a waste of time and energy!

    Could this initiative be considered “entrapment?” Does Leo really think he is going to get them to “back down” and give him access? Guess so.

    It seems to me they are going to stall and mince words for as long as they can until someone files suit and makes them comply.

    What’s the point of this he said she said fiasco?

    WND is not interested in solving any problems; they are just interested in creating news and getting people to read it IMHO. So why bother asking them to “step up to the plate?”

    While I believe we should pursue every avenue possible to oust the impostor, I am having a hard time getting excited about this initiative.

  6. Said , Jack // October 19, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    They are not in the right court room. Carter will not hear it. Needs to be in the DC Court.

    NBow I just bet you these people also know that so why do they have their case in the wrong court?

  7. Said, zachjonesishome // October 19, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Larry is selling a book. We are trying to find the truth about why no one in the MSM can figure out how to see if Obama was born in HI so we can get the focus on the fact that Obama II states he was a British Subject at birth.

    That is the legal case with legs if brought in the DC Court with people that have standing to do so.

    Sorry about spelling and such…I have a spinal cord injury and my hands and stuff don’t work very well.

    http://www.dixhistory.com/

  8. It’s time for O to consider end of life care…..

  9. Linda from NY

    carmen: You are funny! If so, he had better watch what they put in that Health Care Bill!

    Happy Day…Linda

  10. My question is and always has been why we haven’t been able to penetrate either records departments undercover in Hawaii, at Occidental and Columbia?

  11. sandy, I was told that there was a State Police detail at the DoH in HI and at both hospitals. Don’t know about Occi but I am sure any records are under lock and key. But I hear ya, you would think something would have leaked. IMHO if the information was favorable for Zero it would have leaked by now..

  12. Zach, et al.
    Is there an audio or transcript of Glenn Beck reading about Sinclair in the Globe?

  13. Patriot Dreamer

    Has this been posted before?

    Governor Schwarzenegger of California signs executive order re: H1N1 pandemic

    http://gov.ca.gov/executive-order/13484/

  14. zachjonesishome

    Hey Mr. Wells. I don’t know if there is an audio/transcript yet. Zach

  15. This is a long shot to say the least, but could charges be brought against O in a British court since he was born a British citizen?

  16. Texo said:

    They are not in the right court room. Carter will not hear it. Needs to be in the DC Court.

    NBow I just bet you these people also know that so why do they have their case in the wrong court?

    They are in the right court, and the court must hear it.

    The only time it should go to the federal court in DC is when one is a third party without direct standing filing quo warranto on behalf of the United States.

    Examples of a third party based on at least 1 SCROTUS decision:

    1. Common citizen (john q public)
    2. State government or state/local District Attorney
    3. Any attorney practicing in the United States

    Note here Keyes and other said plaintiffs do not fit either of these categories. Therefore, quo warranto must be filed in one of the federal circuits first.

  17. Old Salt –

    Did I read correctly that you are going to go play with microfilm again? If so, could you look up the Birth Announcements in the August 13, 1961 Honolulu Advertiser and Star Bulletin?

  18. Texo:–

    Keyes case is NOT in the wrong court since his case is in tort for fraud against Candidate (not ‘President’) Obama, and is not premised on quo warranto — and insofar as tort claim in fed ct, there is pendant jurisdiction.

    Orly and Judge Carter must know this; and Team Obama must know this as well (hence the rush to weaken USA as quickly as possible before things come tumbling down on their heads).

  19. Margie // October 19, 2009 at 1:19 pm
    Feel free to send me to Hawaii. 🙂

    =============================

    I’ll go too, and willing to pay my own way. But we’ll need a body guard, don’t ya think?

    I’m still waiting for a reply to a UIPA request I made in July to the Hawaii DOH. I send reminders weekly but still no response. What does a citizen have to do to get a department of a state government to comply to a request of copies of government records (NOT a birth certificate)?

  20. Linda from NY

    OT, but of note…

    Reading the Electoral Tea Leaves

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/reading_the_electoral_tea_leav_1.html

  21. The only decent reporter, IMHO, over at WND is Aaron Klein. He’s good. Very good. All of the others not so much.

    Leo is doing what Leo does best. He rushes into a situation, convinces his readers that this is the way to go, gets his readers rallyed and when things don’t go the way he thinks they should, he blames others for not getting it or not doing anything about it.

    Many have been attempting to get CW readers to understand that the quickest and most efficient way to remove 0 is getting one, just one State Attorney General to investigate election fraud. It costs no money. It takes a bit of your time to research your state laws and postage stamps. That’s it.

    I rode the NBC, HI, SCOTUS roller coaster ride for over a year. My hopes would well up only to be let down again and again. Finally, said enough, but I knew I needed to do something. That’s when I sought out jbjd and her election fraud work. I studied her logic/reasoning long before I contacted her. And even after I contacted her, it took me another month to do a FOIA of Virginia’s Certification of Nominations for the R and D party. Once I took that step, I felt empowered. I felt like I was doing something rather than waiting on someone else to do it for me.

    When I testified before Virginia’s state board of elections a couple of weeks ago, I can’t begin to describe to you the weight that lifted off of my shoulders. It was freeing. Do you know why? Simple. None of this insanity belongs to me the voter. All of it belongs to elected leaders in both parties, both R and D leadership and my state’s Secretary of the Board of Elections and AG.

    By taking this action, which was so simple and lacked all drama, I felt free of it for the first time in 20+ months. Sure there is more to do, and I’m working on that now, but my point is this.

    All of us have been empowered to take matters into our own hands. Sure some of the states lack eligibility language but a majority of them do have such language and all it takes is a few minutes reading your state’s election code.

    We know election fraud was committed. No question. The Memorandum of Complaints jbjd has constructed to date clearly outline the fraud and provides strong circumstantial evidence that when investigated by an AG will be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Sure follow the cases and other interesting story lines like UIPA, but do yourself a favor and think about getting off of the ride, and instead empower yourselves to take action.

  22. Linda from NY

    d2i: Thanks for all you did for the cause. I am sure jbjd is proud of your effort. I agree we need to “empower ourselves to take action.” If we do not, then pp will succeed in what he has planned all along as illustrated in the article below.

    The Obama Way: Eliminate Competition of Ideas

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/the_obama_way_eliminate_compet.html

  23. Linda from NY

    OT…but interesting nonetheless

    Imagined ethnicity and Obama

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/imagined_ethnicity_and_obama.html

  24. bringing over to this new thread

    Hi all: OldSalt77, JS, & Jonah,

    One odd thing I saw in the affidavit of Ms. Daniels is that whereas she states that BHO only used 1 (one) SSN

    (which appears to be the
    042-68-4425, issued 8/04/1961 and 4/08/1961 in the state of Connecticut 1977-79, under the names Obama, Barack & Obama, B. Hussein. This SSN is not found in the SS Death Index).

    However, in 1975-76 in IL for Obama, Barack H.
    a SSN was issued with issuant residing at 5450 S. East View Park 1, Chicago. On the affidavit
    the entire SSN is blacked out.

    Ques: Why is Ms. Daniels of the opinion that
    Barack Obama/Barack H. Obama/Barack Hussein Obama only used 1 (one) SSN?

    OldSalt77–I am going to call the office of Ms. Daniels PI this afternoon. FYI her office is in Kirtland, OH (northern OH–around Cleveland area) I am wondering if she will “share” her
    info with me? Any suggestions on how to
    ask the questions?

  25. Linda from NY

    maddie: I know you did not ask me but if I may, can I offer some suggestions in how to approach this situation?

    Explain who you are, that you think her work is impressive and important, and that you want to help explain to others what she is doing.

    Ask her some questions about her work and then, present your ideas in a non-threatening way as suggestions.

    Explain what you would like to do and ask her what she thinks about your ideas. This will give her the opportunity to help you.

    May God be with you in your quest for the truth!

    Linda

  26. Linda from NY

    Nice, uplifting story…

    Kenny and the American Way

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/kenny_and_the_american_way.html

  27. Jonah sounds good to me. According to the other blog.. they had 10 days to get back to you. Surely if it was sent in July… the response is well over due. Not sure about the body guards.. no one will be wise to us being there to investigate.

  28. “During the Constitutional Convention, from May to September 1787, delegates from the colonies were to gather together for the express purpose of amending the Articles of Confederation to form a “more perfect union” (NOT a completely different union!).

    Yet, during that private and secret convention, there were men who proposed that a national system be established in place of their current federal system, destroying State sovereignty in direct contradiction to their orders.
    Despite these proposals, in the end, it was a federalist system that prevailed–a union of states and not a union of people, whereby the states retained complete and absolute sovereignty over all matters not delegated to the federal government. The states were indeed co-equal with the federal government. ”

    The national system that was rejected was:
    ” that… the national government possesses superior sovereignty to force the states to submit to the laws made by the national government and to negate any State law it deems repugnant to the articles of union.

    History proves with absolute certainty that a national government and its assuming principles were rejected, not only by the framers of the US Constitution, but also by those who sent delegates to the Federal Convention and who ratified the US Constitution at their State conventions. More important than the limited powers of the federal government, the people of the states rejected the nationalist doctrine that the federal government had the power to negate State laws that it deemed contrary to the Constitution. (John Taylor, New Views of the Constitution of the United States, [Washington DC, 1823], 15)

    So, how is it that while the people of the states expressly forbade the federal government from interfering with the internal affairs of the states the federal government can now control nearly every facet of life within the states and the states supposedly can do absolutely nothing about it?”

    This article cites “The ludicrous proposition of a “living Constitution” and ” a political idea contrary to our original federal system was adopted–not through open discussion and consent, but by fraud and force. This position states that whatever the federal judiciary rules equates to the “supreme law of the land” and the states must comply therewith, regardless of whether the federal law usurps the power the states retained under the Constitution.”

    Read article by Timothy Baldwin in it’s entirety:
    http://www.infowars.com/freedoms-destruction-by-constitutional-de-construction/

  29. IMO, the Occidental records are nearly as important as the BC. If we can get those records unsealed, I am sure they will show BO as a foreign student, being a citizen of Indonesia. They will also show his place of birth.

  30. maddie // October 19, 2009 at 3:10 pm
    bringing over to this new thread
    Hi all: OldSalt77, JS, & Jonah,
    One odd thing I saw in the affidavit of Ms. Daniels is that whereas she states that BHO only used 1 (one) SSN
    Ques: Why is Ms. Daniels of the opinion that
    Barack Obama/Barack H. Obama/Barack Hussein Obama only used 1 (one) SSN?
    ==============================
    maddie,
    I was wondering the same thing. Please let us know Ms. Daniels answer to that question.
    Jonah

  31. Patriot Dreamer

    “Congress despairs when slaves can read”
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113304

  32. LindaNY—Thanks for the pointers.

    Sounds like you have the “finesse” that may be better than mine. I’m the “blunt, in your face”
    type (just kidding, but more in that mode than
    the “sweetie” type, if you know what I mean).

    If you want to join in, I have the contact number, too. Let me know.

  33. Linda from NY

    Patriot Dreamer: In the article you linked above, it claims that the Cap n Trade Bill was passed. Do you know if this is true?

  34. SapphireSunday

    If anyone is going to the state library in Hawaii, please look for the birth announcement for the Nordyke twins. They ought to have been announced on 8/13 and 14, 1961 OR on 8/20 and 21, 1961.

  35. Linda from NY

    maddie: Wish I could but alas, going to Ohio would be a stretch for me right now.

    It is been my experience one must be gracious if you want to get assistance. It also does not hurt to point out you are appreciative of their efforts, either. If you concentrate on them first, then they will be more than willing to hear what you have to say because you have acknowledged the importance of their work at the start of the conversation.

    JMO…

    Best Wishes…Linda

  36. And to those like Leo Donofrio (whom I greatly admire for more than “slam dunk” establishing that “natural born citizen” requires both citizen parents) I would respecfully dissent from Leo’s opinion that Judge Carter (at pp 43-44 of Oct 5 transcripts) tips his hand against Orly. To the contrary, Judge Carter is saying geography is not important where parents are citizens, hence, McCain (per Judge Carter at least) IS POTUS eligible, as distinguished from Obama where “natural born citizen” definition (two citizen parents; no dual loyalty) TRUMPS geography.

    It seems the handwriting could be (we hope) on the wall as Judge Carter has found a way to (1) keep jurisdiction without quo warranto simply on a tortious fraud case be Keyes for damages, (2) avoid the constitutional crisis of ousting Obama (Congress will do that after Obama is found to have civilly defrauded Keyes, maybe with or withour RICO or conspiracy), and (3) with no need to address the McCain-Panama issue.

    Stay tuned!

  37. Patriot Dreamer

    Linda from NY // October 19, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Patriot Dreamer: In the article you linked above, it claims that the Cap n Trade Bill was passed. Do you know if this is true?
    *******************************************
    Hi Linda,

    It was passed in the House, but is currently stuck in the Senate.

  38. typo (that’s “by Keyes for damages”)

    And to those like Leo Donofrio (whom I greatly admire for more than “slam dunk” establishing that “natural born citizen” requires both citizen parents) I would respecfully dissent from Leo’s opinion that Judge Carter (at pp 43-44 of Oct 5 transcripts) tips his hand against Orly. To the contrary, Judge Carter is saying geography is not important where parents are citizens, hence, McCain (per Judge Carter at least) IS POTUS eligible, as distinguished from Obama where “natural born citizen” definition (two citizen parents; no dual loyalty) TRUMPS geography.

    It seems the handwriting could be (we hope) on the wall as Judge Carter has found a way to (1) keep jurisdiction without quo warranto simply on a tortious fraud case by Keyes for damages, (2) avoid the constitutional crisis of ousting Obama (Congress will do that after Obama is found to have civilly defrauded Keyes, maybe with or withour RICO or conspiracy), and (3) with no need to address the McCain-Panama issue.

    Stay tuned!

  39. Maddie,

    A day or so ago, you said that Obama declared he “would not quit” while giving a speech in San Francisco. Do you have a link for that?

  40. Glenn Beck Interviews Lord Monckton On Climate Treaty Part 1

    Youtube.com

  41. OldSalt77, JS, Jonah et. al.

    I just had a very nice conversation with
    Ms. Daniels re our discussion last night.
    I was warmly received, and she answered
    questions about the affivadit that she was at liberty to answer.

    Here is what I learned:
    1. She does not have a name for the 1890
    SSN. 2. I asked for confirmation of the
    SSN 042-68-4425 — she is not at liberty
    to discuss that. 3. There does not appear to
    be anyway bho was in Connecticut to get
    the SSN during the years 1977-79. 4. I asked about Thomas Wood–not at liberty to say,
    5. SSN may be bogus, 6. may be more than
    1 (one) SSN. 7. If SS payments were made
    in 1995 & henceworth with the # assigned originally to the 1890 d.o.b. person—she
    has no way of knowing that.

    OldSalt77—hope this helps in fitting the
    puzzle together.

    Again, I thanked Ms. Daniels for her hard work and told her there were people “out there” who are glad she is helping to fight the “good fight.”
    She is a very helpful and thorough investigator
    who is very supportive of Dr. Orly Taitz.
    We had a nice, long chat:)

  42. Here is another piece stating a Kenya birthplace. http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

    And then there was the Honolulu Advertiser that listed him as Kenyan born then retracted it. http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html

    When making a list of the evidence on both sides of the issue of birthplace it seems the Kenyan side is a little larger than the Hawaiian side

  43. Linda from NY

    No, really?

    Poll: Only 34 percent of Californians approve of Pelosi’s performance

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2365958/posts

  44. Venice—venice // October 19, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Maddie,

    A day or so ago, you said that Obama declared he “would not quit” while giving a speech in San Francisco. Do you have a link for that
    +++++++++

    I watched part of his speech in SF on TV.
    He said it. Maybe it’s archived at CNN—that’s a guess because I’m watching them all to see what he’s up to. But, I can assure you he said he
    wasn’t going to “quit.”—which to me sounded
    like the thought/idea has been in his mind!
    And, of course, “double-speak” a la politics.

  45. Lord Christopher Monchton with Glenn Beck.
    Part 1.

  46. Part 2.

  47. What are we going to Ohio for? Ohio is my neighbor State.

  48. The End of Federalism: How Obamacare Will Impact States

    Transferring State Power to Federal Regulators: The bills before Congress would place an unprecedented amount of power in the hands of the federal government, especially the Secretary of Health and Human Services, to determine health insurance rules and benefits. These powers have traditionally been held by state officials.
    Minions to a Federal Bureaucrat: In place of its traditional role of regulating health insurance markets, the states would become merely an administrative arm of the federal government. State action on health care would be based on dictates and memoranda passed down from Washington.
    http://www.heritage.org/Press/FactSheet/fs0042.cfm

    This is getting scary! We’ve got to stop this trainwreck!

  49. Linda from NY

    Kim: I wonder if that is why many states [cannot recall how many have done this] have enacted their “sovereignty rights.” Could they have seen this coming? Wonder if they will be protected?

    What do you think?

  50. It’s time for O to consider end of life care…..

    Carmen, that’s the best thing that I’ve heard all day!

  51. Linda from NY

    Yikes!

    October 19, 1987 — October 19, 2009: Deja Vu All Over Again?

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/10/19/october-19-1987-october-19-2009-deja-vu-all-over-again/

  52. Is it just me? I’m extremely confused about Leo’s latest post. He’s closed his blog again. What is this the fourth time? Honestly, I don’t understand what the hell is going on.

    Linda Starr, if you’re still around I’d love to learn your thoughts.

  53. Linda NY – thank you for kind comments. They are taken to heart and most appreciated.

  54. Linda from NY

    Food for Thought…

    The Hypocrisy of Beltway Politics

    http://www.americasright.com/2009/10/hypocrisy-of-deliberative-democracy.html

  55. CW—
    I am still in awe that I had the privilege to speak with the P.I. who is providing such valuable work for Orly. I did tell Ms. Daniels that I was a blogger on the Citizen Wells Blog, and gave this site address.
    She had heard of us and was very happy that we were pleased with her efforts. After I asked all of my “affidavit” questions, we talked about the teaparties and other items. It was very enlightening to realize that “we are not alone” in pursuit of the truth. Thank you, Maddie.

  56. add this to 4:42 post above…

    OldSalt77, JS, & Jonah—

    Regarding my question about why IL on that
    “other” SSN that is totally “blacked out” her
    reply was perhaps it had to do with MO.
    +++++++++
    Also, besides the one SSN belonging to a female (again, no name given), she is not the “only” one.
    This is all I can say.

  57. Thanks maddie.

  58. Linda from NY

    maddie: Yay! Good Job! You did it! We are proud of you! Two Thumbs up from me!

  59. Go maddie! I’m proud of you. Always go to the source. Always. Next you’ll be calling…??? You’re an inspiration to us all.

  60. The South,

    Did you hear Lindsey Williams’ interview today on Alex Jones?

  61. Maddie, I hope you are keeping the real P.I.’s name secret for her protection and yours!

  62. maddie,

    Well he might “not quit”, but when the time comes, it’ll be more colorful than that.

  63. d21,
    It looks like Leo D wants an entity with resources and the ability to publicize the obsfucation (WND) to take on Hawaii.

  64. What the heck is going on with Leo D.? He’s signing off his blog and now believes Obama was born in Hawaii. What the heck??!!

  65. Something strange is going on or maybe people are being threathened big time. Andy Martin was going crazy trying to get to the bottom of the BC issue. Then he stopped everything. Not a peep from his blog and he now says Obama was born in Hawaii. Same with Leo. What’s going on?

  66. d2i,

    Congratulations on getting this far. Are you in a position to let us know where the proceedings are at this point? Are you still the only person in the U.S. to have filed?

  67. JaSO24,

    The same as everyone else. Either bought off and/or threatened.

  68. Somebody help me out here on the SSN’s . I missed the documentation that Soetoro himself was using these numbers.

  69. Linda from NY

    We Won’t Back Down

    We can no longer stand;
    The often heavy hand;
    Of government’s demand;
    But we won’t back down!

    We protest night and day;
    We’re taxed without our say;
    Though they keep us all at bay;
    We won’t back down!

    At Tea Parties and Town Halls;
    We confronted the goofballs;
    We elected with fireballs;
    Cause we won’t back down!

    We wrote letters and e-mails;
    We gave them all the details;
    They replied with silly entails;
    But we won’t back down!

    They think they can control us;
    And they try to console us;
    With their lies they flagpole us;
    But we won’t back down!

    We will hold you all accountable;
    For every word, deed, and grumble;
    For every step, misstep, and stumble;
    And we won’t back down!

    We keep tabs and tabulations;
    We give free our adulations;
    If you pass our calculations;
    Cause we won’t back down!

    What is it you will do for us?
    What will you pursue for us?
    Will you break through for us?
    Cause we won’t back down!

    We will stand tall for Life;
    We will stand strong for Liberty;
    We will pursue our Happiness;
    And we won’t back down!

    Linda

  70. http://www.politico.com/livepulse/1009/Finance_Committee_bill_has_been_filed_.html

    1502 pages…..perhaps there’s an inverse relationship between Obama’s efficiency index and the national debt.

  71. BTW, efficiency index usually correlates well with executive functioning.

  72. JustMe.

    I did not listen to AJ today, I missed it. I’ll catch it later though.

  73. http://blogs.reuters.com/summits/2009/10/19/washington-divided-more-trouble-ahead-for-obama/

    “Washington Divided”. Republicans can play this to their advantage. It looks like they already are.

  74. The South,

    He reports on a new conversation he had with his former oil company CEO insider. Of course, it’s hard to get Lindsey to spill the beans as fast as you want him to…probably holding out in order to sell his DVD…I can’t blame him. If you can wade through the cliffhangers, it’s well worth the listen.

    Also, He’ll be back on Alex tomorrow from 11:30 to 1:00.

  75. The South,

    FYI, Lindsey was on the latter part of the 2nd podcast and the entire segment of the 3rd podcast…save you a little time.

  76. Heh, Venice: This one’s for you….I found your video on the bo speech in San Fran recently.
    Sit back and have your barf bag handy…

    It’s at http://www.sfgate.com (raw video on the left side of page) —this is the San Francisco Chronicle’s web site. Enjoy (yuck)!

  77. Foxtrot—Is this a “friendly” comment or a
    threat? No one I know uses their real names.

  78. TheSouth,

    correction – that’s the latter part of 3rd podcast and all of the 4th.

    sorry

  79. CW, d21, and LindaNY— I appreciate all your kind words. If it helps in any way, I am glad to do it. We are all in this together, and united we must stay to affect the kind of “change” to restoring the Republic and our US Constitution.
    No one is above the law, and soon Mr. Obama
    will have to face that realization.

  80. How much longer are we going to wait? Anger is building among many. We tried the peaceful way, we went unheard. Time to Storm the Supreme Court, and demand they uphold the Constitution. Put out an Amber Alert for Barry Soetoro….

  81. Army—
    Are you referring to the affadavit?

  82. maddie,

    Thanks so much, but I’m having difficulty finding the video.

  83. Margie –
    Problem is, we’re all waiting for that first person to step forward, which is going to take a degree of unparalled courage. I think we’d all love the military to look at the obvious and to do something about it, but I’m truly beginning to lose hope.

  84. Naddie……………………………
    Should you be fortunate enough to talk with Susan Daniels, it is first imperative to thoroughly explain to her our goals,how and what we are trying to accomplish. Our goals are in bringing truth, and constitutional government back to the American people. We need to be sure that all parties share the same overall goals. She needs to understand that anything which we would learn will also be made available to her, and directly to Orly,who should have everything as well.
    As I stated last night it is extremely important to explore every possibility regarding the alleged original person’s name who held the Obama SS numger. According to Susan’s original information there was an indication that the SS number might have been issued to a person who was born in 1890. If this is true then that person would have been eligible to receive SS benefits in 1955. So we need to have a name. and if he was paid any SS benefits in 1955, and /or thereafter. To extrapolate further, this becomes necessary to determine, and is important for the purpose of clearly showing if the number WAS held in the past ,and that the only way Obama could have received it would have been through illegal,and/or criminal action.

  85. Maddie, please don’t get all paranoid on me! No, it was not a threat! You need only read Rosettasister recently to see that alot of the folks who have carried this sword to find the truth are all of a sudden backing down and stating they now believe he is a U.S. citizen. Rosettasister just announced today she will not be doing her blog anymore. The facts are simply adding up to something scary!

  86. Maddie, why would you ever think that Foxtrot was my real name? You use the name “Maddie” in your posting so that is what I responded to.

  87. http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/

    Lamecherry supports the idea that the Afghan election was modified Brzezinski style, hence the dithering on sending military troops.

  88. Linda from NY
    “34 percent of Californians approve of Pelosi’s performance”
    can you imagine what it would be if everybody knew what was going on? 3 per cent would be more like it.
    I got a call from Rasmussen today-computer generated. I don’t need to tell you my answers.

  89. Venice—the video is on the left of the screen –a short ad for “spinal stenosis” I believe it was called starts first—however, the Obama “pts. of light” SF speech comes on right after the “aching back” ad (actually I thought the connection was good—listen to bo and you’ll get an aching back)
    Let me know if you have anymore probs. I played it, and bobo came on with his speech:(

  90. maddie // October 19, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Army—
    Are you referring to the affadavit?

    *********************

    No, I just wanted to know if Soetoro was using the SSN’s or someone else.

    If he was using the SSN , then where is the proof..

  91. A lot has went on since I left to do some work and cook supper for my family. Maddie you did an amazing job with that P.I….Linda your poems never cease to make me smile and feel happy,Thanks—-Glen Beck said something about the government starting to control the internet on Thursday. Did anybody else hear that today? Also I have worked with an organization since 1995 that brings Jews from all over the world back to Israel, they go into all areas of the country and help them with their paper work, and passage, they get them on the buses and in the vans to the airports. Depending on what country they are in, some don’t have to fly it’s called making alliah, St. Josephs Storehouse in Savannah sends many staples for them when they arrive because they can only carry a few items when they exodus. I had a thought a little while ago, Rahm Emmanuel is probably of the jewish sect that crucified Jesus. I wouldn’t be surprised.

  92. Maddie…………………….

    I was stopped cold in my POE search effortsby a particularly hairy case of shingles. In the interim I talked with another commenter on CW blog who was then interested in the same research. I have not heard any news from that person regarding the POE records. I still remain positive that those records are out there, but will probably require a trained researcher to locate. Some one with genealogical research background would probably be a good bet.

  93. Andrea Shea King
    http://radiopatriot.blogspot.com/2009/10/more-white-house-sleight-of-hand.html
    Monday, October 19, 2009
    MORE WHITE HOUSE SLEIGHT OF HAND
    The White House says President Barack Obama will not send more U.S.troops until a credible government is in place.
    From a military friend who sent this by email last night with the note:
    Those SOBs! Commander wants troops; troops denied. Somalia all over again.
    It would be irresponsible to send more troops to Afghanistan until a legitimate and credible government is in place, the White House and top Democrats said Sunday.
    White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel said the most critical issue facing U.S. strategy is whether the Afghans can be an effective partner in destroying Al Qaeda safe havens and bringing stability to the region.
    “It would be reckless to make a decision on U.S. troop levels if in fact you haven’t done a thorough analysis of whether in fact there’s an Afghan partner ready to fill that space that U.S. troops would create and become a true partner in governing,” Emanuel said in an interview Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
    Emanuel stressed that the central question is “not how much troops you have but whether in fact there’s an Afghan partner.”
    Meanwhile, Karl Rove just revealed that James Carville was in Afghanistan prior to the Afghani election advising Karzai’s…. opponent. Deliberate attempt to destabilize Afghanistan’s government? (h/t Kristinn Taylor, Free Republic for transcription. The following statement comes in at 5:42 in the video)
    “Take a look at what this administration has done. They have destabilized the Afghan government by saying you know what we’re not certain that Karzai is a good partner for us.
    And the Obama administration sent in James Carville, Democrat party operative, in order to handle the campaign of Karzai’s opponent. And then they express surprise when Karzai is trying to cut side deals with the remaining warlords and regional powers in Afghanistan in order to make certain he has a power base if the Americans pull the rug out from underneath him.
    I mean its really unusual that this administration is so quick to criticize the Bush administration when they are really destabilizing the regime in Afghanistan in a fundamental way.”

  94. LDacar // October 19, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    IMO, the Occidental records are nearly as important as the BC. If we can get those records unsealed, I am sure they will show BO as a foreign student, being a citizen of Indonesia. They will also show his place of birth.

    I agree that they would offer some great discovery, but Kreep requested them. Occidental agreed that it was a legitimate request and proceeded immediately to their lawyers which happened to be Obama’s. O’s lawyers (after threatening with the biggest court allowed sanctions if Kreep should lose case) motioned to quash subpoena and court ruled in favor of O’s attorneys. The college admitted that it was a legitimate subpoena and would have to comply unless a court order said otherwise – which it did. So, another record under lock and key. Nowadays I guess once you become President you also become king and can not longer fall under the same laws as the rest of the citizens.

    Where are all the gum shoe private investigators with ins in HI?

  95. venice,

    Over 100 people have filed complaints of election fraud against various members of the D party, with their A’sG. More than 40 (forty) people have filed in TX alone; more than 20 (twenty) have filed in SC. Eighteen complaints have been filed in VA, d2i’s state. Eight have filed complaints in GA; 3 (three) have filed in HI.

    All of these complaints bear the real name and address of these filers; after all, their standing to complain to the state AG is found in their being residents of that state.

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com

  96. OldSalt77—

    I was lucky enough to speak to her—I left my #, and she called me back. I was fortunate. It’s difficult to know whom to trust. She’s a great lady.
    Now, I sent postings to you earlier on this
    thread. They are at 4:42, 5:21, and 5:26—
    mostly at 4:42. Maddie.

  97. Just in case some of you were wondering what I was . . . “are social security numbers reissued after a certain period after someone’s death, to a new person?” The answer is “NO”. So whoever had this social security number issued to them originally would be the only person who should have it. Here is a link to verify.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070721135906AA1VGMY

  98. Army—I went back several threads because I remembered that you posted info on the Selective Service site and SSNs. Hope you don’t mind if I bring it here.

    ARMY D.A.V // October 17, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    If the SSN# are complete you can run them though the Selective Service site.

    1980-81 needs Name, SSN#

    Non -citizens also had to sign up but under a different process.

    Soetoro SSN#
    Obama SSN#

    No match means he didn’t sign up for the draft…..If he didn’t sign up for the draft
    then he’s not eligible for any federal position

  99. Sorry maddie,

    I may be looking at a new page, as this link updates automatically. I did click however on the link you provided. There is no title to a story or video referring to BO however.

  100. Could someone put in a cease and desist order to the SS Administration and give the number being used by Obama without his name, stating that this number is registered to two individiuals – one being deceased??

  101. Linda from NY

    venice: Thanks for the Lame Cherry link. Spot on, he is! PP must be so proud of himself!

  102. Thanks jbjd,

    Congratulations. I guess now it will depend on what the court does with the filings. Are you very hopeful? Forgive me if I’m putting you on the spot.

  103. carmen http://www.visionforisrael.com/
    I couldn’t find it under St. Joseph’s. It is The Joseph Storehouse.

  104. JustMe,

    Got it!

    Thanks!!

  105. Foxtrot—No, I did not think your real name was Foxtrot, maybe “Foxy” though??:)
    I hoped you were just giving a friendly warning, but after what I’ve learned recently, we are not dealing with your average “joes”. If you’ve got “my back” I’ve got “yours”—deal?
    Best, Maddie.

  106. Observer said,

    Occidental agreed that it was a legitimate request and proceeded immediately to their lawyers which happened to be Obama’s. O’s lawyers (after threatening with the biggest court allowed sanctions if Kreep should lose case) motioned to quash subpoena and court ruled in favor of O’s attorneys. The college admitted that it was a legitimate subpoena and would have to comply unless a court order said otherwise – which it did. So, another record under lock and key. Nowadays I guess once you become President you also become king and can not longer fall under the same laws as the rest of the citizens.

    This is untrue. Anyone can issue a subpoena. So, Kreep serves a private college with a subpoena for BO’s records. Why should Occidental pay attorneys to fight this subpoena? Naturally, they go to BO. ‘Hey, we got hit with this subpoena; take care of this, will ya?’ Of course, BO says, sure, and tells the court, now Kreep is going after my personal records at Occidental. (No Discovery had been granted by the court; no Discovery schedule had been agreed to by the parties to that dispute.)

    Nothing nefarious, or collusive, or subversive. Sure, maybe it was Occidental’s lawyers who forwarded this Kreep generated subpoena for records, to BO’s attorneys. And it’s a good thing they did. Because when a party is represented by counsel in a case, other counsel must communicate with that party through his counsel.

    I have pointed out before, Occidental College is private; they have the right to protect the privacy of their students. It would be extremely unwise from a business perspective if they did not guarantee their students that all records are kept confidential.

  107. Maddie you are right I must have been thinking of aspirin. Sorry

  108. GPig/Rabbit salad humor warning:

    http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=8271

  109. Put your food down SueK (actually no one should be eating for this one):

    http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=8244

  110. venice,

    These complaints for election fraud have absolutely nothing to do with the courts! Why don’t you read the blog yourself.

    Why is this such a foreign concept? Citizens who enacted laws in their states requiring any candidate appearing on their state ballots to be eligible for the job, are complaining to their elected A’sG, the chief law enforcement officials in the state, that the D party perpetrated election fraud in the state by Certifying BO was eligible for POTUS to get his name printed on the state ballot but hadn’t ascertained whether he was eligible for the job. Let the AG ask the party, how did you know BO was a NBC?

    The AG could press criminal charges against these members of the D party – especially in SC – and take them to court. But this is their job, not ours. No; our job is to make sure our Congress people learn about these complaints, which implicate APFC in the fraud; because Congress ratified the EC vote for BO based in some cases only on the say so of APFC that, BO was eligible for the job. So, once APFC is exposed as incredible, Articles of Impeachment cannot be far behind.

    All of this is laid out in my blog: “THE END GAME”; “THE CHEESE STANDS ALONE”; etc.

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com

  111. Michelle,
    So, if bo puts inc. of troups “on hold” ’til after Karzai’s election mess is cleared up (how long can that take–forever) than bo is siding with
    the Taliban (wouldn’t be surprising)!

  112. Video: Rep. Rohrabacher: Obama’s “World Vision Comes From A Marxist Background”

    rohra-1

    rohra-2

    rohra-3

  113. DAV……………………………………
    I want to thank you for your help night before last. Hopefully the SLIMEY bastard is now in the Canadian slammer. I hope that Orly filed a formal complaint to the Canadian FCC. I owe you one bud.

  114. jbjd,

    Thank you. Yes I understand that the AG’s are the ones to pursue this. This was what I was referring to. Let’s hope.

  115. maddie,

    Thank you, that link works too well. It is torture listening to that man. I had to fast forward and unfortunately while I heard ad nauseam about his enthusiasm, I didn’t catch him say he’d quit, the only part I wanted to hear. Thank you for your effort, I have a large rock in the pit of my stomach and it’s now dinner time.

  116. Maddie—deal! I have been on this subject for over two years now. I pray every day that someone finally can produce something tangible to prove Obama is not a NBC, as we all know he is not. I am a lifelong Democrat, but I am an American first. We have to protect our Consitution at all costs. What I don’t get is why doesn’t the media ask themselves only one question, “why isn’t Obama providing the long form of his birth certificate or allowing anyone to see his college records?” If they were objective they would subscribe to the theory of “me thinks thou dost protest too much” with Obama doing everything in his power to keep them all sealed. I guess our media outlets aren’t that bright after all!

  117. Is there a statute of limitations with the colleges refusing to provide his records? I hope so. Because if by some chance we cannot get a hold of the tangible proof anytime in the near future, at least we have a shot of exposing him later on in life for the fraud he is.

  118. Updated: The Awakening Tomorrow Night…10/18/2009
    Posted on October 19th, 2009 by David-Crockett

    Maybe why the silenced from Leo!!

    Then, MissTICKLY may have found evidence tending to indicate that (please take a deep breath) Barack Obama is the son of cousins, Stanley Ann Dunham and Frank Marshall Davis — and Hawaiian royalty — perhaps heir to the Hawaiian throne. If true, this would imply criminal fraud by Obama

  119. Sorry, posted on Oil For Immigration.

  120. DAV……………………………………
    I have something I would like to email to you. If you will contact CW i will ask him to make my email available to you. Or if yoe want wew can do it using your email……. take your pick. Get back to me soon. I have something I want you to validate for me.

  121. CW Will you make my email address available to ARMY DAV. ‘preciate it

  122. Foxtrot–
    Thanks, we have lots in common. I want the
    Constitution restored and the media back
    in full force. Thanks and keep up the good
    fight. Betsy Ross/Aka Maddie

  123. DAV……….
    Send me a few words, and I will send my info via REPLY

  124. Salt

    There is no such thing as being anonymous on the Internet………..

  125. Linda from NY

    twe: Thanks for the comic relief. Some of us have been feeling a bit discouraged today! It helps!

  126. Linda from NY

    Records Request Filed in N.J. School District in Connection to ‘Obama Song’

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/19/records-request-filed-connection-obama-song/?test=latestnews

  127. From Charles Kerchner:

    Monday, October 19, 2009
    Current Issues with MommaE – Patriot Heart Network – BlogTalkRadio – 9:30 PM EDT, Monday, 19 Oct 2009
    Attorney Mario Apuzzo and Charles Kerchner, Lead Plaintiff, of the Kerchner et al vs. Obama and Congress et al lawsuit will be appearing on the radio show, Current Issues with MommaE – Patriot Heart Network – BlogTalkRadio – 9:30 PM EDT, Monday, 19 Oct 2009

    Show link:
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/show.aspx?userurl=PatriotsHeartNetwork&year=2009&month=10&day=20&url=Current-Issues-with-MommaE

    Lawsuit Overview:

  128. Venice,
    I warned you that you’d may “puke” just
    listening to it.
    I can only wonder how former Pres. Bush I
    sat there listening. Too bad we couldn’t read his mind.
    Maybe later you can jump around on it and catch the phrase. I did try to search for the actual text, but couldn’t find it, just his more
    “important” speeches. But, I know the text is out there if you don’t want to “hear” it again.
    If I happen to find it, I’ll post.
    In the meantime, enjoy din-din and don’t think about “it.”

  129. Salt

    Aye , Salt

  130. OldSalt77—

    Did you see my postings above?
    M.

  131. African-American deaths since 1973 (check out the column on abortions):

  132. Welcome back, Foxtrot! Longtime no see. Everything old is new again.

    Many blogs have exited stage right,(texasdarlin), and some are back (obamafile, thank goodness), Leo comes and goes ( hopefully he will land a client and get some court action), and rosettasister looks to be in the final act, (but it was never the same for me after you left and we lost JAC.) I do not think it is anything sinister, people just burn out.

    Me, I am back to the markets. Debt, derivatives, and currency collapse, Oh my!

    Give the fine people of Citizen Wells an education. You are a wealth of knowledge.

  133. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Do you know this guy?

    Every man, woman, child, cat, and dog needs to stop Alexi Giannoulias from being the next Senator from Illinois

    http://hillbuzz.org/2009/10/19/every-man-woman-child-cat-and-dog-need-to-stop-alexi-giannoulias-from-being-the-next-senator-from-illinois/

  134. Oh oh oh.
    Look look look.
    Leo must have a Quo Warranto on!?

  135. Maddie
    Are you referring to the IMPORTANT SPEECHES comment?

  136. Linda from NY

    N.C. Democrat praises Burr — while DSCC struggles to recruit his challenger

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/63723-nc-democrat-praises-burr-while-dscc-struggles-to-defeat-him

  137. Linda from NY-I will have to research him, Tony Angelis (Angelos) Greek was up for ambassador to Greece. At the time Front page news Chicago Tribune. I’m pretty sure I’m remembering his name correctly. He lost out due to MOB connections. A little background info-out in the suburbs a lot of new restaurants were built. This is how we made lunch reservations. Will you be open today? No, we did not get firebombed today. The Greek Mob and the Italian Mob got into some weird “war” so in the space of about 6 months, they flamed at least 11 restaurants that we know of in the area. They only did it at night to send a message-no people were hurt except from higher rates from insurance companies. They are so weird.

  138. Citizen Wells was on it 8/27/08.
    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/obama-corruption-alexi-giannoulias-speaks-at-convention-chicago-corruption-obama-mentor-to-giannoulias-giannoulias-mob-ties-dan-shomon-audacity-of-corruption/
    Obama corruption, Alexi Giannoulias speaks at Convention, Chicago corruption, Obama mentor to Giannoulias, Giannoulias mob ties, Dan Shomon, Audacity of corruption
    August 27, 2008 · 6 Comments
    “Giannoulias is so tainted by reputed mob links that several top Illinois Dems, including the state’s speaker of the House and party chairman, refused to endorse him even after he won the Democratic nomination with Obama’s help.”
    Lynn Sweet, Chicago Sun-Times

  139. Thanks JC! I will do my best.

  140. Change! ObamaCare will put Planned Parenthood clinics inside your child’s school

    Isn’t this ironic??? To dispense Tylenol, a signed waiver from parents is needed…..but condoms, birth control, venereal disease treatment, abortions, sure kids, come on in!!

  141. for OldSalt77—here is the post with the
    info from the PI.

    OldSalt77, JS, Jonah et. al.

    I just had a very nice conversation with
    Ms. Daniels re our discussion last night.
    I was warmly received, and she answered
    questions about the affivadit that she was at liberty to answer.

    Here is what I learned:
    1. She does not have a name for the 1890
    SSN. 2. I asked for confirmation of the
    SSN 042-68-4425 — she is not at liberty
    to discuss that. 3. There does not appear to
    be anyway bho was in Connecticut to get
    the SSN during the years 1977-79. 4. I asked about Thomas Wood–not at liberty to say,
    5. SSN may be bogus, 6. may be more than
    1 (one) SSN. 7. If SS payments were made
    in 1995 & henceworth with the # assigned originally to the 1890 d.o.b. person—she
    has no way of knowing that.

    OldSalt77—hope this helps in fitting the
    puzzle together.

    Again, I thanked Ms. Daniels for her hard work and told her there were people “out there” who are glad she is helping to fight the “good fight.”
    She is a very helpful and thorough investigator
    who is very supportive of Dr. Orly Taitz.
    We had a nice, long chat:)

  142. Does anyone think the WH may have used the attack on Fox News as a smoke screen? Sean and Glen were hammering away at Kevin Jennings, now they are all so caught up in the attack—

  143. maddie,

    I will thank you also for your contact with Ms. Daniels. This is the kind of networking that is making the difference.

  144. how do you listen to blogtalk radio – Mario Appuzo
    MommE/ patriots network – ?

  145. carmen,

    While it is true that Republicans and Dems are operating from the same page, there is nonetheless rivalry between them, just as there is among Dems in Congress. Repubs want dominance in 2012, and they will do whatever they can to obtain it. They will then place their signature stamp on the primary blueprint.

  146. More Chicago corruption City Hall, not to be confused with regular Obama South Side, cesspool of Corruption Cook County.
    October 19, 2009
    Why we fought the Olympics so hard, Part 312: Chicago is broke and has to furlough thousands of people
    Posted by hillbuzz under Uncategorized | Tags: Chicago financial problems, Chicago to lay off thousands, City of Chicago furloughs people |
    [4] Comments
    For those of you out there across the country who didn’t understand why we fought tooth and nail against the Chicago 2016 Olympics, today imperial Mayor Daley announced he will be furloughing thousands of City of Chicago workers.
    Anyone who is non-union will be taking five weeks of unpaid vacation in 2010.
    The unions control Chicago, keeping many of their own on City payroll as chair-warmers: big, beefy butts in charge of keeping those lightweight chairs in so many City offices from drifting off into the ether and floating away. That’s their job, with many of them making $60,000, $70,000, $80,000 you name it to do just that.
    And union workers can’t be fired. Can’t be forced to take pay reductions. Can’t be made to do actual work.
    Welcome to Chicago!
    In terms of who’s going to be forced to take all that unpaid leave, who wants to bet it’s going to be people on Daley’s personal hit list…and not one of them will be people who pay their dues to Daley’s ward bosses and fall neatly into line whenever Da Mayor barks.
    The reason the Olympics was such a potential nightmare for us is because Daley’s constrained currently by the fact the City has no money. With nothing in our treasury, Daley has little to dole out in patronage, perks, and financial windfalls to his cronies. Sure, he can keep his loyalists on the payroll, warming those cushions, keeping the chairs from floating away, but even that has its limits.
    With all those Olympics billions Daley would have had access to, the sky would have been the limit for patronage. In fact, his whole political operation would have shifted from City Hall to the Olympics office…THAT’S where all of the Mayor’s cronies would have made their REAL MONEY.
    Just imagine all the creative “jobs” that could have been created for these people with the Olympics. ”Consulting” is a wonderful, wonderful racquet for those who know how to work it. Are you the son or daughter of someone the Mayor wants to give a large sum of money too. Well, you could have been a “creative consultant” to the Chicago 2016 Olympics, making, oh, say $90,000 a year for sharpening crayons.
    With the Olympics, there would have been absolutely no oversight whatsoever. It would have been a free-for-all.
    And the City could not have afforded any of this…and in our opinion would not have survived it

  147. Linda from NY

    Michelle: I knew you would deliver the goods! Thanks for all the valuable information. It is nice to know Burris will not be running, but there is no guarantee pp’s basketball buddy will not pull some election fraud to get himself a Senate seat.

  148. Thanks, Venice, I’m glad it helps. We all need to stay united in this. I believe We the People will succeed. Best, Maddie.

  149. http://hillbuzz.org/
    October 19, 2009
    The lucrative Race Industry in America
    Posted by hillbuzz under Uncategorized | Tags: Al Sharpton, Eric Holder, Henry Gates, James Clyburne, Jesse Jackson, John Lewis, RAAACISM!, race-baiting, Spike Lee, The Race Industry |
    [5] Comments
    Here’s an interesting read over at RealClearPolitics about the lucrative Race Industry in America.
    One of the most interesting dinners we had last year after the election was on the Southside of Chicago, in the home of a very prominent member of the black community here — someone, like Hillary Clinton herself, who we would literally go to the gates of Hell and back for. We love this person, but were always very careful about criticizing Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Henry Gates, or the other national race hucksters around her because, simply, she’s black and all of us are white guys. We had no idea where she stood on Jackson, and never wanted to get into any racial issues with her.
    Well, imagine our surprise when at that table she and the dozen or so others, mainly black, around her all let into not only Jackson and Sharpton but Dr. Utopia, too.
    The general consensus was that Dr. Utopia had spoiled it for everyone, but it would take Americans a while to realize it.
    They were, of course, talking about the Race Industry — something black people have profited from in one way or another for a long time, and not just the Jacksons and Sharptons and their ilk. ”White guilt” has been a powerful tool for black community development for a very long time — an effective and easy to use tool, for those in the know who knew how to push all the right buttons and handle things the most manipulative way.
    Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson were just the most blatant in what they do. They literally go to corporate America and extort millions of dollars for their fictitious charities…where charity most certainly starts and finishes in the opulence of their own homes. As the article above notes, Sharpton and Jackson team up, head over to a company they seemingly pick from the phone book, accuse them of having too few black people working there, and then demand a payoff for “consulting fees in the area of diversity training” to halt any plans this dynamic duo have for picketing and protesting the company and generally shutting down business operations as usual.
    Those of us in Chicago recognize these tactics because it’s more or less the sort of thing another Al, with the surname Capone, used to do…and it was lucrative for him, too. Capone would visit legitimate businesses and tell them they weren’t safe enough…that they were in danger of burning to the ground…that their employees were very likely to be riddled with bullets…and that there weren’t enough of Capone’s protectees working there. The business either paid the “consulting fees” to Capone and did as he said, or it was burned to the ground.
    The more things change, the more they stay the same. Sharpton and Jackson aren’t arsonists, but they do their level best to bring down reputations in flames, whenever someone doesn’t pay up.
    A tier below Sharpton and Jackson are the Henry Gates and Spike Lee race-baiters, who make their fortunes by encouraging racial grievances in the form of “scholarship” or “art”. Gates is a well-paid Harvard professor who race-baits to pay the bills; Harvard indulges him, lets him teach whole courses on grievance, and gives him a platform to wail and scream from. Lee makes millions of dollars from his victimhood movies, and generates constant attention for himself by accusing everyone under the sun of being racist. RAAACIST!
    For all of these men, shouting RAAACIST! as loud as they can has been the equivalent of parrots squawking for crackers. The louder they squawk, the more they are fed. The more innocent people they accuse of being RAAACISTS!, the more media attention they get. For Gates, that attention means more speaking engagements and book deals. For Lee, that means bigger box office for his latest tripe. For Sharpton and Jackson, that attention means more fear to strike into the hearts of corporate America…since these two clowns are only powerful so long as Ivy League idiots in their Brooks Brothers finest actually live in terror of their exploits.
    Now, most of you out there can see this part of the Race Industry, and it’s what the article talks about. But what you don’t see are the good people in the black community who use white guilt and liberal fools to do real good in poor, urban areas…good they could never do if wealthy people weren’t so easy to manipulate with racial narratives.
    There are an awful lot of liberals who live in gated communities who like telling people how often they watch Oprah, how happy they are Halle Berry and Denzel Washington and Cuba Gooding Jr. and Whoopi Goldberg won Oscars, how gleeful they were to vote for Dr. Utopia, and how much they think Mrs. Utopia is the world’s greatest fashion icon. These people would never be caught dead south of the Loop, unless they are attending an art gallery opening in Hyde Park or taking a class at University of Chicago. But, they also love telling all their friends how they donated this or that sum to “those poor black people on the Southside”.
    Instead of hitting these people on the head with Capone-style racial cudgels, there are smarter Race Industry experts who manipulate gullible liberals to hand over large sums to community projects that actually need that money.
    And you know what, more power to these people. While we despise Sharpton, Jackson, Gates, and Lee, we love the people who work so hard for so little personally, devoting their lives to milking white guilt for all its worth…to actually improve black communities.
    These people are playing the hands they are dealt expertly, and we have to admire that.
    But, Dr. Utopia has been a critical blow to the Race Industry…a hole in the ship that’s going to sink it in time. No one knows how long that will take, but those on the ground know it’s coming.
    There were many people in the black community who did not want Dr. Utopia to win…because the black community at large invested everything they had in this one man, who was the wrong man to put all their trust in. Dr. Utopia will not do a damn thing for the black community. But, by racializing the 2008 campaign to the extent Dr. Utopia and his followers did…and by insisting anyone who didn’t vote for him was RAAACIST! and anyone who criticizes anything he does is RAAACIST! and anyone who thinks of opposing him or his socialist agenda is RAAACIST!, these people have evaporated 99% of white guilt.
    Only the most left of the Leftists still feel any white guilt, now that we have “the historic first black president”.
    All those old lines about “the man” keeping black people down and not helping black people get anywhere ring hollow with “the historic first black president” in the White House.
    What are the excuses now?
    It’s harder to use any of the old tricks on those wealthy liberals, too, because they assume the “historic first black president” is actually doing things for the black community. Because, the logic dictates, if he’s not, then who on Earth would? If these liberals worked so hard to put Dr. Utopia in office and create the “historic first black president”, these liberals think that “historic first black president” should actually be doing something…anything…for the black community.
    And if he’s got that job covered, then these liberals are now free to do other things.
    Their great burden has been lifted…conveniently at a time when their stocks are down and incomes have dropped considerably.
    The black community is now largely on its own…inconveniently at a time when its longtime supporters believe the government should now take their place as patron at large for urban community projects.
    We’re in unprecedented territory with all of this, but within a few years, watch Sharpton, Jackson, Gates, Lee, and their ilk be out of business. It’s not going to happen overnight, but people are going to start loudly asking why all this hucksterism is still going on when there’s a black president…one who wins Nobel Prizes and all sorts of elite awards…so what more does the black community want?
    They have a Nobel Prize winning black president who said he was going to solve everyone’s problems.
    So, what is he doing?
    Corporations will ultimately grow spines and fight back against Sharpton and Jackson, in particular, because all the cries of RAAACISM! have cheapened and diluted the accusation itself. If everyone in this country is RAAACIST, then nobody is.
    Anyone who supported Hillary Clinton or McCain/Palin against Dr. Utopia last year was called a RAAACIST. That, combined, is more than half the country, counting the primaries and general election. If not drinking the Kool-Aid and accepting Dr. Utopia as our new personal savior makes people RAAACISTS, then why would anyone fear being called a RAAACIST again?
    When we were younger, being called a FAG! was a big deal.
    It was a scary, scary thing to be called that on the playground, with all attention suddenly thrust on us. We’d spend the next few weeks watching every hand gesture, noting the tone of our voices, editing our speech to ensure we weren’t doing, saying, or even thinking anything, ANYTHING, that could warrant another blast of FAG! in our general direction. It was exhausting, terrifying, and life-altering.
    But, somewhere along the way FAG! was overused so much it became meaningless. True, moving from Ohio or Pennsylvania into the big city of Chicago has a lot to do with that, since there are many, many more gay men here than there were back home, so there’s safety in numbers. You shout FAG! in Boystown and dozens of guys will turn around thinking you’re talking to them. Not that you should ever do that, but you get the point. Even people who aren’t gay will turn around and look at you, if only to see how stupid you are for shouting something like that.
    It’s a onetime crippling pejorative that’s been turned into a joke.
    RAAACIST! is the same thing, a joke. After its overuse in 2008, and its continued abundance in all things Sharpton-Jackson-Gates-Lee-Holder-Clyburne-Lewis-etc., calling anyone a RAACIST! has absolutely no meaning at all.
    Just like us with the word FAG!, it’s going to take most people a while, maybe a few years, to stand up and laugh back in the faces of those doing the shouting. There’s still that knee jerk reaction to cower and run for cover whenever RAACISM! is tossed around, but with this happening so often, every time Sharpton and Jackson get at it takes more of the punch out of the word.
    It will be only a matter of time before the whole Race Industry collapses, no matter how many bailouts the White House and the current president try to give it.

  150. maddie // October 19, 2009 at 8:57 pm
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    maddie,
    Thanks for making the phonecall to Ms. Daniels. You did a good job.

    Jonah

  151. Maddie…………………………….
    The evidence of SS benefits being paid would be the existence of the number on active rolls either in 1955 or afterward Simple. The individual would already be 65 years of age and therefore probably would be receiving benefits. So the rolls would reflect the Obama as being active in 1955. It only requires a system search back to 1955 or a year afterward, and look for the presence of the number on the active rolls at that time. If SSA refuses to do this then there is a probability that the number was stolen and the evidence on the dead list could have been scrubbed. The number would also preexist the 1977-1979 time frame as well. So it would seem that there ARE a couple of approaches to check out the SS number.

  152. Linda from NY -One thing that you can expect from Obama and minions is corruption, I don’t think they know any other way and by now they owe everybody. Assume all on, about or near them is DIRTY. They all need an ACORN type investigation. There is going to be a week long giant protest in Chicago next week I know my fellow Chicagoans this could get WILD.
    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/10/mad-at-banksters-in-or-near-chicago-oct-25-27-you-can-do-something-about-it.html
    Thursday, October 15, 2009
    Mad at Banksters? In or Near Chicago Oct. 25-27? You Can Do Something About It!

    Dean Baker, a couple of days ago at Huffington Post, called on readers to go to Chicago to participate in peaceful protests during the annual meetings of the American Bankers Association on October 25 to 27. A coalition of community, labor, and consumer groups are organizing this “Showdown in Chicago.”
    If you saw Michael Moore’s Capitalism: A Love Story, a disconcerting bit was his discussion of a series of research reports put out by Citigroup for some of its asset management client in 2005 on “Plutonomy”. It argued that a world ordered to suit the whims of the top 1% was well underway. The only thing that might get in the way was that the other 99% had the force of numbers on its side.
    Sometimes it takes a show of numbers to change the dynamic. As Baker pointed out:
    The elites hate to acknowledge it, but when large numbers of ordinary people are moved to action, it changes the narrow political world where the elites call the shots. Inside accounts reveal the extent to which Johnson and Nixon’s conduct of the Vietnam War was constrained by the huge anti-war movement. It was the civil rights movement, not compelling arguments, that convinced members of Congress to end legal racial discrimination. More recently, the townhall meetings, dominated by people opposed to health care reform, have been a serious roadblock for those pushing reform….
    A big turnout at this event can make a real difference. Just to review the scorecard, most of the country is still suffering the fallout from the bankers’ irrational exuberance of the housing bubble era. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and other forecasters expect the suffering to endure for years to come.
    As we noted yesterday, ordinary people who still have jobs are often seeing their wages cut, while Wall Street, the beneficiary of rich subsidies, is expecting a banner year.
    If you live in or near Chicago, see if you can organize others to join you. And dress nicely! One favorite strategy is to dismiss protestors as ruffians.

  153. OldSalt—I’ll see what can be done.
    I know there used to be a Federal Repository at a university not too far away from here. I’ll contact the reference librarians this week and see what direction to go. Or, do you recommend online routes, if so what do you suggest?

  154. Maddie………………….

    I think that I would see if SusanDaniels is willing to carry the search any further. Some people are adamant until all of their ammo is expended and then they are sometimes not willing to pursue a search any further. I have found at various points in my life that sometimes we are forced to use innovative ways to achieve an end,or learn something specific.

  155. OldSalt77–I believe she could not answer some of the questions perhaps because the investigation is private and/or on-going.

  156. I just got an idea:

    How about we raise funds and invite George Obama from Nirobi to come to a Hawaii Vacation and visit where his brother lived and while there have him go and get BO’s records?

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